solved: emacs: ugly characters
lee l...@yun.yagibdah.de writes: how comes that emacs displays the text with ugly characters? The characters from the emacs frame are somehow messed up. I've tried different monospace fonts and different sizes, and they all get messed up alike. Someone wrote me that it looks as if some anti-aliasing is done with the fonts, and I have been thinking the same. I found a chapter about fonts in the emacs documentation and put , | emacs.font: -efont-fixed-medium-r-*-*-16-*-*-*-*-*-*-* ` into my ~/.Xresources. Now emacs uses the same font as xterm, and it looks way better. It seems when you specify fonts in emacs with Options-Set default font ..., you can chose only from fonts known to gtk. Isn't ant-aliasing supposed to make fonts more pretty and easier to read instead of messing them up and making them very straining for the eyes? BTW, I remember that some time ago, there was a discussion about the readability of fonts in X sessions vs. the readability of fonts on the console. Has anyone found a font that can be used in X and is as nice as the font on the console yet? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/878vsguamp@yun.yagibdah.de
Re: solved: emacs: ugly characters
lee l...@yun.yagibdah.de writes: Isn't ant-aliasing supposed to make fonts more pretty and easier to read instead of messing them up and making them very straining for the eyes? It generally does, but like anything, YMMV. Anti-aliasing parameters can have a big effect on the final look (e.g., subpixel rendering vs. gray-scale-only; cleartype-style grid-snapping vs. apple-style fuzzy, etc), and in the end, it's personal preference -- some people prefer the crisp look of traditional fonts, others prefer the smooth look of anti-aliased fonts. Sometimes it just depends on the particular font and circumstance, not any general rule. I generally like anti-aliased fonts better, but with the font anti-aliasing settings tweaked to make them look more contrasty and crisper than the default settings (I use the gnome font-preferences widget to change them). Two important things: (1) use high contrast / light mode, which tries to make character stems etc exactly one pixel wide (even if it means slightly distorting [usually unnoticeably] the character shape/weight), and (2) if you have an LCD, turn on sub-pixel rendering, which often allows the font-renderer to do a better job. -Miles -- Christian, n. One who follows the teachings of Christ so long as they are not inconsistent with a life of sin. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87sjqolq47@catnip.gol.com
Re: solved: emacs: ugly characters
Miles Bader mi...@gnu.org writes: lee l...@yun.yagibdah.de writes: Isn't ant-aliasing supposed to make fonts more pretty and easier to read instead of messing them up and making them very straining for the eyes? It generally does, but like anything, YMMV. [...] Sometimes it just depends on the particular font and circumstance, not any general rule. Yeah, it looks good in the web browser, for example. In the emacs frames, it just makes the fonts hard to read. I generally like anti-aliased fonts better, but with the font anti-aliasing settings tweaked to make them look more contrasty and crisper than the default settings (I use the gnome font-preferences widget to change them). Two important things: (1) use high contrast / light mode, which tries to make character stems etc exactly one pixel wide (even if it means slightly distorting [usually unnoticeably] the character shape/weight), and (2) if you have an LCD, turn on sub-pixel rendering, which often allows the font-renderer to do a better job. Well, I switched back to fvwm-crystal after using KDE for a while, and I have no idea where and how to make anti-aliasing settings. But then, emacs can use gtk fonts, so perhaps the gnome-widget might work. How is it called and how do I start it? It's probably not even installed ... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87oc1ckvrk@yun.yagibdah.de
Re: solved: emacs: ugly characters
2011/7/2 lee l...@yun.yagibdah.de: Well, I switched back to fvwm-crystal after using KDE for a while Because of Emacs, after trying Unity and Gnome Shell, I am happily settled on StumpWM. -- Skype:leandro.gfc.dutra?chat Yahoo!: ymsgr:sendIM?lgcdutra +55 (61) 3546 7191 Google Talk: xmpp:leand...@jabber.org +55 (11) 9406 7191 ICQ: AIM:GoIM?screenname=61287803 sip:leand...@iptel.org MSNIM:chat?contact=lean...@dutra.fastmail.fm -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/calwcdlw520rss4wsaujigvwkcpm0fyay94sgubqythgdawb...@mail.gmail.com
