Re: search engines (hijacked from rapidly proliferating sess files )

2014-05-25 Thread Slavko
Ahoj,

Dňa Sat, 24 May 2014 19:45:26 -0500 John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com
napísal:

 Ralf Mardorf writes:
  I don't use Google anymore, but to be fair, Google shows suggestions
  while you're typing, so assumed you misspell or you don't remember
  some terms...
 
 Not if you disallow all their cookies and scripts (and, of course,
 have no Google account).

It is terrible (but possible) that Andorid user have not a Google
account. Or Google Code contribution… But no one need to login
by this (or any other) account to do simple search ;-)

Then no matter if one has account or not, but do not be logged can be
proper suggestion...

  Google is easier to use than StartPage, IOW because of this feature
  you might get better results when using Google.
 
 One of the reasons I block Google's scripts and cookies is so that I
 *won't* have that feature.  I find it distracting and irritating.



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Re: search engines (hijacked from rapidly proliferating sess files )

2014-05-24 Thread Tony Baldwin
On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 09:59:40PM -0500, John Hasler wrote:
 Joel Rees writes:
  The question of how evil google is/was/is becoming aside...
 
 Google search works just fine with all ads, cookies, scripts, and
 trackers blocked.

Which is essentially exactly what startpage.com gives you.
Or, really, it gives Google results without the search bubble from tracking.
Google gives me what it thinks I want to see, based on prior activity,
all its tracking of me, its knowledge of my location, political
affiliations, activities, etc. so the results are not objective.
Startpage.com (owned and run by ixquick.com which I also use),
gives the objective, unfiltered google results, no tracking, no
manipulation.
startpage and ixquick are the search engines I use most, but I also do
use duckduckgo for some things (easy for unit conversions, timezone
conversions, and stuff).

tony

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Re: search engines (hijacked from rapidly proliferating sess files )

2014-05-24 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2014-05-24 at 14:50 -0400, Tony Baldwin wrote:
 On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 09:59:40PM -0500, John Hasler wrote:
  Joel Rees writes:
   The question of how evil google is/was/is becoming aside...
  
  Google search works just fine with all ads, cookies, scripts, and
  trackers blocked.
 
 Which is essentially exactly what startpage.com gives you.
 Or, really, it gives Google results without the search bubble from tracking.
 Google gives me what it thinks I want to see, based on prior activity,
 all its tracking of me, its knowledge of my location, political
 affiliations, activities, etc. so the results are not objective.
 Startpage.com (owned and run by ixquick.com which I also use),
 gives the objective, unfiltered google results, no tracking, no
 manipulation.
 startpage and ixquick are the search engines I use most, but I also do
 use duckduckgo for some things (easy for unit conversions, timezone
 conversions, and stuff).

+1 for StartPage. I'm a StartPage user, I don't use Google anymore, but
to be fair, Google shows suggestions while you're typing, so assumed you
misspell or you don't remember some terms, Google is easier to use than
StartPage, IOW because of this feature you might get better results when
using Google.


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Re: search engines (hijacked from rapidly proliferating sess files )

2014-05-24 Thread Brad Alexander
On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 3:00 PM, Ralf Mardorf
ralf.mard...@rocketmail.comwrote:

 +1 for StartPage. I'm a StartPage user, I don't use Google anymore, but
 to be fair, Google shows suggestions while you're typing, so assumed you
 misspell or you don't remember some terms, Google is easier to use than
 StartPage, IOW because of this feature you might get better results when
 using Google.


Blessing and a curse. Google's predictive search has it's own subclass of
meme (
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/google/6161567/The-20-funniest-suggestions-from-Google-Suggest.html,
http://www.halestorm.co.uk/articles/top-ten-funniest-google-instant-searches).
I also read an article where someone was questioned because of the google
instant or whatever they call it, predicting their search while they were
typing.

Normal google searches can even get you a visit from the police (
http://www.theverge.com/2013/8/1/4580654/michele-catalano-google-search-pressure-cookers-backpacks-bomb-scare
).

I'll stick to startpage.


Re: search engines (hijacked from rapidly proliferating sess files )

2014-05-24 Thread John Hasler
Ralf Mardorf writes:
 I don't use Google anymore, but to be fair, Google shows suggestions
 while you're typing, so assumed you misspell or you don't remember
 some terms...

Not if you disallow all their cookies and scripts (and, of course, have
no Google account).

 Google is easier to use than StartPage, IOW because of this feature
 you might get better results when using Google.

One of the reasons I block Google's scripts and cookies is so that I
*won't* have that feature.  I find it distracting and irritating.
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