Re: woody: xterm clients (mc, lynx) do not use the xtrem* from Xresources?
I was not explaining myself well. Allow me to try once more: I have a 14 screen. When I am using Debian's menu system and issue XShells-Xterm I am getting an xterm whose width is roughly the width of my screen. I believe that this is due to my use of xterm*Font: 10x20 in my `/.Xresources, which forces the xterm window to be of a certain width. Until recently, when I used, for example, Apps-System-Top to see the processes on the machine I was getting a window which had the size of the above xterm. But starting from Yesterday this is not the case. Now top (or other text apps) window is much smaller then my xterms. My guess is that for some reason the xterm*Font is not used anymore by these apps. How can I fix it so that these xterm clients will be opened in a window which has the size of my xterms? My window manager is fvwm. In case you are not familiar with Debian's menu system, it enables one to run /usr/bin/top with a few mouse clicks, without the need to open an xterm. That is, it automatically opens the xterm and then run top in it. On Wed, 9 Aug 2000, Shaul Karl wrote: Contrary to what I was used to, it seems that the xterm clients like mc, lynx and Gnuplot do not any more use the xterm resources. Therefore I am getting a smaller window for them. mc lynx et al. don't use any X resources. They send text, and the terminal emulation is responsible for setting the fonts etc. What happens if you run: xterm -fn 10x20 Is there such a font on the system (xlsfonts -fn 10x20)? Also - are X resources case sensitive? Maybe you should use XTerm*... ? What should I change in order to fix it? I am running unstable. [14:23:32 /tmp]$ cat ~/.Xresources ! ~/.Xresources AcroRead*geometry:788x582 AcroRead*usesFrontEndProgram: false Clock*customization: -color lyx*height: 573 lyx*width:793 tkinfo.geometry: 109x38 xterm*Font: 10x20 xterm*ScrollBar:true xterm*colorMode:true xterm*customization:-color [18:14:13 /tmp]$ -- Tzafrir Cohen mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.technion.ac.il/~tzafrir -- -- Shaul Karl [EMAIL PROTECTED] Donate free food to the world's hungry: see http://www.thehungersite.com
Re: woody: xterm clients (mc, lynx) do not use the xtrem* from Xresources?
On Thu, Aug 10, 2000 at 07:49:50AM +0300, Shaul Karl wrote: I was not explaining myself well. Allow me to try once more: I have a 14 screen. When I am using Debian's menu system and issue XShells-Xterm I am getting an xterm whose width is roughly the width of my screen. I believe that this is due to my use of xterm*Font: 10x20 in my `/.Xresources, which forces the xterm window to be of a certain width. Until recently, when I used, for example, Apps-System-Top to see the processes on the machine I was getting a window which had the size of the above xterm. But starting from Yesterday this is not the case. Now top (or other text apps) window is much smaller then my xterms. My guess is that for some reason the xterm*Font is not used anymore by these apps. How can I fix it so that these xterm clients will be opened in a window which has the size of my xterms? My window manager is fvwm. Are you positive it's being run with xterm and not some other x-terminal-emulator (kvt, rxvt, gnome-terminal, etc...)? There are some subtle differences between xterm*font, Xterm*font, xterm*Font and Xterm*Font. In an xterm, Ctrl-Right Click should allow you to change the font size on the fly as well (if it doesn't give you a menu -- maybe it's not an xterm...). -- MegaHAL quote: I think a blowpipe is a marijuana cigarrette. It'll get you deleted!
Re: woody: xterm clients (mc, lynx) do not use the xtrem* from Xresources?
On Thu, Aug 10, 2000 at 07:49:50AM +0300, Shaul Karl wrote: I was not explaining myself well. Allow me to try once more: I have a 14 screen. When I am using Debian's menu system and issue XShells-Xterm I am getting an xterm whose width is roughly the width of my screen. I believe that this is due to my use of xterm*Font: 10x20 in my `/.Xresources, which forces the xterm window to be of a certain width. Until recently, when I used, for example, Apps-System-Top to see the processes on the machine I was getting a window which had the size of the above xterm. But starting from Yesterday this is not the case. Now top (or other text apps) window is much smaller then my xterms. My guess is that for some reason the xterm*Font is not used anymore by these apps. How can I fix it so that these xterm clients will be opened in a window which has the size of my xterms? My window manager is fvwm. In case you are not familiar with Debian's menu system, it enables one to run /usr/bin/top with a few mouse clicks, without the need to open an xterm. That is, it automatically opens the xterm and then run top in it. Okay, you can set resources by two main things: the 'Name' and the 'Class'. The name of an xterm is usually, well, xterm, and the class is XTerm. (Note that case matters.) The name of the 'top' invoked from the debian Menus, though, is 'Top'. Probably what you want is: XTerm*Font: 10x20 -- Brian Moore | Of course vi is God's editor. Sysadmin, C/Perl Hacker | If He used Emacs, He'd still be waiting Usenet Vandal | for it to load on the seventh day. Netscum, Bane of Elves.
Re: woody: xterm clients (mc, lynx) do not use the xtrem* from Xresources?
On Thu, Aug 10, 2000 at 07:49:50AM +0300, Shaul Karl wrote: I was not explaining myself well. Allow me to try once more: I have a 14 screen. When I am using Debian's menu system and issue XShells-Xterm I am getting an xterm whose width is roughly the width of my screen. I believe that this is due to my use of xterm*Font: 10x20 in my `/.Xresources, which forces the xterm window to be of a certain width. Until recently, when I used, for example, Apps-System-Top to see the processes on the machine I was getting a window which had the size of the above xterm. But starting from Yesterday this is not the case. Now top (or other text apps) window is much smaller then my xterms. My guess is that for some reason the xterm*Font is not used anymore by these apps. How can I fix it so that these xterm clients will be opened in a window which has the size of my xterms? My window manager is fvwm. Are you positive it's being run with xterm and not some other x-terminal-emulator (kvt, rxvt, gnome-terminal, etc...)? There are some subtle differences between xterm*font, Xterm*font, xterm*Font and Xterm*Font. In an xterm, Ctrl-Right Click should allow you to change the font size on the fly as well (if it doesn't give you a menu -- maybe it's not an xterm...). Thanks. You have given me an intermediate solution. When I press Ctrl-Right Click on the opened text app (be it top, mc, gnuplot) I can see that the VT Fonts are the default fonts. I can then choose Huge in order to get the fonts and window size that I am used to. Well, almost. Having the text app resized window lying on top of an xterm shows that the xterm window is still a bit wider. What is the required resource for getting a Huge fonts in any xterm? Changing xterm*Font into Xterm*Font made the xterm window have the size of the smaller size of the windows of the text apps and not the other way around. And the underlying problem remains: Why are all these text apps being started in a smaller window? It was not like that before. Is there a bug somewhere? Am I the only one who have this problem? BTW: I do not have any other x-terminal-emulator on my system beside xterm. -- MegaHAL quote: I think a blowpipe is a marijuana cigarrette. It'll get you deleted! -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- -- Shaul Karl [EMAIL PROTECTED] Donate free food to the world's hungry: see http://www.thehungersite.com
Re: woody: xterm clients (mc, lynx) do not use the xtrem* from Xresources?
On Thu, Aug 10, 2000 at 11:10:03AM +0300, Shaul Karl wrote: Thanks. You have given me an intermediate solution. When I press Ctrl-Right Click on the opened text app (be it top, mc, gnuplot) I can see that the VT Fonts are the default fonts. I can then choose Huge in order to get the fonts and window size that I am used to. Well, almost. Having the text app resized window lying on top of an xterm shows that the xterm window is still a bit wider. What is the required resource for getting a Huge fonts in any xterm? XTerm*Font Changing xterm*Font into Xterm*Font made the xterm window have the size of the smaller size of the windows of the text apps and not the other way around. Right, and case matters. XT, not Xt. And the underlying problem remains: Why are all these text apps being started in a smaller window? It was not like that before. Is there a bug somewhere? Am I the only one who have this problem? As I recall, top has started in a window named 'Top' forever. -- Brian Moore | Of course vi is God's editor. Sysadmin, C/Perl Hacker | If He used Emacs, He'd still be waiting Usenet Vandal | for it to load on the seventh day. Netscum, Bane of Elves.
woody: xterm clients (mc, lynx) do not use the xtrem* from Xresources?
Contrary to what I was used to, it seems that the xterm clients like mc, lynx and Gnuplot do not any more use the xterm resources. Therefore I am getting a smaller window for them. What should I change in order to fix it? I am running unstable. [14:23:32 /tmp]$ cat ~/.Xresources ! ~/.Xresources AcroRead*geometry: 788x582 AcroRead*usesFrontEndProgram: false Clock*customization:-color lyx*height: 573 lyx*width: 793 tkinfo.geometry:109x38 xterm*Font: 10x20 xterm*ScrollBar: true xterm*colorMode: true xterm*customization: -color [18:14:13 /tmp]$ -- -- Shaul Karl [EMAIL PROTECTED] Donate free food to the world's hungry: see http://www.thehungersite.com
