systemd plans

2013-09-27 Thread Main Backup
Hello everyone! I just want to ask two simple questions about debian future. 1. Will systemd default init system in future? 2. Why I just can't purge systemd-*** in my system now? I don't want it. I don't need it. I hate it by my all heart. If I try to remove it, dbus depends on it as

Re: systemd plans

2013-09-27 Thread Nate Bargmann
I'll guess that you want one of the BSD variants or the Debian kFreeBSD variant as systemd is Linux only as I understand it. - Nate -- The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears this is true. Ham radio, Linux, bikes, and more:

Re: systemd plans

2013-09-27 Thread Ralf Mardorf
I'm not a Debian developer, but my main distro Arch Linux switched to systemd a long time ago. Regarding to the flame wars caused by the transition, people were banned from the Arch general mailing list and the list nowadays is moderated. The issue with packages you experiences has to do with

Re: systemd plans

2013-09-27 Thread recoverym4n
Hi. On Fri, 27 Sep 2013 20:46:02 +0400 Main Backup vvb.bac...@rambler.ru wrote: I just want to ask two simple questions about debian future. 1. Will systemd default init system in future? Why do you ask this question in the debian-user maillist? debian-devel or debian-testing seem to be

Re: systemd plans

2013-09-27 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 12:46 PM, Main Backup vvb.bac...@rambler.ru wrote: I just want to ask two simple questions about debian future. 1. Will systemd default init system in future? 2. Why I just can't purge systemd-*** in my system now? I don't want it. I don't need it. I hate it by my

Re: systemd plans

2013-09-27 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 1:35 PM, Nate Bargmann n...@n0nb.us wrote: I'll guess that you want one of the BSD variants or the Debian kFreeBSD variant as systemd is Linux only as I understand it. And FreeBSD'll switch to launchd and Vadim'll switch to Windows 9. :) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: systemd plans

2013-09-27 Thread recoverym4n
On Fri, 27 Sep 2013 14:27:19 -0400 Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com wrote: libsystemd-login0 is the replacement of consolekit (which has been deprecated) and is used for tracking sessions. Using it doesn't mean that you're using systemd as PID 1. Even Ubuntu's using it. Oh no. What have you done :)

Re: systemd plans

2013-09-27 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 3:02 PM, recovery...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, 27 Sep 2013 14:27:19 -0400 Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com wrote: libsystemd-login0 is the replacement of consolekit (which has been deprecated) and is used for tracking sessions. Using it doesn't mean that you're using systemd

Re: systemd plans

2013-09-27 Thread Joel Rees
(Trying hard to resist, ...) On Sat, Sep 28, 2013 at 3:28 AM, Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 1:35 PM, Nate Bargmann n...@n0nb.us wrote: I'll guess that you want one of the BSD variants or the Debian kFreeBSD variant as systemd is Linux only as I understand it. And