Re: why !oh why Debian and application list

2020-06-12 Thread Joe
On Fri, 12 Jun 2020 10:36:20 +0900 A_Man_Without_Clue wrote: > On 6/8/20 2:23 AM, Seeds Notoneofmy wrote: > > Well, as the subject suggests, I'm a bit fed up with the logic > > behind how installed programs are sorted out in the Applications > > menu. > > > > The need to go hunt down an installe

Re: why !oh why Debian and application list

2020-06-12 Thread Admin4
have you tried Alt+F2 (brings up a search menu X-D) On 6/12/20 10:31 AM, Joe wrote: > On Fri, 12 Jun 2020 10:36:20 +0900 > A_Man_Without_Clue wrote: > >> On 6/8/20 2:23 AM, Seeds Notoneofmy wrote: >>> Well, as the subject suggests, I'm a bit fed up with the logic >>> behind how installed programs

Re: How long will this take?

2020-06-12 Thread Michael Stone
On Thu, Jun 11, 2020 at 08:52:10PM -0500, David Wright wrote: If you were preserving the disk contents (imagine there were proprietary encryption software on it), and performed a "read test" or ran badblocks on it, would that be sufficient to test the disk's performance, as it's merely reading th

SimpleBackportCreation attempt says: The value 'unstable' is invalid for APT::Default-Release

2020-06-12 Thread David
Hi, on buster, I'm having a problem using the wiki instructions https://wiki.debian.org/SimpleBackportCreation specifically the 3 steps under the subheading "Add source package entries for the testing distribution" Although in my case I am seeking to obtain the source package from unstable, not tes

Re: SimpleBackportCreation attempt says: The value 'unstable' is invalid for APT::Default-Release

2020-06-12 Thread David
The next step in the instructions also does not work for me (on buster): # mk-build-deps --install --remove Usage: mk-build-deps --help|--version mk-build-deps [options] control file | package name ... # I thought those instructions are intended for a person who is running stable and wan

Re: SimpleBackportCreation attempt says: The value 'unstable' is invalid for APT::Default-Release

2020-06-12 Thread Reco
Hi. On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 10:02:12PM +1000, David wrote: > Per step 1, I add a temporary unstable deb-src line so that my > /etc/apt/sources.list becomes (comments removed, see last line): ... > deb-src http://approx:/debian/ unstable main contrib non-free For "apt source" to work y

Re: SimpleBackportCreation attempt says: The value 'unstable' is invalid for APT::Default-Release

2020-06-12 Thread Reco
On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 11:23:27PM +1000, David wrote: > The next step in the instructions also does not work for me > (on buster): > > # mk-build-deps --install --remove > Usage: > mk-build-deps --help|--version > > mk-build-deps [options] control file | package name ... In your case it

[OT] Regular DKIM issues on this ML (was: Re: why !oh why Debian and application list)

2020-06-12 Thread l0f4r0
Hi, My email below got a DKIM issue. This is not the first time for me on this ML so I'm trying to debug the situation with my email provider. Does someone on this list mind forwarding to me (as an attachment please, not inline) his/her own specimen of my original email below please? I need he

Re: [OT] Regular DKIM issues on this ML (was: Re: why !oh why Debian and application list)

2020-06-12 Thread Michael Stone
On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 03:48:42PM +0200, l0f...@tuta.io wrote: My email below got a DKIM issue. It validated fine here, not a debian list issue.

Re: SimpleBackportCreation attempt says: The value 'unstable' is invalid for APT::Default-Release

2020-06-12 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 04:40:22PM +0300, Reco wrote: > For "apt source" to work you need to add two lines: > > deb http://approx:/debian/ unstable main contrib non-free > deb-src http://approx:/debian/ unstable main contrib non-free Incorrect. Do *not* add a "deb" line for unstable

Re: SimpleBackportCreation attempt says: The value 'unstable' is invalid for APT::Default-Release

2020-06-12 Thread Reco
Hi. On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 11:15:26AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 04:40:22PM +0300, Reco wrote: > > For "apt source" to work you need to add two lines: > > > > deb http://approx:/debian/ unstable main contrib non-free > > deb-src http://approx:/debia

Re: SimpleBackportCreation attempt says: The value 'unstable' is invalid for APT::Default-Release

2020-06-12 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Vi, 12 iun 20, 22:02:12, David wrote: > > But step 3 fails: > $ apt source -t unstable cgdb > Reading package lists... Done > E: The value 'unstable' is invalid for APT::Default-Release as such a > release is not available in the sources > E: Unable to find a source package for > $ apt source -

Re: SimpleBackportCreation attempt says: The value 'unstable' is invalid for APT::Default-Release

2020-06-12 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 06:27:45PM +0300, Reco wrote: > > Do *not* add a "deb" line for unstable to a stable > > system. Only add the "deb-src" line. > > And that one too (a hint - it does not). It does not *what*? What the hell are you talking about? What it does is add UNSTABLE BINARY PACKA

Re: SimpleBackportCreation attempt says: The value 'unstable' is invalid for APT::Default-Release

2020-06-12 Thread Reco
Hi. On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 12:02:11PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 06:27:45PM +0300, Reco wrote: > > > Do *not* add a "deb" line for unstable to a stable > > > system. Only add the "deb-src" line. > > > > And that one too (a hint - it does not). > > It does no

Re: SimpleBackportCreation attempt says: The value 'unstable' is invalid for APT::Default-Release

2020-06-12 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 07:15:20PM +0300, Reco wrote: > > unicorn:~$ host approx > > Host approx not found: 3(NXDOMAIN) > > LOL. Sober up first, then learn how to use apt. unicorn:~$ man sources.list | grep approx unicorn:~$ man apt | grep approx unicorn:~$ man apt-get | grep approx unicorn:~$

Re: [OT] Regular DKIM issues on this ML (was: Re: why !oh why Debian and application list)

2020-06-12 Thread Michael Stone
On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 09:52:57AM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 03:48:42PM +0200, l0f...@tuta.io wrote: My email below got a DKIM issue. It validated fine here, not a debian list issue. For the record, I looked at the wrong email. The right one did fail DKIM validatio

Re: SimpleBackportCreation attempt says: The value 'unstable' is invalid for APT::Default-Release

2020-06-12 Thread tomas
On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 12:33:02PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 07:15:20PM +0300, Reco wrote: > > > unicorn:~$ host approx > > > Host approx not found: 3(NXDOMAIN) > > > > LOL. Sober up first, then learn how to use apt. Ugh. > unicorn:~$ man sources.list | grep approx >

Re: SimpleBackportCreation attempt says: The value 'unstable' is invalid for APT::Default-Release

2020-06-12 Thread Reco
On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 12:33:02PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 07:15:20PM +0300, Reco wrote: > > > unicorn:~$ host approx > > > Host approx not found: 3(NXDOMAIN) > > > > LOL. Sober up first, then learn how to use apt. > > unicorn:~$ man sources.list | grep approx > unic

Re: Re: USB controller resets when burning CD

2020-06-12 Thread David Farrier
I now have a workaround for my problem with the Teac W5000U DVD drive and 64 bit computer. Was somewhat hard to find, but I obtained a USB controller card new enough to be PCI express but old enough not to support USB 3.0. So far, have not suffered any more controller resets. The card uses the eh

Re: SimpleBackportCreation attempt says: The value 'unstable' is invalid for APT::Default-Release

2020-06-12 Thread steve
Calm down Greg and after that have a look at https://packages.debian.org/sid/approx Thanks. Steve Le 12-06-2020, à 12:33:02 -0400, Greg Wooledge a écrit : On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 07:15:20PM +0300, Reco wrote: > unicorn:~$ host approx > Host approx not found: 3(NXDOMAIN) LOL. Sober up fir

Re: SimpleBackportCreation attempt says: The value 'unstable' is invalid for APT::Default-Release

2020-06-12 Thread Reco
Hi. On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 06:38:09PM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 12:33:02PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 07:15:20PM +0300, Reco wrote: > > > > unicorn:~$ host approx > > > > Host approx not found: 3(NXDOMAIN) > > > > > > LOL. Sober

Re: SimpleBackportCreation attempt says: The value 'unstable' is invalid for APT::Default-Release

2020-06-12 Thread tomas
On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 07:42:22PM +0300, Reco wrote: [...] > They say that one can prove anything by creative usage of quoting, and > yours is a fine example of it. Here's better one: Sorry. I wasn't trying to "prove" anything. Much less to make you or anyone look bad. [...] > > Hey, folks. C

Re: SimpleBackportCreation attempt says: The value 'unstable' is invalid for APT::Default-Release

2020-06-12 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 06:38:09PM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > apt show approx will help. It's an APT proxy/cache (I'm more familiar > with apt-cacher-ng though) Oh, that actually looks useful. (Also, you actually gave *useful information*, that was not simply "do research on this half a wor

Re: SimpleBackportCreation attempt says: The value 'unstable' is invalid for APT::Default-Release

2020-06-12 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 12:59:47PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > After the compiling, it started running a test suite. One of the > tests failed. So, this particular package might not have been as > good a choice as I had hoped, for a simple demonstration of the > process. I was too pessimistic.

Re: SimpleBackportCreation attempt says: The value 'unstable' is invalid for APT::Default-Release

2020-06-12 Thread tomas
On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 12:59:47PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 06:38:09PM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > apt show approx will help. It's an APT proxy/cache (I'm more familiar > > with apt-cacher-ng though) > > Oh, that actually looks useful [...] It sure is. I've pla

Re: SimpleBackportCreation attempt says: The value 'unstable' is invalid for APT::Default-Release

2020-06-12 Thread Greg Wooledge
> > DO NOT add a "deb" line for unstable! > > > > I will keep repeating that as many times as it takes. Because it's > > freaking IMPORTANT. > > Just a hint: it'd be more empowering for your interlocutors if you > didn't just tell "don't do that" but rather what happens if they > do (my guess is

Re: SimpleBackportCreation attempt says: The value 'unstable' is invalid for APT::Default-Release

2020-06-12 Thread Reco
On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 01:32:52PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > My first message was quite polite. > > https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2020/06/msg00426.html Your first message was factually incorrect *and* rude. I merely showed where you've mistaken. > My second message went into details

Re: [OT] Regular DKIM issues on this ML (was: Re: why !oh why Debian and application list)

2020-06-12 Thread Michael Stone
On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 12:36:29PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 09:52:57AM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 03:48:42PM +0200, l0f...@tuta.io wrote: My email below got a DKIM issue. It validated fine here, not a debian list issue. For the record, I l

Re: [OT] Regular DKIM issues on this ML (was: Re: why !oh why Debian and application list)

2020-06-12 Thread l0f4r0
Hi, 12 juin 2020 à 22:16 de mst...@debian.org: > More information from the OP, it looks like the message sent to the list was > base64 encoded html. So I'm guessing that the list software autoconverted > that to plain text--which would mean there's no way to preserve a valid DKIM > signature.

Re: [OT] Regular DKIM issues on this ML (was: Re: why !oh why Debian and application list)

2020-06-12 Thread Reco
Hi. On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 04:16:23PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: > On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 12:36:29PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 09:52:57AM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: > > > On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 03:48:42PM +0200, l0f...@tuta.io wrote: > > > > My email belo

Re: [OT] Regular DKIM issues on this ML (was: Re: why !oh why Debian and application list)

2020-06-12 Thread Michael Stone
On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 11:32:20PM +0300, Reco wrote: Hi. On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 04:16:23PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 12:36:29PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: > On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 09:52:57AM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 03:48:42PM

Re: [OT] Regular DKIM issues on this ML (was: Re: why !oh why Debian and application list)

2020-06-12 Thread l0f4r0
Hi Reco, 12 juin 2020 à 22:32 de recovery...@enotuniq.net: > Removing Content-Type (and maybe Content-Transfer-Encoding) from OP's > DKIM policy should do the trick, although it can has certain undesirable > side-effects if MTA in question is used for other purposes. > Thanks, I will submit this

Re: [OT] Regular DKIM issues on this ML (was: Re: why !oh why Debian and application list)

2020-06-12 Thread Reco
On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 10:45:13PM +0200, l0f...@tuta.io wrote: > Hi Reco, > > 12 juin 2020 à 22:32 de recovery...@enotuniq.net: > > > Removing Content-Type (and maybe Content-Transfer-Encoding) from OP's > > DKIM policy should do the trick, although it can has certain undesirable > > side-effect

Re: [OT] Regular DKIM issues on this ML (was: Re: why !oh why Debian and application list)

2020-06-12 Thread Michael Stone
On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 11:53:40PM +0300, Reco wrote: No, the body is not interesting at all here. What I'm interested in is the result of DKIM check, and that's might be written in e-mail headers. Or not. dkim=fail (2048-bit key) reason="fail (body has been altered)"

Re: Unable to boot new buster installation

2020-06-12 Thread Gary L. Roach
On 6/11/20 1:24 AM, Dominique Dumont wrote: On mercredi 10 juin 2020 19:53:53 CEST Gary L. Roach wrote: The sequence of events on boot up are Bios screen, Debian Window with OS selection, Boot up sequence, login/password ( Xorg not running), startx -> error window. So to answer your question, th

Re: Grub cannot see my new hard drive

2020-06-12 Thread Dan Ritter
Matthew Campbell wrote: > I hope I don't create a fight with this. It's really much more rare than your recent experience would suggest. > I booted the Debian netinst disc and installed Linux on /dev/sdb1 as the root > partition. My computer is old. The system BIOS does not see this hard drive,

Re: Grub cannot see my new hard drive

2020-06-12 Thread elvis
On 13/6/20 10:58 am, Matthew Campbell wrote: I hope I don't create a fight with this. I booted the Debian netinst disc and installed Linux on /dev/sdb1 as the root partition. My computer is old. The system BIOS does not see this hard drive, nor does Grub, but the Linux kernel does. I'm runni

Re: Unable to boot new buster installation

2020-06-12 Thread David Wright
On Fri 12 Jun 2020 at 14:22:03 (-0700), Gary L. Roach wrote: > On 6/11/20 1:24 AM, Dominique Dumont wrote: > > On mercredi 10 juin 2020 19:53:53 CEST Gary L. Roach wrote: > > > The sequence of events on boot up are Bios screen, Debian Window with OS > > > selection, Boot up sequence, login/password

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[solved] Re: SimpleBackportCreation attempt says: The value 'unstable' is invalid for APT::Default-Release

2020-06-12 Thread David
Hi, first thank-you to everyone who replied for taking an interest in assisting me and improving Debian guides. I feel very lucky to have access to you folks here with expertise and experience plus the goodwill to help someone without expecting anything in return. I will summarise and respond to a

Re: Grub cannot see my new hard drive

2020-06-12 Thread deloptes
Matthew Campbell wrote: > I booted the Debian netinst disc and installed Linux on /dev/sdb1 as the > root partition. My computer is old. The system BIOS does not see this hard > drive, nor does Grub, but the Linux kernel does. I'm running the > 4.19.0-9-686-pae kernel, #1 SMP Debian 4.19.118-2 and

Re: Need commands

2020-06-12 Thread deloptes
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Re: Grub cannot see my new hard drive

2020-06-12 Thread David Christensen
On 2020-06-12 17:58, Matthew Campbell wrote: I hope I don't create a fight with this. I booted the Debian netinst disc and installed Linux on /dev/sdb1 as the root partition. My computer is old. Computer make and model? Processor? RAM module quantity, size, and slot? HDD makes, models, in