Re: the .xinitrc and .xsession puzzle

2001-06-11 Thread Steve Kowalik
On Sun, Jun 10, 2001 at 06:49:19PM +0200, Alex Suzuki uttered:
 Thanks kent. I'm now using .xinitrc exclusively.
 
 xsetroot -solid black 
 sawfish 
 panel
 
 I'm also backgrounding the windowmanager because I'm using gnome.
 
E?
If you want to drag in gnome you put 'gnome-session' at the end of .xinitrc

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Re: the .xinitrc and .xsession puzzle

2001-06-11 Thread Alex Suzuki
On Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 05:53:45PM +1000, Steve Kowalik wrote:
 E?
 If you want to drag in gnome you put 'gnome-session' at the end of .xinitrc

I don't really need GNOME's session capability. The only thing I use of
GNOME is the panel.

Alex
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the .xinitrc and .xsession puzzle

2001-06-10 Thread Alex Suzuki
Hello friends,

I wanted to ask you guys what ~/.xinitrc and ~/.xsession are all about.
I run Debian woody, GNOME and sawfish as my windowmanager (sawfish-gnome
package).
Somehow GNOME just can't remember its settings, and I think I screwed up
those files anyway. Which one gets read when I start X with startx?
I don't use a display manager like xdm or gdm or whatever.

this is what my .xinitrc looks like:

galeon -s 
xsetroot -solid black 
exec sawfish 
panel


This is what .xsession looks like

#!/bin/sh

xsetroot -solid slategrey 
xrdb -load $HOME/.Xdefaults
exec /usr/bin/gnome-session


Could anybody solve this puzzle for me? Can anyone with a similar
configuration (GNOME/sawfish) post his/her .xinitrc and .xsession?

Regards,
Alex
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Re: the .xinitrc and .xsession puzzle

2001-06-10 Thread ktb
On Sun, Jun 10, 2001 at 12:42:47PM +0200, Alex Suzuki wrote:
 Hello friends,
 
 I wanted to ask you guys what ~/.xinitrc and ~/.xsession are all about.
 I run Debian woody, GNOME and sawfish as my windowmanager (sawfish-gnome
 package).
 Somehow GNOME just can't remember its settings, and I think I screwed up
 those files anyway. Which one gets read when I start X with startx?
 I don't use a display manager like xdm or gdm or whatever.
 
 this is what my .xinitrc looks like:
 
 galeon -s 
 xsetroot -solid black 
 exec sawfish 
 panel
 
 
 This is what .xsession looks like
 
 #!/bin/sh
 
 xsetroot -solid slategrey 
 xrdb -load $HOME/.Xdefaults
 exec /usr/bin/gnome-session
 
 
 Could anybody solve this puzzle for me? Can anyone with a similar
 configuration (GNOME/sawfish) post his/her .xinitrc and .xsession?

.xinitrc is usually the file used for startx but with debian .xsession
can be used with startx.  So really choose one or the other:)

Choosing .xsession allows you the flexibility of starting with either
startx or xdm so in some situations that would be the logical choice.

Which ever file you choose make sure all but one of the commands are
back-grounded with .  Usually back-grounding everything but you're 
window manager is the way to go.
hth,
kent

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Re: the .xinitrc and .xsession puzzle

2001-06-10 Thread Alex Suzuki
On Sun, Jun 10, 2001 at 11:14:33AM -0500, ktb wrote:
 On Sun, Jun 10, 2001 at 12:42:47PM +0200, Alex Suzuki wrote:
 back-grounded with .  Usually back-grounding everything but you're 
 window manager is the way to go.
 hth,
 kent

Thanks kent. I'm now using .xinitrc exclusively.

xsetroot -solid black 
sawfish 
panel

I'm also backgrounding the windowmanager because I'm using gnome.

Alex
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Re: the .xinitrc and .xsession puzzle

2001-06-10 Thread Andrea Vettorello
Alex Suzuki wrote:

 Hello friends,

 I wanted to ask you guys what ~/.xinitrc and ~/.xsession are all about.
 I run Debian woody, GNOME and sawfish as my windowmanager (sawfish-gnome
 package).
 Somehow GNOME just can't remember its settings, and I think I screwed up
 those files anyway. Which one gets read when I start X with startx?
 I don't use a display manager like xdm or gdm or whatever.

 this is what my .xinitrc looks like:

 galeon -s 
 xsetroot -solid black 
 exec sawfish 
 panel

 This is what .xsession looks like

 #!/bin/sh

 xsetroot -solid slategrey 
 xrdb -load $HOME/.Xdefaults
 exec /usr/bin/gnome-session

 Could anybody solve this puzzle for me? Can anyone with a similar
 configuration (GNOME/sawfish) post his/her .xinitrc and .xsession?

In my home dir i've only the .xsession file, and the only thing worth of comment
is the gnome-session command, i've attached it anyway (the gnome-session
command is in the gnome-session package =).

You could control which program to launch with the gnome-control-center in the
Session section...



Andrea
#!/bin/bash

# xconsole -title Debian GNU/Linux Console -geometry  600x69+300+20 -daemon  
-file /dev/xconsole 

# You can replace the line above by seting a WINDOW_MANAGER environment
# variable to set your preferred WM.
export WINDOW_MANAGER=sawfish

# Now execute the window manager and we'll be on our way.  Most people have
# window managers they like better than twm -- install the corresponding
# Debian package and edit the following line appropriately if you're one of
# them.
gnome-session


Re: the .xinitrc and .xsession puzzle

2001-06-10 Thread Alvin Oga

hi alex

.xinitrc is used when you run xinitrc or startx to 
bring up X11

.xsession is used when you log into the X11 screen ( xdm )

if you want your gui and x11/windows to look the same no
matter how you login... make the two files the same
( symlink one to the other )

c ya
alvin


On Sun, 10 Jun 2001, Alex Suzuki wrote:

 Hello friends,
 
 I wanted to ask you guys what ~/.xinitrc and ~/.xsession are all about.
 I run Debian woody, GNOME and sawfish as my windowmanager (sawfish-gnome
 package).
 Somehow GNOME just can't remember its settings, and I think I screwed up
 those files anyway. Which one gets read when I start X with startx?
 I don't use a display manager like xdm or gdm or whatever.
 
 this is what my .xinitrc looks like:
 
 galeon -s 
 xsetroot -solid black 
 exec sawfish 
 panel
 
 
 This is what .xsession looks like
 
 #!/bin/sh
 
 xsetroot -solid slategrey 
 xrdb -load $HOME/.Xdefaults
 exec /usr/bin/gnome-session
 
 
 Could anybody solve this puzzle for me? Can anyone with a similar
 configuration (GNOME/sawfish) post his/her .xinitrc and .xsession?



Re: the .xinitrc and .xsession puzzle

2001-06-10 Thread ktb
On Sun, Jun 10, 2001 at 03:56:24PM -0700, Alvin Oga wrote:
 
 hi alex
 
 .xinitrc is used when you run xinitrc or startx to 
 bring up X11
 
 .xsession is used when you log into the X11 screen ( xdm )
 
 if you want your gui and x11/windows to look the same no
 matter how you login... make the two files the same
 ( symlink one to the other )

In debian .xsession is read when you issue the startx command as well.
kent

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Re: the .xinitrc and .xsession puzzle

2001-06-10 Thread D-Man
On Sun, Jun 10, 2001 at 12:42:47PM +0200, Alex Suzuki wrote:
| Somehow GNOME just can't remember its settings, and I think I screwed up
| those files anyway. Which one gets read when I start X with startx?
| I don't use a display manager like xdm or gdm or whatever.

Like Andrea I only have a .xsession file, and it contains one line:
gnome-session.  

GNOME is really good at forgetting its state, unless you tell it you
want it to remember.  This can be done in serveral ays :
o set automatically save changes to session in the 'Startup
Programs' section in the 'Control Center'

o slelect 'save changes' in the Log Out  dialog

o click Foot-Settings-Save Current Session at any point to save the
settings at that point

HTH,
-D