On Mon, Jun 09, 2014 at 09:56:15AM +0400, Reco wrote:
On Mon, 9 Jun 2014 17:48:37 +1200
Chris Bannister cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz wrote:
On Fri, Jun 06, 2014 at 08:31:34PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
In this case systemd likely is for udev, wich usually also is used
without
On Mon, Jun 09, 2014 at 08:22:51AM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
On Mon, 2014-06-09 at 17:48 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote:
On Fri, Jun 06, 2014 at 08:31:34PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
In this case systemd likely is for udev, wich usually also is used
without systemd, but it's merged by
On Tue, 2014-06-10 at 23:20 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote:
On Mon, Jun 09, 2014 at 08:22:51AM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
On Mon, 2014-06-09 at 17:48 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote:
On Fri, Jun 06, 2014 at 08:31:34PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
In this case systemd likely is for udev,
On Tue, 10 Jun 2014 23:17:50 +1200
Chris Bannister cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz wrote:
On Mon, Jun 09, 2014 at 09:56:15AM +0400, Reco wrote:
On Mon, 9 Jun 2014 17:48:37 +1200
Chris Bannister cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz wrote:
On Fri, Jun 06, 2014 at 08:31:34PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
On Tue, 2014-06-10 at 19:15 +0400, Reco wrote:
So, maybe 'merged' is a wrong word to describe udev-systemd
relationship. But it fits.
All of your points IMO are true. Nobody, neither me, mentions that
currently it is impossible to use udev without caring (too much) about
systemd.
IIUC Reco
On Tue, 2014-06-10 at 17:35 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
On Tue, 2014-06-10 at 19:15 +0400, Reco wrote:
So, maybe 'merged' is a wrong word to describe udev-systemd
relationship. But it fits.
Perhaps merged indeed is a bad term, it is merged by the upstream's
source tree, but it still is a
Is GNOME3 easily available by other *nix alike systems? If not, what
could be the reason? Do other *nix alike systems provide systemd? If
not, what's the reason?
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On Mon, 2014-06-09 at 17:48 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote:
On Fri, Jun 06, 2014 at 08:31:34PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
In this case systemd likely is for udev, wich usually also is used
without systemd, but it's merged by upstream. Just a guess
NO it isn't merged!!! Please stop
On Lu, 09 iun 14, 08:22:51, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
On Mon, 2014-06-09 at 17:48 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote:
On Fri, Jun 06, 2014 at 08:31:34PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
In this case systemd likely is for udev, wich usually also is used
without systemd, but it's merged by upstream. Just
On Mon, Jun 09, 2014 at 01:31:26PM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
Quote from the first link:
The udev built from the systemd source tree will stay compatible
with non-systemd init systems for a long time. This change is mostly
a detail of the build scheme, rather than a change of
On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 6:56 AM, Reco recovery...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Jun 09, 2014 at 01:31:26PM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
Quote from the first link:
The udev built from the systemd source tree will stay compatible
with non-systemd init systems for a long time. This change is mostly
a
On Mon, Jun 09, 2014 at 09:01:24AM -0400, Tom H wrote:
Allow me to remind you this story:
http://lkml.org/lkml/2012/10/3/484
The whole mess started once udev (systemd) upstream took the liberty to
rewrite udev's firmware loader, and blamed kernel for the resulting
breakage. And what
On Mon, Jun 09, 2014 at 02:56:53PM +0400, Reco wrote:
On Mon, Jun 09, 2014 at 01:31:26PM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
Quote from the first link:
The udev built from the systemd source tree will stay compatible
with non-systemd init systems for a long time. This change is mostly
On Tue, 2014-06-10 at 03:14 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote:
On Mon, Jun 09, 2014 at 02:56:53PM +0400, Reco wrote:
On Mon, Jun 09, 2014 at 01:31:26PM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
Quote from the first link:
The udev built from the systemd source tree will stay compatible
with
On Mon, 2014-06-09 at 17:35 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
udev is merged with udev
^ systemd
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On Mon, 09 Jun 2014 17:35:01 +0200
Bernard Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote:
spread FUD, it's a fact that udev is merged with udev. So what's
Oh, I thought it was merged with udev ;-)
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On Mon, 2014-06-09 at 17:35 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
I'm using systemd for my everyday Linux since years
To be more precise, for my Arch that was stable until a few days ago, I
at least use systemd, from = to =:
[rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ grep systemd /var/log/pacman.log
[snip]
[2013-02-17
On Tue, 10 Jun 2014 03:14:27 +1200
Chris Bannister cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz wrote:
On Mon, Jun 09, 2014 at 02:56:53PM +0400, Reco wrote:
On Mon, Jun 09, 2014 at 01:31:26PM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
Quote from the first link:
The udev built from the systemd source tree will
On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 10:01 AM, Reco recovery...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Jun 09, 2014 at 09:01:24AM -0400, Tom H wrote:
Allow me to remind you this story:
http://lkml.org/lkml/2012/10/3/484
The whole mess started once udev (systemd) upstream took the liberty to
rewrite udev's firmware
On Fri, Jun 06, 2014 at 08:31:34PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
In this case systemd likely is for udev, wich usually also is used
without systemd, but it's merged by upstream. Just a guess
NO it isn't merged!!! Please stop spreading FUD!
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On Mon, 9 Jun 2014 17:48:37 +1200
Chris Bannister cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz wrote:
On Fri, Jun 06, 2014 at 08:31:34PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
In this case systemd likely is for udev, wich usually also is used
without systemd, but it's merged by upstream. Just a guess
NO it isn't
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Le 05/06/2014 15:28, François Patte a écrit :
Bonjour,
Since last upgrade, I cannot mount (or umount) any removable media
under xfce4:
I can see the icon on the desktop, mouse over indicates that the
media is not mounted and if I ask (mouse
06.06.2014, 10:56, François Patte francois.pa...@mi.parisdescartes.fr:
Le 06/06/2014 10:29, David Dušanić a écrit :
05.06.2014, 15:28, François Patte
francois.pa...@mi.parisdescartes.fr:
Bonjour,
Since last upgrade, I cannot mount (or umount) any removable
media under xfce4:
I can
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Le 07/06/2014 12:05, David Dušanić a écrit :
06.06.2014, 10:56, François Patte
francois.pa...@mi.parisdescartes.fr:
Le 06/06/2014 10:29, David Dušanić a écrit :
05.06.2014, 15:28, François Patte
francois.pa...@mi.parisdescartes.fr:
05.06.2014, 15:28, François Patte francois.pa...@mi.parisdescartes.fr:
Bonjour,
Since last upgrade, I cannot mount (or umount) any removable media
under xfce4:
I can see the icon on the desktop, mouse over indicates that the media
is not mounted and if I ask (mouse left click) to mount them
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Le 06/06/2014 10:29, David Dušanić a écrit :
05.06.2014, 15:28, François Patte
francois.pa...@mi.parisdescartes.fr:
Bonjour,
Since last upgrade, I cannot mount (or umount) any removable
media under xfce4:
I can see the icon on the desktop,
Ahoj,
Dňa Fri, 06 Jun 2014 10:56:50 +0200 François Patte
francois.pa...@mi.parisdescartes.fr napísal:
Problems are more important than I said first:
1- xfce4 systematically records my sessions when I logout and I don't
want it does
Yes, for me too. I have in my ~/.xsessionrc:
rm -fr
On Fri, 2014-06-06 at 10:56 +0200, François Patte wrote:
Le 06/06/2014 10:29, David Dušanić a écrit :
05.06.2014, 15:28, François Patte
francois.pa...@mi.parisdescartes.fr:
Bonjour,
Since last upgrade, I cannot mount (or umount) any removable
media under xfce4:
I can see the
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1
Bonjour,
Since last upgrade, I cannot mount (or umount) any removable media
under xfce4:
I can see the icon on the desktop, mouse over indicates that the media
is not mounted and if I ask (mouse left click) to mount them the
answer is: not
François Patte francois.pa...@mi.parisdescartes.fr writes:
Since last upgrade, I cannot mount (or umount) any removable media
under xfce4:
I can see the icon on the desktop, mouse over indicates that the media
is not mounted and if I ask (mouse left click) to mount them the
answer is: not
On 05/06/2014, Gour g...@atmarama.net wrote:
François Patte francois.pa...@mi.parisdescartes.fr writes:
Since last upgrade, I cannot mount (or umount) any removable media
under xfce4:
I can see the icon on the desktop, mouse over indicates that the media
is not mounted and if I ask (mouse
Ahoj,
Dňa Fri, 6 Jun 2014 02:32:19 +0800 Bret Busby bret.bu...@gmail.com
napísal:
On 05/06/2014, Gour g...@atmarama.net wrote:
François Patte francois.pa...@mi.parisdescartes.fr writes:
Since last upgrade, I cannot mount (or umount) any removable media
under xfce4:
I can see the
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