Re: removing of sddm (debian 9 -kde5) to start in console mode then startx to start kde5

Felix Miata composed on 2017-10-17 17:40 (UTC-0400): > Brian composed on 2017-10-17 20:54 (UTC+0100): >> On Tue 17 Oct 2017 at 15:30:36 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: >>> Startx continues to work more or less as always in Mageia, just as in >>> Debian, >>> though not necessarily perfectly: >>>

Re: removing of sddm (debian 9 -kde5) to start in console mode then startx to start kde5

David Wright composed on 2017-10-21 11:34 (UTC-0500): > On Fri 20 Oct 2017 at 04:42:53 (-0400), Felix Miata wrote: >> It's not resolutions per se, but resolution increases have considerable >> tendency >> to carry higher pixel density, notwithstanding the considerable average >> density >>

Re: removing of sddm (debian 9 -kde5) to start in console mode then startx to start kde5

On Fri 20 Oct 2017 at 04:42:53 (-0400), Felix Miata wrote: > David Wright composed on 2017-10-19 17:00 (UTC-0500): > > > On Wed 18 Oct 2017 at 19:22:53 (-0400), Felix Miata wrote: > > >> Finding a wanted app to run from a classified tree list of 30 or 40 or 50 > >> or > >> more applications is

Re: removing of sddm (debian 9 -kde5) to start in console mode then startx to start kde5

David Wright composed on 2017-10-19 17:00 (UTC-0500): > On Wed 18 Oct 2017 at 19:22:53 (-0400), Felix Miata wrote: >> Finding a wanted app to run from a classified tree list of 30 or 40 or 50 or >> more applications is easier for most people than remembering the name and any >> required startup

Re: removing of sddm (debian 9 -kde5) to start in console mode then startx to start kde5

On Wed 18 Oct 2017 at 19:22:53 (-0400), Felix Miata wrote: > Ionel Mugurel Ciobîcă composed on 2017-10-18 20:47 (UTC+0200): > > > I never understood the need for desktop managers. I use Debian since > > hamm and Linux/Unix since 1995. My take is that desktop managers are > > for people more used

Re: removing of sddm (debian 9 -kde5) to start in console mode then startx to start kde5

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 07:22:53PM -0400, Felix Miata wrote: > Ionel Mugurel Ciobîcă composed on 2017-10-18 20:47 (UTC+0200): > > > I never understood the need for desktop managers. I use Debian since > > hamm and Linux/Unix since 1995. My take is

Re: removing of sddm (debian 9 -kde5) to start in console mode then startx to start kde5

Ionel Mugurel Ciobîcă composed on 2017-10-18 20:47 (UTC+0200): > I never understood the need for desktop managers. I use Debian since > hamm and Linux/Unix since 1995. My take is that desktop managers are > for people more used to microsoft OS'. Why do I need to click on > something when the

Re: removing of sddm (debian 9 -kde5) to start in console mode then startx to start kde5

On 10/17/2017 11:42 AM, Brian wrote: On Tue 17 Oct 2017 at 13:56:37 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 06:42:04PM +0100, Brian wrote: On Tue 17 Oct 2017 at 11:38:40 -0500, David Wright wrote: On Tue 17 Oct 2017 at 19:32:11 (+0500), Alexan:der V. Makartsev wrote: Deprecated

Re: removing of sddm (debian 9 -kde5) to start in console mode then startx to start kde5

> > [ It might be clearer to write "Desktop Environment" (or DE) instead > of "desktop manager" because of the latter's having the same initials > as Display Manager (or DM). ] You are right. > That said, what are the advantages of running a DM in your case, > compared with using startx? One

Re: removing of sddm (debian 9 -kde5) to start in console mode then startx to start kde5

On Wed 18 Oct 2017 at 20:47:08 (+0200), Ionel Mugurel Ciobîcă wrote: > On 18-10-2017, at 22h 17'14", Richard Hector wrote about "Re: removing of > sddm (debian 9 -kde5) to start in console mode then startx to start kde5" > > > > > > Did they simply t

Re: removing of sddm (debian 9 -kde5) to start in console mode then startx to start kde5

On 18-10-2017, at 22h 17'14", Richard Hector wrote about "Re: removing of sddm (debian 9 -kde5) to start in console mode then startx to start kde5" > > > > Did they simply throw every window manager under the bus and say "Nope, > > sorry, you gotta run a

Re: removing of sddm (debian 9 -kde5) to start in console mode then startx to start kde5

On 18/10/17 06:56, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 06:42:04PM +0100, Brian wrote: >> On Tue 17 Oct 2017 at 11:38:40 -0500, David Wright wrote: >>> On Tue 17 Oct 2017 at 19:32:11 (+0500), Alexander V. Makartsev wrote: Deprecated doesn't mean it doesn't exist or work anymore at

Re: removing of sddm (debian 9 -kde5) to start in console mode then startx to start kde5

Brian composed on 2017-10-17 20:54 (UTC+0100): > On Tue 17 Oct 2017 at 15:30:36 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: >> Mageia is among those installed on most of my multiboot PCs. >> Mageia's contributor base is among the more limited among top 20 distros. It >> provides limited deviation from upstream.

Re: removing of sddm (debian 9 -kde5) to start in console mode then startx to start kde5

Thank you very much Alexander for your help,because I had switched to debian 8 again for three months because I didn't know how to boot in console mode debian 9.so I have just installed again debian 9 and with it boots in multi user mode(console) so I am happy :-)my problem is solved... best

Re: removing of sddm (debian 9 -kde5) to start in console mode then startx to start kde5

On Tue 17 Oct 2017 at 15:30:36 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: > Mageia is among those installed on most of my multiboot PCs. > > Mageia's contributor base is among the more limited among top 20 distros. It > provides limited deviation from upstream. Thus, if upstream says something is > deprecated,

Re: removing of sddm (debian 9 -kde5) to start in console mode then startx to start kde5

David Wright composed on 2017-10-17 13:36 (UTC-0500): > On Tue 17 Oct 2017 at 13:56:37 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote: >> On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 06:42:04PM +0100, Brian wrote: >> > On Tue 17 Oct 2017 at 11:38:40 -0500, David Wright wrote: >> > > On Tue 17 Oct 2017 at 19:32:11 (+0500), Alexander

Re: removing of sddm (debian 9 -kde5) to start in console mode then startx to start kde5

Stephane asked for a help and got it. I also given him the best advice based on my experience with "startx" shell script. "$ sudo systemctl start display-manager.service" is most fail-safe command to start desktop environment from console session on any systemd-adopted distro. Here is some

Re: removing of sddm (debian 9 -kde5) to start in console mode then startx to start kde5

On Tue 17 Oct 2017 at 13:56:37 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 06:42:04PM +0100, Brian wrote: > > On Tue 17 Oct 2017 at 11:38:40 -0500, David Wright wrote: > > > On Tue 17 Oct 2017 at 19:32:11 (+0500), Alexan:der V. Makartsev wrote: > > > > Deprecated doesn't mean it doesn't

Re: removing of sddm (debian 9 -kde5) to start in console mode then startx to start kde5

On Tue 17 Oct 2017 at 13:56:37 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 06:42:04PM +0100, Brian wrote: > > On Tue 17 Oct 2017 at 11:38:40 -0500, David Wright wrote: > > > On Tue 17 Oct 2017 at 19:32:11 (+0500), Alexander V. Makartsev wrote: > > > > Deprecated doesn't mean it doesn't

Re: removing of sddm (debian 9 -kde5) to start in console mode then startx to start kde5

On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 06:42:04PM +0100, Brian wrote: > On Tue 17 Oct 2017 at 11:38:40 -0500, David Wright wrote: > > On Tue 17 Oct 2017 at 19:32:11 (+0500), Alexander V. Makartsev wrote: > > > Deprecated doesn't mean it doesn't exist or work anymore at all, it > > > means it isn't supported

Re: removing of sddm (debian 9 -kde5) to start in console mode then startx to start kde5

On Tue 17 Oct 2017 at 11:38:40 -0500, David Wright wrote: > On Tue 17 Oct 2017 at 19:32:11 (+0500), Alexander V. Makartsev wrote: > > Deprecated doesn't mean it doesn't exist or work anymore at all, it > > means it isn't supported anymore and should not be used. > > Look it up, it was deprecated

Re: removing of sddm (debian 9 -kde5) to start in console mode then startx to start kde5

On Tue 17 Oct 2017 at 19:32:11 (+0500), Alexander V. Makartsev wrote: > Deprecated doesn't mean it doesn't exist or work anymore at all, it > means it isn't supported anymore and should not be used. > Look it up, it was deprecated for quite some time. Please get a grip and provide a reference. >

Re: removing of sddm (debian 9 -kde5) to start in console mode then startx to start kde5

On 10/17/2017 07:39 AM, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 07:32:11PM +0500, Alexander V. Makartsev wrote: Deprecated doesn't mean it doesn't exist or work anymore at all, it means it isn't supported anymore and should not be used. Look it up, it [startx] was deprecated for quite some

Re: removing of sddm (debian 9 -kde5) to start in console mode then startx to start kde5

On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 07:32:11PM +0500, Alexander V. Makartsev wrote: > Deprecated doesn't mean it doesn't exist or work anymore at all, it > means it isn't supported anymore and should not be used. > Look it up, it [startx] was deprecated for quite some time. Quoting from

Re: removing of sddm (debian 9 -kde5) to start in console mode then startx to start kde5

Deprecated doesn't mean it doesn't exist or work anymore at all, it means it isn't supported anymore and should not be used. Look it up, it was deprecated for quite some time. On 17.10.2017 19:16, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 07:05:13PM +0500, Alexander V. Makartsev wrote: >> I

Re: removing of sddm (debian 9 -kde5) to start in console mode then startx to start kde5

On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 07:05:13PM +0500, Alexander V. Makartsev wrote: > I think "startx" command is deprecated now and you shouldn't use it > anymore. Nonsense. Many people (including me) use it all the time. Granted, I don't use KDE.

Re: removing of sddm (debian 9 -kde5) to start in console mode then startx to start kde5

OK thank you AlexanderI will try this... bests regards stephane Le Mardi 17 octobre 2017 16h05, Alexander V. Makartsev a écrit : I think "startx" command is deprecated now and you shouldn't use it anymore. Right way to start DE is by starting display manager

Re: removing of sddm (debian 9 -kde5) to start in console mode then startx to start kde5

I think "startx" command is deprecated now and you shouldn't use it anymore. Right way to start DE is by starting display manager service. This command should work in your case:     $ sudo systemctl start sddm.service On 17.10.2017 18:55, Stephane L wrote: > Hi, Alexander > I Want to boot

Re: removing of sddm (debian 9 -kde5) to start in console mode then startx to start kde5

Hi, AlexanderI Want to boot debian 9 in multi user mode (console),then do something then and then to startx kde5/xorg with startx as I do with debian8/kde4 Le Mardi 17 octobre 2017 14h46, Alexander V. Makartsev a écrit : What are you trying to archieve? If you

Re: removing of sddm (debian 9 -kde5) to start in console mode then startx to start kde5

What are you trying to archieve? If you want to start DE you better launch it by starting your display manager (gdm in my case):     $ sudo systemctl start gdm.service On 17.10.2017 17:24, Stephane L wrote: > do I need too to make a .xinitrc with something like /usr/bin/startkde ? > > > Le Mardi

Re: removing of sddm (debian 9 -kde5) to start in console mode then startx to start kde5

do I need too to make a .xinitrc with something like /usr/bin/startkde ? Le Mardi 17 octobre 2017 14h11, Alexander V. Makartsev a écrit : Assuming you have systemd, you have to change final target from graphical to multi-user. This shows possible targets:     $

Re: removing of sddm (debian 9 -kde5) to start in console mode then startx to start kde5

thank you very much alexander I will try this. Le Mardi 17 octobre 2017 14h11, Alexander V. Makartsev a écrit : Assuming you have systemd, you have to change final target from graphical to multi-user. This shows possible targets:     $ sudo systemctl list-units

Re: removing of sddm (debian 9 -kde5) to start in console mode then startx to start kde5

Assuming you have systemd, you have to change final target from graphical to multi-user. This shows possible targets:     $ sudo systemctl list-units --type=target This will show what target is default:     $ sudo systemctl get-default This will set default target to "console mode" you want:    

removing of sddm (debian 9 -kde5) to start in console mode then startx to start kde5

Hi I have tried to remove sddm from /etc/init.d but it starts always with sddm.I want to boot my debian 9 in console mode and do startx to launch kde5 as I do with debian 8 and kde4.does anyone know exactly how to do that ?