Re: [OT] VMware vende su negocio enfocado a usaurios finales

[Juan carlos Rebate]

Pues se me terminó el chollo, no uso vbox porque funciona criminalmente
lento a pesar de contar con un i7 gen 13 y una GPU rtx. Y de qemu ni
hablamos a pesar de tener kvm vmware es el que mejor funciona (con algunos
fallos de red) pero aceptables. Alguna alternativa? O si alguien me dice
como acelerar vbox

El mar., 5 mar. 2024 19:57, Camaleón  escribió:

> El 2024-03-04 a las 20:47 +0100, Juan carlos Rebate escribió:
>
> > > Pues eso, ojo avizor quienes uséis productos de VMware que Broadcom
> > > está empezando a hacer caja «soltando lastre»:
> > >
> > > Broadcom Sells VMware's End-User Computing Division for $4bn
> > > https://news.itsfoss.com/broadcom-vmware-euc/
> > >
> > > KKR comprará la unidad de informática de usuario final de Broadcom por
> > > 4.000 millones de dólares
> > >
> > >
> https://es.investing.com/news/stock-market-news/kkr-comprara-la-unidad-de-informatica-de-usuario-final-de-broadcom-por-4000-millones-de-dolares-93CH-2581920
>
> > Dejarán workstation discontinuado? Lo empeorarán aún más? Se sabe algo?
>
> Supongo que te refieres a VMware Workstation Player/Pro¹, pero ni idea
> de lo que le va a deparar los hipervisores.
>
> Entiendo que por el tipo de empresa que _intuyo_ es KKR va a por la
> pasta y poco más; es decir, a por el negocio dirigido a las empresas y
> el modelo de suscripciones (SaaS).
>
> ¹https://www.vmware.com/products/workstation-player.html
>
> Saludos,
>
> --
> Camaleón
>
>

Re: [OT] VMware vende su negocio enfocado a usaurios finales

[Camaleón]

El 2024-03-04 a las 20:47 +0100, Juan carlos Rebate escribió:

> > Pues eso, ojo avizor quienes uséis productos de VMware que Broadcom
> > está empezando a hacer caja «soltando lastre»:
> >
> > Broadcom Sells VMware's End-User Computing Division for $4bn
> > https://news.itsfoss.com/broadcom-vmware-euc/
> >
> > KKR comprará la unidad de informática de usuario final de Broadcom por
> > 4.000 millones de dólares
> >
> > https://es.investing.com/news/stock-market-news/kkr-comprara-la-unidad-de-informatica-de-usuario-final-de-broadcom-por-4000-millones-de-dolares-93CH-2581920

> Dejarán workstation discontinuado? Lo empeorarán aún más? Se sabe algo?

Supongo que te refieres a VMware Workstation Player/Pro¹, pero ni idea 
de lo que le va a deparar los hipervisores. 

Entiendo que por el tipo de empresa que _intuyo_ es KKR va a por la 
pasta y poco más; es decir, a por el negocio dirigido a las empresas y 
el modelo de suscripciones (SaaS).

¹https://www.vmware.com/products/workstation-player.html

Saludos,

-- 
Camaleón 

Re: [OT] VMware vende su negocio enfocado a usaurios finales

[Juan carlos Rebate]

Dejarán workstation discontinuado? Lo empeorarán aún más? Se sabe algo?

El mié., 28 feb. 2024 11:57, Camaleón  escribió:

> Hola,
>
> Pues eso, ojo avizor quienes uséis productos de VMware que Broadcom
> está empezando a hacer caja «soltando lastre»:
>
> Broadcom Sells VMware's End-User Computing Division for $4bn
> https://news.itsfoss.com/broadcom-vmware-euc/
>
> KKR comprará la unidad de informática de usuario final de Broadcom por
> 4.000 millones de dólares
>
> https://es.investing.com/news/stock-market-news/kkr-comprara-la-unidad-de-informatica-de-usuario-final-de-broadcom-por-4000-millones-de-dolares-93CH-2581920
>
> Saludos,
>
> --
> Camaleón
>
>

[OT] VMware vende su negocio enfocado a usaurios finales

[Camaleón]

Hola,

Pues eso, ojo avizor quienes uséis productos de VMware que Broadcom 
está empezando a hacer caja «soltando lastre»:

Broadcom Sells VMware's End-User Computing Division for $4bn
https://news.itsfoss.com/broadcom-vmware-euc/

KKR comprará la unidad de informática de usuario final de Broadcom por 4.000 
millones de dólares 
https://es.investing.com/news/stock-market-news/kkr-comprara-la-unidad-de-informatica-de-usuario-final-de-broadcom-por-4000-millones-de-dolares-93CH-2581920

Saludos,

-- 
Camaleón 

Re: Vmware Workstation help opens abiword

[Max Nikulin]

On 11/01/2024 22:55, Valerio Vanni wrote:

Il 11/01/2024 15:42, Max Nikulin ha scritto:
Likely you have changed file associations for HTML files from KDE 
System Settings. Try to move away ~/.config/mimeapps.list or comment 
out text/html entry there and Abiword should pop back.


I confirm, it does pop back.
And every change (moving file) needs logout and login to take effect.


KDE may cache MIME settings. It may reread config files after some pause 
however. You may try to force cache update by


kbuildsycoca5

Instead of setting default application you may remove association of 
HTML files with Abiword. In ~/.config/mimeapps.list or 
/etc/XDG/mimeapps.list add to the section "[Removed Associations]" 
(create it if it does not exist):


text/html=abiword.desktop;

Abiword should disappear from "Open with" dialogs. The only way to open 
an HTML file with Abiword would be to run it with the file argument from 
command line or to start Abiword and to use the "Open" dialog.


It seems the approach taken by e.g. GNOME and Android is less confusing 
for users in some cases. If default application has not set yet than 
application chooser appears.

Re: Vmware Workstation help opens abiword

[Valerio Vanni]

Il 11/01/2024 15:42, Max Nikulin ha scritto:

On 11/01/2024 20:18, Valerio Vanni wrote:

Now it's working, but I don't understand why.



Now I find this:

/usr/share/applications/mimeinfo.cache:text/html=abiword.desktop;firefox-esr.desktop;google-chrome.desktop;kfmclient_html.desktop;org.gnome.Epiphany.desktop;org.kde.kimagemapeditor.desktop;
/usr/share/applications/mimeinfo.cache:x-scheme-handler/http=firefox-esr.desktop;google-chrome.desktop;kfmclient_html.desktop;org.gnome.Epiphany.desktop;


So Abiword does not pretend to be an http: protocol handler, just an 
application supporting HTML files.



/home/valerio/.config/mimeapps.list:text/html=firefox-esr.desktop;


Likely you have changed file associations for HTML files from KDE System 
Settings. Try to move away ~/.config/mimeapps.list or comment out 
text/html entry there and Abiword should pop back.


I confirm, it does pop back.
And every change (moving file) needs logout and login to take effect.

But I remember I already had done that (change kde settings, logout, login).

Re: Vmware Workstation help opens abiword

[Max Nikulin]

On 11/01/2024 20:18, Valerio Vanni wrote:

Now it's working, but I don't understand why.



Now I find this:

/usr/share/applications/mimeinfo.cache:text/html=abiword.desktop;firefox-esr.desktop;google-chrome.desktop;kfmclient_html.desktop;org.gnome.Epiphany.desktop;org.kde.kimagemapeditor.desktop;
/usr/share/applications/mimeinfo.cache:x-scheme-handler/http=firefox-esr.desktop;google-chrome.desktop;kfmclient_html.desktop;org.gnome.Epiphany.desktop;


So Abiword does not pretend to be an http: protocol handler, just an 
application supporting HTML files.



/home/valerio/.config/mimeapps.list:text/html=firefox-esr.desktop;


Likely you have changed file associations for HTML files from KDE System 
Settings. Try to move away ~/.config/mimeapps.list or comment out 
text/html entry there and Abiword should pop back.

Re: Vmware Workstation help opens abiword

[Valerio Vanni]

Il 11/01/2024 03:33, Max Nikulin ha scritto:

On 11/01/2024 02:44, Valerio Vanni wrote:
After, guide was not showing anymore. Calling it (click on "help" on 
Vmware application) began opening Abiword.


In kde control panel -> app -> default, Firefox is set as default 
browser.


Likely when sorted by name Abiword is before Firefox and even before 
Chromium. So you you need to override defaults in a mimeapps.list either 
system-wide or user-wide.
Now it's working, but I don't understand why. When I was trying to check 
those locations, I found it working.
But it should have been something other. Perhaps something in sequence 
between uninstall abiword, reinstall abiword, modify default browser etc.


Now I find this:

/usr/share/applications/mimeinfo.cache:application/xhtml+xml=abiword.desktop;firefox-esr.desktop;kfmclient_html.desktop;org.gnome.Epiphany.desktop;
/usr/share/applications/mimeinfo.cache:application/xhtml_xml=google-chrome.desktop;
/usr/share/applications/mimeinfo.cache:text/html=abiword.desktop;firefox-esr.desktop;google-chrome.desktop;kfmclient_html.desktop;org.gnome.Epiphany.desktop;org.kde.kimagemapeditor.desktop;
/usr/share/applications/mimeinfo.cache:x-scheme-handler/http=firefox-esr.desktop;google-chrome.desktop;kfmclient_html.desktop;org.gnome.Epiphany.desktop;
/usr/share/applications/mimeinfo.cache:x-scheme-handler/https=firefox-esr.desktop;google-chrome.desktop;kfmclient_html.desktop;org.gnome.Epiphany.desktop;
grep: /etc/xdg/mimeapps.list: File o directory non esistente
/home/valerio/.config/mimeapps.list:text/html=firefox-esr.desktop;
/home/valerio/.config/mimeapps.list:x-scheme-handler/http=firefox-esr.desktop;kfmclient_html.desktop;abiword.desktop;google-chrome.desktop;
/home/valerio/.config/mimeapps.list:x-scheme-handler/https=firefox-esr.desktop;kfmclient_html.desktop;abiword.desktop;google-chrome.desktop;
/home/valerio/.config/mimeapps.list:text/html=firefox-esr.desktop;
/home/valerio/.config/mimeapps.list:x-scheme-handler/http=firefox-esr.desktop;
/home/valerio/.config/mimeapps.list:x-scheme-handler/https=firefox-esr.desktop;

I'll try to look again when I restore bullseye disk image, this upgrade 
to bookworm is only a test.

After the restore I'll find the broken "abiword instead of firefox" state.

Re: Vmware Workstation help opens abiword

[Max Nikulin]

On 11/01/2024 02:44, Valerio Vanni wrote:
After, guide was not showing anymore. Calling it (click on "help" on 
Vmware application) began opening Abiword.


In kde control panel -> app -> default, Firefox is set as default browser.


Likely when sorted by name Abiword is before Firefox and even before 
Chromium. So you you need to override defaults in a mimeapps.list either 
system-wide or user-wide.


https://wiki.debian.org/DefaultWebBrowser

Check associations for text/html, x-scheme-handler/http, 
x-scheme-handler/https (may be wrapped by mail applications)



grep -E 'x-scheme-handler/https?|text/x?html|application/xhtml' 
/usr/share/applications/mimeinfo.cache 
~/.local/share/applications/mimeinfo.cache /etc/xdg/mimeapps.list 
~/.config/mimeapps.list


For KDE try for various MIME types

ktraderclient5 --mimetype x-scheme-handler/https \
  --servicetype Application

Re: Vmware Workstation help opens abiword

[Valerio Vanni]

Il 10/01/2024 22:28, Cindy Sue Causey ha scritto:

On 1/10/24, Valerio Vanni  wrote:

The issue began after update from debian 10 to 11. And it persists in 12.

Before, Vmware Workstation help was shown in default browser (it's an
html guide).
After, guide was not showing anymore. Calling it (click on "help" on
Vmware application) began opening Abiword.

Vmware Workstation has no option "open guide with...".

In kde control panel -> app -> default, Firefox is set as default browser.

If I uninstall abiword, logoff and login to kde, guide is shown in
Firefox. If I reinstall abiword, issue comes back.

Where should I look?



Hi.. Am taking a stab at this while you're waiting for others here.
What kinds of options are you offered if you try accessing this same
via your favorite file manager?


Now I see that it' not local html pages, it's online.
I remember local pages, but perhaps it was on older versions.

Without Abiword, Firefox tries to open links such as:

docs.vmware.com/en/VMware-Workstation-Pro/17.0/context?id=IDH_MAIN
docs.vmware.com/en/VMware-Workstation-Pro/17.0/context?id=IDH_CFG_MEMORY

But then Vmware site redirect to generic page:
https://docs.vmware.com/en/VMware-Workstation-Pro/index.html
BTW this is vmware's fault, and renders guide almost useless.

But it's still interesting to know why a link is passed to abiword 
instead of default browser.

Re: Vmware Workstation help opens abiword

[Cindy Sue Causey]

On 1/10/24, Valerio Vanni  wrote:
> The issue began after update from debian 10 to 11. And it persists in 12.
>
> Before, Vmware Workstation help was shown in default browser (it's an
> html guide).
> After, guide was not showing anymore. Calling it (click on "help" on
> Vmware application) began opening Abiword.
>
> Vmware Workstation has no option "open guide with...".
>
> In kde control panel -> app -> default, Firefox is set as default browser.
>
> If I uninstall abiword, logoff and login to kde, guide is shown in
> Firefox. If I reinstall abiword, issue comes back.
>
> Where should I look?


Hi.. Am taking a stab at this while you're waiting for others here.
What kinds of options are you offered if you try accessing this same
via your favorite file manager?

I just test drove any old file, coincidentally
(.)xsession-errors(.)old, by right clicking it and choosing Properties
via Thunar. In Trixie and I'm sure in others, Thunar's primary General
tab has an "Open With" option with a drop-down menu. I was able to
change my own long time existing file association issue just now.

If that option exists and seems like it might help but keeps reverting
back to useless, it might take root permissions to perform that
change, depending on the package involved.

DISCLAIMER for new Users: PLEASE BE CAREFUL if you get curious and go
poking around with something like this. I have been there, done that,
many years ago. Ended up rendering my entire computer system useless
while in Dolphin via Knoppix, I think it was. *oops*

File managers can be pretty darn powerful. They're one of my favorite
multi-times daily tools. Thank you, Developers!

Cindy :)
-- 
Talking Rock, Pickens County, Georgia, USA
* runs with rain drenched birdseed *

Vmware Workstation help opens abiword

[Valerio Vanni]

The issue began after update from debian 10 to 11. And it persists in 12.

Before, Vmware Workstation help was shown in default browser (it's an 
html guide).
After, guide was not showing anymore. Calling it (click on "help" on 
Vmware application) began opening Abiword.


Vmware Workstation has no option "open guide with...".

In kde control panel -> app -> default, Firefox is set as default browser.

If I uninstall abiword, logoff and login to kde, guide is shown in 
Firefox. If I reinstall abiword, issue comes back.


Where should I look?

Re: Problem opening VMWare Player

[Curt]

On 2024-01-08, Stephen P. Molnar  wrote:
>
>
>>>
>>> Failed to execute command "@@BINARY@@"
>>> failed to execute child process "@@BINARY@@" (no such file or directory
>> When you run *what*?  What command, exactly?
>>
>> In any case, this is very clearly a failed installation.  The @@BINARY@@
>> is a placeholder that should have been replaced by a program name (with
>> or without a path) during the installation.
>>
>> Either you didn't follow the installation instructions correctly, or
>> something went wrong during the installation, which you'll have to
>> discover and fix before trying the installation again.
>>
> Thanks for the quick reply.
>
> I don't doubt what you're saying. The installer reported that there were 
> no errors. Obviously, it was wrong.

How are you attempting to start vmware? From inside a desktop
environment or window manager or from the command line? If the
former, have you attempted the latter?

Re: Problem opening VMWare Player

[Stephen P. Molnar]

On 01/08/2024 08:53 AM, Greg Wooledge wrote:

On Mon, Jan 08, 2024 at 08:33:11AM -0500, Stephen P. Molnar wrote:

I am running Bookworm.

I have installed VMWare-Player-Full-Bundle v-17.5.0, after checking that
Debian still supports it.

When I attempt running I get an error:

Failed to execute command "@@BINARY@@"
failed to execute child process "@@BINARY@@" (no such file or directory

When you run *what*?  What command, exactly?

In any case, this is very clearly a failed installation.  The @@BINARY@@
is a placeholder that should have been replaced by a program name (with
or without a path) during the installation.

Either you didn't follow the installation instructions correctly, or
something went wrong during the installation, which you'll have to
discover and fix before trying the installation again.


Thanks for the quick reply.

I don't doubt what you're saying. The installer reported that there were 
no errors. Obviously, it was wrong.


--
Stephen P. Molnar, Ph.D.
https://insilicochemistry.net
(614)312-7528 (c)
Skype:  smolnar1

Re: Problem opening VMWare Player

[Greg Wooledge]

On Mon, Jan 08, 2024 at 08:33:11AM -0500, Stephen P. Molnar wrote:
> I am running Bookworm.
> 
> I have installed VMWare-Player-Full-Bundle v-17.5.0, after checking that
> Debian still supports it.
> 
> When I attempt running I get an error:
> 
> Failed to execute command "@@BINARY@@"
> failed to execute child process "@@BINARY@@" (no such file or directory

When you run *what*?  What command, exactly?

In any case, this is very clearly a failed installation.  The @@BINARY@@
is a placeholder that should have been replaced by a program name (with
or without a path) during the installation.

Either you didn't follow the installation instructions correctly, or
something went wrong during the installation, which you'll have to
discover and fix before trying the installation again.

Problem opening VMWare Player

[Stephen P. Molnar]

I am running Bookworm.

I have installed VMWare-Player-Full-Bundle v-17.5.0, after checking that 
Debian still supports it.


When I attempt running I get an error:

Failed to execute command "@@BINARY@@"
failed to execute child process "@@BINARY@@" (no such file or directory

Suggestions for a solution will be much appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

--
Stephen P. Molnar, Ph.D.
https://insilicochemistry.net
(614)312-7528 (c)
Skype:  smolnar1

Re: How to get VMware Player going on Debian 12 bookworm

[The Wanderer]

On 2023-11-06 at 07:50, Marco M. wrote:

> Am 06.11.2023 um 06:52:39 Uhr schrieb Timothy M Butterworth:
> 
>> VirtualBox is not available in any Debian Repo.
> 
> It is available in sid, but not in stable.

And the reason it isn't available in testing is that there's no viable
way to provide security support for it in stable, and testing is
supposed to only contain things that are candidates to become part of
the next stable release. Once upon a time it was made available in each
new testing and then removed before the stable release (and that's how I
was running it, for a fairly long while), but I remember a discussion
which led to the decision that that was not an appropriate practice
given relevant policy.

I don't remember with confidence offhand exactly *why* it was decided
that it isn't viable to provide security support for VirtualBox in
stable. I remember it had something to do with how upstream provides
patches for security fixes, but I don't remember whether it was
"upstream doesn't provide split-out patches per fix, but only one
massive patch when they make a new VirtualBox release" or something more
to the effect of "the license upstream releases its code under does not
permit taking changes out separately like that".

-- 
   The Wanderer

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one
persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all
progress depends on the unreasonable man. -- George Bernard Shaw



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Re: How to get VMware Player going on Debian 12 bookworm

[Marco M.]

Am 06.11.2023 um 06:52:39 Uhr schrieb Timothy M Butterworth:

> VirtualBox is not available in any Debian Repo.

It is available in sid, but not in stable.

Re: How to get VMware Player going on Debian 12 bookworm

[Timothy M Butterworth]

On Mon, Nov 6, 2023 at 4:16 AM జిందం వాఐి  wrote:

> > PPS: If VMware isn't a good choice,
> > would there be a better VM supervisor
> > I could use? If so, can you point me
> > to a set of instructions for it?
>
> * these are MY personal opnions from
> experience [ almost decade ago ]
> [ may not be correct or relevant ]
>   * my laptop with amd processor [ low
> end model ]
>   * installation of qemu was impossible
> because virtualization [ svm ] is not
> enabled in BIOS, only high end models
> have it enabled [ blame on bios vendors
> for poor implementation, eventhough
> it is enabled by amd ] [ kernel 6.7
> commit [ 1 ] fixed incorrect data ]
>
> * so do you have amd or intel?
> * how much ram [ is relevant due to
> recent security incidents affecting
> intel [ little bit more ], amd
>
> * virtualbox [ 2 ], but it is available
> in unstable? [ 3 ] why?
>

VirtualBox is not available in any Debian Repo. It requires a proprietary
compiler to build the VirtualBox Bios. Also there are licensing issues.
Oracle has a Debian stable build and repo for VirtualBox which I personally
use which works well. I am planning on moving to KVM/QEMU personally. I
like VirtualBox but I want a Free Software Open Source solution.


>   * it was working flawlessly
>   * even if you have intel, installation
> of debian [ minimal installation ]
> + twm is more than enough ;)
>
> [ 1 ]
>
> https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20231027170151.GOZTvs%2FwR%2F47ib4+qe@fat_crate.local/T/#u
> [ 2 ] https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/End-user_documentation
> [ 3 ] https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/virtualbox
>
> --
> regards,
> జిందం వాఐి [ jindam, vani ]
> [matrix]_ @jindam.vani:oikei.net
>
>

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Re: How to get VMware Player going on Debian 12 bookworm

[Rick Thomas]

On Sun, Nov 5, 2023, at 7:04 PM, జిందం వాఐి wrote:
>> PPS: If VMware isn't a good choice,
>> would there be a better VM supervisor
>> I could use? If so, can you point me
>> to a set of instructions for it?
>
> * these are MY personal opnions from
> experience [ almost decade ago ]
> [ may not be correct or relevant ]
>   * my laptop with amd processor [ low
> end model ]
>   * installation of qemu was impossible
> because virtualization [ svm ] is not
> enabled in BIOS, only high end models
> have it enabled [ blame on bios vendors
> for poor implementation, eventhough
> it is enabled by amd ] [ kernel 6.7
> commit [ 1 ] fixed incorrect data ]
>
> * so do you have amd or intel?
> * how much ram [ is relevant due to
> recent security incidents affecting
> intel [ little bit more ], amd
>
> * virtualbox [ 2 ], but it is available
> in unstable? [ 3 ] why?
>   * it was working flawlessly
>   * even if you have intel, installation
> of debian [ minimal installation ]
> + twm is more than enough ;)
>
> [ 1 ] 
> https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20231027170151.GOZTvs%2FwR%2F47ib4+qe@fat_crate.local/T/#u
> [ 2 ] https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/End-user_documentation
> [ 3 ] https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/virtualbox
>
> -- 
> regards,
> జిందం వాఐి [ jindam, vani ]
> [matrix]_ @jindam.vani:oikei.net

Thanks for the very useful information!

If I understand you correctly:
1) The box I'm thinking of using has a CPU that is an Intel core i5-7500.  It 
has 4 cores running at 3.4GHz, and It has 24GB RAM.  The OS is Debian 6.1.55-1 
(2023-09-29) -- stable/bookworm.
2) The Virtualbox documentation (but not virtualbox itself?) is available in 
Debian Sid (but only Sid?)
3) Does the documentation (either from Virtualbox.org, or from Debian Sid) 
cover installation and use of Virtualbox under Debian?
4) How do I find out if it has virtualization/svm enabled in the firmware?  If 
it does, would I be better off with KVM/QEMU, or Virtualbox?

Thanks very much!
Rick

Re: Documentation for KVM/QEMU? [Re: How to get VMware Player going on Debian 12 bookworm]

[Jeffrey Walton]

On Mon, Nov 6, 2023 at 1:36 AM Rick Thomas  wrote:
>
> Can anyone recommend good documentation on KVM/QEMU that would allow me to 
> get up to speed on it quickly?

I don't know if or where good documentation exists. Sorry about that.

QEMU/KVM is mostly like Virtual Box. If you know Virtual Box, then you
have most of what you need for QEMU/KVM.

You can create a desktop shortcut for QEMU/KVM by issuing:

cd ~/Desktop
cp -p /usr/share/applications/virt-manager.desktop
chmod +x virt-manager.desktop

Then you can easily launch the UI.

The other trick with QEMU/KVM is, the screen button shows the guest as
expected. And the button with the letter "i" shows the guest
configuration. See the red boxes highlighting the buttons at
 and .

The one problem I have encountered is related to networking. I want a
bridged connection so the VM guest gets an IP address from my DHCP
server. But the network adapter seems to be stuck in NAT mode, even
after switching to bridged mode. So the VM guest always gets a
192.168.0.0/16 address, and never gets an IP address from my DHCP
server. That means I cannot SSH to the guest because I use
172.16.0.0/12 behind my firewall to avoid address and routing problems
from my ISP's router.

Jeff

Re: How to get VMware Player going on Debian 12 bookworm

[జిందం వాఐి]

PPS: If VMware isn't a good choice,
would there be a better VM supervisor
I could use? If so, can you point me
to a set of instructions for it?


* these are MY personal opnions from
experience [ almost decade ago ]
[ may not be correct or relevant ]
 * my laptop with amd processor [ low
end model ]
 * installation of qemu was impossible
because virtualization [ svm ] is not
enabled in BIOS, only high end models
have it enabled [ blame on bios vendors
for poor implementation, eventhough
it is enabled by amd ] [ kernel 6.7
commit [ 1 ] fixed incorrect data ]

* so do you have amd or intel?
* how much ram [ is relevant due to
recent security incidents affecting
intel [ little bit more ], amd

* virtualbox [ 2 ], but it is available
in unstable? [ 3 ] why?
 * it was working flawlessly
 * even if you have intel, installation
of debian [ minimal installation ]
+ twm is more than enough ;)

[ 1 ] 
https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20231027170151.GOZTvs%2FwR%2F47ib4+qe@fat_crate.local/T/#u

[ 2 ] https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/End-user_documentation
[ 3 ] https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/virtualbox

--
regards,
జిందం వాఐి [ jindam, vani ]
[matrix]_ @jindam.vani:oikei.net

Documentation for KVM/QEMU? [Re: How to get VMware Player going on Debian 12 bookworm]

[Rick Thomas]

Can anyone recommend good documentation on KVM/QEMU that would allow me to get 
up to speed on it quickly?

Thanks!
Rick


On Sun, Nov 5, 2023, at 4:33 AM, Michael Kjörling wrote:
> On 5 Nov 2023 10:56 +0100, from andr...@xss.co.at (Andreas Haumer):
>>> PPS: If VMware isn't a good choice, would there be a better VM
>>> supervisor I could use?  If so, can you point me to a set of
>>> instructions for it?
>> 
>> To answer just these questions only: take a look at kvm/qemu and
>> the virt-manager GUI.
>
> Yes, definitely look at KVM/QEMU. "Better" is subjective but certainly
> one huge advantage of KVM over almost anything else is that it's
> already there in the kernel, and you pretty much just need to install
> the tools to manage it. VirtualBox, VMWare and others require adding
> third-party software, which can easily break with a kernel upgrade.
>
> -- 
> Michael Kjörling  https://michael.kjorling.se
> “Remember when, on the Internet, nobody cared that you were a dog?”

Re: How to get VMware Player going on Debian 12 bookworm

[Michael Kjörling]

On 5 Nov 2023 10:56 +0100, from andr...@xss.co.at (Andreas Haumer):
>> PPS: If VMware isn't a good choice, would there be a better VM
>> supervisor I could use?  If so, can you point me to a set of
>> instructions for it?
> 
> To answer just these questions only: take a look at kvm/qemu and
> the virt-manager GUI.

Yes, definitely look at KVM/QEMU. "Better" is subjective but certainly
one huge advantage of KVM over almost anything else is that it's
already there in the kernel, and you pretty much just need to install
the tools to manage it. VirtualBox, VMWare and others require adding
third-party software, which can easily break with a kernel upgrade.

-- 
Michael Kjörling  https://michael.kjorling.se
“Remember when, on the Internet, nobody cared that you were a dog?”

Re: How to get VMware Player going on Debian 12 bookworm

[Marco M.]

Am 05.11.2023 um 01:04:27 Uhr schrieb Rick Thomas:

> But I can't seem to get vmware player to start up.  What am I doing
> wrong?

Start it in a terminal and look for error messages.

Re: How to get VMware Player going on Debian 12 bookworm

[Andreas Haumer]

Hi!

Am 05.11.23 um 10:04 schrieb Rick Thomas:
[...]


PPS: If VMware isn't a good choice, would there be a better VM supervisor I 
could use?  If so, can you point me to a set of instructions for it?



To answer just these questions only: take a look at kvm/qemu and
the virt-manager GUI.

See https://wiki.debian.org/KVM

"better" very much is a function of personal preferences
on an arbitrary scale, though... ;-)

HTH

- andreas

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How to get VMware Player going on Debian 12 bookworm

[Rick Thomas]

The title says it all, I hope.  I've tried installing vmware player on my 
Bookworm according to the instructions from 
https://techviewleo.com/install-vmware-on-debian/

But I can't seem to get vmware player to start up.  What am I doing wrong?  Is 
there a better location to look for instruction?

Thanks,
Rick

PS: My motivation is that I have a young friend (he is mid 20s; I myself am mid 
70s) who wants to learn Linux, and in particular, how to set up and use virtual 
machines.  I have a Dell machine that I'm not using that would be ideal for his 
learning experiences and I would like to make it available to him.  I'm a 
Debian user for over 20 years, so I'd like to base his study on Debian because 
that's what I know best and would be best able to mentor.

PPS: If VMware isn't a good choice, would there be a better VM supervisor I 
could use?  If so, can you point me to a set of instructions for it?

Re: Oftopic fallo de red en vmware

[Juan carlos Rebate]

En mi caso se envían peticiones con la mac del vm pero parece no llegar la
petición al servidor, con una vm-windows si llegan. Cuando digo solo afecta
a Linux sin gui me refiero a las vm. Una vm con gui e IP estática funciona
bien, pero una vm Linux sin gui falla y no sé porqué, quizá el Network
manager realiza tareas por atrás para forzar

El dom., 8 oct. 2023 1:24, Ramses  escribió:

> El 7 de octubre de 2023 20:28:47 CEST, Ramses 
> escribió:
> >El 7 de octubre de 2023 16:07:11 CEST, Juan carlos Rebate <
> nerus...@gmail.com> escribió:
> >>Yo tengo un Intel core i7 12gen 4,8 GHz 10 núcleos y va lentísimo el vbx
> y
> >>el qemu, lo uso para pruebas 3d, compilar con VS studio pro y para
> premiere
> >>pro y un servidor de archivos para conectar desde fuera (no todo a la vez
> >>claro). con vmware va perfecto, y si, la player va incluida con la
> licencia
> >>de workstation además de poderla descargar por si sola (gratis). y si,
> >>comparte 99% de código por eso tiene los mismos fallos que workstation en
> >>el tema de la red. No creo sea tema de dormir, la Ethernet tendría el
> mismo
> >>problema si fuera eso no? Además, que el problema solo afecte a Linux sin
> >>gui?, pareciera hecho a proposito
> >>
> >>El sáb., 7 oct. 2023 14:04, Camaleón  escribió:
> >>
> >>> El 2023-10-06 a las 16:56 +0200, Juan carlos Rebate escribió:
> >>>
> >>> (corrijo el top-posting)
> >>>
> >>> > El vie., 6 oct. 2023 14:14, Camaleón  escribió:
> >>> >
> >>> > > El 2023-10-05 a las 16:27 +0200, Juan carlos Rebate escribió:
> >>> > >
> >>> > > > Hola lista, alguien más se encontró con la imposibilidad de
> conectar
> >>> vía
> >>> > > > dhcp una vm Linux con vmware workstation 17.0.2?, ya contacte con
> >>> vmware
> >>> > > y
> >>> > > > pasan de mi.
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Pues si tienes una licencia de pago, yo pasaría de ellos llevando
> mi
> >>> pasta
> >>> > > a otro proveedor >:-)
> >>> > >
> >>> > > > Se que no es de hardware porque cuando se instala un guest
> >>> > > > Windows funciona bien (no uso vbx o qemu porque son horriblemente
> >>> > > lentos),
> >>> > > > también note que si instalo Linux con gui y le doy una IP
> estática si
> >>> > > > resuelve hacia afuera pero sin gui no, digo Linux porque pasa con
> >>> todas
> >>> > > las
> >>> > > > distros guest pero uso debían como host. Otra curiosidad es que
> esto
> >>> lo
> >>> > > > hago en un portátil, el problema se origina intentando usar
> Bridge en
> >>> > > > vmware con la wifi interna pero con la red cableada no pasa esto
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Mira a ver si tienes activada esta opción para el adptador de red:
> >>> > >
> >>> > > [x] Replicate physical network connection state.
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Configure Bridged Networking for an Existing Virtual Machine
> >>> > >
> >>> > >
> >>>
> https://docs.vmware.com/en/VMware-Workstation-Pro/17/com.vmware.ws.using.doc/GUID-826323AD-D014-475D-8909-DFA73B5A3A57.html
> >>>
> >>> > Las peticiones se envían con la mac de la vm, la opción de
> replicación
> >>> está
> >>> > activa y no hay diferencia en la configuración a nivel usuario, a
> nivel
> >>> de
> >>> > fichero vmx si, claro para configurar componentes compatibles con
> Linux,
> >>> > por ejemplo Windows usa e1000e y Linux e1000, pero eso no tiene nada
> que
> >>> > ver ya que al cambiarlo no funciona, ni siquiera usando el suyo
> propio
> >>> > vmnet3.
> >>>
> >>> Lo que hace esa opción es actualizar el estado del adaptador de red
> >>> inalámbrico cuando conmutas entre la red cableada y la inalámbrica. Y
> >>> si recomienda la opción únicamente para los portátiles y móviles debe
> >>> ser porque VMWare es consciente de lo puñeteras (y los problemas que
> >>> dan) las configuraciones de la gestión de energía en esos equipos, que
> >>> ponen a dormir los componentes si no detectan actividad y eso es lo que
> >>> genera problemas ya que no siempre se despiertan correctamente.
> >>>
> >>> Si no te

Re: Oftopic fallo de red en vmware

[Ramses]

El 7 de octubre de 2023 20:28:47 CEST, Ramses  
escribió:
>El 7 de octubre de 2023 16:07:11 CEST, Juan carlos Rebate  
>escribió:
>>Yo tengo un Intel core i7 12gen 4,8 GHz 10 núcleos y va lentísimo el vbx y
>>el qemu, lo uso para pruebas 3d, compilar con VS studio pro y para premiere
>>pro y un servidor de archivos para conectar desde fuera (no todo a la vez
>>claro). con vmware va perfecto, y si, la player va incluida con la licencia
>>de workstation además de poderla descargar por si sola (gratis). y si,
>>comparte 99% de código por eso tiene los mismos fallos que workstation en
>>el tema de la red. No creo sea tema de dormir, la Ethernet tendría el mismo
>>problema si fuera eso no? Además, que el problema solo afecte a Linux sin
>>gui?, pareciera hecho a proposito
>>
>>El sáb., 7 oct. 2023 14:04, Camaleón  escribió:
>>
>>> El 2023-10-06 a las 16:56 +0200, Juan carlos Rebate escribió:
>>>
>>> (corrijo el top-posting)
>>>
>>> > El vie., 6 oct. 2023 14:14, Camaleón  escribió:
>>> >
>>> > > El 2023-10-05 a las 16:27 +0200, Juan carlos Rebate escribió:
>>> > >
>>> > > > Hola lista, alguien más se encontró con la imposibilidad de conectar
>>> vía
>>> > > > dhcp una vm Linux con vmware workstation 17.0.2?, ya contacte con
>>> vmware
>>> > > y
>>> > > > pasan de mi.
>>> > >
>>> > > Pues si tienes una licencia de pago, yo pasaría de ellos llevando mi
>>> pasta
>>> > > a otro proveedor >:-)
>>> > >
>>> > > > Se que no es de hardware porque cuando se instala un guest
>>> > > > Windows funciona bien (no uso vbx o qemu porque son horriblemente
>>> > > lentos),
>>> > > > también note que si instalo Linux con gui y le doy una IP estática si
>>> > > > resuelve hacia afuera pero sin gui no, digo Linux porque pasa con
>>> todas
>>> > > las
>>> > > > distros guest pero uso debían como host. Otra curiosidad es que esto
>>> lo
>>> > > > hago en un portátil, el problema se origina intentando usar Bridge en
>>> > > > vmware con la wifi interna pero con la red cableada no pasa esto
>>> > >
>>> > > Mira a ver si tienes activada esta opción para el adptador de red:
>>> > >
>>> > > [x] Replicate physical network connection state.
>>> > >
>>> > > Configure Bridged Networking for an Existing Virtual Machine
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> https://docs.vmware.com/en/VMware-Workstation-Pro/17/com.vmware.ws.using.doc/GUID-826323AD-D014-475D-8909-DFA73B5A3A57.html
>>>
>>> > Las peticiones se envían con la mac de la vm, la opción de replicación
>>> está
>>> > activa y no hay diferencia en la configuración a nivel usuario, a nivel
>>> de
>>> > fichero vmx si, claro para configurar componentes compatibles con Linux,
>>> > por ejemplo Windows usa e1000e y Linux e1000, pero eso no tiene nada que
>>> > ver ya que al cambiarlo no funciona, ni siquiera usando el suyo propio
>>> > vmnet3.
>>>
>>> Lo que hace esa opción es actualizar el estado del adaptador de red
>>> inalámbrico cuando conmutas entre la red cableada y la inalámbrica. Y
>>> si recomienda la opción únicamente para los portátiles y móviles debe
>>> ser porque VMWare es consciente de lo puñeteras (y los problemas que
>>> dan) las configuraciones de la gestión de energía en esos equipos, que
>>> ponen a dormir los componentes si no detectan actividad y eso es lo que
>>> genera problemas ya que no siempre se despiertan correctamente.
>>>
>>> Si no te funciona, abre un informe de fallo en VMware, como harías en
>>> cualquier otro caso:
>>>
>>> https://www.vmware.com/es/support/policies/defect.html
>>>
>>> También te podría ayudar a dar con el origen del problema revisar los
>>> registros del hipervisor.
>>>
>>> > En cuanto a tu sugerencia Camaleon, y donde voy? Vbx lento, quemu
>>> > lento y paralels que yo sepa es solo para Mac, hyper-v solo se ejecuta en
>>> > Windows, kvm no entiendo cómo va no encuentro documentación pero vamos,
>>> esa
>>> > supuesta rapidez de kvm con qemu es un mito
>>>
>>> Pues depende de para qué lo estés usando y de tus necesidades,
>>> obviamente. Hoy en día hay más alternativas para la instalación de
>>> 

Re: Oftopic fallo de red en vmware

[Juan carlos Rebate]

Con la lan va fluido aunque yo tengo un GB simétrico y con la vm llegan
solo 200 MB pero el dhcp funciona perfecto, incluso por probar monte un
dhcp server con Windows en el mismo portátil que el debían, osea en mi
debían monte un win server y un debían usando wifi y el debian-vm no pudo
obtener IP pero un Alexa, un android y una smart TV si pudieron obtener una
IP del dhcp-win. Osea que.

El sáb., 7 oct. 2023 19:29, Ramses  escribió:

> El 7 de octubre de 2023 9:45:39 CEST, "Camaleón" 
> escribió:
> >El 2023-10-06 a las 16:56 +0200, Juan carlos Rebate escribió:
> >
> >(corrijo el top-posting)
> >
> >> El vie., 6 oct. 2023 14:14, Camaleón  escribió:
> >>
> >> > El 2023-10-05 a las 16:27 +0200, Juan carlos Rebate escribió:
> >> >
> >> > > Hola lista, alguien más se encontró con la imposibilidad de
> conectar vía
> >> > > dhcp una vm Linux con vmware workstation 17.0.2?, ya contacte con
> vmware
> >> > y
> >> > > pasan de mi.
> >> >
> >> > Pues si tienes una licencia de pago, yo pasaría de ellos llevando mi
> pasta
> >> > a otro proveedor >:-)
> >> >
> >> > > Se que no es de hardware porque cuando se instala un guest
> >> > > Windows funciona bien (no uso vbx o qemu porque son horriblemente
> >> > lentos),
> >> > > también note que si instalo Linux con gui y le doy una IP estática
> si
> >> > > resuelve hacia afuera pero sin gui no, digo Linux porque pasa con
> todas
> >> > las
> >> > > distros guest pero uso debían como host. Otra curiosidad es que
> esto lo
> >> > > hago en un portátil, el problema se origina intentando usar Bridge
> en
> >> > > vmware con la wifi interna pero con la red cableada no pasa esto
> >> >
> >> > Mira a ver si tienes activada esta opción para el adptador de red:
> >> >
> >> > [x] Replicate physical network connection state.
> >> >
> >> > Configure Bridged Networking for an Existing Virtual Machine
> >> >
> >> >
> https://docs.vmware.com/en/VMware-Workstation-Pro/17/com.vmware.ws.using.doc/GUID-826323AD-D014-475D-8909-DFA73B5A3A57.html
> >
> >> Las peticiones se envían con la mac de la vm, la opción de replicación
> está
> >> activa y no hay diferencia en la configuración a nivel usuario, a nivel
> de
> >> fichero vmx si, claro para configurar componentes compatibles con Linux,
> >> por ejemplo Windows usa e1000e y Linux e1000, pero eso no tiene nada que
> >> ver ya que al cambiarlo no funciona, ni siquiera usando el suyo propio
> >> vmnet3.
> >
> >Lo que hace esa opción es actualizar el estado del adaptador de red
> >inalámbrico cuando conmutas entre la red cableada y la inalámbrica. Y
> >si recomienda la opción únicamente para los portátiles y móviles debe
> >ser porque VMWare es consciente de lo puñeteras (y los problemas que
> >dan) las configuraciones de la gestión de energía en esos equipos, que
> >ponen a dormir los componentes si no detectan actividad y eso es lo que
> >genera problemas ya que no siempre se despiertan correctamente.
> >
> >Si no te funciona, abre un informe de fallo en VMware, como harías en
> >cualquier otro caso:
> >
> >https://www.vmware.com/es/support/policies/defect.html
> >
> >También te podría ayudar a dar con el origen del problema revisar los
> >registros del hipervisor.
> >
> >> En cuanto a tu sugerencia Camaleon, y donde voy? Vbx lento, quemu
> >> lento y paralels que yo sepa es solo para Mac, hyper-v solo se ejecuta
> en
> >> Windows, kvm no entiendo cómo va no encuentro documentación pero vamos,
> esa
> >> supuesta rapidez de kvm con qemu es un mito
> >
> >Pues depende de para qué lo estés usando y de tus necesidades,
> >obviamente. Hoy en día hay más alternativas para la instalación de
> >máquinas virtuales e hipervisores que hace unos años, y han mejorado
> >bastante.
> >
> >¿Has probado con la versión Player? Debería compartir código con la
> >Workstation pero no sé si seguirá estando disponible.
> >
> >Para cosas caseras (desarrollo, pruebas) yo utilizaba VBox. Sí, era
> >lento pero lo ejecutaba en un Tecra A7 (Core 2 Duo T2400) con 4GiB de
> >RAM, lo que no sé es cómo se llegaba a cargar la VM.
> >
> >Con las configuraciones de hardware actuales (la RAM ya va por los
> >64/128 GiB de serie) pues algo habrá mejorado en cuanto al rendimiento,
> >digo yo.
> >
> >Para entornos en producción o que necesitan una configuración fina, si
> >estás pagando por una licencia de una aplicación que no solamente no
> >funciona sino que además no te soluciona el problema ni te da
> >alternativas, imagina lo que pasará cuando el problema sea más gordo.
> >
> >Saludos,
> >
>
> El Bridge con la WIFI es lo que no hace bien...
>
> Con la LAN va fino.
>
> Y no va de cambiar de una a otra, porque yo siempre trabajo en WIFI, y
> cuando pruebo en LAN, funciona.
>
>
> Saludos
>
>

Re: Oftopic fallo de red en vmware

[Ramses]

El 7 de octubre de 2023 16:07:11 CEST, Juan carlos Rebate  
escribió:
>Yo tengo un Intel core i7 12gen 4,8 GHz 10 núcleos y va lentísimo el vbx y
>el qemu, lo uso para pruebas 3d, compilar con VS studio pro y para premiere
>pro y un servidor de archivos para conectar desde fuera (no todo a la vez
>claro). con vmware va perfecto, y si, la player va incluida con la licencia
>de workstation además de poderla descargar por si sola (gratis). y si,
>comparte 99% de código por eso tiene los mismos fallos que workstation en
>el tema de la red. No creo sea tema de dormir, la Ethernet tendría el mismo
>problema si fuera eso no? Además, que el problema solo afecte a Linux sin
>gui?, pareciera hecho a proposito
>
>El sáb., 7 oct. 2023 14:04, Camaleón  escribió:
>
>> El 2023-10-06 a las 16:56 +0200, Juan carlos Rebate escribió:
>>
>> (corrijo el top-posting)
>>
>> > El vie., 6 oct. 2023 14:14, Camaleón  escribió:
>> >
>> > > El 2023-10-05 a las 16:27 +0200, Juan carlos Rebate escribió:
>> > >
>> > > > Hola lista, alguien más se encontró con la imposibilidad de conectar
>> vía
>> > > > dhcp una vm Linux con vmware workstation 17.0.2?, ya contacte con
>> vmware
>> > > y
>> > > > pasan de mi.
>> > >
>> > > Pues si tienes una licencia de pago, yo pasaría de ellos llevando mi
>> pasta
>> > > a otro proveedor >:-)
>> > >
>> > > > Se que no es de hardware porque cuando se instala un guest
>> > > > Windows funciona bien (no uso vbx o qemu porque son horriblemente
>> > > lentos),
>> > > > también note que si instalo Linux con gui y le doy una IP estática si
>> > > > resuelve hacia afuera pero sin gui no, digo Linux porque pasa con
>> todas
>> > > las
>> > > > distros guest pero uso debían como host. Otra curiosidad es que esto
>> lo
>> > > > hago en un portátil, el problema se origina intentando usar Bridge en
>> > > > vmware con la wifi interna pero con la red cableada no pasa esto
>> > >
>> > > Mira a ver si tienes activada esta opción para el adptador de red:
>> > >
>> > > [x] Replicate physical network connection state.
>> > >
>> > > Configure Bridged Networking for an Existing Virtual Machine
>> > >
>> > >
>> https://docs.vmware.com/en/VMware-Workstation-Pro/17/com.vmware.ws.using.doc/GUID-826323AD-D014-475D-8909-DFA73B5A3A57.html
>>
>> > Las peticiones se envían con la mac de la vm, la opción de replicación
>> está
>> > activa y no hay diferencia en la configuración a nivel usuario, a nivel
>> de
>> > fichero vmx si, claro para configurar componentes compatibles con Linux,
>> > por ejemplo Windows usa e1000e y Linux e1000, pero eso no tiene nada que
>> > ver ya que al cambiarlo no funciona, ni siquiera usando el suyo propio
>> > vmnet3.
>>
>> Lo que hace esa opción es actualizar el estado del adaptador de red
>> inalámbrico cuando conmutas entre la red cableada y la inalámbrica. Y
>> si recomienda la opción únicamente para los portátiles y móviles debe
>> ser porque VMWare es consciente de lo puñeteras (y los problemas que
>> dan) las configuraciones de la gestión de energía en esos equipos, que
>> ponen a dormir los componentes si no detectan actividad y eso es lo que
>> genera problemas ya que no siempre se despiertan correctamente.
>>
>> Si no te funciona, abre un informe de fallo en VMware, como harías en
>> cualquier otro caso:
>>
>> https://www.vmware.com/es/support/policies/defect.html
>>
>> También te podría ayudar a dar con el origen del problema revisar los
>> registros del hipervisor.
>>
>> > En cuanto a tu sugerencia Camaleon, y donde voy? Vbx lento, quemu
>> > lento y paralels que yo sepa es solo para Mac, hyper-v solo se ejecuta en
>> > Windows, kvm no entiendo cómo va no encuentro documentación pero vamos,
>> esa
>> > supuesta rapidez de kvm con qemu es un mito
>>
>> Pues depende de para qué lo estés usando y de tus necesidades,
>> obviamente. Hoy en día hay más alternativas para la instalación de
>> máquinas virtuales e hipervisores que hace unos años, y han mejorado
>> bastante.
>>
>> ¿Has probado con la versión Player? Debería compartir código con la
>> Workstation pero no sé si seguirá estando disponible.
>>
>> Para cosas caseras (desarrollo, pruebas) yo utilizaba VBox. Sí, era
>> lento pero lo ejecutaba en un Tecra A7 (Core 2 Duo T2400) con 4GiB de
>> R

Re: Oftopic fallo de red en vmware

[Camaleón]

El 2023-10-07 a las 16:07 +0200, Juan carlos Rebate escribió:

> El sáb., 7 oct. 2023 14:04, Camaleón  escribió:
> 
> > El 2023-10-06 a las 16:56 +0200, Juan carlos Rebate escribió:
> >
> > (corrijo el top-posting)
> >
> > > El vie., 6 oct. 2023 14:14, Camaleón  escribió:
> > >
> > > > El 2023-10-05 a las 16:27 +0200, Juan carlos Rebate escribió:
> > > >
> > > > > Hola lista, alguien más se encontró con la imposibilidad de conectar
> > vía
> > > > > dhcp una vm Linux con vmware workstation 17.0.2?, ya contacte con
> > vmware
> > > > y
> > > > > pasan de mi.
> > > >
> > > > Pues si tienes una licencia de pago, yo pasaría de ellos llevando mi
> > pasta
> > > > a otro proveedor >:-)
> > > >
> > > > > Se que no es de hardware porque cuando se instala un guest
> > > > > Windows funciona bien (no uso vbx o qemu porque son horriblemente
> > > > lentos),
> > > > > también note que si instalo Linux con gui y le doy una IP estática si
> > > > > resuelve hacia afuera pero sin gui no, digo Linux porque pasa con
> > todas
> > > > las
> > > > > distros guest pero uso debían como host. Otra curiosidad es que esto
> > lo
> > > > > hago en un portátil, el problema se origina intentando usar Bridge en
> > > > > vmware con la wifi interna pero con la red cableada no pasa esto
> > > >
> > > > Mira a ver si tienes activada esta opción para el adptador de red:
> > > >
> > > > [x] Replicate physical network connection state.
> > > >
> > > > Configure Bridged Networking for an Existing Virtual Machine
> > > >
> > > >
> > https://docs.vmware.com/en/VMware-Workstation-Pro/17/com.vmware.ws.using.doc/GUID-826323AD-D014-475D-8909-DFA73B5A3A57.html
> >
> > > Las peticiones se envían con la mac de la vm, la opción de replicación
> > está
> > > activa y no hay diferencia en la configuración a nivel usuario, a nivel
> > de
> > > fichero vmx si, claro para configurar componentes compatibles con Linux,
> > > por ejemplo Windows usa e1000e y Linux e1000, pero eso no tiene nada que
> > > ver ya que al cambiarlo no funciona, ni siquiera usando el suyo propio
> > > vmnet3.
> >
> > Lo que hace esa opción es actualizar el estado del adaptador de red
> > inalámbrico cuando conmutas entre la red cableada y la inalámbrica. Y
> > si recomienda la opción únicamente para los portátiles y móviles debe
> > ser porque VMWare es consciente de lo puñeteras (y los problemas que
> > dan) las configuraciones de la gestión de energía en esos equipos, que
> > ponen a dormir los componentes si no detectan actividad y eso es lo que
> > genera problemas ya que no siempre se despiertan correctamente.
> >
> > Si no te funciona, abre un informe de fallo en VMware, como harías en
> > cualquier otro caso:
> >
> > https://www.vmware.com/es/support/policies/defect.html
> >
> > También te podría ayudar a dar con el origen del problema revisar los
> > registros del hipervisor.
> >
> > > En cuanto a tu sugerencia Camaleon, y donde voy? Vbx lento, quemu
> > > lento y paralels que yo sepa es solo para Mac, hyper-v solo se ejecuta en
> > > Windows, kvm no entiendo cómo va no encuentro documentación pero vamos,
> > esa
> > > supuesta rapidez de kvm con qemu es un mito
> >
> > Pues depende de para qué lo estés usando y de tus necesidades,
> > obviamente. Hoy en día hay más alternativas para la instalación de
> > máquinas virtuales e hipervisores que hace unos años, y han mejorado
> > bastante.
> >
> > ¿Has probado con la versión Player? Debería compartir código con la
> > Workstation pero no sé si seguirá estando disponible.
> >
> > Para cosas caseras (desarrollo, pruebas) yo utilizaba VBox. Sí, era
> > lento pero lo ejecutaba en un Tecra A7 (Core 2 Duo T2400) con 4GiB de
> > RAM, lo que no sé es cómo se llegaba a cargar la VM.
> >
> > Con las configuraciones de hardware actuales (la RAM ya va por los
> > 64/128 GiB de serie) pues algo habrá mejorado en cuanto al rendimiento,
> > digo yo.
> >
> > Para entornos en producción o que necesitan una configuración fina, si
> > estás pagando por una licencia de una aplicación que no solamente no
> > funciona sino que además no te soluciona el problema ni te da
> > alternativas, imagina lo que pasará cuando el problema sea más gordo.

> Yo tengo un Intel core i7 

Re: Oftopic fallo de red en vmware

[Juan carlos Rebate]

Yo tengo un Intel core i7 12gen 4,8 GHz 10 núcleos y va lentísimo el vbx y
el qemu, lo uso para pruebas 3d, compilar con VS studio pro y para premiere
pro y un servidor de archivos para conectar desde fuera (no todo a la vez
claro). con vmware va perfecto, y si, la player va incluida con la licencia
de workstation además de poderla descargar por si sola (gratis). y si,
comparte 99% de código por eso tiene los mismos fallos que workstation en
el tema de la red. No creo sea tema de dormir, la Ethernet tendría el mismo
problema si fuera eso no? Además, que el problema solo afecte a Linux sin
gui?, pareciera hecho a proposito

El sáb., 7 oct. 2023 14:04, Camaleón  escribió:

> El 2023-10-06 a las 16:56 +0200, Juan carlos Rebate escribió:
>
> (corrijo el top-posting)
>
> > El vie., 6 oct. 2023 14:14, Camaleón  escribió:
> >
> > > El 2023-10-05 a las 16:27 +0200, Juan carlos Rebate escribió:
> > >
> > > > Hola lista, alguien más se encontró con la imposibilidad de conectar
> vía
> > > > dhcp una vm Linux con vmware workstation 17.0.2?, ya contacte con
> vmware
> > > y
> > > > pasan de mi.
> > >
> > > Pues si tienes una licencia de pago, yo pasaría de ellos llevando mi
> pasta
> > > a otro proveedor >:-)
> > >
> > > > Se que no es de hardware porque cuando se instala un guest
> > > > Windows funciona bien (no uso vbx o qemu porque son horriblemente
> > > lentos),
> > > > también note que si instalo Linux con gui y le doy una IP estática si
> > > > resuelve hacia afuera pero sin gui no, digo Linux porque pasa con
> todas
> > > las
> > > > distros guest pero uso debían como host. Otra curiosidad es que esto
> lo
> > > > hago en un portátil, el problema se origina intentando usar Bridge en
> > > > vmware con la wifi interna pero con la red cableada no pasa esto
> > >
> > > Mira a ver si tienes activada esta opción para el adptador de red:
> > >
> > > [x] Replicate physical network connection state.
> > >
> > > Configure Bridged Networking for an Existing Virtual Machine
> > >
> > >
> https://docs.vmware.com/en/VMware-Workstation-Pro/17/com.vmware.ws.using.doc/GUID-826323AD-D014-475D-8909-DFA73B5A3A57.html
>
> > Las peticiones se envían con la mac de la vm, la opción de replicación
> está
> > activa y no hay diferencia en la configuración a nivel usuario, a nivel
> de
> > fichero vmx si, claro para configurar componentes compatibles con Linux,
> > por ejemplo Windows usa e1000e y Linux e1000, pero eso no tiene nada que
> > ver ya que al cambiarlo no funciona, ni siquiera usando el suyo propio
> > vmnet3.
>
> Lo que hace esa opción es actualizar el estado del adaptador de red
> inalámbrico cuando conmutas entre la red cableada y la inalámbrica. Y
> si recomienda la opción únicamente para los portátiles y móviles debe
> ser porque VMWare es consciente de lo puñeteras (y los problemas que
> dan) las configuraciones de la gestión de energía en esos equipos, que
> ponen a dormir los componentes si no detectan actividad y eso es lo que
> genera problemas ya que no siempre se despiertan correctamente.
>
> Si no te funciona, abre un informe de fallo en VMware, como harías en
> cualquier otro caso:
>
> https://www.vmware.com/es/support/policies/defect.html
>
> También te podría ayudar a dar con el origen del problema revisar los
> registros del hipervisor.
>
> > En cuanto a tu sugerencia Camaleon, y donde voy? Vbx lento, quemu
> > lento y paralels que yo sepa es solo para Mac, hyper-v solo se ejecuta en
> > Windows, kvm no entiendo cómo va no encuentro documentación pero vamos,
> esa
> > supuesta rapidez de kvm con qemu es un mito
>
> Pues depende de para qué lo estés usando y de tus necesidades,
> obviamente. Hoy en día hay más alternativas para la instalación de
> máquinas virtuales e hipervisores que hace unos años, y han mejorado
> bastante.
>
> ¿Has probado con la versión Player? Debería compartir código con la
> Workstation pero no sé si seguirá estando disponible.
>
> Para cosas caseras (desarrollo, pruebas) yo utilizaba VBox. Sí, era
> lento pero lo ejecutaba en un Tecra A7 (Core 2 Duo T2400) con 4GiB de
> RAM, lo que no sé es cómo se llegaba a cargar la VM.
>
> Con las configuraciones de hardware actuales (la RAM ya va por los
> 64/128 GiB de serie) pues algo habrá mejorado en cuanto al rendimiento,
> digo yo.
>
> Para entornos en producción o que necesitan una configuración fina, si
> estás pagando por una licencia de una aplicación que no solamente no
> funciona sino que además no te soluciona el problema ni te da
> alternativas, imagina lo que pasará cuando el problema sea más gordo.
>
> Saludos,
>
> --
> Camaleón
>
>

Re: Oftopic fallo de red en vmware

[Ramses]

El 7 de octubre de 2023 9:45:39 CEST, "Camaleón"  escribió:
>El 2023-10-06 a las 16:56 +0200, Juan carlos Rebate escribió:
>
>(corrijo el top-posting)
>
>> El vie., 6 oct. 2023 14:14, Camaleón  escribió:
>> 
>> > El 2023-10-05 a las 16:27 +0200, Juan carlos Rebate escribió:
>> >
>> > > Hola lista, alguien más se encontró con la imposibilidad de conectar vía
>> > > dhcp una vm Linux con vmware workstation 17.0.2?, ya contacte con vmware
>> > y
>> > > pasan de mi.
>> >
>> > Pues si tienes una licencia de pago, yo pasaría de ellos llevando mi pasta
>> > a otro proveedor >:-)
>> >
>> > > Se que no es de hardware porque cuando se instala un guest
>> > > Windows funciona bien (no uso vbx o qemu porque son horriblemente
>> > lentos),
>> > > también note que si instalo Linux con gui y le doy una IP estática si
>> > > resuelve hacia afuera pero sin gui no, digo Linux porque pasa con todas
>> > las
>> > > distros guest pero uso debían como host. Otra curiosidad es que esto lo
>> > > hago en un portátil, el problema se origina intentando usar Bridge en
>> > > vmware con la wifi interna pero con la red cableada no pasa esto
>> >
>> > Mira a ver si tienes activada esta opción para el adptador de red:
>> >
>> > [x] Replicate physical network connection state.
>> >
>> > Configure Bridged Networking for an Existing Virtual Machine
>> >
>> > https://docs.vmware.com/en/VMware-Workstation-Pro/17/com.vmware.ws.using.doc/GUID-826323AD-D014-475D-8909-DFA73B5A3A57.html
>
>> Las peticiones se envían con la mac de la vm, la opción de replicación está
>> activa y no hay diferencia en la configuración a nivel usuario, a nivel de
>> fichero vmx si, claro para configurar componentes compatibles con Linux,
>> por ejemplo Windows usa e1000e y Linux e1000, pero eso no tiene nada que
>> ver ya que al cambiarlo no funciona, ni siquiera usando el suyo propio
>> vmnet3. 
>
>Lo que hace esa opción es actualizar el estado del adaptador de red 
>inalámbrico cuando conmutas entre la red cableada y la inalámbrica. Y 
>si recomienda la opción únicamente para los portátiles y móviles debe 
>ser porque VMWare es consciente de lo puñeteras (y los problemas que 
>dan) las configuraciones de la gestión de energía en esos equipos, que 
>ponen a dormir los componentes si no detectan actividad y eso es lo que 
>genera problemas ya que no siempre se despiertan correctamente.
>
>Si no te funciona, abre un informe de fallo en VMware, como harías en 
>cualquier otro caso:
>
>https://www.vmware.com/es/support/policies/defect.html
>
>También te podría ayudar a dar con el origen del problema revisar los 
>registros del hipervisor.
>
>> En cuanto a tu sugerencia Camaleon, y donde voy? Vbx lento, quemu
>> lento y paralels que yo sepa es solo para Mac, hyper-v solo se ejecuta en
>> Windows, kvm no entiendo cómo va no encuentro documentación pero vamos, esa
>> supuesta rapidez de kvm con qemu es un mito
>
>Pues depende de para qué lo estés usando y de tus necesidades, 
>obviamente. Hoy en día hay más alternativas para la instalación de 
>máquinas virtuales e hipervisores que hace unos años, y han mejorado 
>bastante.
>
>¿Has probado con la versión Player? Debería compartir código con la 
>Workstation pero no sé si seguirá estando disponible.
>
>Para cosas caseras (desarrollo, pruebas) yo utilizaba VBox. Sí, era 
>lento pero lo ejecutaba en un Tecra A7 (Core 2 Duo T2400) con 4GiB de 
>RAM, lo que no sé es cómo se llegaba a cargar la VM.
>
>Con las configuraciones de hardware actuales (la RAM ya va por los 
>64/128 GiB de serie) pues algo habrá mejorado en cuanto al rendimiento, 
>digo yo.
>
>Para entornos en producción o que necesitan una configuración fina, si 
>estás pagando por una licencia de una aplicación que no solamente no 
>funciona sino que además no te soluciona el problema ni te da 
>alternativas, imagina lo que pasará cuando el problema sea más gordo.
>
>Saludos,
>

El Bridge con la WIFI es lo que no hace bien...

Con la LAN va fino.

Y no va de cambiar de una a otra, porque yo siempre trabajo en WIFI, y cuando 
pruebo en LAN, funciona.


Saludos

Re: Oftopic fallo de red en vmware

[Ramses]

El 7 de octubre de 2023 9:45:39 CEST, "Camaleón"  escribió:
>El 2023-10-06 a las 16:56 +0200, Juan carlos Rebate escribió:
>
>(corrijo el top-posting)
>
>> El vie., 6 oct. 2023 14:14, Camaleón  escribió:
>> 
>> > El 2023-10-05 a las 16:27 +0200, Juan carlos Rebate escribió:
>> >
>> > > Hola lista, alguien más se encontró con la imposibilidad de conectar vía
>> > > dhcp una vm Linux con vmware workstation 17.0.2?, ya contacte con vmware
>> > y
>> > > pasan de mi.
>> >
>> > Pues si tienes una licencia de pago, yo pasaría de ellos llevando mi pasta
>> > a otro proveedor >:-)
>> >
>> > > Se que no es de hardware porque cuando se instala un guest
>> > > Windows funciona bien (no uso vbx o qemu porque son horriblemente
>> > lentos),
>> > > también note que si instalo Linux con gui y le doy una IP estática si
>> > > resuelve hacia afuera pero sin gui no, digo Linux porque pasa con todas
>> > las
>> > > distros guest pero uso debían como host. Otra curiosidad es que esto lo
>> > > hago en un portátil, el problema se origina intentando usar Bridge en
>> > > vmware con la wifi interna pero con la red cableada no pasa esto
>> >
>> > Mira a ver si tienes activada esta opción para el adptador de red:
>> >
>> > [x] Replicate physical network connection state.
>> >
>> > Configure Bridged Networking for an Existing Virtual Machine
>> >
>> > https://docs.vmware.com/en/VMware-Workstation-Pro/17/com.vmware.ws.using.doc/GUID-826323AD-D014-475D-8909-DFA73B5A3A57.html
>
>> Las peticiones se envían con la mac de la vm, la opción de replicación está
>> activa y no hay diferencia en la configuración a nivel usuario, a nivel de
>> fichero vmx si, claro para configurar componentes compatibles con Linux,
>> por ejemplo Windows usa e1000e y Linux e1000, pero eso no tiene nada que
>> ver ya que al cambiarlo no funciona, ni siquiera usando el suyo propio
>> vmnet3. 
>
>Lo que hace esa opción es actualizar el estado del adaptador de red 
>inalámbrico cuando conmutas entre la red cableada y la inalámbrica. Y 
>si recomienda la opción únicamente para los portátiles y móviles debe 
>ser porque VMWare es consciente de lo puñeteras (y los problemas que 
>dan) las configuraciones de la gestión de energía en esos equipos, que 
>ponen a dormir los componentes si no detectan actividad y eso es lo que 
>genera problemas ya que no siempre se despiertan correctamente.
>
>Si no te funciona, abre un informe de fallo en VMware, como harías en 
>cualquier otro caso:
>
>https://www.vmware.com/es/support/policies/defect.html
>
>También te podría ayudar a dar con el origen del problema revisar los 
>registros del hipervisor.
>
>> En cuanto a tu sugerencia Camaleon, y donde voy? Vbx lento, quemu
>> lento y paralels que yo sepa es solo para Mac, hyper-v solo se ejecuta en
>> Windows, kvm no entiendo cómo va no encuentro documentación pero vamos, esa
>> supuesta rapidez de kvm con qemu es un mito
>
>Pues depende de para qué lo estés usando y de tus necesidades, 
>obviamente. Hoy en día hay más alternativas para la instalación de 
>máquinas virtuales e hipervisores que hace unos años, y han mejorado 
>bastante.
>
>¿Has probado con la versión Player? Debería compartir código con la 
>Workstation pero no sé si seguirá estando disponible.
>
>Para cosas caseras (desarrollo, pruebas) yo utilizaba VBox. Sí, era 
>lento pero lo ejecutaba en un Tecra A7 (Core 2 Duo T2400) con 4GiB de 
>RAM, lo que no sé es cómo se llegaba a cargar la VM.
>
>Con las configuraciones de hardware actuales (la RAM ya va por los 
>64/128 GiB de serie) pues algo habrá mejorado en cuanto al rendimiento, 
>digo yo.
>
>Para entornos en producción o que necesitan una configuración fina, si 
>estás pagando por una licencia de una aplicación que no solamente no 
>funciona sino que además no te soluciona el problema ni te da 
>alternativas, imagina lo que pasará cuando el problema sea más gordo.
>
>Saludos,
>

Yo estoy usando Player sobre W10 y pasa lo mismo.

Y las respuestas el los foros de VMWare es: ¿Has probado si funciona el DHCP 
Server?


Saludos

Re: Oftopic fallo de red en vmware

[Camaleón]

El 2023-10-06 a las 16:56 +0200, Juan carlos Rebate escribió:

(corrijo el top-posting)

> El vie., 6 oct. 2023 14:14, Camaleón  escribió:
> 
> > El 2023-10-05 a las 16:27 +0200, Juan carlos Rebate escribió:
> >
> > > Hola lista, alguien más se encontró con la imposibilidad de conectar vía
> > > dhcp una vm Linux con vmware workstation 17.0.2?, ya contacte con vmware
> > y
> > > pasan de mi.
> >
> > Pues si tienes una licencia de pago, yo pasaría de ellos llevando mi pasta
> > a otro proveedor >:-)
> >
> > > Se que no es de hardware porque cuando se instala un guest
> > > Windows funciona bien (no uso vbx o qemu porque son horriblemente
> > lentos),
> > > también note que si instalo Linux con gui y le doy una IP estática si
> > > resuelve hacia afuera pero sin gui no, digo Linux porque pasa con todas
> > las
> > > distros guest pero uso debían como host. Otra curiosidad es que esto lo
> > > hago en un portátil, el problema se origina intentando usar Bridge en
> > > vmware con la wifi interna pero con la red cableada no pasa esto
> >
> > Mira a ver si tienes activada esta opción para el adptador de red:
> >
> > [x] Replicate physical network connection state.
> >
> > Configure Bridged Networking for an Existing Virtual Machine
> >
> > https://docs.vmware.com/en/VMware-Workstation-Pro/17/com.vmware.ws.using.doc/GUID-826323AD-D014-475D-8909-DFA73B5A3A57.html

> Las peticiones se envían con la mac de la vm, la opción de replicación está
> activa y no hay diferencia en la configuración a nivel usuario, a nivel de
> fichero vmx si, claro para configurar componentes compatibles con Linux,
> por ejemplo Windows usa e1000e y Linux e1000, pero eso no tiene nada que
> ver ya que al cambiarlo no funciona, ni siquiera usando el suyo propio
> vmnet3. 

Lo que hace esa opción es actualizar el estado del adaptador de red 
inalámbrico cuando conmutas entre la red cableada y la inalámbrica. Y 
si recomienda la opción únicamente para los portátiles y móviles debe 
ser porque VMWare es consciente de lo puñeteras (y los problemas que 
dan) las configuraciones de la gestión de energía en esos equipos, que 
ponen a dormir los componentes si no detectan actividad y eso es lo que 
genera problemas ya que no siempre se despiertan correctamente.

Si no te funciona, abre un informe de fallo en VMware, como harías en 
cualquier otro caso:

https://www.vmware.com/es/support/policies/defect.html

También te podría ayudar a dar con el origen del problema revisar los 
registros del hipervisor.

> En cuanto a tu sugerencia Camaleon, y donde voy? Vbx lento, quemu
> lento y paralels que yo sepa es solo para Mac, hyper-v solo se ejecuta en
> Windows, kvm no entiendo cómo va no encuentro documentación pero vamos, esa
> supuesta rapidez de kvm con qemu es un mito

Pues depende de para qué lo estés usando y de tus necesidades, 
obviamente. Hoy en día hay más alternativas para la instalación de 
máquinas virtuales e hipervisores que hace unos años, y han mejorado 
bastante.

¿Has probado con la versión Player? Debería compartir código con la 
Workstation pero no sé si seguirá estando disponible.

Para cosas caseras (desarrollo, pruebas) yo utilizaba VBox. Sí, era 
lento pero lo ejecutaba en un Tecra A7 (Core 2 Duo T2400) con 4GiB de 
RAM, lo que no sé es cómo se llegaba a cargar la VM.

Con las configuraciones de hardware actuales (la RAM ya va por los 
64/128 GiB de serie) pues algo habrá mejorado en cuanto al rendimiento, 
digo yo.

Para entornos en producción o que necesitan una configuración fina, si 
estás pagando por una licencia de una aplicación que no solamente no 
funciona sino que además no te soluciona el problema ni te da 
alternativas, imagina lo que pasará cuando el problema sea más gordo.

Saludos,

-- 
Camaleón 

Re: Oftopic fallo de red en vmware

[Antonio Trujillo Carmona]

Si pasa con la wifi y no con ether, yo diría que es problema de la 
configuración del bridge, pero so no pasa con wifi+windows no es de eso.
Revisa la diferencia de configuración entre windows y linux.

El 5 de octubre de 2023 16:27:55 CEST, Juan carlos Rebate  
escribió:
>Hola lista, alguien más se encontró con la imposibilidad de conectar vía
>dhcp una vm Linux con vmware workstation 17.0.2?, ya contacte con vmware y
>pasan de mi. Se que no es de hardware porque cuando se instala un guest
>Windows funciona bien (no uso vbx o qemu porque son horriblemente lentos),
>también note que si instalo Linux con gui y le doy una IP estática si
>resuelve hacia afuera pero sin gui no, digo Linux porque pasa con todas las
>distros guest pero uso debían como host. Otra curiosidad es que esto lo
>hago en un portátil, el problema se origina intentando usar Bridge en
>vmware con la wifi interna pero con la red cableada no pasa esto

Re: Oftopic fallo de red en vmware

[Ramses]

El 5 de octubre de 2023 16:27:55 CEST, Juan carlos Rebate  
escribió:
>Hola lista, alguien más se encontró con la imposibilidad de conectar vía
>dhcp una vm Linux con vmware workstation 17.0.2?, ya contacte con vmware y
>pasan de mi. Se que no es de hardware porque cuando se instala un guest
>Windows funciona bien (no uso vbx o qemu porque son horriblemente lentos),
>también note que si instalo Linux con gui y le doy una IP estática si
>resuelve hacia afuera pero sin gui no, digo Linux porque pasa con todas las
>distros guest pero uso debían como host. Otra curiosidad es que esto lo
>hago en un portátil, el problema se origina intentando usar Bridge en
>vmware con la wifi interna pero con la red cableada no pasa esto

Correcto, eso pasa con la Red WIFI, no llegan a coger IP por DHCP. Sí le pones 
la IP fija, funciona. Con la Red Cableada coge perfectamente la IP por DHCP.

He capturado para ver si se lanzan las peticiones, y se mandan, pero no me he 
fijado en el tráfico para detectar si es que por WIFI manda las peticiones con 
la misma MAC de la WIFI, en vez de la MAC de la VM y por la LAN las lance con 
la MAC la VM.

Hay mucha gente que le pasa, sobre todo con el VMWare Player, pero no he 
encontrado la solución.

A mí me pasa en un Windows con VMWare Player con una VM Linux.


Saludos

Oftopic fallo de red en vmware

[Juan carlos Rebate]

Hola lista, alguien más se encontró con la imposibilidad de conectar vía
dhcp una vm Linux con vmware workstation 17.0.2?, ya contacte con vmware y
pasan de mi. Se que no es de hardware porque cuando se instala un guest
Windows funciona bien (no uso vbx o qemu porque son horriblemente lentos),
también note que si instalo Linux con gui y le doy una IP estática si
resuelve hacia afuera pero sin gui no, digo Linux porque pasa con todas las
distros guest pero uso debían como host. Otra curiosidad es que esto lo
hago en un portátil, el problema se origina intentando usar Bridge en
vmware con la wifi interna pero con la red cableada no pasa esto

Convertendo máquinas virtuais do KVM/libvirt para VMWARE e o formato OVA

[Atenágoras Silva]

Olá pessoal, tudo bem?
Estou fazendo uma disciplina de sistemas operacionais em que a proposta é
mexer no MINIX.
Temos de entregar as máquinas virtuais rodando MINIX com os nossos códigos
e os programas criados e executados dentro da máquina virtual.
Até aqui, tudo bem.
O problema é que o professor quer a máquina virtual no formato .ova
Pelo que eu andei pesquisando, este formato é um vmdk com um arquivo
descritor .xml, se eu não me engano.
Sei que é possível converter .qcow2 para este outro formato .vmdk então.
Mas como, a partir disto, converter em .ova?

Atenciosamente,
Atenágoras Souza Silva.

Re: Windows on VMware on Deb 11: safely usable?

[john doe]

On 9/1/2022 4:28 PM, Tom Browder wrote:

On Mon, Aug 22, 2022 at 1:26 PM john doe  wrote:
...

So I will try Debian 11's packages "qemu-kvm" and "aqemu" and install
Windows 10" as a test on my current main host, but only if I can remove all
if I need to and if it will not interfere with my smooth running setup. Is

...

If you go with Libvirt, you can remove everything if you so choose by
doing something like:
$ apt-get --autoremove purge libvirt


So I should install package libvrt and that's all I need? Will it
bring in all the other packages mentioned above?



No sorry there is no libvirt pkg in Debian, I used the wiki [1] to get
me going.

If you want to purge, you should substitute the libvirt pkg above by
'qemu-system libvirt-daemon-system'.

If you also add virt-manager or virt-inst, you will need to also add
those on the command line.


[1] https://wiki.debian.org/KVM#Installation

--
John Doe

Re: Windows on VMware on Deb 11: safely usable?

[Porter Smith]

You should be able to do that, however the main restricting factor is your host 
machines number of virtual  Threads (cps)  in addition to the amount of 
physical memory or ram that your  main board has available to use which is 
usually decreased due to your host ps and also the professor also used some 
threads for housekeeping tasks such as   managing memory and data bus  
maintenance. 

On September 1, 2022 9:19:39 AM PDT, "Махно"  
wrote:
>Helli. You need to install these packages. As root (or sudo) apt
>install qemu-kvm libvirt-clients libvirt-daemon libvirt-daemon-system
>bridge-utils virtinst virt-manager. It is a good idea to add your user
>to libvirt and ibvirt-qemu groups. As root (or sudo) #adduser username
>libvirt #adduser username libvirt-qemu. Also reboot is required.
>
>2022-09-01, kt, 17:29 Tom Browder  rašė:
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 22, 2022 at 1:26 PM john doe  wrote:
>> ...
>> > > So I will try Debian 11's packages "qemu-kvm" and "aqemu" and install
>> > > Windows 10" as a test on my current main host, but only if I can remove 
>> > > all
>> > > if I need to and if it will not interfere with my smooth running setup. 
>> > > Is
>> ...
>> > If you go with Libvirt, you can remove everything if you so choose by
>> > doing something like:
>> > $ apt-get --autoremove purge libvirt
>>
>> So I should install package libvrt and that's all I need? Will it
>> bring in all the other packages mentioned above?
>>
>> -Tom
>>
>

Re: Windows on VMware on Deb 11: safely usable?

[Tom Browder]

On Thu, Sep 1, 2022 at 11:19 Махно  wrote:

> Helli. You need to install these packages. As

…

Thank you very much!

-Tom

Re: Windows on VMware on Deb 11: safely usable?

[Махно]

Helli. You need to install these packages. As root (or sudo) apt
install qemu-kvm libvirt-clients libvirt-daemon libvirt-daemon-system
bridge-utils virtinst virt-manager. It is a good idea to add your user
to libvirt and ibvirt-qemu groups. As root (or sudo) #adduser username
libvirt #adduser username libvirt-qemu. Also reboot is required.

2022-09-01, kt, 17:29 Tom Browder  rašė:
>
> On Mon, Aug 22, 2022 at 1:26 PM john doe  wrote:
> ...
> > > So I will try Debian 11's packages "qemu-kvm" and "aqemu" and install
> > > Windows 10" as a test on my current main host, but only if I can remove 
> > > all
> > > if I need to and if it will not interfere with my smooth running setup. Is
> ...
> > If you go with Libvirt, you can remove everything if you so choose by
> > doing something like:
> > $ apt-get --autoremove purge libvirt
>
> So I should install package libvrt and that's all I need? Will it
> bring in all the other packages mentioned above?
>
> -Tom
>

Re: Windows on VMware on Deb 11: safely usable?

[Tom Browder]

On Mon, Aug 22, 2022 at 1:26 PM john doe  wrote:
...
> > So I will try Debian 11's packages "qemu-kvm" and "aqemu" and install
> > Windows 10" as a test on my current main host, but only if I can remove all
> > if I need to and if it will not interfere with my smooth running setup. Is
...
> If you go with Libvirt, you can remove everything if you so choose by
> doing something like:
> $ apt-get --autoremove purge libvirt

So I should install package libvrt and that's all I need? Will it
bring in all the other packages mentioned above?

-Tom

Re: Windows on VMware on Deb 11: safely usable?

[john doe]

On 8/22/2022 2:41 PM, Tom Browder wrote:

On Wed, Aug 17, 2022 at 21:39 step...@gmail.com  wrote:


On 8/17/22 19:35, Stefan Monnier wrote:

Tom Browder [2022-08-17 05:53:05] wrote:

I would love to run Windows on a VM on Debian iff I can have it be

reliable

enough to use with reasonable response (no games, just Office 360, IO
Drive, H Block, and such). I haven't kept up with the VM world but a
quick search shows VMware might be a good choice.


Last I had to run a Windows VM I used kvm (aka Qemu) and that worked
very nicely.  It's easy to install (it's in the Debian repositories),
very featureful, and used for "real systems" (tho in my case I always
used it very punctually to run some specific tool only available in
Windows).


Yep; same. Ran multiple windows vms in kvm (libvirt/qemu). Stable and
solid.



So I will try Debian 11's packages "qemu-kvm" and "aqemu" and install
Windows 10" as a test on my current main host, but only if I can remove all
if I need to and if it will not interfere with my smooth running setup. Is
that true?

>

Impossible to answer as we do not know what 'will not interfere with my
smooth running setup' implies.

If you go with Libvirt, you can remove everything if you so choose by
doing something like:

$ apt-get --autoremove purge libvirt


When you get the hang of it I'm pretty sure that you won't go back! :)

--
John Doe

Re: Windows on VMware on Deb 11: safely usable?

[Bob Weber]

On 8/22/22 08:41, Tom Browder wrote:

On Wed, Aug 17, 2022 at 21:39 step...@gmail.com  wrote:

On 8/17/22 19:35, Stefan Monnier wrote:
> Tom Browder [2022-08-17 05:53:05] wrote:
>> I would love to run Windows on a VM on Debian iff I can have it be 
reliable
>> enough to use with reasonable response (no games, just Office 360, IO
>> Drive, H Block, and such). I haven't kept up with the VM world but a
>> quick search shows VMware might be a good choice.
>
> Last I had to run a Windows VM I used kvm (aka Qemu) and that worked
> very nicely.  It's easy to install (it's in the Debian repositories),
> very featureful, and used for "real systems" (tho in my case I always
> used it very punctually to run some specific tool only available in
> Windows).

Yep; same. Ran multiple windows vms in kvm (libvirt/qemu). Stable and solid.


So I will try Debian 11's packages "qemu-kvm" and "aqemu" and install Windows 
10" as a test on my current main host, but only if I can remove all if I need 
to and if it will not interfere with my smooth running setup. Is that true?


Note if I proceed and need help, I will start a new thread.

-Tom


Why not try virt-manager package.  At least it is updated recently.  
See:https://virt-manager.org/ for details. It even runs VMs on remote machines 
over ssh ... a function I've used before.


When you run a VM it displays it in a window with full graphics and mouse 
support.  I have 20 or so VMs ... even several Windows 10 ... to try updates for 
Debian testing before I commit them to my main host machine.  You can easily set 
the number of CPUs, memory, disk space, graphics, network and more for the VM.  
You can pass USB devices to the VM all through virt-manager.


I have run a weather station in a Debian VM for over 8 years with little 
problem.

I am running a 10+ year old AMD 6 core CPU with 24GB memory.  Windows 10 seems 
to run fine with 5GB of memory.



--


*...Bob*

Re: Windows on VMware on Deb 11: safely usable?

[Tom Browder]

On Wed, Aug 17, 2022 at 21:39 step...@gmail.com  wrote:

> On 8/17/22 19:35, Stefan Monnier wrote:
> > Tom Browder [2022-08-17 05:53:05] wrote:
> >> I would love to run Windows on a VM on Debian iff I can have it be
> reliable
> >> enough to use with reasonable response (no games, just Office 360, IO
> >> Drive, H Block, and such). I haven't kept up with the VM world but a
> >> quick search shows VMware might be a good choice.
> >
> > Last I had to run a Windows VM I used kvm (aka Qemu) and that worked
> > very nicely.  It's easy to install (it's in the Debian repositories),
> > very featureful, and used for "real systems" (tho in my case I always
> > used it very punctually to run some specific tool only available in
> > Windows).
>
> Yep; same. Ran multiple windows vms in kvm (libvirt/qemu). Stable and
> solid.


So I will try Debian 11's packages "qemu-kvm" and "aqemu" and install
Windows 10" as a test on my current main host, but only if I can remove all
if I need to and if it will not interfere with my smooth running setup. Is
that true?

Note if I proceed and need help, I will start a new thread.

-Tom

Re: Windows on VMware on Deb 11: safely usable?

[Jeremy Ardley]

On 18/8/22 7:48 pm, Jeremy Nicoll wrote:

On Wed, 17 Aug 2022, at 12:38, Jeremy Ardley wrote:


As an aside, a Windows host for a client sucks big time. Windows will
automatically restart periodically no matter what you do to prevent it.

How often does that happen?

I only ask because it doesn't for my pretty much always-on W8.1 laptop.

I /choose/ to cold restart it every few weeks, when I remember, but it's
not happening at random.

No Windows Updates get installed automatically on that machine.

I believe though that managing this gets harder on W10/W11 especially
if one does not have the "Pro" or "Enterprise" versions of the OS.



I use Windows 11, and previously Windows 10. I run a Windows 7 client 
because due to purely evil 'licensing' by Reckon I am unable to move 
software I have bought to any other system. Luckily I figured this was 
likely years ago and did the install on a VM (which is also banned by 
Reckon, but needs must)


I have followed any number of recipes to stop the Windows host reboot 
but none work; and I'm pretty sure Microsoft has a team plugging any 
work-arounds in near real-time. You may well be right that Enterprise 
managed systems don't have the same problem.


With regard to runing Windows clients, there may be restrictions on the 
version of client you can put in a VM - such as OEM versions may not be 
legally installed on a VM. The rules have changed over time and I don't 
guarantee to be up to date on which are presently applicable.



--
Jeremy



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Re: Windows on VMware on Deb 11: safely usable?

[Jeremy Nicoll]

On Wed, 17 Aug 2022, at 12:38, Jeremy Ardley wrote:

> As an aside, a Windows host for a client sucks big time. Windows will 
> automatically restart periodically no matter what you do to prevent it. 

How often does that happen?

I only ask because it doesn't for my pretty much always-on W8.1 laptop.

I /choose/ to cold restart it every few weeks, when I remember, but it's
not happening at random.

No Windows Updates get installed automatically on that machine.

I believe though that managing this gets harder on W10/W11 especially
if one does not have the "Pro" or "Enterprise" versions of the OS.

-- 
Jeremy Nicoll - my opinions are my own.

Re: Windows on VMware on Deb 11: safely usable?

[step...@gmail.com]

On 8/17/22 19:35, Stefan Monnier wrote:

Tom Browder [2022-08-17 05:53:05] wrote:

I would love to run Windows on a VM on Debian iff I can have it be reliable
enough to use with reasonable response (no games, just Office 360, IO
Drive, H Block, and such). I haven't kept up with the VM world but a
quick search shows VMware might be a good choice.


Last I had to run a Windows VM I used kvm (aka Qemu) and that worked
very nicely.  It's easy to install (it's in the Debian repositories),
very featureful, and used for "real systems" (tho in my case I always
used it very punctually to run some specific tool only available in
Windows).


Yep; same. Ran multiple windows vms in kvm (libvirt/qemu). Stable and solid.

Re: Windows on VMware on Deb 11: safely usable?

[Tom Browder]

On Wed, Aug 17, 2022 at 11:32 AM hdv@gmail  wrote:
>
> On 2022-08-17 17:06, Tom Browder wrote:
> > On Wed, Aug 17, 2022 at 09:34 hdv@gmail  > <mailto:hdv.ja...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> > On 2022-08-17 12:53, Tom Browder wrote:
> >
> > …
> >
> >  > I would love to run Windows on a VM on Debian iff I can have it be
> >  > reliable enough to use with reasonable response (no games, just
> > Office
> >  > 360, IO Drive, H Block, and such). I
> >
> > …
> >
> > As for VMWare: when I still used it, a major disadvantage was that you
> > had to fuss around with the kernel every time there was an update. That
> > really was a major PITA. I don't know if that still is the case with
> > VMWare, but I do know I have no such trouble with libvirt. At all.
> >
> >
> > So far, at least with Debian, I’m leaning toward libvrt.
> >
> > For us vm green beans, can I run the libvrt Windows vm, on Debian, and
> > get the regular Win desktop view I’m used to? Should I dedicate a
> > separate physical SSD for it?
>
> You can run libvirt on any Debian version you want. Then install Windows
> in that host. It will work just as you are used to. I have 2TB set aside
> as a dedicated partition for 3 instances of Windows (different
> installations for my students to develop and hack on). I also use WinSCP
> to transfer files between the host and the different guests. That proved
> to be the easiest and most dependable manner to exchange files.
>
> P.S. Please keep it on the list. That way others can benefit from your
> questions too.
>
> Grx HdV

I'm sorry, failure to reply to the list was an accident.

Re: Windows on VMware on Deb 11: safely usable?

[Chuck Zmudzinski]

On 8/17/2022 10:34 AM, hdv@gmail wrote:
> On 2022-08-17 12:53, Tom Browder wrote:
> > Unfortunately, I have to have a Windows host. I have given up dual 
> > hosting because of the pain, so I am using a dedicated Win 10 box and a 
> > Deb laptop.
> > 
> > I would love to run Windows on a VM on Debian iff I can have it be 
> > reliable enough to use with reasonable response (no games, just Office 
> > 360, IO Drive, H Block, and such). I haven't kept up with the VM world 
> > but a quick search shows VMware might be a good choice.
> > 
> > Anyone using such a rig for the real world (i.e., not testing or as a 
> > hobby)? If it is reliable, I plan to get a hefty SilentPC to run my 
> > primary digital duopoly.
> > 
> > Thanks.
> > 
> > -Tom
>
> Please note that VirtualBox isn't in the official repository. There is a 
> reason for that: Oracle won't/can't cooperate with the Debian Security Team.
>
> As for VMWare: when I still used it, a major disadvantage was that you 
> had to fuss around with the kernel every time there was an update. That 
> really was a major PITA. I don't know if that still is the case with 
> VMWare, but I do know I have no such trouble with libvirt. At all.

I don't see much discussion about libvirt on debian-use, which I presume is
KVM/Qemu VMs. That means one of two things: either 1) no one is using it, or
2) it works so well it is good enough for the real world and no one needs to ask
questions about it on debian-user.

My advice - buy your Silent PC, Install Debian on it, and use KVM/Qemu on it
to install Windows. That will use supported Debian free software to provide the
virtualization environment for your Windows installation. If for some reason
KVM/Qemu/libvirt does not work, then install Windows Pro on the Silent PC
and run Debian in Hyper-V. AFAIK, MS fully supports Debian in Hyper-V, and that
would also most likely be a reliable setup also for the real world to run 
Debian 11
and Windows 10/11 simultaneously.

Chuck

Re: Windows on VMware on Deb 11: safely usable?

[hdv@gmail]

On 2022-08-17 12:53, Tom Browder wrote:
Unfortunately, I have to have a Windows host. I have given up dual 
hosting because of the pain, so I am using a dedicated Win 10 box and a 
Deb laptop.


I would love to run Windows on a VM on Debian iff I can have it be 
reliable enough to use with reasonable response (no games, just Office 
360, IO Drive, H Block, and such). I haven't kept up with the VM world 
but a quick search shows VMware might be a good choice.


Anyone using such a rig for the real world (i.e., not testing or as a 
hobby)? If it is reliable, I plan to get a hefty SilentPC to run my 
primary digital duopoly.


Thanks.

-Tom


Please note that VirtualBox isn't in the official repository. There is a 
reason for that: Oracle won't/can't cooperate with the Debian Security Team.


As for VMWare: when I still used it, a major disadvantage was that you 
had to fuss around with the kernel every time there was an update. That 
really was a major PITA. I don't know if that still is the case with 
VMWare, but I do know I have no such trouble with libvirt. At all.


Grx HdV

Re: Windows on VMware on Deb 11: safely usable?

[Chuck Zmudzinski]

On 8/17/2022 6:53 AM, Tom Browder wrote:
> Unfortunately, I have to have a Windows host. I have given up dual hosting 
> because of the pain, so I am using a dedicated Win 10 box and a Deb laptop.
>
> I would love to run Windows on a VM on Debian iff I can have it be reliable 
> enough to use with reasonable response (no games, just Office 360, IO Drive, 
> H Block, and such). I haven't kept up with the VM world but a quick search 
> shows VMware might be a good choice.
>
> Anyone using such a rig for the real world (i.e., not testing or as a hobby)? 
> If it is reliable, I plan to get a hefty SilentPC to run my primary digital 
> duopoly.
>
> Thanks.
>
> -Tom

I have this working now with Xen/Qemu, Deb 11, and Windows 10, but I would not 
recommend
that for the real world, since sometimes updates and such break it. I don't 
know about VMware
on Debian, I suppose it might work, you can inquire with VMware to see how much 
support they
provide for VMware on Debian. Also, KVM/Qemu users might be able to weigh in 
with how
viable that is as an option to run Windows in a VM on Debian for the real word. 
And the
other option I know about is Virtualbox, which I also think can run on Debian 
and supports
Windows VMs.

Best regards,

Chuck

Re: Windows on VMware on Deb 11: safely usable?

[Timothy M Butterworth]

On Wed, Aug 17, 2022 at 6:53 AM Tom Browder  wrote:

> Unfortunately, I have to have a Windows host. I have given up dual hosting
> because of the pain, so I am using a dedicated Win 10 box and a Deb laptop.
>
> I would love to run Windows on a VM on Debian iff I can have it be
> reliable enough to use with reasonable response (no games, just Office 360,
> IO Drive, H Block, and such). I haven't kept up with the VM world but a
> quick search shows VMware might be a good choice.
>
> Anyone using such a rig for the real world (i.e., not testing or as a
> hobby)? If it is reliable, I plan to get a hefty SilentPC to run my primary
> digital duopoly.
>
> I have a Windows VM installed in VirtualBox. It works well with guest
extensions.  I have no complaints.


> Thanks.
>
> -Tom
>


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Re: Windows on VMware on Deb 11: safely usable?

[Tom Browder]

On Wed, Aug 17, 2022 at 06:01 Marco  wrote:

> Am 17. Aug 2022, um 05:53:05 Uhr schrieb Tom Browder:
>
> > I would love to run Windows on a VM on Debian iff I can have it be
> > reliable enough to use with reasonable response (no games, just
> > Office 360, IO Drive, H Block, and such). I haven't kept up with
> > the VM world but a quick search shows VMware might be a good choice.
>
> I have used Windows VMs for years. It is reliable.


And which VM are you using?

-Tom

Re: Windows on VMware on Deb 11: safely usable?

[hdv@gmail]

On 2022-08-17 12:53, Tom Browder wrote:
Unfortunately, I have to have a Windows host. I have given up dual 
hosting because of the pain, so I am using a dedicated Win 10 box and a 
Deb laptop.


I would love to run Windows on a VM on Debian iff I can have it be 
reliable enough to use with reasonable response (no games, just Office 
360, IO Drive, H Block, and such). I haven't kept up with the VM world 
but a quick search shows VMware might be a good choice.


Anyone using such a rig for the real world (i.e., not testing or as a 
hobby)? If it is reliable, I plan to get a hefty SilentPC to run my 
primary digital duopoly.


Thanks.

-Tom


I used to run Windows in a commercially licensed VMWare environment for 
my business. I also have used VirtualBox for years for the same purpose. 
However, a couple of years back I switched to libvirt and never had any 
problems with it (that weren't of my own doing).


It *does* take a bit more time to really understand all the features, 
but it is worth your time. There is good documentation available, but I 
had to read some of it multiple times to get my head around it. Not 
because the docs were bad, but it is complex and written for people that 
already do have some experience in that area (I feel). There is a 
separate GUI, if you think that suits your needs (with the imaginative 
name Virtual Machine Manager).


I run a fully patched Windows 10 Pro in libvirt at the moment on a 
machine with 32 cores and 64 GB of RAM and it is speedy and stable 
enough for my needs (hosting a learning environment for my students).


I'd say: give it a go!

Grx HdV

Re: Windows on VMware on Deb 11: safely usable?

[Jeremy Ardley]

I have Windows client on Debian and Windows Hosts using Virtualbox. I 
don't think there is much difference to VMWare for simple client hosting.


When the client is fully 'settled in' performance is perfectly adequate. 
Where it runs into problems is saving state and restoring. That is 
pretty fast, but if you save state and restore a few days later the 
client performance is abysmal for some time as the client goes through 
lots of housekeeping, scanning etc to get up to date. I generally 
restore it and go off and do something else for 30 minutes.


As an aside, a Windows host for a client sucks big time. Windows will 
automatically restart periodically no matter what you do to prevent it. 
When it does it's likely to smash the client and lose whatever you were 
doing.


On 17/8/22 6:53 pm, Tom Browder wrote:

Unfortunately, I have to have a Windows host. I have given up dual 
hosting because of the pain, so I am using a dedicated Win 10 box and 
a Deb laptop.


I would love to run Windows on a VM on Debian iff I can have it be 
reliable enough to use with reasonable response (no games, just Office 
360, IO Drive, H Block, and such). I haven't kept up with the VM 
world but a quick search shows VMware might be a good choice.


Anyone using such a rig for the real world (i.e., not testing or as a 
hobby)? If it is reliable, I plan to get a hefty SilentPC to run my 
primary digital duopoly.


Thanks.

-Tom

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Re: Windows on VMware on Deb 11: safely usable?

[Marco]

Am 17. Aug 2022, um 05:53:05 Uhr schrieb Tom Browder:

> I would love to run Windows on a VM on Debian iff I can have it be
> reliable enough to use with reasonable response (no games, just
> Office 360, IO Drive, H Block, and such). I haven't kept up with
> the VM world but a quick search shows VMware might be a good choice.

I have used Windows VMs for years. It is reliable.

Windows on VMware on Deb 11: safely usable?

[Tom Browder]

Unfortunately, I have to have a Windows host. I have given up dual hosting
because of the pain, so I am using a dedicated Win 10 box and a Deb laptop.

I would love to run Windows on a VM on Debian iff I can have it be reliable
enough to use with reasonable response (no games, just Office 360, IO
Drive, H Block, and such). I haven't kept up with the VM world but a
quick search shows VMware might be a good choice.

Anyone using such a rig for the real world (i.e., not testing or as a
hobby)? If it is reliable, I plan to get a hefty SilentPC to run my primary
digital duopoly.

Thanks.

-Tom

Re: VMWare Horizon Client has glitchy graphics after update to Bullseye

[Luiz Romário Santana Rios]

Thanks for the answer, Kent. Sorry for the delay, but I have an update 
on this.


> 1) Try a different Desktop Environment (e.g xfce4 instead of Gnome, etc)

I tried it with LXQt+xfwm4, but the issue remained. I also tried 
updating to the backports 5.16 kernel, but the problem still persists.


The one thing that seems to completely fix the issue is running Plasma 
on Wayland. However, Plasma is far from being wayland-ready, especially 
given how old Debian's version is, so that's not a viable solution (for 
now).

Re: VMWare Horizon Client has glitchy graphics after update to Bullseye

[Kent West]

On Thu, Nov 11, 2021 at 2:33 PM Luiz Romário Santana Rios <
luizroma...@tecgraf.puc-rio.br> wrote:

> Hello again,
>
> The problem still remains after all these months.
>
> My current solution is to access a remote CentOS 7 machine through VNC
> and use Horizon Client from there.
>
> Any idea why this might be happening?
>
>
I don't know the history of your issue, but the first two thoughts that
come to my mind:

1) Try a different Desktop Environment (e.g xfce4 instead of Gnome, etc)

2) Try the HTML interface (assuming it's available) instead of the client

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Re: VMWare Horizon Client has glitchy graphics after update to Bullseye

[Luiz Romário Santana Rios]

Hello again,

The problem still remains after all these months.

My current solution is to access a remote CentOS 7 machine through VNC 
and use Horizon Client from there.


Any idea why this might be happening?

VMWare Horizon Client has glitchy graphics after update to Bullseye

[Luiz Romário Santana Rios]

I am not entirely sure there's an actual correlation here, but after I
updated to Bullseye, my installation of VMWare Horizon Client started
glitching out. I updated in the weekend and it was working fine on
Friday, but not yesterday.

I'm not sure how to describe it exactly, but the images appear
corrupted. In bigger windows, half of the window appears fine, but the
other half appears like a blocky, greyish glitch. Smaller windows
appear completely black (probably due to some y offset caused by the
glitch, which also happens in bigger windows).

Did anything regarding the graphics change between Buster and
Bullseye? Did anyone else experience something similar with other
applications?

Thank you.

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Re: Aumentar filesystem com VMware

[Lucas Castro]

Christiano,

após aumentar seu disco, você deve aumentar o seu PV, neste caso os sda1,

ou então criar outra partição.


se escolher por criar outra partição:

    deve adicioná-la ao VG, vgextend vg_name pv

 suponha que tenha criado um partição sda5 e seu VG name é Buster,

       vgextend Buster /dev/sda5, depois disso será disponibilizado 
para o seu grupo lógico.


        então só extender o lv do grupo que precisar.

        lvextend -L+40G /dev/mapper/Buster-root, por exempo.

        depois aumentar o sistema de arquivo.

        resize2fs /dev/mapper/Buster-root.


On 4/24/20 3:03 PM, Christiano Liberato wrote:

Pessoal,

tenho que AUMENTAR um filesystem no debian 10, com LVM, mas não estou 
conseguindo.

No VMware, aumentei o disco de 10 para 50GB.
No debian fiz um rescan e, com o fdisk -l, mostra que o /dev/sda foi 
pra 50GB.

Com o fdisk /dev/sda tento criar o sda3 mas ele só fica com 1023K, vejam.

==
root@vmteste:~# fdisk /dev/sda

Welcome to fdisk (util-linux 2.33.1).
Changes will remain in memory only, until you decide to write them.
Be careful before using the write command.


Command (m for help): n
Partition type
   p   primary (1 primary, 1 extended, 2 free)
   l   logical (numbered from 5)
Select (default p):

Using default response p.
Partition number (3,4, default 3):
First sector (499712-104857599, default 499712):
Last sector, +/-sectors or +/-size{K,M,G,T,P} (499712-501757, default 
501757):


Created a new partition 3 of type 'Linux' and of size 1023 KiB.

Command (m for help): t
Partition number (1-3,5, default 5): 3
Hex code (type L to list all codes): 8e

Changed type of partition 'Linux' to 'Linux LVM'.

Command (m for help): w
The partition table has been altered.
Syncing disks.

==

root@vmteste:~# fdisk -l
Disk /dev/sda: 50 GiB, 53687091200 bytes, 104857600 sectors
Disk model: Virtual disk
Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disklabel type: dos
Disk identifier: 0x6e3d2448

Device     Boot  Start      End  Sectors  Size Id Type
/dev/sda1  *      2048   499711   497664  243M 83 Linux
/dev/sda2       501758 20969471 20467714  9,8G  5 Extended
/dev/sda3       499712   501757     2046 1023K 8e Linux LVM
/dev/sda5       501760 20969471 20467712  9,8G 8e Linux LVM

==

 Disk: /dev/sda
 Size: 50 GiB, 53687091200 bytes, 104857600 sectors
     Label: dos, identifier: 0x6e3d2448

    Device                  Boot  Start                   End         
     Sectors  Size            Id Type
>>  /dev/sda1               *      2048                499711         
      497664    243M            83 Linux
    /dev/sda2  501758              20969471             20467714  9,8G 
            5 Extended
    └─/dev/sda5  501760              20969471             20467712 
 9,8G            8e Linux LVM
    /dev/sda3  499712                501757                 2046 1023K 
           8e Linux LVM

    Free space 20969472             104857599             83888128     40G

==

Como disse, desse modo estou tentando AUMENTAR UM DISCO JÁ EXISTENTE.
Quando ADICIONO outro disco e atacho ele no LVM, consigo aumentar.
Alguém sabe como faz?

Obrigado!


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Re: Aumentar filesystem com VMware

[Leandro Guimarães Faria Corcete DUTRA]

24 avr 2020 16:28 −3, Christiano Liberato a écrit :
> Using default response p.
> Partition number (3,4, default 3): 6
> Value out of range.

Posso estar enganado, ando enferrujado, mas não bastaria criar uma
partição lógica?  A MBR tem esse limite de partições primárias.
Talvez não houvesse na GPT.


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Re: Aumentar filesystem com VMware

[Christiano Liberato]

Não permite.

root@vmteste:~# fdisk /dev/sda

Welcome to fdisk (util-linux 2.33.1).
Changes will remain in memory only, until you decide to write them.
Be careful before using the write command.


Command (m for help): n
Partition type
   p   primary (1 primary, 1 extended, 2 free)
   l   logical (numbered from 5)
Select (default p):

Using default response p.
Partition number (3,4, default 3): 6
Value out of range.
Partition number (3,4, default 3):

Em sex., 24 de abr. de 2020 às 16:24, Leandro Guimarães Faria Corcete DUTRA
 escreveu:

> 24 avr 2020 15:33 −3, Christiano Liberato:
> > Não sei se será possível aumentar o volume dessa maneira.
>
> Não bastaria criar depois do sda5?  O número não tem nada a ver com a
> posição.
>
>
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Re: Aumentar filesystem com VMware

[Leandro Guimarães Faria Corcete DUTRA]

24 avr 2020 15:33 −3, Christiano Liberato:
> Não sei se será possível aumentar o volume dessa maneira.

Não bastaria criar depois do sda5?  O número não tem nada a ver com a
posição.


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Re: Aumentar filesystem com VMware

[Christiano Liberato]

Isso mesmo Leandro.
Não sei se será possível aumentar o volume dessa maneira.
Já pesquisei bastante e nada...

Em sex., 24 de abr. de 2020 às 15:30, Leandro Guimarães Faria Corcete DUTRA
 escreveu:

> Le vendredi 24 avril 2020 à 15:03 -0300, Christiano Liberato a écrit :
> > /dev/sda3   499712   501757 2046 1023K 8e Linux LVM
> > /dev/sda5   501760 20969471 20467712  9,8G 8e Linux LVM
>
> Se entendi direito, a questão é que o sda3 está no intervalo de um
> megaocteto entre sda1 e sda5.
>
>
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Re: Aumentar filesystem com VMware

[Leandro Guimarães Faria Corcete DUTRA]

Le vendredi 24 avril 2020 à 15:03 -0300, Christiano Liberato a écrit :
> /dev/sda3   499712   501757 2046 1023K 8e Linux LVM
> /dev/sda5   501760 20969471 20467712  9,8G 8e Linux LVM

Se entendi direito, a questão é que o sda3 está no intervalo de um
megaocteto entre sda1 e sda5.


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Aumentar filesystem com VMware

[Christiano Liberato]

Pessoal,

tenho que AUMENTAR um filesystem no debian 10, com LVM, mas não estou
conseguindo.
No VMware, aumentei o disco de 10 para 50GB.
No debian fiz um rescan e, com o fdisk -l, mostra que o /dev/sda foi pra
50GB.
Com o fdisk /dev/sda tento criar o sda3 mas ele só fica com 1023K, vejam.

==
root@vmteste:~# fdisk /dev/sda

Welcome to fdisk (util-linux 2.33.1).
Changes will remain in memory only, until you decide to write them.
Be careful before using the write command.


Command (m for help): n
Partition type
   p   primary (1 primary, 1 extended, 2 free)
   l   logical (numbered from 5)
Select (default p):

Using default response p.
Partition number (3,4, default 3):
First sector (499712-104857599, default 499712):
Last sector, +/-sectors or +/-size{K,M,G,T,P} (499712-501757, default
501757):

Created a new partition 3 of type 'Linux' and of size 1023 KiB.

Command (m for help): t
Partition number (1-3,5, default 5): 3
Hex code (type L to list all codes): 8e

Changed type of partition 'Linux' to 'Linux LVM'.

Command (m for help): w
The partition table has been altered.
Syncing disks.

==

root@vmteste:~# fdisk -l
Disk /dev/sda: 50 GiB, 53687091200 bytes, 104857600 sectors
Disk model: Virtual disk
Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disklabel type: dos
Disk identifier: 0x6e3d2448

Device Boot  Start  End  Sectors  Size Id Type
/dev/sda1  *  2048   499711   497664  243M 83 Linux
/dev/sda2   501758 20969471 20467714  9,8G  5 Extended
/dev/sda3   499712   501757 2046 1023K 8e Linux LVM
/dev/sda5   501760 20969471 20467712  9,8G 8e Linux LVM

==

 Disk: /dev/sda
   Size: 50 GiB,
53687091200 bytes, 104857600 sectors
   Label:
dos, identifier: 0x6e3d2448

Device  BootStart
End  Sectors  SizeId Type
>>  /dev/sda1   *2048
 499711   497664  243M83 Linux
/dev/sda2  501758
   20969471 20467714  9,8G 5 Extended
└─/dev/sda5501760
   20969471 20467712  9,8G8e Linux LVM
/dev/sda3  499712
 501757 2046 1023K8e Linux LVM
Free space   20969472
  104857599 83888128   40G

==

Como disse, desse modo estou tentando AUMENTAR UM DISCO JÁ EXISTENTE.
Quando ADICIONO outro disco e atacho ele no LVM, consigo aumentar.
Alguém sabe como faz?

Obrigado!

Re: Re: Re: Re: Missing Audio Driver in Debian 10 Vmware

[John Berden]

I'm glad it helped. Any idea which commands helped?


amixer -c 0 set Master 100%

amixer -c 0 set PCM 100%

Re: Re: Re: Missing Audio Driver in Debian 10 Vmware

[Dan Ritter]

John Berden wrote: 
> Listen! That helped! Unbelievable!
> Thanks a lot!
> And why is there no default volume? This is stupid!

I'm glad it helped. Any idea which commands helped?

When a virtual machine initializes its "hardware", it doesn't
always do it the way that a real machine would. Having a default
volume of 0 might be silly, but pretty much any setting would 
annoy someone. I expect you have done the "where is this beep
coming from?" dance yourself.

-dsr-

Re: Re: Re: Missing Audio Driver in Debian 10 Vmware

[John Berden]

Listen! That helped! Unbelievable!
Thanks a lot!
And why is there no default volume? This is stupid!

Re: Re: Missing Audio Driver in Debian 10 Vmware

[Dan Ritter]

Constantine Ryzhikov wrote: 
> I'm blind, without Orca it???s hard for me to read the output. I made a
> screen, but there is no audio, or is it on top.
> 
> https://i.paste.pics/2502b2f2c2644bb7e19dbc9d7e2e7a8a.png

I apologize for my assumption.

The lspci snipped you showed did have snd_ens1371 enabled,
so it is plausible that this is just a mixer problem.

alsa and pulse both have command-line tools to adjust mixing.

For alsa, try:

amixer scontrols

to get the available controls.

Some combination of the following might work:

amixer -c 0 set Master 100%
amixer -c 0 set PCM 100%
amixer -c 0 set Headphone 100%
amixer -c 0 set Beep 0%


As painful as alsa's tools are, pulseaudio's tools are worse.

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/PulseAudio/Examples

pactl list cards
pactl set-sink-volume 0 100%

might work.

-dsr-

Re: Re: Missing Audio Driver in Debian 10 Vmware

[Constantine Ryzhikov]

Installed it already. Does not help.

Re: Re: Missing Audio Driver in Debian 10 Vmware

[Constantine Ryzhikov]

Installed it already. doesn't help.

Re: Re: Missing Audio Driver in Debian 10 Vmware

[John Berden]

I'm blind, without Orca it’s hard for me to read the output. I made a 
screen, but there is no audio, or is it on top.


https://i.paste.pics/2502b2f2c2644bb7e19dbc9d7e2e7a8a.png

Re: Re: Missing Audio Driver in Debian 10 Vmware

[Constantine Ryzhikov]

I'm blind, without Orca it’s hard for me to read the output. I made a 
screen, but there is no audio, or is it on top.


https://i.paste.pics/2502b2f2c2644bb7e19dbc9d7e2e7a8a.png

Re: Re: Missing Audio Driver in Debian 10 Vmware

[John Berden]

I'm blind, without Orca it’s hard for me to read the output. I made a 
screen, but there is no audio, or is it on top.


https://i.paste.pics/2502b2f2c2644bb7e19dbc9d7e2e7a8a.png

Re: Missing Audio Driver in Debian 10 Vmware

[deloptes]

John Berden wrote:

> Hello.
> I installed Debian 10 on Vmware 15.
> And I don't have an audio driver!
> I hear system beeps only.
> How can i fix this?
> Thanks in advance!

First it needs to be enabled in the VM configuration and second I think you
need to install extention (in the debian VM). I lost track where this was
to be downloaded. On windows I recall it was downloaded and shows up as
CD-disk and installs the VM Tools. I think you have to look for the VM
Tools if available.

Re: Missing Audio Driver in Debian 10 Vmware

[Dan Ritter]

John Berden wrote: 
> Hello.
> I installed Debian 10 on Vmware 15.
> And I don't have an audio driver!
> I hear system beeps only.
> How can i fix this?

It's pretty likely that Debian would use your virtualized audio
hardware if it was available, so it's probably VMWare's fault.

Does lspci -vv  show you any audio hardware?

If not, it's definitely VMWare's fault. Complain to them.

If it does show you audio hardware, let us know what it is.

-dsr-

Missing Audio Driver in Debian 10 Vmware

[John Berden]

Hello.
I installed Debian 10 on Vmware 15.
And I don't have an audio driver!
I hear system beeps only.
How can i fix this?
Thanks in advance!

Re: services en panne suite a uprade stretch sur un VPS VMWARE

[tmp]

Bonjour,

J'ai essayé les options de débogage de rsyslogd

vm293 ~ > /usr/sbin/rsyslogd -v
rsyslogd 8.24.0, compiled with:
PLATFORM:   x86_64-pc-linux-gnu
PLATFORM (lsb_release -d):
FEATURE_REGEXP: Yes
GSSAPI Kerberos 5 support:  Yes
FEATURE_DEBUG (debug build, slow code): No
32bit Atomic operations supported:  Yes
64bit Atomic operations supported:  Yes
memory allocator:   system default
Runtime Instrumentation (slow code):No
uuid support:   Yes
Number of Bits in RainerScript integers: 64

mais après une erreur de commande rsyslogd ne renvoit plus rien:

vm293 ~ > rsyslogd 8.24.0, compiled with:
vm293 ~ > /usr/sbin/rsyslogd -v
vm293 ~ > rsyslogd -dn
vm293 ~ > rsyslogd -N2
vm293 ~ >



Thierry CHEN
Le 16/10/2019 13:00, Daniel Caillibaud a écrit :

Le 16/10/19 à 12h39, tmp  a écrit :

Après un upgrade jessie->stretch sur un VPS VMWARE j'ai 3 services en
panne sont rsyslog. Voici ce que rapporte systemd:
vm293 ~ > systemctl start rsyslog
Job for rsyslog.service failed because the control process exited with
error code.

[…]

Toute suggestion bienvenue

systemctl cat rsyslog.service pour voir la commande qu'il lance

Chez moi c'est
   ExecStart=/usr/sbin/rsyslogd -n -iNONE

Lance là manuellement, en ajoutant des paramètres pour le rendre plus
verbeux si c'est possible, et tu devrais avoir le motif du plantage. Avec
la commande ci dessus ça donnerait (-n et -i virés inutiles dans ce cas,
man rsyslog pour le détail)
   /usr/sbin/rsyslogd -v
voire ajouter -d ou -D

Si tu dois adapter cette commande à ton usage, ne modifie pas les fichiers
de /etc/systemd/ (en général des symlinks vers /lib/systemd), mais ajoute
des surcharges, par ex via un
/etc/systemd/system/rsyslog.service.d/override.conf

(le nom override est arbitraire)

Re: services en panne suite a uprade stretch sur un VPS VMWARE

[Daniel Caillibaud]

Le 16/10/19 à 12h39, tmp  a écrit :
> Après un upgrade jessie->stretch sur un VPS VMWARE j'ai 3 services en 
> panne sont rsyslog. Voici ce que rapporte systemd:

> vm293 ~ > systemctl start rsyslog
> Job for rsyslog.service failed because the control process exited with 
> error code.
[…]
> Toute suggestion bienvenue

systemctl cat rsyslog.service pour voir la commande qu'il lance

Chez moi c'est
  ExecStart=/usr/sbin/rsyslogd -n -iNONE

Lance là manuellement, en ajoutant des paramètres pour le rendre plus
verbeux si c'est possible, et tu devrais avoir le motif du plantage. Avec
la commande ci dessus ça donnerait (-n et -i virés inutiles dans ce cas,
man rsyslog pour le détail)
  /usr/sbin/rsyslogd -v
voire ajouter -d ou -D

Si tu dois adapter cette commande à ton usage, ne modifie pas les fichiers
de /etc/systemd/ (en général des symlinks vers /lib/systemd), mais ajoute
des surcharges, par ex via un
/etc/systemd/system/rsyslog.service.d/override.conf

(le nom override est arbitraire)

-- 
Daniel

Il est difficile de juger de l'intelligence de quelqu'un qui a beaucoup lu,
car la mémoire imite à merveille l'intelligence.
Alain

services en panne suite a uprade stretch sur un VPS VMWARE

[tmp]

Bonjour,
Après un upgrade jessie->stretch sur un VPS VMWARE j'ai 3 services en 
panne sont rsyslog. Voici ce que rapporte systemd:


[code]vm293 ~ > systemctl reset-failed
vm293 ~ > systemctl start rsyslog
Job for rsyslog.service failed because the control process exited with 
error code.

See "systemctl status rsyslog.service" and "journalctl -xe" for details.
vm293 ~ > journalctl -xe
-- L'unité (unit) rsyslog.service a terminé son arrêt.
oct. 16 11:47:42 vm293 systemd[1]: Starting System Logging Service...
-- Subject: L'unité (unit) rsyslog.service a commencé à démarrer
-- Defined-By: systemd
-- Support: https://www.debian.org/support
--
-- L'unité (unit) rsyslog.service a commencé à démarrer.
oct. 16 11:47:42 vm293 systemd[1]: rsyslog.service: Main process exited, 
code=exited, status=1/FAILURE

oct. 16 11:47:42 vm293 systemd[1]: Failed to start System Logging Service.
-- Subject: L'unité (unit) rsyslog.service a échoué
-- Defined-By: systemd
-- Support: https://www.debian.org/support
--
-- L'unité (unit) rsyslog.service a échoué, avec le résultat failed.
oct. 16 11:47:42 vm293 systemd[1]: rsyslog.service: Unit entered failed 
state.
oct. 16 11:47:42 vm293 systemd[1]: rsyslog.service: Failed with result 
'exit-code'.
oct. 16 11:47:42 vm293 systemd[1]: rsyslog.service: Service hold-off 
time over, scheduling restart.

oct. 16 11:47:42 vm293 systemd[1]: Stopped System Logging Service.
-- Subject: L'unité (unit) rsyslog.service a terminé son arrêt
-- Defined-By: systemd
-- Support: https://www.debian.org/support
--
-- L'unité (unit) rsyslog.service a terminé son arrêt.
oct. 16 11:47:42 vm293 systemd[1]: rsyslog.service: Start request 
repeated too quickly.

oct. 16 11:47:42 vm293 systemd[1]: Failed to start System Logging Service.
-- Subject: L'unité (unit) rsyslog.service a échoué
-- Defined-By: systemd
-- Support: https://www.debian.org/support
--
-- L'unité (unit) rsyslog.service a échoué, avec le résultat failed.
oct. 16 11:47:42 vm293 systemd[1]: syslog.socket: Unit entered failed state.
oct. 16 11:47:42 vm293 systemd[1]: rsyslog.service: Unit entered failed 
state.
oct. 16 11:47:42 vm293 systemd[1]: rsyslog.service: Failed with result 
'exit-code'.

[/code]

Toute suggestion bienvenue
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Re: What is the location of the "depmod" program on your machine? vmware tools installation error

[Pascal Hambourg]

Le 06/09/2019 à 21:05, Charles Curley a écrit :


Fresh install:

root@jhegaala:~# ll /sbin/depmod /usr/sbin/depmod
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 Feb  9  2019 /sbin/depmod -> /bin/kmod*
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 Feb  9  2019 /usr/sbin/depmod -> /bin/kmod*

Upgraded:

root@hawk:~# ll /sbin/depmod /usr/sbin/depmod
ls: cannot access '/usr/sbin/depmod': No such file or directory
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 Feb  9  2019 /sbin/depmod -> /bin/kmod*


depmod has been in /sbin for ages. What kind of crazy program would 
expect it to be in /usr/sbin ?



Going back to the OP, it appears he has the option to supply the full
path to depmod; perhaps he should try that.


The OP tried to run the script calling depmod as a standard user. The 
user $PATH missing /sbin caused the error. Anyway depmod itself would 
have failed without root privileges.

Re: What is the location of the "depmod" program on your machine? vmware tools installation error

[Charles Curley]

On Fri, 6 Sep 2019 13:47:19 -0500
David Wright  wrote:

> Bear in mind that depmod itself has been a symlink for quite a while.

And still is. However, if the symlink you're expecting isn't there...

Fresh install:

root@jhegaala:~# ll /sbin/depmod /usr/sbin/depmod
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 Feb  9  2019 /sbin/depmod -> /bin/kmod*
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 Feb  9  2019 /usr/sbin/depmod -> /bin/kmod*
root@jhegaala:~# 

Upgraded:

root@hawk:~# ll /sbin/depmod /usr/sbin/depmod
ls: cannot access '/usr/sbin/depmod': No such file or directory
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 Feb  9  2019 /sbin/depmod -> /bin/kmod*
root@hawk:~# 

Going back to the OP, it appears he has the option to supply the full
path to depmod; perhaps he should try that.



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Re: What is the location of the "depmod" program on your machine? vmware tools installation error

[David Wright]

On Fri 06 Sep 2019 at 10:48:43 (-0600), Charles Curley wrote:
> On Fri, 6 Sep 2019 19:23:53 +0530
> Tapas Mishra  wrote:
> 
> > What is the location of the "depmod" program on your
> > machine? Use of uninitialized value $gOption{"default"} in numeric eq
> > (==) at ./vmware-install.pl line 866,  line 1.
> 
> The answer is, that depends.
> 
> On a Debian 10 (buster) machine that was upgraded from Debian 9
> (stretch), it is at:
> 
> root@hawk:~# which depmod 
> /sbin/depmod
> root@hawk:~# 
> 
> On a freshly installed Debian 10, it is at:
> 
> root@jhegaala:~# which depmod 
> /usr/sbin/depmod
> root@jhegaala:~# 
> 
> 
> According to the package, it should be at:
> 
> root@hawk:~# apt-file search depmod | grep depmod$
> kmod: /sbin/depmod
> root@hawk:~#
> 
> This is due to something called "merged usr", described at
> https://www.debian.org/releases/buster/amd64/release-notes/ch-whats-new.en.html#merged-usr
> Follow the link there for more explanation.
> 
> This has hit the amanda packages, and I filed a bug,
> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=939411 for that
> package. You might do the same for your package.

Bear in mind that depmod itself has been a symlink for quite a while.
Looking at jessie:

$ cat /etc/debian_version
8.11
$ ls -l /sbin/depmod
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 Sep 27  2014 /sbin/depmod -> /bin/kmod
$ ls -l /bin/kmod
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 182036 Sep 27  2014 /bin/kmod
$ 

Cheers,
David.

Re: What is the location of the "depmod" program on your machine? vmware tools installation error

[Charles Curley]

On Fri, 6 Sep 2019 19:23:53 +0530
Tapas Mishra  wrote:

> What is the location of the "depmod" program on your
> machine? Use of uninitialized value $gOption{"default"} in numeric eq
> (==) at ./vmware-install.pl line 866,  line 1.

The answer is, that depends.

On a Debian 10 (buster) machine that was upgraded from Debian 9
(stretch), it is at:

root@hawk:~# which depmod 
/sbin/depmod
root@hawk:~# 

On a freshly installed Debian 10, it is at:

root@jhegaala:~# which depmod 
/usr/sbin/depmod
root@jhegaala:~# 


According to the package, it should be at:

root@hawk:~# apt-file search depmod | grep depmod$
kmod: /sbin/depmod
root@hawk:~#

This is due to something called "merged usr", described at
https://www.debian.org/releases/buster/amd64/release-notes/ch-whats-new.en.html#merged-usr
Follow the link there for more explanation.

This has hit the amanda packages, and I filed a bug,
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=939411 for that
package. You might do the same for your package.

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the word to its mere embellishments, such as arts and sciences; but
the true distinction between it and barbarism is, that the one
presents a state of society under the protection of just and
well-administered law, and the other is left to the chance government
of brute force."
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Re: What is the location of the "depmod" program on your machine? vmware tools installation error

[Tapas Mishra]

Dan Ritter 


> What should I do to proceed from here?
>It's in /sbin/depmod, and you will need to be root to do
anything useful with it.
>sudo ./vmware-install.pl
>might work.

Yes that did worked. Thanks for pointing that out.

Erwan David 

>It seems to me that vmware on recent linux prefers the open-vm-tools
>package.

Yes that is correct I had installed open-vm-tools only before trying
the vmware tools.
But I was not able to copy paste a folder from host OS(Windows 10) to
guest OS (Debian).
So I I wanted to try Vmware-tools but this thing (drag and drop or
copy folder from Windows10 to Debian10
has not worked either in open-vm-tools orVmware-tools install package by vendor)
---
Thanks

On Fri, Sep 6, 2019 at 7:51 PM MAS Jean-Louis  wrote:
>
> Le 06/09/2019 à 15:53, Tapas Mishra a écrit :
>
> > I am trying to install Vmware tools in Debian 10 on Vmware workstation.
> > The place where I am stuck is following messages.
>
> Alternative answer
>
> apt install open-vm-tools
>
> Regards
>
> --
> Jean Louis Mas
>
>

Re: What is the location of the "depmod" program on your machine? vmware tools installation error

[MAS Jean-Louis]

Le 06/09/2019 à 15:53, Tapas Mishra a écrit :

> I am trying to install Vmware tools in Debian 10 on Vmware workstation.
> The place where I am stuck is following messages.

Alternative answer

apt install open-vm-tools

Regards

-- 
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Re: What is the location of the "depmod" program on your machine? vmware tools installation error

[Erwan David]

Le 06/09/2019 à 15:53, Tapas Mishra a écrit :
> Hi,
> I am trying to install Vmware tools in Debian 10 on Vmware workstation.
> The place where I am stuck is following messages.
>
>
It seems to me that vmware on recent linux prefers the open-vm-tools
package.

Re: What is the location of the "depmod" program on your machine? vmware tools installation error

[Dan Ritter]

Tapas Mishra wrote: 
> Hi,
> I am trying to install Vmware tools in Debian 10 on Vmware workstation.
> The place where I am stuck is following messages.
> 
> 
> debian:~/vmware_tools/vmware-tools-distrib$ ls
> bin  caf  doc  etc  FILES  INSTALL  installer  lib  vgauth  vmware-install.pl
> debian@debian:~/vmware_tools/vmware-tools-distrib$ ./vmware-install.pl
> Setup is unable to find the "depmod" program on your machine. Please make sure
> it is installed. Do you want to specify the location of this program by hand?
> [yes] Use of uninitialized value $gOption{"default"} in numeric eq
> (==) at ./vmware-install.pl line 866.
> 
> 
> 
> What is the location of the "depmod" program on your
> machine? Use of uninitialized value $gOption{"default"} in numeric eq
> (==) at ./vmware-install.pl line 866,  line 1.
> 
> I pressed enter here thinking it might take default value but I was wrong 
> here.
> 
> The answer "" is invalid. It must be the complete name of a binary file.
> 
> Use of uninitialized value $gOption{"default"} in numeric eq (==) at
> ./vmware-install.pl line 2541,  line 2.
> What is the location of the "depmod" program on your
> machine? Use of uninitialized value $gOption{"default"} in numeric eq
> (==) at ./vmware-install.pl line 866,  line 2.
> ----
> 
> What should I do to proceed from here?

It's in /sbin/depmod, and you will need to be root to do
anything useful with it.

sudo ./vmware-install.pl

might work.

-dsr-

What is the location of the "depmod" program on your machine? vmware tools installation error

[Tapas Mishra]

Hi,
I am trying to install Vmware tools in Debian 10 on Vmware workstation.
The place where I am stuck is following messages.


debian:~/vmware_tools/vmware-tools-distrib$ ls
bin  caf  doc  etc  FILES  INSTALL  installer  lib  vgauth  vmware-install.pl
debian@debian:~/vmware_tools/vmware-tools-distrib$ ./vmware-install.pl
Setup is unable to find the "depmod" program on your machine. Please make sure
it is installed. Do you want to specify the location of this program by hand?
[yes] Use of uninitialized value $gOption{"default"} in numeric eq
(==) at ./vmware-install.pl line 866.



What is the location of the "depmod" program on your
machine? Use of uninitialized value $gOption{"default"} in numeric eq
(==) at ./vmware-install.pl line 866,  line 1.

I pressed enter here thinking it might take default value but I was wrong here.

The answer "" is invalid. It must be the complete name of a binary file.

Use of uninitialized value $gOption{"default"} in numeric eq (==) at
./vmware-install.pl line 2541,  line 2.
What is the location of the "depmod" program on your
machine? Use of uninitialized value $gOption{"default"} in numeric eq
(==) at ./vmware-install.pl line 866,  line 2.


What should I do to proceed from here?
--
Thanks

Re: P2V Debian 9 with VMware Converter

[Calabaza]

El vie., 15 feb. 2019 a las 13:48, Adam Weremczuk
() escribió:
>
> I've investigated a bit more and it actually has something to with EFI
> rather than Debian version.

I think the same, take a look a this wiki:

[0] 
https://wiki.debian.org/UEFI#Force_grub-efi_installation_to_the_removable_media_path



> This Debian 9 clones fine:
>
> Model: IBM ServeRAID M5014 (scsi)
> Disk /dev/sda: 998GB
> Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/512B
> Partition Table: gpt
> Disk Flags:
>
> Number  Start   End SizeFile system  Name  Flags
>   1  1049kB  2097kB  1049kB bios_grub
>   2  2097kB  271MB   268MB   fat32  boot, esp
>   3  271MB   998GB   998GB  lvm
>
>
> And this one gives the error:
>
> Model: DELL PERC H730P Mini (scsi)
> Disk /dev/sda: 4197GB
> Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/512B
> Partition Table: gpt
> Disk Flags:
>
> Number  Start   End SizeFile system  Name  Flags
>   1  1049kB  511MB   510MB   fat16uefi  boot, esp
>   2  511MB   767MB   256MB   ext3 boot
>   3  767MB   4197GB  4196GB   lvm   lvm


After reading part of the wiki [0] I suggest You: to compare if the uefi files
are in the correct places on both system.


> All my existing VMs across all ESXi hosts are configured with BIOS boot.

I think you need a time to shutdown your server and clone it
with dd and a livecd and then add a VM with this raw image
and work with the booting stuffs: maybe reinstall the uefi things or
change it to BIOS boot.


p.s.: Please don't top posting.

-- 
Guillermo Galeano Fernández

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Re: P2V Debian 9 with VMware Converter

[Adam Weremczuk]

I've investigated a bit more and it actually has something to with EFI 
rather than Debian version.



This Debian 9 clones fine:

Model: IBM ServeRAID M5014 (scsi)
Disk /dev/sda: 998GB
Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/512B
Partition Table: gpt
Disk Flags:

Number  Start   End Size    File system  Name  Flags
 1  1049kB  2097kB  1049kB bios_grub
 2  2097kB  271MB   268MB   fat32  boot, esp
 3  271MB   998GB   998GB  lvm


And this one gives the error:

Model: DELL PERC H730P Mini (scsi)
Disk /dev/sda: 4197GB
Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/512B
Partition Table: gpt
Disk Flags:

Number  Start   End Size    File system  Name  Flags
 1  1049kB  511MB   510MB   fat16    uefi  boot, esp
 2  511MB   767MB   256MB   ext3 boot
 3  767MB   4197GB  4196GB   lvm   lvm


All my existing VMs across all ESXi hosts are configured with BIOS boot.

Re: P2V Debian 9 with VMware Converter

[Adam Weremczuk]

Hi Calbaza,

I'm not surprised it works for Debian 8 (released in 2015) as the tool 
officially supports Ubuntu 16 (released in 2016).


It also works like a charm for Debian 7 (2013) but not Debian 9 (2017).

All my VMs run as version 11 too.

It fails with the same error when tried against 3 different ESXi hosts 
(6.0, 6.0 and 6.7) running on 2010, 2015 and 2017 server hardware 
respectively.


I think the errors are misleading and it should start working in one of 
the next releases on VMware vCenter Converter Standalone.


I'm now giving Veeam a shot on this (which also doesn't require source 
machine to be shut down).


If it fails I will resort to old school manual VM creation and data copying.

Thanks,
Adam


On 15/02/19 15:38, Calabaza wrote:


I convert about 17 Debian machines with Debian 8 with little or no problem.
(I understand that you need Debian 9 but that is my experience).

I'm think your problem is about the virtual hardware versión of
destination in your ESX.

I have all my machines with Virtual Hardware version: 11

Read this links, may be help you:

[0] What other requirements and considerations are there for virtual
machines with EFI firmware?
[0] https://communities.vmware.com/docs/DOC-28494
[1] https://communities.vmware.com/thread/519642

Here [2] say that

"(...) EFI firmware is supported from hardware version 11 and above. (...)"

[2] https://communities.vmware.com/thread/584625
[3] 
https://akmyint.wordpress.com/2012/09/30/my-p2v-notes-stand-alone-servers-or-non-clustered/

I'm a Spanish speaker, sorry for my bad English.

Guillermo -> Re: P2V Debian 9 with VMware Converter

[deb]

On 2/15/2019 10:38 AM, Calabaza wrote:

I'm a Spanish speaker, sorry for my bad English.

-- Guillermo Galeano Fernández



Your English (and help) are excellent Guillermo.

I'm sure that the majority of others could not help in Spanish, were the 
situations reversed.


Thank you!