Re: App Banco Itau

2024-06-12 Thread Atenágoras Silva
Não sou cliente do banco, mas é possível que o acesso à sua conta no
computador seja possível apenas através do navegador.
Para isso, muito provavelmente, será necessário instalar um software
chamado "warsaw", de uma empresa chamada "GAS tecnologia".
Os procedimentos para isso devem ser feitos junto ao suporte do banco (O
Banco do Brasil tem um suporte para isso).
Mas eu recomendo que, se usar o computador, instale o warsaw em uma máquina
virtual e acesse o banco a partir dela, pois este software roda como um
daemon com permissões de root o tempo todo, mesmo que você não esteja
acessando o banco.

Em qua., 12 de jun. de 2024 às 09:08, Vitor Hugo 
escreveu:

> Bom dia,
>
> Gostaria de saber se é possível utilizar o banco Itau no Debian?
>
> Se alguém aqui na lista utiliza e se funciona bem.
>
> Estou utilizando o APP do Itau e alguma coisas só funcionam la.
>
> Existem versão para Linux ou teria como utilizar um emulador para
> utiliza-la?
>
> Obrigado;
>
>


Re: [OT] - Software para leer data loggers

2024-06-12 Thread Jorge Abel Secreto
El mié, 12 jun 2024 a la(s) 5:13 a.m., Camaleón (noela...@gmail.com) escribió:
>
> El 2024-06-11 a las 12:41 -0300, Jorge Abel Secreto escribió:
>
> > Hola!!
> > Disculpen que moleste con esto.
> > Estoy tratando de leer los registros de un data logger de temperaturas
> > TESTO 174T desde Debian 12.
> > El sistema lo ve asi:
> > usb 1-3: new full-speed USB device number 4 using xhci_hcd
> > usb 1-3: New USB device found, idVendor=128d, idProduct=0013, bcdDevice= 
> > 6.00
> > usb 1-3: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=0
> > usb 1-3: Product: testo 174-2010
> > usb 1-3: Manufacturer: Testo SE & Co. KGaA
> > El fabricante provee un programa para Windows pero me gustaría poder
> > hacerlo desde Linux.
>
> Pídeselo ;-)
>
> ***
> https://static.testo.com/image/upload/Instruction-manual-and-Software/Instruction-manuals/testo-comfort-software-basic-5-manual-de-instrucciones.pdf
>
> 3.2. Requisitos del sistema
>
> Sistema operativo
>
> El software funciona con los siguientes sistemas operativos:
>
> • Windows ® 10
> • Windows ® 11
> • Otros: a pedido
>   ^^^
> ***
>
> > Las busquedas por "linux data logger testo 174" me traen referencias a
> > la página oficial o a paginas de vendedores del aparato.
> > Buscando en Synaptic no encuentro nada que parezca servir.
> > ¿Estoy buscando mal?
> > ¿Alguno de ustedes usa algo que me pueda servir?
>
> Máquina virtual o emulador (Wine).
>
> Para estos casos no se me ocurre nada más, son aplicaciones
> propietarias desarrolladas para un producto concreto, propietario, así
> que mal asunto :-(
>
> Saludos,
>
> --
> Camaleón
>

Muchas gracias por las respuestas
Tendré que mantener un Win andando para leer este aparato.
No tengo la esperanza de que los de Testo me den el protocolo de
comunicación :-P
Encima tenemos un solo registrador, no justifica ningún desarrollo.
Como de costumbre siempre hay cosas mas urgentes :-/
Nuevamente muchas gracias por su atención,
Abrazos

-- 
Jorge A Secreto
Analista de Sistemas
MP 361



Re: OFF-TOPIC - cyberseguranca

2024-06-12 Thread luigui

Bom dia Vitor,

nao sei se classificaria completamente como OFF-TOPIC

Visto que configuracoes em nossas distros Debian poderao oportunamente 
serem criadas sobre programas que venham a auxiliar no reconhecimento de 
chamadas.


Nao estendendo, mas ja sao criadas antenas domesticas por agressores que 
conseguem contornar os protocolos de comunicacao e seguranca das 
operadoras estabelecendo conexoes mal intencionadas.


Mas presumo que razao possa lhe assistir.

Grato pelo retorno.


On 12/06/2024 07:41, Vitor Hugo wrote:

Bom dia,

Isto é um OFF-TOPIC.

Desconheço esse tipo de ataque, mas teoricamente se para isto 
funcionar deveria ser feito por uma chamada pela internet, acredito 
que somente por voz sem internet isso não seja possível.


Porem sei que aqui na lista possuem pessoas muito informadas e 
esclarecidas com conhecimentos técnicos de primeira linha que possam 
lhe ajudar mais.



Em 11/06/2024 23:03, luiz gil escreveu:

Boa noite aos amigos!
Peco que retornem alguma experiencia ou mesmo uma ciencia de qualquer 
natureza do abaixo enunciado como, leitura, conversas com experts ou 
afins.

Desculpem pelo topico ser talvez de baixa correlacao desta lista.


E' possível que apenas ao receber uma chamada sem dizer uma palavra 
ao agressor, você possa ter seu telefone infectado. Esse tipo de 
ataque é conhecido como ataque de "chamada perdida" ou "chamada 
silenciosa". Nesse cenário, os hackers exploram vulnerabilidades nos 
sistemas de comunicação dos dispositivos para enviar uma chamada 
aparentemente inofensiva, mas que na verdade contém códigos maliciosos.


Quando você atende a chamada, mesmo sem falar nada, os códigos 
maliciosos podem ser executados automaticamente no seu dispositivo, 
explorando alguma vulnerabilidade do sistema operacional ou de um 
aplicativo. Esses códigos podem instalar malware no seu telefone, 
roubar informações pessoais, controlar remotamente o dispositivo, 
entre outras ações prejudiciais.


Portanto, é importante ter em mente que, mesmo sem interagir 
verbalmente com o agressor durante uma chamada, seu telefone ainda 
pode estar em risco se houver uma exploração de vulnerabilidade 
através dessa chamada. Manter o software do seu dispositivo 
atualizado, evitar atender chamadas de números desconhecidos e usar 
aplicativos de segurança confiáveis podem ajudar a mitigar esses riscos.


--
Atenciosamente,
Luiz Carlos Proenca Gil
null

Re: virt-manager (qemu/kvm) et virtiofs

2024-06-12 Thread BERTRAND Joël
didier gaumet a écrit :
> Le 12/06/2024 à 10:31, BERTRAND Joël a écrit :
>> Bonjour à tous,
>>
>> Je dois faire quelques tests avec une imprimante 3D et un logiciel ne
>> fonctionnant que sous Windows. J'ai donc installé W10 dans une machine
>> virtuelle (virtmanager). Le réseau fonctionne bien. J'aimerais
>> maintenant pouvoir partager un disque réseau avec virtiofs (virtio-9P ne
>> semble pas fonctionner).
>>
>> Je me prends l'erreur suivante :
>>
>> Erreur lors du démarrage du domaine: internal error: process exited
>> while connecting to monitor: 2024-06-12T08:29:18.308752Z
>> qemu-system-x86_64: -chardev
>> socket,id=chr-vu-fs0,path=/home/bertrand/.config/libvirt/qemu/lib/domain-11-win10/fs0-fs.sock:
>>
>> Failed to connect to
>> '/home/bertrand/.config/libvirt/qemu/lib/domain-11-win10/fs0-fs.sock':
>> Connection refused
>>
>> Très bien. Sauf que /usr/lib/qemu/virtiofsd est bien présent (avec un
>> lien sur /usr/libexec/virtiofsd). Je ne peux pas lancer le daemon à la
>> main, le répertoire de la socket changeant à chaque fois.
>>
>> Dans le fichier XML de définition des disques, j'ai bien la chose
>> suivante :
>>
>> 
>>    
>>    
>>    
>>    
>>    > function="0x0"/>
>> 
>>
>> Ma question est donc simple (et je viens de googliser durant
>> plusieurs
>> heures sans trouver de solution) : comment faire démarrer virtiofsd lors
>> du démarrage de la machine virtuelle ?
>>
>> Merci de vos lumières,
>>
>> JB
>>
> 
> Bonjour,
> 
> il y a un mode opératoire ici:
> https://github.com/virtio-win/kvm-guest-drivers-windows/wiki/Virtiofs:-Shared-file-system
> 
> 
> si je comprends correctement (c'est pas sûr):
> - il te manque peut-être les éléments WinFSP et VirtioWin dans l'invité
> Windows?

Non, mais de toute façon, c'est hors de propos puisque la machine
virtuelle refuse de démarrer.

> - tu ne sembles pas avoir instancié le périphérique ("instantiate the
> character device" dans la doc ci-dessus)?

L’instanciation est faite (sauf que la VM cherche à se connecter à une
socket créée par virtiofsd qui n'est jamais créée parce que virtiofsd
n'est jamais lancé...).

Bien cordialement,

JB



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Re: [OT] Re: LibreOffice - Thunderbird - Windows 10 - [SOLUCIONADO]

2024-06-12 Thread Javier ArgentinaBBAR
El mar, 11 jun 2024 a las 14:23, Camaleón () escribió:
>
> El 2024-06-11 a las 08:50 -0300, Javier ArgentinaBBAR escribió:
>
> (corrijo el top-posting)
>
> > El mié, 29 may 2024 a las 14:23, Camaleón () escribió:
> > >
> > > El 2024-05-29 a las 09:45 -0300, Javier ArgentinaBBAR escribió:
> > >
> > > (...)
> > >
> > > > Me explico:
> > > > Creo un documento en LibreOffice Calc o Writer, y cuando pico Archivo,
> > > > Enviar, Enviar documento por correo, el maldito abre Outlook y no
> > > > Thunderbird.
> > >
> > > (...)
> > >
> > > Preguntonta...
> > >
> > > ¿Has probado a definir manualmente la ruta al ejecutable de la aplicación
> > > (Thunderbird)?
> > >
> > > 
> > > https://help.libreoffice.org/24.2/en-US/text/shared/guide/email.html
> > >
> > > Sending Documents as Email
> > >
> > > Working in LibreOffice, you can send the current document as an email
> > > attachment.
> > >
> > > Choose File - Send - Email Document.
> > >
> > > LibreOffice opens your default email program. If you want to send
> > > the current document with another email program, you can select the
> > > program to use with Internet - Email in the Options dialog box.
> > >
> > > In your email program, enter the recipient, subject and any text
> > > you want to add, then send the email.
> > >
> > > 
> > >
> > > Nota: a veces, volver a instalar la aplicación (Thunderbird) soluciona
> > > el problema «mágicamente» debido a que, al ser la última que registra
> > > el SO (y más concretamete en Windows), la «predetermina», por así decir.
> > >
> > > Saludos,
>
> > Buen día.
> >
> > Vuelvo a la carga.
> > En un Debian, tengo exactamente la misma versión de LibreOffice que en
> > Windows, 24.2.3.2.
> > En Debian, en "Opciones", "Internet", entre "Proxy" y "Media wiki" hay
> > una opción "Correo electrónico", que en la versión Windows, brilla por
> > su ausencia.
> > En la guía de Libre Office
> > https://documentation.libreoffice.org/assets/Uploads/Documentation/es/GS62/PDF/GS6202-ConfigurarLibreOffice.pdf
> > página 31, figura 29 se puede ver.
> > A continuación dice " En Windows se usa el programa predeterminado
> > para el envío de correo electrónico del sistema operativo."
> > Lo cual, a todas luces, no funciona.
> >
> > Si alguien tiene alguna idea de dónde escarbar en el registro, que es
> > donde huelo que está el problema, se agradece la ayuda.
>
> Si en Windows LO depende de la aplicación predeterminada en el sistema,
> sólo se me ocurre que Outlook esté fagocitando a Thundebird respecto a
> la configuración del soporte MAPI, de ahí que LO le dé preferencia.
>
> Revisa esta KB por si te diera alguna pista:
>
> MAPI Support
> http://kb.mozillazine.org/MAPI_Support
>
> Saludos,
>
> --
> Camaleón
>

Buen día.

Camaleón, gracias una vez más.
Revolviendo el sistema basándome en lo que enviaste, la solución fue
"muy a lo Windows".

Esto es válido para Windows 10:
1 - Desinstalar Thundebird. No preocuparse, no borra los datos del
usuario, sólo desinstala el programa.
2 - Desinstalar Office 365 Pro 2021.
3 - Reiniciar sistema.
4 - Desde fuera del sistema, con SystemRescueCD, renombrar
c:\Windows\System32\mapi32.dll
5 - Iniciar Windows 10, y ejecutar c:\Windows\System32\fixmapi.exe
6 - Reiniciar Windows 10.
7 - Instalar Office 365 Pro 2021.
8 - Instalar Thunderbird.
9 - Ejecutar "Inicio", "Aplicaciones predeterminadas".
10 - Picar en "Establecer valores predeterminados por aplicación".
11 - Buscar los tres "Thunderbird", picarlos y seleccionar "Administrar".
12 - Seleccionar y asociar TODO a Thunderbird.
13 - NO EJECUTAR THUNDERBIRD hasta reiniciar.
14 - Reiniciar Windows.

Por fin funciona la opción "Archivo", "Enviar documento por correo" de
Libre Office Writer y Calc.
Si bien no lo probé, ESTIMO que no se debe instalar Office 365 después
de Thunderbird, porque al ser un paquete generalista, que incluye
Outlook y no permite seleccionar qué programas instalar y cuáles no,
tengo la impresión que pisa todo.

Saludos y gracias a todos.

JAP



Re: OFF-TOPIC - cyberseguranca

2024-06-12 Thread Vitor Hugo

Bom dia,

Isto é um OFF-TOPIC.

Desconheço esse tipo de ataque, mas teoricamente se para isto funcionar 
deveria ser feito por uma chamada pela internet, acredito que somente 
por voz sem internet isso não seja possível.


Porem sei que aqui na lista possuem pessoas muito informadas e 
esclarecidas com conhecimentos técnicos de primeira linha que possam lhe 
ajudar mais.



Em 11/06/2024 23:03, luiz gil escreveu:

Boa noite aos amigos!
Peco que retornem alguma experiencia ou mesmo uma ciencia de qualquer 
natureza do abaixo enunciado como, leitura, conversas com experts ou 
afins.

Desculpem pelo topico ser talvez de baixa correlacao desta lista.


E' possível que apenas ao receber uma chamada sem dizer uma palavra ao 
agressor, você possa ter seu telefone infectado. Esse tipo de ataque é 
conhecido como ataque de "chamada perdida" ou "chamada silenciosa". 
Nesse cenário, os hackers exploram vulnerabilidades nos sistemas de 
comunicação dos dispositivos para enviar uma chamada aparentemente 
inofensiva, mas que na verdade contém códigos maliciosos.


Quando você atende a chamada, mesmo sem falar nada, os códigos 
maliciosos podem ser executados automaticamente no seu dispositivo, 
explorando alguma vulnerabilidade do sistema operacional ou de um 
aplicativo. Esses códigos podem instalar malware no seu telefone, 
roubar informações pessoais, controlar remotamente o dispositivo, 
entre outras ações prejudiciais.


Portanto, é importante ter em mente que, mesmo sem interagir 
verbalmente com o agressor durante uma chamada, seu telefone ainda 
pode estar em risco se houver uma exploração de vulnerabilidade 
através dessa chamada. Manter o software do seu dispositivo 
atualizado, evitar atender chamadas de números desconhecidos e usar 
aplicativos de segurança confiáveis podem ajudar a mitigar esses riscos.


--
Atenciosamente,
Luiz Carlos Proenca Gil




Re: Please help me identify package so I can report an important bug

2024-06-12 Thread Richard
Question is, does it make that much sense to report it to Debian directly?
Are you encountering this issue on Debian itself or
Armbian/Raspbian/whatever? You reported this to the Raspberry Pi GitHub, so
I'd expect them to take this up with the upstream devs themselves, so by
the time Trixie is being released, it may already be included.

But besides that, what you describe in the first link sounds to me not like
a bug, but as a well thought-through decision. Network adapter names like
eth0 have been dropped with Debian 11 (I think, maybe even 10). So don't
get your hopes up too high to ever see this coming back. But also, just
searching the web for this topic, you should have come across this
answering your questions: https://wiki.debian.org/NetworkInterfaceNames

Richard

Am Mi., 12. Juni 2024 um 12:43 Uhr schrieb Peter Goodall <
pjgood...@gmail.com>:

> Hello,
>
> This  bug, or a close relative, has already been reported in
> https://github.com/raspberrypi/bookworm-feedback/issues/239
> as 'Predictable network names broken for ASIX USB ethernet in kernel
> 6.6.20'
>
> I added a comment reporting my experience in Proxmox here:
>
> https://github.com/raspberrypi/bookworm-feedback/issues/239#issuecomment-2162166863
>
> Because it happens in proxmox and rpi I assume its Debian or higher. I
> have not reported a Debian bug before...
>
> Thanks,
> --Peter G
>


App Banco Itau

2024-06-12 Thread Vitor Hugo

Bom dia,

Gostaria de saber se é possível utilizar o banco Itau no Debian?

Se alguém aqui na lista utiliza e se funciona bem.

Estou utilizando o APP do Itau e alguma coisas só funcionam la.

Existem versão para Linux ou teria como utilizar um emulador para 
utiliza-la?


Obrigado;



Having ten thousands of mount bind causes various processes to go into loops

2024-06-12 Thread Julien Petit
Dear,

Not sure i should report a bug so here is a report first. For more
than 10 years now, we've been using mount binds to create shares rw or
ro. It's been working perfectly under older Debian. A few months ago,
we migrated to Ubuntu Jammy and started having processes running 100%
non stop. While examining the processes in question, we could see the
same thing: it seemed to be reading all the mounts indefinitely.
It started with the phpsessionclean.service. We managed to fix it
editing /lib/systemd/system/phpsessionclean.service and disabling
sandboxing entries. But then it started to happen with other
processes.
Anything related to systemd seems affected in a way. For instance, we
cannot start haproxy if the mounts are mounted.
We tested with the last Debian and it is affected too.

We understand that 14 000 mounts is a lot. So maybe our usage will be
questioned. But this has been working for ages so why not now?

The problem can be very easily reproduced:

1. Launch the latest Debian stable
2. Execute the following script to create mounts:
#!/bin/bash
mkdir /home/test/directories
mkdir /home/test/mounts

for i in {1..14000}
do
   echo "Mounting dir $i"
   mkdir "/home/test/directories/dir_$i"
   mkdir "/home/test/mounts/dir_$i"
   mount --bind -o rw "/home/test/directories/dir_$i" "/home/test/mounts/dir_$i"
done

After that, the "top" command will show processes getting stuck using
100% of CPU never ending.

Has anyone a clue if this is fixable? Should i report a bug?
Thanks for your help.



Re: virt-manager (qemu/kvm) et virtiofs

2024-06-12 Thread didier gaumet

Le 12/06/2024 à 10:31, BERTRAND Joël a écrit :

Bonjour à tous,

Je dois faire quelques tests avec une imprimante 3D et un logiciel ne
fonctionnant que sous Windows. J'ai donc installé W10 dans une machine
virtuelle (virtmanager). Le réseau fonctionne bien. J'aimerais
maintenant pouvoir partager un disque réseau avec virtiofs (virtio-9P ne
semble pas fonctionner).

Je me prends l'erreur suivante :

Erreur lors du démarrage du domaine: internal error: process exited
while connecting to monitor: 2024-06-12T08:29:18.308752Z
qemu-system-x86_64: -chardev
socket,id=chr-vu-fs0,path=/home/bertrand/.config/libvirt/qemu/lib/domain-11-win10/fs0-fs.sock:
Failed to connect to
'/home/bertrand/.config/libvirt/qemu/lib/domain-11-win10/fs0-fs.sock':
Connection refused

Très bien. Sauf que /usr/lib/qemu/virtiofsd est bien présent (avec un
lien sur /usr/libexec/virtiofsd). Je ne peux pas lancer le daemon à la
main, le répertoire de la socket changeant à chaque fois.

Dans le fichier XML de définition des disques, j'ai bien la chose
suivante :


   
   
   
   
   


Ma question est donc simple (et je viens de googliser durant plusieurs
heures sans trouver de solution) : comment faire démarrer virtiofsd lors
du démarrage de la machine virtuelle ?

Merci de vos lumières,

JB



Bonjour,

il y a un mode opératoire ici:
https://github.com/virtio-win/kvm-guest-drivers-windows/wiki/Virtiofs:-Shared-file-system

si je comprends correctement (c'est pas sûr):
- il te manque peut-être les éléments WinFSP et VirtioWin dans l'invité 
Windows?
- tu ne sembles pas avoir instancié le périphérique ("instantiate the 
character device" dans la doc ci-dessus)?





virt-manager (qemu/kvm) et virtiofs

2024-06-12 Thread BERTRAND Joël
Bonjour à tous,

Je dois faire quelques tests avec une imprimante 3D et un logiciel ne
fonctionnant que sous Windows. J'ai donc installé W10 dans une machine
virtuelle (virtmanager). Le réseau fonctionne bien. J'aimerais
maintenant pouvoir partager un disque réseau avec virtiofs (virtio-9P ne
semble pas fonctionner).

Je me prends l'erreur suivante :

Erreur lors du démarrage du domaine: internal error: process exited
while connecting to monitor: 2024-06-12T08:29:18.308752Z
qemu-system-x86_64: -chardev
socket,id=chr-vu-fs0,path=/home/bertrand/.config/libvirt/qemu/lib/domain-11-win10/fs0-fs.sock:
Failed to connect to
'/home/bertrand/.config/libvirt/qemu/lib/domain-11-win10/fs0-fs.sock':
Connection refused

Très bien. Sauf que /usr/lib/qemu/virtiofsd est bien présent (avec un
lien sur /usr/libexec/virtiofsd). Je ne peux pas lancer le daemon à la
main, le répertoire de la socket changeant à chaque fois.

Dans le fichier XML de définition des disques, j'ai bien la chose
suivante :


  
  
  
  
  


Ma question est donc simple (et je viens de googliser durant plusieurs
heures sans trouver de solution) : comment faire démarrer virtiofsd lors
du démarrage de la machine virtuelle ?

Merci de vos lumières,

JB



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Re: [OT] - Software para leer data loggers

2024-06-12 Thread Camaleón
El 2024-06-11 a las 12:41 -0300, Jorge Abel Secreto escribió:

> Hola!!
> Disculpen que moleste con esto.
> Estoy tratando de leer los registros de un data logger de temperaturas
> TESTO 174T desde Debian 12.
> El sistema lo ve asi:
> usb 1-3: new full-speed USB device number 4 using xhci_hcd
> usb 1-3: New USB device found, idVendor=128d, idProduct=0013, bcdDevice= 6.00
> usb 1-3: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=0
> usb 1-3: Product: testo 174-2010
> usb 1-3: Manufacturer: Testo SE & Co. KGaA
> El fabricante provee un programa para Windows pero me gustaría poder
> hacerlo desde Linux.

Pídeselo ;-)

***
https://static.testo.com/image/upload/Instruction-manual-and-Software/Instruction-manuals/testo-comfort-software-basic-5-manual-de-instrucciones.pdf

3.2. Requisitos del sistema

Sistema operativo

El software funciona con los siguientes sistemas operativos:

• Windows ® 10
• Windows ® 11
• Otros: a pedido
  ^^^
***

> Las busquedas por "linux data logger testo 174" me traen referencias a
> la página oficial o a paginas de vendedores del aparato.
> Buscando en Synaptic no encuentro nada que parezca servir.
> ¿Estoy buscando mal?
> ¿Alguno de ustedes usa algo que me pueda servir?

Máquina virtual o emulador (Wine).

Para estos casos no se me ocurre nada más, son aplicaciones 
propietarias desarrolladas para un producto concreto, propietario, así 
que mal asunto :-(

Saludos,

-- 
Camaleón 



Re: descargar versiones anteriores

2024-06-12 Thread Camaleón
El 2024-06-12 a las 03:36 +0200, Juaan Carrlos Rebate escribió:

> Disculpad por el HTML, envío el correo desde Windows y no hay forma de 
> eliminar el formato. 

¿?

Se llama «formato texto plano», todos los clientes lo tienen, hasta los 
malogrados webmail.

> Fernando, gracias por tu respuesta pero te comento 
> que ni jigdo-file ni lite están en los repos

(...)

El paquete estar, está:

https://packages.debian.org/bullseye/jigdo-file
https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/jigdo

sm01@stt008:~$ apt-cache search jigdo-file
jigdo-file - Download Debian CD/DVD/USB images from any Debian mirror

sm01@stt008:~$ uname -a
Linux stt008 5.10.0-30-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 5.10.218-1 (2024-06-01) x86_64 
GNU/Linux

Revisa tu configuración y repositorios.

Saludos,

-- 
Camaleón 



Please help me identify package so I can report an important bug

2024-06-12 Thread Peter Goodall
Hello,

This  bug, or a close relative, has already been reported in
https://github.com/raspberrypi/bookworm-feedback/issues/239
as 'Predictable network names broken for ASIX USB ethernet in kernel 6.6.20'

I added a comment reporting my experience in Proxmox here:
https://github.com/raspberrypi/bookworm-feedback/issues/239#issuecomment-2162166863

Because it happens in proxmox and rpi I assume its Debian or higher. I have
not reported a Debian bug before...

Thanks,
--Peter G


Re: DNS query question

2024-06-11 Thread Geert Stappers
On Wed, Jun 12, 2024 at 06:42:04AM +0200, Marco Moock wrote:
> Am 12.06.2024 um 10:51:45 Uhr schrieb Jeff Peng:
> > Hello list,
> > 
> > I have made a successful query in one of my VPS as the following.
> > 
> > ~$ dig 235.84.36.104.zen.spamhaus.org
> > ;; QUESTION SECTION:
> > ;235.84.36.104.zen.spamhaus.org.IN  A
> > 
> > ;; ANSWER SECTION:
> > 235.84.36.104.zen.spamhaus.org. 852 IN  A   127.0.0.10
> > 
> > ;; Query time: 0 msec
> > ;; SERVER: 127.0.0.53#53(127.0.0.53)
> > 
> > 
> > But, the same query wouldn't success in another VPS as follows.
> > 
> > $ dig 235.84.36.104.zen.spamhaus.org
> > ;; QUESTION SECTION:
> > ;235.84.36.104.zen.spamhaus.org.IN  A
> > 
> > ;; Query time: 1 msec
> > ;; SERVER: 127.0.0.53#53(127.0.0.53)
> > 
> > 
> > The returned result is "NXDOMAIN".
> > 
> > Both nodes use systemd-resolve as DNS subresolver.
> > 
> > Do you know what's the reason behind this?
> 
> Spamhaus restricts queries from public resolvers.
> https://www.spamhaus.org/resource-hub/email-security/if-you-query-the-legacy-dnsbls-via-digitalocean-move-to-spamhaus-technologys-free-data-query-service/#the-headlines-for-those-in-a-hurry
> 
> 
> > Thanks.

Thanks for keeping context
Thanks for noting that response text is below previous text. Yes, keep
the discussion order.


Regards
Geert Stappers
Aware of people in different time zones
Creating awareness for that not all messages are read
Asking for standalone messages
-- 
Silence is hard to parse



Re: DNS query question

2024-06-11 Thread Marco Moock
Am 12.06.2024 um 10:51:45 Uhr schrieb Jeff Peng:

> Do you know what's the reason behind this?

Spamhaus restricts queries from public resolvers.
https://www.spamhaus.org/resource-hub/email-security/if-you-query-the-legacy-dnsbls-via-digitalocean-move-to-spamhaus-technologys-free-data-query-service/#the-headlines-for-those-in-a-hurry


-- 
Gruß
Marco

Send unsolicited bulk mail to 1718182305mu...@cartoonies.org



DNS query question

2024-06-11 Thread Jeff Peng

Hello list,

I have made a successful query in one of my VPS as the following.

~$ dig 235.84.36.104.zen.spamhaus.org

; <<>> DiG 9.16.48-Ubuntu <<>> 235.84.36.104.zen.spamhaus.org
;; global options: +cmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 2160
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 1

;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 65494
;; QUESTION SECTION:
;235.84.36.104.zen.spamhaus.org.IN  A

;; ANSWER SECTION:
235.84.36.104.zen.spamhaus.org. 852 IN  A   127.0.0.10

;; Query time: 0 msec
;; SERVER: 127.0.0.53#53(127.0.0.53)
;; WHEN: Wed Jun 12 02:45:16 UTC 2024
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 75



But, the same query wouldn't success in another VPS as follows.

$ dig 235.84.36.104.zen.spamhaus.org

; <<>> DiG 9.16.1-Ubuntu <<>> 235.84.36.104.zen.spamhaus.org
;; global options: +cmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NXDOMAIN, id: 15831
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 1

;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 65494
;; QUESTION SECTION:
;235.84.36.104.zen.spamhaus.org.IN  A

;; Query time: 1 msec
;; SERVER: 127.0.0.53#53(127.0.0.53)
;; WHEN: Wed Jun 12 10:45:41 HKT 2024
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 59


The returned result is "NXDOMAIN".

Both nodes use systemd-resolve as DNS subresolver.

Do you know what's the reason behind this?

Thanks.



Re: [OT] - Software para leer data loggers

2024-06-11 Thread Eduardo Jorge Gil Michelena
 El martes, 11 de junio de 2024, 12:42:23 p. m. ART, Jorge Abel Secreto 
 escribió:

Estoy tratando de leer los registros de un data logger de temperaturas
TESTO 174T desde Debian 12.
El sistema lo ve asi:
usb 1-3: new full-speed USB device number 4 using xhci_hcd
usb 1-3: New USB device found, idVendor=128d, idProduct=0013, bcdDevice= 6.00
usb 1-3: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=0
usb 1-3: Product: testo 174-2010
usb 1-3: Manufacturer: Testo SE & Co. KGaA
El fabricante provee un programa para Windows pero me gustaría poder
hacerlo desde Linux.
Las busquedas por "linux data logger testo 174" me traen referencias a
la página oficial o a paginas de vendedores del aparato.
Buscando en Synaptic no encuentro nada que parezca servir.
¿Estoy buscando mal?
¿Alguno de ustedes usa algo que me pueda servir?
--
Jorge A Secreto
-

RESPUESTA:

Difícil (no imposible pero casi) que en Synaptic encuentres algo específico.

Te quedan dos (o tres) alternativas:
A) Usar el programa provisto por el fabricante mediante WINE o maquina virtual 
con Windows

B) Intentar "entrar" por el USB a los archivos del aparato y tratar de tomar 
los datos de allí

C) LLamar al fabricante para que te indique la forma en que el aparato guarda 
los datos y la forma de manejo de ellos. Luego,,, tendrás que hacer un 
`programejo para usar los datos.

Sino...
Considera usar un Raspberry Pi con sensor de temperatura... incluso te puede 
salir más barato hacer el aparato.  

cyberseguranca

2024-06-11 Thread luiz gil
Boa noite aos amigos!
Peco que retornem alguma experiencia ou mesmo uma ciencia de qualquer
natureza do abaixo enunciado como, leitura, conversas com experts ou afins.
Desculpem pelo topico ser talvez de baixa correlacao desta lista.


E' possível que apenas ao receber uma chamada sem dizer uma palavra ao
agressor, você possa ter seu telefone infectado. Esse tipo de ataque é
conhecido como ataque de "chamada perdida" ou "chamada silenciosa". Nesse
cenário, os hackers exploram vulnerabilidades nos sistemas de comunicação
dos dispositivos para enviar uma chamada aparentemente inofensiva, mas que
na verdade contém códigos maliciosos.

Quando você atende a chamada, mesmo sem falar nada, os códigos maliciosos
podem ser executados automaticamente no seu dispositivo, explorando alguma
vulnerabilidade do sistema operacional ou de um aplicativo. Esses códigos
podem instalar malware no seu telefone, roubar informações pessoais,
controlar remotamente o dispositivo, entre outras ações prejudiciais.

Portanto, é importante ter em mente que, mesmo sem interagir verbalmente
com o agressor durante uma chamada, seu telefone ainda pode estar em risco
se houver uma exploração de vulnerabilidade através dessa chamada. Manter o
software do seu dispositivo atualizado, evitar atender chamadas de números
desconhecidos e usar aplicativos de segurança confiáveis podem ajudar a
mitigar esses riscos.
-- 
Atenciosamente,
Luiz Carlos Proenca Gil


RE: descargar versiones anteriores

2024-06-11 Thread Juaan Carrlos Rebate
 De: Fernando C. EstradaEnviado: lunes, 10 de junio de 2024 23:12Para: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.orgAsunto: RE: descargar versiones anteriores El lunes, 10 de junio de 2024 a las 11:39 AM, Juaan Carrlos Rebate  escribió:No importa que instrucciones seguir, todas están obsoletas, incluyendo la oficial https://www.debian.org/CD/jigdo-cd/ tanto en tus instrucciones como en las oficiales, indica que el paquete jigdo está en los repos, pero no, no está.jc@debian:~$ sudo apt install jigdo-liteNo considero que la documentación esté obsoleta, ya que literalmente indica [0]: "Descargue un paquete que contenga jigdo-lite, que está disponible para instalación directa en las distribuciones Debian y Ubuntu en el paquete jigdo-file."En otras palabras, debes instalar jigdo-file (sudo apt install jigdo-file), ya que es el paquete que contiene el comando jigdo-lite que buscas.[0] https://www.debian.org/CD/jigdo-cd/index.es.htmlSaludos,Disculpad por el HTML, envío el correo desde Windows y no hay forma de eliminar el formato. Fernando, gracias por tu respuesta pero te comento que ni jigdo-file ni lite están en los repos  jc@debian:~$ sudo apt install jigdo-file[sudo] password for jc:Leyendo lista de paquetes... HechoCreando árbol de dependencias... HechoLeyendo la información de estado... HechoE: No se ha podido localizar el paquete jigdo-filejc@debian:~$ apt-cache search jigdojc@debian:~$el sistema está actualizadojc@debian:~$ uname -aLinux debian 5.10.0-30-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 5.10.218-1 (2024-06-01) x86_64 GNU/LinuxLos repos son los que venían con la instalación.


Re: info vs. man (was: Re: date for week)

2024-06-11 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Jun 11, 2024 at 11:22:17PM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote:
> On 11/06/2024 06:45, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > Should you ever feel a need to read the longer version of the
> > documentation, it's in GNU info pages.  So you would need to type
> > the command "info coreutils date" to get to it.  And then you'd need
> > to figure out the user interface of the "info" program, which is not
> > intuitive unless you happen to be an emacs power user already.
> 
> Emacs power users can type
> M-x info RET
> or
> M-: (info "(coreutils) date conversion specifiers") RET
> or at least
> emacs -f info-standalone '(coreutils) date conversion specifiers'
> 
> I do not mind that info browsers have usability issues. For beginners I
> would recommend tkinfo instead of terminal "info". I have not tried pinfo.
> 
> Texinfo, unlike man, has a notion of hyperlink. In the case of man it is
> just formatting that suggests that some part of text is a reference to
> another document or another section.

See, this is all fine -- you've searched for the appropriate section, and
you've generated a cryptic command that someone else could type inside
emacs to get to that same section.  I'm sure there's an "info" equivalent
that can be done from a shell without invoking emacs.

None of that's useful to a person who wants to search for that information
in the first place without consulting an expert who's already done the
work.

What I was trying to do in my reply was "teach them how to fish" -- to
show them how to bring up the man page themselves, and look for basic
information like "how do I get the name of the day of the week, instead
of the numeric index of the day of the week" without having to bother
an international mailing list.

So, I gave basic instructions for how to bring up the man page, and a
hint about searching for a key word related to their question.  I even
provided a small piece of the man page, which happens to include the
answer they're looking for, because I'm also a pessimist who knows
that they probably won't look it up themselves, and may become angry
if we don't spoon-feed them the actual answer.

I also provided a reference to the info page, and a command that would
bring that up, should the need ever arise.  More importantly, I revealed
that info pages *exist* and *are a thing* that they need to know about.
It's planting a seed for the future.



Re: system won't suspend automatically

2024-06-11 Thread eben

On 6/11/24 12:37, Charles Curley wrote:

On Tue, 11 Jun 2024 10:44:12 -0400
e...@gmx.us wrote:


Well, that is not encouraging.  Does anyone know how to get the
monitor state programmatically?  I'll write my own script based on
that.  DFMS works.  I mean if the computer won't do it for you, roll
your own.


Install arandr, use it to set things up the way you want them. Then
have it emit a suitable script.


OK, no problem.  The script I wrote uses xrandr to do that exact thing.


Call that from XFCE's session manager on startup.


How exactly do I do that, and why would it re-enable suspension?

--
"Cheating is the gift man gives himself." - Mr. Burns, The Simpsons.



Re: system won't suspend automatically

2024-06-11 Thread eben

On 6/11/24 12:27, Max Nikulin wrote:

On 11/06/2024 21:44, e...@gmx.us wrote:

Does anyone know how to get the monitor
state programmatically?


ddccontrol


Thanks.


However I am lost if you need to put your monitor to standby state (or to
turn it off) or you expect suspend to RAM after some period of inactivity or
when lid is closed. In the latter case check power and display settings in
your DE configuration.


I'll probably watch ddcontrol, and if the monitors go into  and
stay there for 30m or an hour, suspend.  Maybe even have it
user-configurable if I feel frisky.  Maybe even do what it's _supposed_ to
do, but you gotta pay extra for that.




Re: system won't suspend automatically

2024-06-11 Thread Charles Curley
On Tue, 11 Jun 2024 10:44:12 -0400
e...@gmx.us wrote:

> Well, that is not encouraging.  Does anyone know how to get the
> monitor state programmatically?  I'll write my own script based on
> that.  DFMS works.  I mean if the computer won't do it for you, roll
> your own.

Install arandr, use it to set things up the way you want them. Then
have it emit a suitable script. Call that from XFCE's session manager
on startup.

-- 
Does anybody read signatures any more?

https://charlescurley.com
https://charlescurley.com/blog/



Re: system won't suspend automatically

2024-06-11 Thread Max Nikulin

On 11/06/2024 21:44, e...@gmx.us wrote:

Does anyone know how to get the monitor
state programmatically?


ddccontrol

However I am lost if you need to put your monitor to standby state (or 
to turn it off) or you expect suspend to RAM after some period of 
inactivity or when lid is closed. In the latter case check power and 
display settings in your DE configuration.




info vs. man (was: Re: date for week)

2024-06-11 Thread Max Nikulin

On 11/06/2024 06:45, Greg Wooledge wrote:

Should you ever feel a need to read the longer version of the
documentation, it's in GNU info pages.  So you would need to type
the command "info coreutils date" to get to it.  And then you'd need
to figure out the user interface of the "info" program, which is not
intuitive unless you happen to be an emacs power user already.


Emacs power users can type
M-x info RET
or
M-: (info "(coreutils) date conversion specifiers") RET
or at least
emacs -f info-standalone '(coreutils) date conversion specifiers'

I do not mind that info browsers have usability issues. For beginners I 
would recommend tkinfo instead of terminal "info". I have not tried pinfo.


Texinfo, unlike man, has a notion of hyperlink. In the case of man it is 
just formatting that suggests that some part of text is a reference to 
another document or another section. It was created for "online" version 
of printed manuals. Info is more convenient for navigation in long 
document and makes it easier to specify a particular section. In the 
case of man it requires some tricks like


man -P 'less -p %a' date



Re: [OT] Re: LibreOffice - Thunderbird - Windows 10

2024-06-11 Thread Camaleón
El 2024-06-11 a las 08:50 -0300, Javier ArgentinaBBAR escribió:

(corrijo el top-posting)

> El mié, 29 may 2024 a las 14:23, Camaleón () escribió:
> >
> > El 2024-05-29 a las 09:45 -0300, Javier ArgentinaBBAR escribió:
> >
> > (...)
> >
> > > Me explico:
> > > Creo un documento en LibreOffice Calc o Writer, y cuando pico Archivo,
> > > Enviar, Enviar documento por correo, el maldito abre Outlook y no
> > > Thunderbird.
> >
> > (...)
> >
> > Preguntonta...
> >
> > ¿Has probado a definir manualmente la ruta al ejecutable de la aplicación
> > (Thunderbird)?
> >
> > 
> > https://help.libreoffice.org/24.2/en-US/text/shared/guide/email.html
> >
> > Sending Documents as Email
> >
> > Working in LibreOffice, you can send the current document as an email
> > attachment.
> >
> > Choose File - Send - Email Document.
> >
> > LibreOffice opens your default email program. If you want to send
> > the current document with another email program, you can select the
> > program to use with Internet - Email in the Options dialog box.
> >
> > In your email program, enter the recipient, subject and any text
> > you want to add, then send the email.
> >
> > 
> >
> > Nota: a veces, volver a instalar la aplicación (Thunderbird) soluciona
> > el problema «mágicamente» debido a que, al ser la última que registra
> > el SO (y más concretamete en Windows), la «predetermina», por así decir.
> >
> > Saludos,

> Buen día.
> 
> Vuelvo a la carga.
> En un Debian, tengo exactamente la misma versión de LibreOffice que en
> Windows, 24.2.3.2.
> En Debian, en "Opciones", "Internet", entre "Proxy" y "Media wiki" hay
> una opción "Correo electrónico", que en la versión Windows, brilla por
> su ausencia.
> En la guía de Libre Office
> https://documentation.libreoffice.org/assets/Uploads/Documentation/es/GS62/PDF/GS6202-ConfigurarLibreOffice.pdf
> página 31, figura 29 se puede ver.
> A continuación dice " En Windows se usa el programa predeterminado
> para el envío de correo electrónico del sistema operativo."
> Lo cual, a todas luces, no funciona.
> 
> Si alguien tiene alguna idea de dónde escarbar en el registro, que es
> donde huelo que está el problema, se agradece la ayuda.

Si en Windows LO depende de la aplicación predeterminada en el sistema, 
sólo se me ocurre que Outlook esté fagocitando a Thundebird respecto a 
la configuración del soporte MAPI, de ahí que LO le dé preferencia.

Revisa esta KB por si te diera alguna pista:

MAPI Support
http://kb.mozillazine.org/MAPI_Support

Saludos,

-- 
Camaleón 



[OT] - Software para leer data loggers

2024-06-11 Thread Jorge Abel Secreto
Hola!!
Disculpen que moleste con esto.
Estoy tratando de leer los registros de un data logger de temperaturas
TESTO 174T desde Debian 12.
El sistema lo ve asi:
usb 1-3: new full-speed USB device number 4 using xhci_hcd
usb 1-3: New USB device found, idVendor=128d, idProduct=0013, bcdDevice= 6.00
usb 1-3: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=0
usb 1-3: Product: testo 174-2010
usb 1-3: Manufacturer: Testo SE & Co. KGaA
El fabricante provee un programa para Windows pero me gustaría poder
hacerlo desde Linux.
Las busquedas por "linux data logger testo 174" me traen referencias a
la página oficial o a paginas de vendedores del aparato.
Buscando en Synaptic no encuentro nada que parezca servir.
¿Estoy buscando mal?
¿Alguno de ustedes usa algo que me pueda servir?
Muchas gracias por su atención.
Abrazos

-- 
Jorge A Secreto
Analista de Sistemas
MP 361



Re: Comment retrouver une IP privée perdue ?

2024-06-11 Thread didier gaumet



(répétition préalable: j'y connais rien)

de ce que je comprends de la page man de nmap et de sa description 
wikipedia, nmap peut utiliser une découverte ARP (option -PR pour l'IPv4 
ça doit être une autre option pour l'équiavlent d'ARP en IPv6, je 
suppose), mais son fonctionnement par défaut est le balayage de ports 
donc l'explication wikipedia est là:

https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balayage_de_ports

donc si je comprends correctement (c'est loin d'être certain, je suis 
truffe niveau jeux olympiques là-dessus), spécifier un seul port à 
scanner devrait accélérer sensiblement le processus puisque par défaut 
le bouzin balaie toute une population de ports connus pour les services 
qu'ils offrent.


Mais bon, franchement, je cause de tout ça alors que j'y connais que 
dalle ;-)






Re: system won't suspend automatically

2024-06-11 Thread eben

On 6/10/24 21:11, Ralph Katz wrote:

On 6/10/24 13:05, Eben King wrote:

Hi, I have a Debian 12 (Bookworm?) installation with XFCE as my DE.

[...]

and it still doesn't suspend over night.  Suspend works just fine when I go
to log out and hit the suspend button.   I don't see any obvious errors in
journalctl.  Where can I go to debug suspend?  Thanks.


I also have bookworm, XFCE and a suspend issue.  Dell laptop suspends on lid
close, but with an attached monitor, it does not suspend on lid close.

As a workaround, I use a keyboard shortcut to suspend.  Closing then opening
the lid wakes it up.

I'm eager to see how you resolve this.  If you file a bug, please post the
number so I can add my case.


Well, that is not encouraging.  Does anyone know how to get the monitor
state programmatically?  I'll write my own script based on that.  DFMS
works.  I mean if the computer won't do it for you, roll your own.

--
The best answer when anybody asks you
if you're any good with explosives
is to hold up two open hands
and simply say "Ten". -- Anthony DeBoer on ASR



Re: Comment retrouver une IP privée perdue ?

2024-06-11 Thread Olivier
L'option -p443 est à essayer.

Je pense toutefois que pour atteindre une machine, le programme de
balayage doit au minimum utiliser ARP pour connaître l'adresse MAC de
la machine.
Je me demande si pour gagner du temps, il est possible de se limiter à
cette seule interrogation ARP: le programme demande qui possède l'IP
192.168.X.Y et les loggue les réponses s'il y en a.

En survolant la doc de nmap, j'ai trouvé une référence à l'ARP mais je
n'ai pas encore eu le temps de la creuser.
Beaucoup des exemples de la doc de nmap font référence à un balayage
de machines sur Internet.
Dans ce cas, on a affaire à des machines qui sont très diversement
configurées, certaines par exemple, ne répondant pas aux pings par
choix de leur administrateur.
De ce fait, il est nécessaire d'avoir un balayage qui utilise
plusieurs techniques de détection.

Dans mon cas, toutes les machines répondent aux pings par exemple sans
firewall entre elles et la machine qui balaye le réseau, avec une
bonne bande passante.
Une méthode unique de détection devrait suffire quand il s'agit
simplement de retrouver une plage d'IP oubliée.

Le mar. 11 juin 2024 à 14:59, didier gaumet  a écrit :
>
> Le 11/06/2024 à 14:14, Olivier a écrit :
> [...]
> > for i in $(seq 0 255); do
> > sudo ip addr add 192.168.$i.2/24 dev eth0
> > sudo nmap -sn 192.168.$i.0/24
> > sudo ip addr add 192.168.$i.2/24 dev eth0
> > done
> [...]
>
> avertissement habituel: je suis une truffe en réseaux, nmap? jamais
> utilisé. Donc ce qui suit est à considérer avec prudence
>
> puisque tu es sûr que la machine que tu cherches a son port 443 ouvert,
> pourquoi ne pas spécifier l'option -p443 qui devrait, si j'ai compris
> correctement la page man, réduire la recherche au port 443 à l'exclusion
> des autres?
>
>



Re: Comment retrouver une IP privée perdue ?

2024-06-11 Thread didier gaumet

Le 11/06/2024 à 14:14, Olivier a écrit :
[...]

for i in $(seq 0 255); do
sudo ip addr add 192.168.$i.2/24 dev eth0
sudo nmap -sn 192.168.$i.0/24
sudo ip addr add 192.168.$i.2/24 dev eth0
done

[...]

avertissement habituel: je suis une truffe en réseaux, nmap? jamais 
utilisé. Donc ce qui suit est à considérer avec prudence


puisque tu es sûr que la machine que tu cherches a son port 443 ouvert, 
pourquoi ne pas spécifier l'option -p443 qui devrait, si j'ai compris 
correctement la page man, réduire la recherche au port 443 à l'exclusion 
des autres?





Re: Comment retrouver une IP privée perdue ?

2024-06-11 Thread Erwan David

Le 11/06/2024 à 14:14, Olivier a écrit :

Pris par le temps, j'ai utilisé nmap avec une commande comme ci-après
pour balayer la plage 192.168.0.0/16 et le début de 172.16.0.0/12.
Le script met environ 8s pour chaque itération sur un réseau en /24.

for i in $(seq 0 255); do
sudo ip addr add 192.168.$i.2/24 dev eth0
sudo nmap -sn 192.168.$i.0/24
sudo ip addr add 192.168.$i.2/24 dev eth0
done

Je recherche toujours un moyen pour réduire ce temps de balayage (dont
je n'ose imaginer le temps d'exécution sur le réseau 10.0.0.0/8)
quitte a prendre des hypothèses simplificatrices comme la présence
d'une appli web de management sur le port 443.

J'ai découvert l'existence d'outils comme Angry IP ou masscan mais je
n'ai pas eu le temps de les tester.

@Basile
Un reset est effectivement une excellent idée pour récupérer une
adresse par défaut et s'éviter un balayage.
Dans mon cas, les équipements sont difficiles d'accès, en haut d'un mat.



J'utilise en général un fping -ag  on peut affiner avec un -q ou 
un -c 1


Si ce sont des devices qui ne répondent pas au ping, on peut regarder la 
table arp après ou faire une boucle avec des arping (si le device ne 
répond pas à un ARP WHO HAS, alors de toute façon il est injoignable)



--
Erwan David



Re: Comment retrouver une IP privée perdue ?

2024-06-11 Thread Olivier
Pris par le temps, j'ai utilisé nmap avec une commande comme ci-après
pour balayer la plage 192.168.0.0/16 et le début de 172.16.0.0/12.
Le script met environ 8s pour chaque itération sur un réseau en /24.

for i in $(seq 0 255); do
sudo ip addr add 192.168.$i.2/24 dev eth0
sudo nmap -sn 192.168.$i.0/24
sudo ip addr add 192.168.$i.2/24 dev eth0
done

Je recherche toujours un moyen pour réduire ce temps de balayage (dont
je n'ose imaginer le temps d'exécution sur le réseau 10.0.0.0/8)
quitte a prendre des hypothèses simplificatrices comme la présence
d'une appli web de management sur le port 443.

J'ai découvert l'existence d'outils comme Angry IP ou masscan mais je
n'ai pas eu le temps de les tester.

@Basile
Un reset est effectivement une excellent idée pour récupérer une
adresse par défaut et s'éviter un balayage.
Dans mon cas, les équipements sont difficiles d'accès, en haut d'un mat.

Le mar. 11 juin 2024 à 10:05, David P.  a écrit :
>
> Bonjour,
>
> J'utilise Wireshark et un câble croisé pour ce genre de problème à condition 
> que le dispositif soit à la portée de la main !
> En effet, je redémarre ce dispositif après d'avoir raccordé le câble et lancé 
> Wireshark sur le port ethernet où est branché le câble (pas d'autres LAN 
> activés !)
>
> Bon courage pour la suite,
> Librement,
> David P.
>
> Télécharger BlueMail pour Android
> Le 10 juin 2024, à 14:28, Olivier  a écrit:
>>
>> Bonjour,
>>
>> Sur un réseau, j'ai un appareil dont j'ai perdu l'IPv4 privée
>> (rfc1918) de gestion. J'ignore aussi l'adresse du réseau, un /24
>> probablement, dans lequel j'avais choisi cette adresse.
>>
>> Je suis certain que l'appareil a une appli web de gestion qui écoute
>> sur le port 443.
>> Je n'ai pas communiqué avec cet appareil depuis des mois.
>> J'utilise souvent nmap pour scanner des réseaux de petite taille mais
>> ici la plage à balayer est immense.
>>
>> Comment déterminer le plus vite possible l'adresse de gestion de mon 
>> appareil ?
>>
>> Slts
>>



Re: [OT] Re: LibreOffice - Thunderbird - Windows 10

2024-06-11 Thread Javier ArgentinaBBAR
Buen día.

Vuelvo a la carga.
En un Debian, tengo exactamente la misma versión de LibreOffice que en
Windows, 24.2.3.2.
En Debian, en "Opciones", "Internet", entre "Proxy" y "Media wiki" hay
una opción "Correo electrónico", que en la versión Windows, brilla por
su ausencia.
En la guía de Libre Office
https://documentation.libreoffice.org/assets/Uploads/Documentation/es/GS62/PDF/GS6202-ConfigurarLibreOffice.pdf
página 31, figura 29 se puede ver.
A continuación dice " En Windows se usa el programa predeterminado
para el envío de correo electrónico del sistema operativo."
Lo cual, a todas luces, no funciona.

Si alguien tiene alguna idea de dónde escarbar en el registro, que es
donde huelo que está el problema, se agradece la ayuda.

Saludos a todos

JAP


El mié, 29 may 2024 a las 14:23, Camaleón () escribió:
>
> El 2024-05-29 a las 09:45 -0300, Javier ArgentinaBBAR escribió:
>
> (...)
>
> > Me explico:
> > Creo un documento en LibreOffice Calc o Writer, y cuando pico Archivo,
> > Enviar, Enviar documento por correo, el maldito abre Outlook y no
> > Thunderbird.
>
> (...)
>
> Preguntonta...
>
> ¿Has probado a definir manualmente la ruta al ejecutable de la aplicación
> (Thunderbird)?
>
> 
> https://help.libreoffice.org/24.2/en-US/text/shared/guide/email.html
>
> Sending Documents as Email
>
> Working in LibreOffice, you can send the current document as an email
> attachment.
>
> Choose File - Send - Email Document.
>
> LibreOffice opens your default email program. If you want to send
> the current document with another email program, you can select the
> program to use with Internet - Email in the Options dialog box.
>
> In your email program, enter the recipient, subject and any text
> you want to add, then send the email.
>
> 
>
> Nota: a veces, volver a instalar la aplicación (Thunderbird) soluciona
> el problema «mágicamente» debido a que, al ser la última que registra
> el SO (y más concretamete en Windows), la «predetermina», por así decir.
>
> Saludos,
>
> --
> Camaleón
>



Microsoft Teams werkt met Chromium

2024-06-11 Thread Paul van der Vlis

Hoi,

Er zijn van die organisaties die eisen dat je een bepaald systeem 
gebruikt voor videocalls...


Het valt me op dat Microsoft Teams tegenwoordig werkt met Chromium. 
Eerder functioneerde dat niet (wel met Chrome, niet met Chromium).


Met Firefox ESR werkte het (nog?) niet, ik krijg daar een melding dat ik 
een plugin moet installeren, maar het is niet duidelijk welke. Tijdens 
testen drukte ik een paar keer op de "terug" toets en toen leek het te 
werken. Ze zeggen dat ze alleen de laatste 3 versies ondersteunen, 
wellicht valt Firefox ESR daar niet onder. Maar wellicht werkt het wel 
als je de gewone Firefox download...


Weet iemand misschien wat de status van Zoom is? Kun je daar werken met 
alleen een open source browser als je een uitnodiging krijgt, of moet je 
perse hun software installeren?


Google hangouts werkt prima met elke browser, voor zover ik weet, zelf 
gebruik ik bij voorkeur Jitsi Meet.


Groet,
Paul


--
Paul van der Vlis Linux systeembeheer Groningen
https://vandervlis.nl/



Re: Comment retrouver une IP privée perdue ?

2024-06-11 Thread David P.
Bonjour,

J'utilise Wireshark et un câble croisé pour ce genre de problème à condition 
que le dispositif soit à la portée de la main !
En effet, je redémarre ce dispositif après d'avoir raccordé le câble et lancé 
Wireshark sur le port ethernet où est branché le câble (pas d'autres LAN 
activés !)

Bon courage pour la suite,
Librement,
David P.

⁣Télécharger BlueMail pour Android ​

Le 10 juin 2024 à 14:28, à 14:28, Olivier  a écrit:
>Bonjour,
>
>Sur un réseau, j'ai un appareil dont j'ai perdu l'IPv4 privée
>(rfc1918) de gestion. J'ignore aussi l'adresse du réseau, un /24
>probablement, dans lequel j'avais choisi cette adresse.
>
>Je suis certain que l'appareil a une appli web de gestion qui écoute
>sur le port 443.
>Je n'ai pas communiqué avec cet appareil depuis des mois.
>J'utilise souvent nmap pour scanner des réseaux de petite taille mais
>ici la plage à balayer est immense.
>
>Comment déterminer le plus vite possible l'adresse de gestion de mon
>appareil ?
>
>Slts


Re: descargar versiones anteriores

2024-06-11 Thread Camaleón
El 2024-06-10 a las 19:39 +0200, Juaan Carrlos Rebate escribió:

(elimino el formato html...)

> Hola Camaleón
>
> No importa que instrucciones seguir, todas están obsoletas, incluyendo 
> la oficial https://www.debian.org/CD/jigdo-cd/ tanto en tus 
> instrucciones como en las oficiales, indica que el paquete jigdo está 
> en los repos, pero no, no está.

(...) 

A esto ya te ha respondido Fernando :-)

> está pero no me gusta usarlo. En la web oficial
>
> https://www.einval.com/~steve/software/jigdo/download/ está su fuente y 
> una versión para Windows. Al usar la versión de Windows obtengo lo 
> siguiente

(...)

Instala el paquete de Debian y sigue las instrucciones «obsoletas¹» para 
CONFIGURAR Jigdo ANTES de ejecutarlo.

Y manda la salida de todas las órdenes que ejecutes para que veamos el 
resultado.

¹Normalmente, lo «viejo» resulta mil veces más fiable (y más preciso) 
que las instrucciones «nuevas» escritas por twiteros amantes de los 
140 caracteres >:-)

Saludos,

-- 
Camaleón 



Re: system won't suspend automatically

2024-06-10 Thread David Wright
Entire attribution and quote removed to avoid the mailing list
treating this post as spam.

Yes, but I don't know enough about modern monitor connections to know
whether the monitor being on will inhibit the system from suspending.

The docs for XFCE talk about preventing inconsistent configuration
timings of the several modes, but I don't know (not using XFCE)
how far this is carried between display management and system power
management, or between the kernel's, X's, and XFCE's controls.

Sorry not to be more help.

Cheers,
David.



Re: system won't suspend automatically

2024-06-10 Thread Ralph Katz

On 6/10/24 13:05, Eben King wrote:
Hi, I have a Debian 12 (Bookworm?) installation with XFCE as my DE.  

[...]

and it still doesn't suspend over night.  Suspend works just fine when I go
to log out and hit the suspend button.   I don't see any obvious errors in
journalctl.  Where can I go to debug suspend?  Thanks.


I also have bookworm, XFCE and a suspend issue.  Dell laptop suspends on 
lid close, but with an attached monitor, it does not suspend on lid close.


As a workaround, I use a keyboard shortcut to suspend.  Closing then 
opening the lid wakes it up.


I'm eager to see how you resolve this.  If you file a bug, please post 
the number so I can add my case.


Regards,
Ralph




Re: date for week

2024-06-10 Thread Jeff Peng



thanks roberto. that's exactly what i am looking for.



$ date +%a




Re: date for week

2024-06-10 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Jun 11, 2024 at 07:19:42AM +0800, Jeff Peng wrote:
> While I expect the output should be:
> 
> $ date +%such_a_option
> Tuesday
> 
> or
> $ date +%such_a_option
> Tue
> 
> does date command has this option?

You can run the command "man date" to read the short version of the
documentation.  This will include the information you wanted.  Search
for "week" and it takes you right there:

   %a locale's abbreviated weekday name (e.g., Sun)

   %A locale's full weekday name (e.g., Sunday)

   %b locale's abbreviated month name (e.g., Jan)

   %B locale's full month name (e.g., January)

   %c locale's date and time (e.g., Thu Mar  3 23:05:25 2005)

Should you ever feel a need to read the longer version of the
documentation, it's in GNU info pages.  So you would need to type
the command "info coreutils date" to get to it.  And then you'd need
to figure out the user interface of the "info" program, which is not
intuitive unless you happen to be an emacs power user already.



Re: date for week

2024-06-10 Thread rtnetz...@windstream.net
All the format codes are documented in the man page for date.
in particular:

+%a gives a short form, such as Mon
+%A gives full name, e.g. Monday 
+%^a and +%^A as above, but all capital letters.

- Original Message -
From: "Jeff Peng" 
To: "debian-user" 


> While I expect the output should be:

> $ date +%such_a_option
> Tuesday

> or
> $ date +%such_a_option
> Tue

> does date command has this option?

Yes, see above.

-- 
Bob Netzlof a/k/a Sweet Old Bob



Re: date for week

2024-06-10 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Tue, Jun 11, 2024 at 07:19:42AM +0800, Jeff Peng wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I run the folllowing command,
> 
> $ date +%w
> 2
> 
> 
> While I expect the output should be:
> 
> $ date +%such_a_option
> Tuesday
> 
> or
> $ date +%such_a_option
> Tue
> 
> does date command has this option?
> 
> Thanks.
> 

You probably want:

$ date +%a
Mon
$ date +%A
Monday

-- 
Roberto C. Sánchez



date for week

2024-06-10 Thread Jeff Peng

Hello,

I run the folllowing command,

$ date +%w
2


While I expect the output should be:

$ date +%such_a_option
Tuesday

or
$ date +%such_a_option
Tue

does date command has this option?

Thanks.



Re: system won't suspend automatically

2024-06-10 Thread eben

On 6/10/24 16:51, David Wright wrote:
> On Mon 10 Jun 2024 at 15:05:23 (-0400), Eben King wrote:
>> Hi, I have a Debian 12 (Bookworm?) installation with XFCE as my DE.  I have
>> three monitors, the left one is rotated CW so it's tall, and because lightdm
>> can't seem to get that or the monitor positions correct I wrote a script
>> that calls xrandr to set things up.
>>
>> I thought the errors from the monitor setup script (before I fixed it) were
>> what was keeping the system from suspending.  But now I've fixed the errors
>> and it still doesn't suspend over night.  Suspend works just fine when I go
>> to log out and hit the suspend button.   I don't see any obvious errors in
>> journalctl.  Where can I go to debug suspend?  Thanks.
>
> Does xset -q show you anything like below?
>
>$ xset -q
>Keyboard Control:...


eben@cerberus:~$ xset -q
Keyboard Control:
  auto repeat:  onkey click percent:  0LED mask:  2002
  XKB indicators:
00: Caps Lock:   off01: Num Lock:on 02: Scroll Lock: off
03: Compose: off04: Kana:off05: Sleep:   off
06: Suspend: off07: Mute:off08: Misc:off
09: Mail:off10: Charging:off11: Shift Lock:  off
12: Group 2: off13: Mouse Keys:  on
  auto repeat delay:  500repeat rate:  20
  auto repeating keys:  00ffdbbf
fadfffefffed
9fff
fff7
  bell percent:  50bell pitch:  400bell duration:  100
Pointer Control:
  acceleration:  2/1threshold:  4
Screen Saver:
  prefer blanking:  yesallow exposures:  yes
  timeout:  0cycle:  600
Colors:
  default colormap:  0x20BlackPixel:  0x0WhitePixel:  0xff
Font Path:

/usr/share/fonts/X11/misc,/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi/:unscaled,/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi/:unscaled,/usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1,/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi,/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi,built-ins
DPMS (Energy Star):
  Standby: 1200Suspend: 0Off: 1800
  DPMS is Enabled
  Monitor is On

Like that, yes.  What am I looking for?  The DPMS stuff is just for
monitors, correct?

>> Thou shalt keep thine tongue prosperous, and thy mind numb. -Lusers 4:9
>
> Thy tongue.

This is correct.  I'll change it, and note the change.

Dang, it's too easy to just do ^R and not hit "reply list".  Maybe there's a
key command.  I'll look into that.

--
"The reason that the American Army does so well, is that war is chaos,
and the American Army practices chaos on a daily basis."
 -Nazi German Officer



Re: system won't suspend automatically

2024-06-10 Thread David Wright
On Mon 10 Jun 2024 at 15:05:23 (-0400), Eben King wrote:
> Hi, I have a Debian 12 (Bookworm?) installation with XFCE as my DE.  I have
> three monitors, the left one is rotated CW so it's tall, and because lightdm
> can't seem to get that or the monitor positions correct I wrote a script
> that calls xrandr to set things up.
> 
> I thought the errors from the monitor setup script (before I fixed it) were
> what was keeping the system from suspending.  But now I've fixed the errors
> and it still doesn't suspend over night.  Suspend works just fine when I go
> to log out and hit the suspend button.   I don't see any obvious errors in
> journalctl.  Where can I go to debug suspend?  Thanks.

Does xset -q show you anything like below?

  $ xset -q
  Keyboard Control:
auto repeat:  onkey click percent:  0LED mask:  
XKB indicators:
  00: Caps Lock:   off01: Num Lock:off02: Scroll Lock: off
  03: Compose: off04: Kana:off05: Sleep:   off
  06: Suspend: off07: Mute:off08: Misc:off
  09: Mail:off10: Charging:off11: Shift Lock:  off
  12: Group 2: off13: Mouse Keys:  off
auto repeat delay:  660repeat rate:  25
auto repeating keys:  00ffdbbf
  fedfffefffed
  9fff
  fff7
bell percent:  50bell pitch:  400bell duration:  100
  Pointer Control:
acceleration:  2/1threshold:  4
  Screen Saver:
prefer blanking:  yesallow exposures:  yes
timeout:  1000cycle:  1000
  Colors:
default colormap:  0x20BlackPixel:  0x0WhitePixel:  0xff
  Font Path:

/usr/share/fonts/X11/misc,/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi/:unscaled,/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi/:unscaled,/usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1,/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi,/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi,built-ins
  DPMS (Energy Star):
Standby: 1000Suspend: 1000Off: 1000
DPMS is Enabled
Monitor is On
  $ 

> Thou shalt keep thine tongue prosperous, and thy mind numb. -Lusers 4:9

Thy tongue.

Cheers,
David.



system won't suspend automatically

2024-06-10 Thread Eben King

Hi, I have a Debian 12 (Bookworm?) installation with XFCE as my DE.  I have
three monitors, the left one is rotated CW so it's tall, and because lightdm
can't seem to get that or the monitor positions correct I wrote a script
that calls xrandr to set things up.

I thought the errors from the monitor setup script (before I fixed it) were
what was keeping the system from suspending.  But now I've fixed the errors
and it still doesn't suspend over night.  Suspend works just fine when I go
to log out and hit the suspend button.   I don't see any obvious errors in
journalctl.  Where can I go to debug suspend?  Thanks.

--
Thou shalt keep thine tongue prosperous, and thy mind numb. -Lusers 4:9
And if thy head doth leave thine own arse, thou shalt shove it back in.
For in such a way does it keep thy minimal knowledge from leaving thine
own head. -- Lusers 4:10-11 (ItsDragoniteBitches and mephron on Reddit)



RE: descargar versiones anteriores

2024-06-10 Thread Fernando C. Estrada
El lunes, 10 de junio de 2024 a las 11:39 AM, Juaan Carrlos Rebate 
 escribió:

> No importa que instrucciones seguir, todas están obsoletas, incluyendo la 
> oficial https://www.debian.org/CD/jigdo-cd/ tanto en tus instrucciones como 
> en las oficiales, indica que el paquete jigdo está en los repos, pero no, no 
> está.
>
> jc@debian:~$ sudo apt install jigdo-lite

No considero que la documentación esté obsoleta, ya que literalmente indica 
[0]: "Descargue un paquete que contenga jigdo-lite, que está disponible para 
instalación directa en las distribuciones Debian y Ubuntu en el paquete 
jigdo-file."

En otras palabras, debes instalar jigdo-file (sudo apt install jigdo-file), ya 
que es el paquete que contiene el comando jigdo-lite que buscas.

[0] https://www.debian.org/CD/jigdo-cd/index.es.html

Saludos,

>

Re: Comment retrouver une IP privée perdue ?

2024-06-10 Thread Raphaël POITEVIN
Bonsoir,

Olivier  writes:

> Sur un réseau, j'ai un appareil dont j'ai perdu l'IPv4 privée
> (rfc1918) de gestion. J'ignore aussi l'adresse du réseau, un /24
> probablement, dans lequel j'avais choisi cette adresse.
>
> Je suis certain que l'appareil a une appli web de gestion qui écoute
> sur le port 443.
> Je n'ai pas communiqué avec cet appareil depuis des mois.
> J'utilise souvent nmap pour scanner des réseaux de petite taille mais
> ici la plage à balayer est immense.
>
> Comment déterminer le plus vite possible l'adresse de gestion de mon
> appareil ?

Peut-être :
nmap -sn 192.168.1.0/24 par exemple.
-- 
Raphaël



Re: NVidia 340 video driver in Bookworm?

2024-06-10 Thread Van Snyder
Hans:

Thanks for the note. It seems that nouveau is a bit more stable in
Debian 12.5 than it had been in Debian 10.1. At least I hope it is. So
far, it hasn't crashed.

MfG,
Van

On Mon, 2024-06-10 at 10:11 +0200, Hans wrote:
> No, the NV6800M needs 340xx driver, not 390xx as I prior posted. However, I 
> have a GF-119 in my Lenovo T520, where nvidia-detect says, it needs 340xx. 
> But, although I got 340xx compiled for the kernel, it did not start.
> 
> I then build 390xx, which worked like a charm. This happened on my notebook 
> and also on an older graphics card in my desktop pc (forgot, which graphic 
> chip it was).
> 
> The 340xx I never got compiled in bookworm, even when downloaded the sources 
> from bullseye and downgraded compiler and other things (except of kernel).
> 
> The issue: During build, the nvidia-sources were looking for some files, 
> which 
> were no more existent in the kernel headers since that version. So the build 
> failed. 
> 
> I asked the developers of the kernel headers, to fix this, but they claimed, 
> that NVidia has to fix it, not the developers. 
> 
> One can now argument for both sides. 
> 
> 1. Either tell Nvidia, "hey fix your old drivers to our new headers, we 
> removed some libs!"
> 
> or 
> 
> 2. Tell the developers "Hey, please put back the libs, so that the kernel 
> module of this old driver can be build again!"
> 
> In real life no one wants to care of it! Nvidia not, because this costs money 
> and the developers not, because this is Nvidia and proprietrary (what is not 
> quite correct, because the kernel-module, which is the part, that can not be 
> build, is open-source).
> 
> 
> Before you try: It is also not possible, to download the driver from the 
> NVidia site directly, because you will run into the same issue again: It can 
> not be build!
> 
> Personally I can not understand, why this is not beeing fixed. It is not a 
> problem with the kernel-module itself (I mean, no bug in the function), but 
> it 
> just can not be build. This is the least, I would expect! However, this is 
> just my own very personal Opinion and no one shall be feel blamed here with!
> 
> Hope, this makes a little bit clearer.
> 
> Oh, and of course, modern cards supported by 470 and higher, of course this 
> can be build! But they do not support older cards (legacy cards).
> 
> Best
> 
> Hans
> > Did the 470 driver work for the GeForce 8600M? I tried to install the
> > 390 driver, but it said "This driver will ignore your GPU" so I didn't
> > finish the installation.
> 
> 
> 
> 


Re: NVidia 340 video driver in Bookworm?

2024-06-10 Thread Stefan Monnier
> In real life no one wants to care of it! Nvidia not, because this
> costs money  and the developers not, because this is Nvidia and
> proprietrary (what is not  quite correct, because the kernel-module,
> which is the part, that can not be  build, is open-source).

Since you say it's "open source", then "anyone" should be allowed to
update the code to adapt to the new kernel code.  IOW *you* can fix it,
or if you don't have the time/energy you may be able to find someone
else to fix it (potentially paying them for it).


Stefan



Re: Comment retrouver une IP privée perdue ?

2024-06-10 Thread Erwan David

Le 10/06/2024 à 14:27, Olivier a écrit :

Bonjour,

Sur un réseau, j'ai un appareil dont j'ai perdu l'IPv4 privée
(rfc1918) de gestion. J'ignore aussi l'adresse du réseau, un /24
probablement, dans lequel j'avais choisi cette adresse.

Je suis certain que l'appareil a une appli web de gestion qui écoute
sur le port 443.
Je n'ai pas communiqué avec cet appareil depuis des mois.
J'utilise souvent nmap pour scanner des réseaux de petite taille mais
ici la plage à balayer est immense.

Comment déterminer le plus vite possible l'adresse de gestion de mon appareil ?

Slts


Humm une écoute des requêtes ARP sur le réseau physique où la machine 
est branchée ?


--
Erwan David



Comment retrouver une IP privée perdue ?

2024-06-10 Thread Olivier
Bonjour,

Sur un réseau, j'ai un appareil dont j'ai perdu l'IPv4 privée
(rfc1918) de gestion. J'ignore aussi l'adresse du réseau, un /24
probablement, dans lequel j'avais choisi cette adresse.

Je suis certain que l'appareil a une appli web de gestion qui écoute
sur le port 443.
Je n'ai pas communiqué avec cet appareil depuis des mois.
J'utilise souvent nmap pour scanner des réseaux de petite taille mais
ici la plage à balayer est immense.

Comment déterminer le plus vite possible l'adresse de gestion de mon appareil ?

Slts



Re: NVidia 340 video driver in Bookworm?

2024-06-10 Thread Hans
No, the NV6800M needs 340xx driver, not 390xx as I prior posted. However, I 
have a GF-119 in my Lenovo T520, where nvidia-detect says, it needs 340xx. 
But, although I got 340xx compiled for the kernel, it did not start.

I then build 390xx, which worked like a charm. This happened on my notebook 
and also on an older graphics card in my desktop pc (forgot, which graphic 
chip it was).

The 340xx I never got compiled in bookworm, even when downloaded the sources 
from bullseye and downgraded compiler and other things (except of kernel).

The issue: During build, the nvidia-sources were looking for some files, which 
were no more existent in the kernel headers since that version. So the build 
failed. 

I asked the developers of the kernel headers, to fix this, but they claimed, 
that NVidia has to fix it, not the developers. 

One can now argument for both sides. 

1. Either tell Nvidia, "hey fix your old drivers to our new headers, we 
removed some libs!"

or 

2. Tell the developers "Hey, please put back the libs, so that the kernel 
module of this old driver can be build again!"

In real life no one wants to care of it! Nvidia not, because this costs money 
and the developers not, because this is Nvidia and proprietrary (what is not 
quite correct, because the kernel-module, which is the part, that can not be 
build, is open-source).


Before you try: It is also not possible, to download the driver from the 
NVidia site directly, because you will run into the same issue again: It can 
not be build!

Personally I can not understand, why this is not beeing fixed. It is not a 
problem with the kernel-module itself (I mean, no bug in the function), but it 
just can not be build. This is the least, I would expect! However, this is 
just my own very personal Opinion and no one shall be feel blamed here with!

Hope, this makes a little bit clearer.

Oh, and of course, modern cards supported by 470 and higher, of course this 
can be build! But they do not support older cards (legacy cards).

Best

Hans
> Did the 470 driver work for the GeForce 8600M? I tried to install the
> 390 driver, but it said "This driver will ignore your GPU" so I didn't
> finish the installation.






Re: conversion fichier texte contenant des URL

2024-06-10 Thread Sébastien NOBILI

Bonjour,

Le 2024-06-08 22:57, Bernard Schoenacker a écrit :

J'ai essayé de convertir un fichier texte en pdf
via les opérations suivantes :

- a2ps
- pstopdf


Le résultat n'est pas aussi bien que je le souhaiterais, en
effet les URLs ne sont pas considérés comme des liens, mais
comme un contenu textuel...


Tu peux formater les fichiers en Markdown et utiliser pandoc pour la 
conversion.


Sébastien



Re: descargar versiones anteriores

2024-06-10 Thread Camaleón
El 2024-06-10 a las 04:14 +0200, Juan carlos Rebate escribió:

> hola gente, un saludo.
> una de las cosas que me gustaba de debian es que me permitía bajar
> todas las imágenes DVD para crear replicas propias, pero ahora jigdo
> no me deja, me obliga a bajar la nueva versión de ftp.debian.org, pero
> esta contiene las versiones 12.5 y 11.9, pero busco la 11.0, esa
> versión está supuestamente en
> https://cdimage.debian.org/mirror/cdimage/archive/11.0.0/amd64/jigdo-dvd/.
> me descargo tanto el archivo como la plantilla pero no inicia la
> descarga, me indica que le diga el código de país para seleccionar una
> replica, cuando lo hago, me dice que una copia actualizada está en
> ftp.debian.org, pero como dije esa versión no es la correcta. ¿como le
> obligo a jigdo a bajar la versión que corresponde al fichero?

¿Has seguido los pasos para configurar Jigdo?

https://tldp.org/HOWTO/Debian-Jigdo/downloadingyourfirstimage.html

Manda la salida de la orden que ejecutas, que será algo del tipo:

jigdo-lite bullseye-amd64-1.jigdo

Y/o prueba a usar otro servidor de réplica.

Saludos, 

-- 
Camaleón 



descargar versiones anteriores

2024-06-09 Thread Juan carlos Rebate
hola gente, un saludo.
una de las cosas que me gustaba de debian es que me permitía bajar
todas las imágenes DVD para crear replicas propias, pero ahora jigdo
no me deja, me obliga a bajar la nueva versión de ftp.debian.org, pero
esta contiene las versiones 12.5 y 11.9, pero busco la 11.0, esa
versión está supuestamente en
https://cdimage.debian.org/mirror/cdimage/archive/11.0.0/amd64/jigdo-dvd/.
me descargo tanto el archivo como la plantilla pero no inicia la
descarga, me indica que le diga el código de país para seleccionar una
replica, cuando lo hago, me dice que una copia actualizada está en
ftp.debian.org, pero como dije esa versión no es la correcta. ¿como le
obligo a jigdo a bajar la versión que corresponde al fichero?



Re: NVidia 340 video driver in Bookworm?

2024-06-09 Thread Van Snyder
On Mon, 2024-06-10 at 01:13 +0200, Toni Mas Soler wrote:
> El Fri, 07 Jun 2024 14:56:23 -0700Van Snyder <
> van.sny...@sbcglobal.net> va escriure el següent:
> > On Fri, 2024-06-07 at 22:47 +0200, Hans wrote:
> > > Just a hint: Sometimes the nvidia-config module says, you
> > > need340.xx, but this is not always true. My card (with th
> > > eolderkernel) was running 390.xx, although th esystem told me, I
> > > have touse 340.xx. 390.xx was running like a charm, 340.xx
> > > crashed. So itlied.
> > > Sorry, that I can help no further and for the bad news, but do
> > > nottry too much - I fear, you will fail!  
> > 
> > So far, this is the best advice, so don't apologize.
> > I had assumed that when NVidia said I need 340 that it is
> > undoubtedlytrue. I'll try 390.
> 
> 
> 
> Have you tried "nvidia-detect" package? This tells you what driver
> youneed.
> In my machine, I installed nvdia-tesla-470-driver and it works fine.

Did the 470 driver work for the GeForce 8600M? I tried to install the
390 driver, but it said "This driver will ignore your GPU" so I didn't
finish the installation.




Re: NVidia 340 video driver in Bookworm?

2024-06-09 Thread Toni Mas Soler
El Fri, 07 Jun 2024 14:56:23 -0700
Van Snyder  va escriure el següent:

> On Fri, 2024-06-07 at 22:47 +0200, Hans wrote:
> > Just a hint: Sometimes the nvidia-config module says, you need
> > 340.xx, but this is not always true. My card (with th eolder
> > kernel) was running 390.xx, although th esystem told me, I have to
> > use 340.xx. 390.xx was running like a charm, 340.xx crashed. So it
> > lied.
> > 
> > Sorry, that I can help no further and for the bad news, but do not
> > try too much - I fear, you will fail!  
> 
> So far, this is the best advice, so don't apologize.
> 
> I had assumed that when NVidia said I need 340 that it is undoubtedly
> true. I'll try 390.
> 




Have you tried "nvidia-detect" package? This tells you what driver you
need.

In my machine, I installed nvdia-tesla-470-driver and it works fine.



Chamada para organizadores do Debian Day 2024 no Brasil

2024-06-09 Thread Paulo Henrique de Lima Santana

Olá,

Estamos fazendo uma chamada para pessoas interessadas em organizar o 
Debian Day nas suas cidades para celebrar o 31o aniversário do Projeto 
Debian.


Mais informações:

https://debianbrasil.org.br/blog/debianday-brasil-2024-chamada-de-organizadores/

Abraços,

--
Paulo Henrique de Lima Santana (phls)
Belo Horizonte - Brasil
Debian Developer
Site: http://phls.com.br
GPG ID: 0443C450


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Re: about 10th new install of bullseye

2024-06-09 Thread Tom Dial




On 6/9/24 00:14, gene heskett wrote:

On 6/8/24 19:11, Tom Dial wrote:



On 6/7/24 23:41, gene heskett wrote:

On 6/7/24 20:38, Tom Dial wrote:



On 6/6/24 23:14, gene heskett wrote:

On 6/6/24 19:00, Tom Dial wrote:



On 6/5/24 19:53, gene heskett wrote:

On 6/5/24 17:25, Tom Dial wrote:



On 6/5/24 08:58, gene heskett wrote:

On 6/5/24 02:05, Tom Dial wrote:



On 6/4/24 04:26, gene heskett wrote:

On 2/19/22 06:31, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:

Hi Gene,

If this was someone calling you from a TV station saying they had a TV
transmitter that was varying in power output - you'd have a mental checklist.
You'd get down there, perhaps schedule some sort of power down / reduced
power operation and then you'd check - power supplies, feeder cables, hot
spots on cables - whatever. Divide and conquer- working back to a baseline
of known working conditions and eliminating causes.

My suggestion to you of a reinstall is partly designed to get you out of this
"X happens, I did Y, now I've got Z" - to get to a known initial state.

Take out all the serial converters to UPS, lathe and so on. Wireless keyboard
doesn't present as serial in the same way that brltty does - if it did, I'd
have brltty with every install on this laptop.

Copy off your home directory as you did before - maybe using tar.gz and 
preserving permissions. Start with the .iso that includes firmware - the 
unofficial one.

Build back slowly - do an expert text mode install if you can. Then add your
Trinity desktop - I don't think any of us can help you there, since we don't
run trinity.

Check and you should find that brltty isn't installed at all. Then re-add 
thingsgradually until you have the working system you want. Document it - write 
down
the steps you take / copy configuration files you change.

That will also reveal logging / login slowdowns or whatever caused by
individual devices as you add them back. Keep a list as you go.

That's the counsel of perfection: alternatively:

apt rdepends brltty gives me:

me@mymachine:~$ apt rdepends brltty
brltty
Reverse Depends:
   Suggests: speechd-el (>= 3.7.2)
   Depends: brltty-espeak (= 6.3+dfsg-1+deb11u1)
   Suggests: orca
   Depends: brltty-x11 (= 6.3+dfsg-1+deb11u1)
   Depends: brltty-speechd (= 6.3+dfsg-1+deb11u1)
   Depends: brltty-flite (= 6.3+dfsg-1+deb11u1)

You could try apt-get remove (or equivalent) on each of those packages and
see if that clears it. I _know_ this is frustrating as all get out for you
but a clear approach, written down so that you can remember where you got
to will be very helpful.


Any attempt to remove cura or brltty, removes gnome leaving me I assume with a 
text only system by the time gnome takes all its dependency's with it.  Thanks 
Tom.


Have you actually tried uninstalling brltty only, as a separate action from all 
others?

I have a number of gnome installations, unfortunately for this discussion all 
bookworm. None of them has brltty.

I have a few installations of bullseye and an older stretch installation, but none with gnome 
installed. On all of them, though, "apt-rdepends -r gnome" fails to list brltty as a 
gnome dependency. And on the bookworm systems, simulated installation of gnome ("apt install 
-s gnome") shows brltty as a suggested package only and would not install it along with gnome; 
on the stretch system, gnome installation makes no reference at all to brltty.


While I have both with only the radio buttons for keyboard and rodent plugged 
into usb at install time. I have only one wired keyboard and no wired mice as 
I've had a lightning strike on the pole that serves this house reach up and tap 
me by way of my fingers on the keyboard. Wasn't that much of a tap, I've been 
tapped a lot harder that that, hard enough to trigger a 6 month round of 
shingles and the burns were months healing. And in this case did not damage the 
keyboard or computer, but I did get the message. I've had many strikes on that 
pole since I built a garage on the end of the house, which caused me to install 
a 200 amp service and bring my grounding specs up to NEC. Zero problems since 
then (2008)


Is it possible you have apt settings that automatically pull in suggested 
packages, and that is interfering with attempts to remove brltty? I am not 
expert enough wrt apt and its relatives to know whether that even makes sense, 
and it seems a bit far fetched if maybe barely possible.

Maybe if you post the output from "apt-rdepends -r brltty" and "apt purge --simulate 
brltty" it will be informative.


Neither of those utils are installed. Should they be?


apt should be installed. As far as I know it has been included by default in 
the Debian base system as the preferred command line package management program 
since buster or earlier. I have never had to install it. You probably should if 
it is missing.

apt-rdepends is at least partly redundant with apt.
The command "apt-rdepends -r ", and "apt rdepends " both 
show reverse dependencies of ; the latter also 

Re: about 10th new install of bullseye

2024-06-09 Thread gene heskett

On 6/9/24 08:52, Greg Wooledge wrote:

On Sun, Jun 09, 2024 at 02:14:14AM -0400, gene heskett wrote:

orca is gone, as is gnome. Apt and synaptic refuse to re-install gnome w/o
dragging in orca too. Good night, whats left of it, Tom.


The "gnome" metapackage depends on "orca".  It's a direct dependency.

hobbit:~$ apt-cache show gnome | grep Depends:
Depends: gnome-core (= 1:43+1), desktop-base, libproxy1-plugin-networkmanager, network-manager-gnome (>= 1.8), cheese (>= 3.38), 
file-roller (>= 3.38), gnome-calendar (>= 3.38), gnome-clocks (>= 3.38), gnome-color-manager (>= 3.36), gnome-maps (>= 3.38), 
gnome-music (>= 3.36), shotwell | gnome-photos (>= 3.36), gnome-weather (>= 3.36), orca (>= 3.38), rygel-playbin (>= 0.36), 
rygel-tracker (>= 0.36), simple-scan (>= 3.36), avahi-daemon, evolution (>= 3.36), gnome-sound-recorder, gnome-tweaks (>= 3.30), 
libgsf-bin, libreoffice-gnome, libreoffice-writer, libreoffice-calc, libreoffice-impress, rhythmbox (>= 3.0), seahorse (>= 3.36), 
xdg-user-dirs-gtk, cups-pk-helper (>= 0.2), evolution-plugins (>= 3.36), gstreamer1.0-libav (>= 1.10), gstreamer1.0-plugins-ugly (>= 
1.10), rhythmbox-plugins, rhythmbox-plugin-cdrecorder, totem-plugins

So I ran the above apt-cache show, writing it to /tmp/gnome-deps, then 
removed orca from that list and saved it over itself.


I am freshly rebooted, nothing is running but this tbird and ntpsec as 
this machine is a stratum 3 server to most of the other machines here. 
I have a few bash's running but no local network has been started so the 
system is relatively clean.


So I have a comma separated list of deps w/o orca, in /tmp/gnome-deps. 
whats next?




hobbit:~$ apt-cache show gnome | grep Depends: | grep -oP 'orca.*?,'
orca (>= 3.38),

I've spelled out for you step by step how to build your own replacement
for "gnome" which lacks this dependency.  You've ignored that.

Not totally, but studying the equiv docs (the README) is leaving me 
puzzled.  Your list above, leaving out orca looks like a good starting 
point but is a lot of typing. I just had a lockup & had a 30 second lag 
like launching shotwell gives before the reset button even cleared the 
screen to start the reboot.



Others have suggested steps for disabling/reconfiguring orca without
removing it.  You haven't tried that path either.

That I finally figured out 9 months or so back up the log, so I didn't 
pursue it further.



You just keep repeating the same steps over and over and expecting a
different result.

.

Thanks Greg.

Cheers, Gene Heskett, CET.
--
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
 - Louis D. Brandeis



Re: Thinkpad T14 Gen 5, touchpad not detected

2024-06-09 Thread Stefan Monnier
> I just installed Debian Testing on my new Thinkpad T14 Gen 5 and I found out
> that the touchpad is not actually detected by the system.

Maybe it's the same issue as the one posted very recently under the
subject:

Touchpad not detected by kernel on ThinkPad X13 Gen5


- Stefan



weekly crash

2024-06-09 Thread gene heskett
This lockup was different. System totally froze, clock stopped too while 
scrolling a long message from the coco mailing list using tbird. Gave it 
a 5 second tap on the reset button but the reset was delayed by the 30 
second lag before it cleared the screen and dropped into the bios to 
reboot. Running normally for this system after the reboot.


Data point? DIIK.

Cheers, Gene Heskett, CET.
--
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
 - Louis D. Brandeis



Re: about 10th new install of bullseye

2024-06-09 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sun, Jun 09, 2024 at 02:14:14AM -0400, gene heskett wrote:
> orca is gone, as is gnome. Apt and synaptic refuse to re-install gnome w/o
> dragging in orca too. Good night, whats left of it, Tom.

The "gnome" metapackage depends on "orca".  It's a direct dependency.

hobbit:~$ apt-cache show gnome | grep Depends:
Depends: gnome-core (= 1:43+1), desktop-base, libproxy1-plugin-networkmanager, 
network-manager-gnome (>= 1.8), cheese (>= 3.38), file-roller (>= 3.38), 
gnome-calendar (>= 3.38), gnome-clocks (>= 3.38), gnome-color-manager (>= 
3.36), gnome-maps (>= 3.38), gnome-music (>= 3.36), shotwell | gnome-photos (>= 
3.36), gnome-weather (>= 3.36), orca (>= 3.38), rygel-playbin (>= 0.36), 
rygel-tracker (>= 0.36), simple-scan (>= 3.36), avahi-daemon, evolution (>= 
3.36), gnome-sound-recorder, gnome-tweaks (>= 3.30), libgsf-bin, 
libreoffice-gnome, libreoffice-writer, libreoffice-calc, libreoffice-impress, 
rhythmbox (>= 3.0), seahorse (>= 3.36), xdg-user-dirs-gtk, cups-pk-helper (>= 
0.2), evolution-plugins (>= 3.36), gstreamer1.0-libav (>= 1.10), 
gstreamer1.0-plugins-ugly (>= 1.10), rhythmbox-plugins, 
rhythmbox-plugin-cdrecorder, totem-plugins

hobbit:~$ apt-cache show gnome | grep Depends: | grep -oP 'orca.*?,'
orca (>= 3.38),

I've spelled out for you step by step how to build your own replacement
for "gnome" which lacks this dependency.  You've ignored that.

Others have suggested steps for disabling/reconfiguring orca without
removing it.  You haven't tried that path either.

You just keep repeating the same steps over and over and expecting a
different result.



Re: about 10th new install of bullseye

2024-06-09 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Sun, Jun 09, 2024 at 02:14:14AM -0400, gene heskett wrote:
> On 6/8/24 19:11, Tom Dial wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On your system:
> >      man orca
> >      /usr/share/doc/orca/README
> > 
> > I won't say it's the best documentation I have seen, but it is
> > documentation, and better than some.
> > 
> > 
> > Regards,
> > Tom
> > > .
> > > > 
> 
> Cheers, Gene Heskett, CET.
> -- 

Gene,

Any chance you could cut down extra stuff in the messages?

This was a *very* long message.

At this point, your best option is actually to rebuild, I think.

You can find a .iso file at 
https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/iso-cd/debian-12.5.0-amd64-netinst.iso

Unplug extraneous USB leads except for a mouse or keyboard.

When you boot it up - go for the text mode expert install immediately you
hear the two beeps. If you don't hear the beeps, don't hang around.

Set up your IP address and hostname explicitly so that you know they 
will be reflected when you reboot.

Do NOT install any desktop environment if you want to continue using
TDE. That way you won't install GNOME or orca or anything else.

Reboot - then go from there to install TDE.

There's a sunk cost fallacy - you've invested a bunch of time and effort
but you have an unusable machine. To make it usable, you might well need
to strip it to bare bones and continue from there.

None of us can help you - we don't know what you may have done. Crucially,
_you_ don't know what you may have done and can't / won't take our advice
on how to disable orca
>

All best, as ever,

Andy
(amaca...@debian.org) 



Re: kernel tuning for cloud VM

2024-06-09 Thread Jeff Peng



many java dev ecosystem (such as big data stacks) are in debian 11.
it's hard to upgrade to 12 at this time.

Thanks.


Keep in mind that Debian 11 will be out of oldstable in about a year,
with the release of 13/Trixie; and it will be out of security support
in a few weeks, with the transition to long-term support. Depending on
the complexity of your setup, you may want to start planning the
upgrade process. (I assume that there is some reason why you haven't
yet upgraded to Debian 12.)




Re: kernel tuning for cloud VM

2024-06-09 Thread Michael Kjörling
On 9 Jun 2024 07:41 +0800, from j...@tls-mail.com (Jeff Peng):
> debian 11 installed.

Keep in mind that Debian 11 will be out of oldstable in about a year,
with the release of 13/Trixie; and it will be out of security support
in a few weeks, with the transition to long-term support. Depending on
the complexity of your setup, you may want to start planning the
upgrade process. (I assume that there is some reason why you haven't
yet upgraded to Debian 12.)

-- 
Michael Kjörling  https://michael.kjorling.se
“Remember when, on the Internet, nobody cared that you were a dog?”



Re: conversion fichier texte contenant des URL

2024-06-09 Thread didier gaumet

Le 09/06/2024 à 07:18, Klaus Becker a écrit :

Avec libreoffice ?


Pour compléter la réponse de Klaus, il me semble qu'on avait déjà évoqué 
ça ici (mais j'ai une mémoire défaillante, alors...) et que Unoconv 
(empaqueté dans Debian) permet de faire ça en CLI (en interactif ou dans 
un script). Unoconv est basé sur Libreoffice mais conçu pour une 
utilisation CLI et ne consomme pas autant de ressources que Libreoffice, 
a priori.


Et le développement/maintenance Unoconv semble terminé:
https://github.com/unoconv/unoconv
donc l'équipe Unoconv recommande d'utiliser Unoserver, son remplaçant.
Il n'y a pas de paquet Debian mais ça doit s'installer facilement avec 
pip (empaqueté dans Debian: python3-pip) via la commande:

 $ sudo -H pip install unoserver

pour référence, le site unoserver:
https://github.com/unoconv/unoserver/



Re: Viejito Pc HP no apaga la pantalla

2024-06-09 Thread Camaleón
El 2024-06-06 a las 17:58 -0500, Juan Motorola escribió:

> Buenas tardes/noches

Buenos días :-P

> Un viejito Pc HP no apaga la pantalla.
> Se queda mostrando las últimas líneas del menú con su power-off pero sin
> apagarse como debería ser.
> ¿Cuál será la causa?
> Usamos Debian 11.8
> Muchas gracias.

Buscando el Google veo que hay varios problemas recientes similares.

https://www.google.com/search?q=debian+system+no+power+off

Mira a ver si los mensajes de este hilo te dan alguna idea:

Debian PC does not shutdown after Debian 11 upgrade [Solved]
https://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=150438

Saludos,

-- 
Camaleón 



Re: kernel tuning for cloud VM

2024-06-09 Thread Geert Stappers
On Sun, Jun 09, 2024 at 06:58:21AM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 09, 2024 at 07:41:58AM +0800, Jeff Peng wrote:
> > Hello
> > 
> > I am using the VMs from big providers such as AWS and Azure.
> 
> I'd ask AWS/Azure support for that.

Yes, talking _with_ your vendor is the way to go.


> They do known their infrastructure best, we hope, and, after all,
> they are taking money for their service.


Text from https://cloud.debian.org/images/cloud/

  Debian Official Cloud Images

  In this page you can find the Debian cloud images provided by the Debian
  Cloud Team for some cloud providers. End users do not need to download
  these images, as they are usually provided by their cloud providers.



  How can I verify my download is correct and exactly what has been
  created by Debian?

  For the current official images (in the per-distribution directories),
  the safest method is to download the image and checksum files over TLS
  from cloud.debian.org or cdimage.debian.org. These names support DNSSEC,
  so a validating resolver can ensure that a client is connected to a
  Debian host. And TLS ensures that the data is not manipulated in flight.

  The legacy OpenStack images (in the OpenStack/ directory) provide
  checksums and signatures. See SHA512SUMS.sign, etc. For more information
  about the verification steps, read the verification guide

  If you're interested in contributing checksum signatures for the current
  images, please reach us on the list: debian-cloud at lists.debian.org.



  Other questions?

  Questions can be forwarded to the Debian Cloud Team: debian-cloud
  at lists.debian.org.



Text from me

  Invest in win-win-situations


Groeten
Geert Stappers
-- 
Silence is hard to parse



Re: Viejito Pc HP no apaga la pantalla

2024-06-09 Thread Salva
Te paso lo link del forum donde contaba lo que me pasó a mí.
https://forum-es.msi.com/index.php?threads/msi-no-se-apaga-con-deb%C3%ADan-instalado.3243/

En mi caso era un portátil nuevo con debían recién instalado. Si a ti te iba 
bien pero de repente ya no se apaga igual es otro caso.

En mi caso había que tocar la BIOS. Pero al pasar el tiempo y no solucionarlo 
instalé MX Linux y va como la seda


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El 9 jun. 2024 1:15, Juan Motorola escribió:

> Buenas tardes/noches
> Un viejito Pc HP no apaga la pantalla.
> Se queda mostrando las últimas líneas del menú con su power-off pero sin 
> apagarse como debería ser.
> ¿Cuál será la causa?
> Usamos Debian 11.8
> Muchas gracias.

Re: Viejito Pc HP no apaga la pantalla

2024-06-09 Thread Eduardo Jorge Gil Michelena
 El sábado, 8 de junio de 2024, 08:15:13 p. m. ART, Juan Motorola 
 escribió:

Un viejito Pc HP no apaga la pantalla.
Se queda mostrando las últimas líneas del menú con su power-off pero sin 
apagarse como debería ser.
¿Cuál será la causa?
Usamos Debian 11.8

--
RESPUESTA:

Las causas pueden ser muchas. Las más frecuentes es que haya un proceso que NO 
pueda ser detenido rápida y debidamente o que falle la escritura de algún log.

Prueba apagando el sistema desde la línea de comandos de cualquiera de estas 
maneras: 

poweroff 

shutdown -h now

systemctl poweroff

Por lo menos verás en pantalla los mensajes del sistema mientras se apaga, de 
esa manera verás en donde se detiene.  

Re: about 10th new install of bullseye

2024-06-09 Thread gene heskett

On 6/8/24 19:11, Tom Dial wrote:



On 6/7/24 23:41, gene heskett wrote:

On 6/7/24 20:38, Tom Dial wrote:



On 6/6/24 23:14, gene heskett wrote:

On 6/6/24 19:00, Tom Dial wrote:



On 6/5/24 19:53, gene heskett wrote:

On 6/5/24 17:25, Tom Dial wrote:



On 6/5/24 08:58, gene heskett wrote:

On 6/5/24 02:05, Tom Dial wrote:



On 6/4/24 04:26, gene heskett wrote:

On 2/19/22 06:31, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:

Hi Gene,

If this was someone calling you from a TV station saying they 
had a TV
transmitter that was varying in power output - you'd have a 
mental checklist.
You'd get down there, perhaps schedule some sort of power 
down / reduced
power operation and then you'd check - power supplies, feeder 
cables, hot
spots on cables - whatever. Divide and conquer- working back 
to a baseline

of known working conditions and eliminating causes.

My suggestion to you of a reinstall is partly designed to get 
you out of this
"X happens, I did Y, now I've got Z" - to get to a known 
initial state.


Take out all the serial converters to UPS, lathe and so on. 
Wireless keyboard
doesn't present as serial in the same way that brltty does - 
if it did, I'd

have brltty with every install on this laptop.

Copy off your home directory as you did before - maybe using 
tar.gz and preserving permissions. Start with the .iso that 
includes firmware - the unofficial one.


Build back slowly - do an expert text mode install if you 
can. Then add your
Trinity desktop - I don't think any of us can help you there, 
since we don't

run trinity.

Check and you should find that brltty isn't installed at all. 
Then re-add thingsgradually until you have the working system 
you want. Document it - write down

the steps you take / copy configuration files you change.

That will also reveal logging / login slowdowns or whatever 
caused by

individual devices as you add them back. Keep a list as you go.

That's the counsel of perfection: alternatively:

apt rdepends brltty gives me:

me@mymachine:~$ apt rdepends brltty
brltty
Reverse Depends:
   Suggests: speechd-el (>= 3.7.2)
   Depends: brltty-espeak (= 6.3+dfsg-1+deb11u1)
   Suggests: orca
   Depends: brltty-x11 (= 6.3+dfsg-1+deb11u1)
   Depends: brltty-speechd (= 6.3+dfsg-1+deb11u1)
   Depends: brltty-flite (= 6.3+dfsg-1+deb11u1)

You could try apt-get remove (or equivalent) on each of those 
packages and
see if that clears it. I _know_ this is frustrating as all 
get out for you
but a clear approach, written down so that you can remember 
where you got

to will be very helpful.


Any attempt to remove cura or brltty, removes gnome leaving me I 
assume with a text only system by the time gnome takes all its 
dependency's with it.  Thanks Tom.


Have you actually tried uninstalling brltty only, as a separate 
action from all others?


I have a number of gnome installations, unfortunately for this 
discussion all bookworm. None of them has brltty.


I have a few installations of bullseye and an older stretch 
installation, but none with gnome installed. On all of them, 
though, "apt-rdepends -r gnome" fails to list brltty as a gnome 
dependency. And on the bookworm systems, simulated installation 
of gnome ("apt install -s gnome") shows brltty as a suggested 
package only and would not install it along with gnome; on the 
stretch system, gnome installation makes no reference at all to 
brltty.


While I have both with only the radio buttons for keyboard and 
rodent plugged into usb at install time. I have only one wired 
keyboard and no wired mice as I've had a lightning strike on the 
pole that serves this house reach up and tap me by way of my 
fingers on the keyboard. Wasn't that much of a tap, I've been 
tapped a lot harder that that, hard enough to trigger a 6 month 
round of shingles and the burns were months healing. And in this 
case did not damage the keyboard or computer, but I did get the 
message. I've had many strikes on that pole since I built a garage 
on the end of the house, which caused me to install a 200 amp 
service and bring my grounding specs up to NEC. Zero problems 
since then (2008)


Is it possible you have apt settings that automatically pull in 
suggested packages, and that is interfering with attempts to 
remove brltty? I am not expert enough wrt apt and its relatives 
to know whether that even makes sense, and it seems a bit far 
fetched if maybe barely possible.


Maybe if you post the output from "apt-rdepends -r brltty" and 
"apt purge --simulate brltty" it will be informative.


Neither of those utils are installed. Should they be?


apt should be installed. As far as I know it has been included by 
default in the Debian base system as the preferred command line 
package management program since buster or earlier. I have never 
had to install it. You probably should if it is missing.


apt-rdepends is at least partly redundant with apt.
The command "apt-rdepends -r ", and "apt rdepends 
" both show reverse dependencies of ; 
the latter also shows 

Re: about 10th new install of bullseye

2024-06-09 Thread gene heskett

On 6/8/24 18:02, David Christensen wrote:

On 6/8/24 12:13, gene heskett wrote:

On 6/8/24 03:22, David Christensen wrote:
If you installed VirtualBox on your Debian primary workstation, you 
could create one Debian VM for each of your engineering/ 
manufacturing apps.  This would give each app a clean Debian VM for 
installation, prevent apps from fighting each other, and prevent apps 
from modifying your base Debian installation.


It is quite rare that a snap, appimage, or venv needs anything from 
the system. Memory or storage is generally done at whatever venv is 
started as the user. That venv equ is generally what they all claim to 
do. I see your reticence to make use of them as a restriction.



My suggestion is a variation of the "divide and conquer" troubleshooting 
strategy.



I am not familiar with snap, appimage, or venv.  Regardless of the 
software distribution mechanism, I expect that each app is developed and 
tested against a list of supported OS's and releases using VM's.  If you 
provide each app with its own VM containing a supported OS and release, 
the app should install and work correctly.  And, your base Debian 
installation should remain stable.


That it is not, locking up about every 10 days switching workspaces, 
locking with what would be horizontal synch bar in an NTSC system, 
frozen at some random location on the screen. Mouse pointer is alive and 
moves with the mouse, but buttons are inactive, Cycle the power or press 
the front panel reset for 4+ seconds to reboot. I've also asked about 
that several times, without a reply. Memtest86, V9.4 says my 32Gigs is 
clean. Video is built into the mainboard, Intel of some sort I believe. 
Compared to the other problem I have, fixing this is not a very high 
priority. But I need sleep, so good night.  Take care & stay well, David.>

David

.


Cheers, Gene Heskett, CET.
--
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
 - Louis D. Brandeis



Re: Thinkpad T14 Gen 5, touchpad not detected

2024-06-08 Thread Charles Curley
On Sun, 9 Jun 2024 06:51:00 +0200
Timothée Jaussoin  wrote:

> Is there something in particular I should look for ?
> 

I would look for some of the identifiers in those dmsg lines you showed
earlier. See if the touchpad was detected but rejected. That migh give
you a clue as to why it was rejected.

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conversion fichier texte contenant des URL

2024-06-08 Thread Klaus Becker
Avec libreoffice ?

Klaus


Re: Thinkpad T14 Gen 5, touchpad not detected

2024-06-08 Thread Timothée Jaussoin

Is there something in particular I should look for ?



Re: kernel tuning for cloud VM

2024-06-08 Thread tomas
On Sun, Jun 09, 2024 at 07:41:58AM +0800, Jeff Peng wrote:
> Hello
> 
> I am using the VMs from big providers such as AWS and Azure.

I'd ask AWS/Azure support for that. They do knowi their infrastructure
best, we hope, and, after all, they are taking money for their service.

Cheers
-- 
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Snaps and Co [was: about 10th new install of bullseye]

2024-06-08 Thread tomas
On Sat, Jun 08, 2024 at 03:13:21PM -0400, gene heskett wrote:

[...]

> [...] That venv equ is generally what they all claim to do. I see your
> reticence to make use of them as a restriction.

I'm also firmly in that restricted camp.

One of the things I appreciate distributions (and Debian in particular)
is that they are a kind of "contract" (in Debian, it's even stated
explicitly with the Social Contract).

Things are packaged in a specific way, there are some principles the
distro tries to follow, etc.

So this makes things easier for you, the user. Less surprises.

Snaps, AppImages, etc. just "use" [1] this social construct as an
infrastructure and bring their world with them -- without even trying
to mesh, let alone to give back.

That's why I tend to stay away from them.

Don't get me wrong: on a technical level they are cute (and have been
reinvented time and again, the first I know of is Tcl's starkit, around
2002), and they have their uses, but as a distribution model I avoid
them for social reasons.

Cheers

[1] I have a significantly harsher term for that, but I'm trying hard
to stay polite.

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Re: Re: Souci de montage avec pcloud.com

2024-06-08 Thread pierrem4711
Merci Etienne et Erwann.
Je vais poursuivre mes recherches tant du côté de debian que du côté de pcloud.
Un petit ennui de santé m'empêche cependant d'accéder à mon ordi pour quelques 
jours.
Je teprendrai dès que possible.

-- Envoyé depuis /e/ Mail.

Re: kernel tuning for cloud VM

2024-06-08 Thread jeremy ardley



On 9/6/24 07:41, Jeff Peng wrote:

Hello

I am using the VMs from big providers such as AWS and Azure.
most of the VMs are 2core/4gb ram/100gb disk etc.
They are used for running the regular web services (java, php etc), 
with debian 11 installed.


Every VM I just use the default system configuration.
Do I need to update some kernel config for the VMs? such as 
socket_buffer, max_fd etc. what's the suggested options for this kind 
of VM?


Thanks.



If your applications work correctly and with acceptable response time 
then don't change anything.


Jeremy




Résolu Re: [HS] cherche utilitaire noms de fichiers

2024-06-08 Thread k6dedijon
Merci klaus,
C'est ce que je cherchais.
Cassis


- Mail d'origine -
De: Klaus Becker 
À: debian-user-french@lists.debian.org
Envoyé: Sat, 08 Jun 2024 18:56:15 +0200 (CEST)
Objet: Re: [HS] cherche utilitaire noms de fichiers

Tu cherches détox à mon avis, j'en ai parlé ici il y a quelques semaines.

Librement
Klaus

08.06.2024 18:41:16 k6dedi...@free.fr:

> Bonjour à tous,
> J'ai vu passer dans une discussion sur la liste le nom d'un utilitaire 
> permettant de vérifier les noms de fichiers.
> Je crois me rappeler que celui-ci était capable de remplacer les caractères 
> inappropriés, voir de remplacer les espaces par un caractère "souligné".
> Je crois me rappeler que l'auteur du message écrivait : "" est ton ami.
> Mais lorsque ce message est passé, je n'ai pas eu le réflexe de noter cet 
> utilitaire.
> 
> Cet utilitaire permet-il de respecter l'UTF8 ?
> 
> Merci pour vos réponses,
> Cassis



kernel tuning for cloud VM

2024-06-08 Thread Jeff Peng

Hello

I am using the VMs from big providers such as AWS and Azure.
most of the VMs are 2core/4gb ram/100gb disk etc.
They are used for running the regular web services (java, php etc), with 
debian 11 installed.


Every VM I just use the default system configuration.
Do I need to update some kernel config for the VMs? such as 
socket_buffer, max_fd etc. what's the suggested options for this kind of 
VM?


Thanks.



Re: about 10th new install of bullseye

2024-06-08 Thread Tom Dial



On 6/7/24 23:41, gene heskett wrote:

On 6/7/24 20:38, Tom Dial wrote:



On 6/6/24 23:14, gene heskett wrote:

On 6/6/24 19:00, Tom Dial wrote:



On 6/5/24 19:53, gene heskett wrote:

On 6/5/24 17:25, Tom Dial wrote:



On 6/5/24 08:58, gene heskett wrote:

On 6/5/24 02:05, Tom Dial wrote:



On 6/4/24 04:26, gene heskett wrote:

On 2/19/22 06:31, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:

Hi Gene,

If this was someone calling you from a TV station saying they had a TV
transmitter that was varying in power output - you'd have a mental checklist.
You'd get down there, perhaps schedule some sort of power down / reduced
power operation and then you'd check - power supplies, feeder cables, hot
spots on cables - whatever. Divide and conquer- working back to a baseline
of known working conditions and eliminating causes.

My suggestion to you of a reinstall is partly designed to get you out of this
"X happens, I did Y, now I've got Z" - to get to a known initial state.

Take out all the serial converters to UPS, lathe and so on. Wireless keyboard
doesn't present as serial in the same way that brltty does - if it did, I'd
have brltty with every install on this laptop.

Copy off your home directory as you did before - maybe using tar.gz and 
preserving permissions. Start with the .iso that includes firmware - the 
unofficial one.

Build back slowly - do an expert text mode install if you can. Then add your
Trinity desktop - I don't think any of us can help you there, since we don't
run trinity.

Check and you should find that brltty isn't installed at all. Then re-add 
thingsgradually until you have the working system you want. Document it - write 
down
the steps you take / copy configuration files you change.

That will also reveal logging / login slowdowns or whatever caused by
individual devices as you add them back. Keep a list as you go.

That's the counsel of perfection: alternatively:

apt rdepends brltty gives me:

me@mymachine:~$ apt rdepends brltty
brltty
Reverse Depends:
   Suggests: speechd-el (>= 3.7.2)
   Depends: brltty-espeak (= 6.3+dfsg-1+deb11u1)
   Suggests: orca
   Depends: brltty-x11 (= 6.3+dfsg-1+deb11u1)
   Depends: brltty-speechd (= 6.3+dfsg-1+deb11u1)
   Depends: brltty-flite (= 6.3+dfsg-1+deb11u1)

You could try apt-get remove (or equivalent) on each of those packages and
see if that clears it. I _know_ this is frustrating as all get out for you
but a clear approach, written down so that you can remember where you got
to will be very helpful.


Any attempt to remove cura or brltty, removes gnome leaving me I assume with a 
text only system by the time gnome takes all its dependency's with it.  Thanks 
Tom.


Have you actually tried uninstalling brltty only, as a separate action from all 
others?

I have a number of gnome installations, unfortunately for this discussion all 
bookworm. None of them has brltty.

I have a few installations of bullseye and an older stretch installation, but none with gnome 
installed. On all of them, though, "apt-rdepends -r gnome" fails to list brltty as a 
gnome dependency. And on the bookworm systems, simulated installation of gnome ("apt install 
-s gnome") shows brltty as a suggested package only and would not install it along with gnome; 
on the stretch system, gnome installation makes no reference at all to brltty.


While I have both with only the radio buttons for keyboard and rodent plugged 
into usb at install time. I have only one wired keyboard and no wired mice as 
I've had a lightning strike on the pole that serves this house reach up and tap 
me by way of my fingers on the keyboard. Wasn't that much of a tap, I've been 
tapped a lot harder that that, hard enough to trigger a 6 month round of 
shingles and the burns were months healing. And in this case did not damage the 
keyboard or computer, but I did get the message. I've had many strikes on that 
pole since I built a garage on the end of the house, which caused me to install 
a 200 amp service and bring my grounding specs up to NEC. Zero problems since 
then (2008)


Is it possible you have apt settings that automatically pull in suggested 
packages, and that is interfering with attempts to remove brltty? I am not 
expert enough wrt apt and its relatives to know whether that even makes sense, 
and it seems a bit far fetched if maybe barely possible.

Maybe if you post the output from "apt-rdepends -r brltty" and "apt purge --simulate 
brltty" it will be informative.


Neither of those utils are installed. Should they be?


apt should be installed. As far as I know it has been included by default in 
the Debian base system as the preferred command line package management program 
since buster or earlier. I have never had to install it. You probably should if 
it is missing.

apt-rdepends is at least partly redundant with apt.
The command "apt-rdepends -r ", and "apt rdepends " both 
show reverse dependencies of ; the latter also shows suggestions (packages that suggest 



Regards,
Tom Dial



If all 

Viejito Pc HP no apaga la pantalla

2024-06-08 Thread Juan Motorola
Buenas tardes/noches
Un viejito Pc HP no apaga la pantalla.
Se queda mostrando las últimas líneas del menú con su power-off pero sin
apagarse como debería ser.
¿Cuál será la causa?
Usamos Debian 11.8
Muchas gracias.


Re: about 10th new install of bullseye

2024-06-08 Thread David Christensen

On 6/8/24 12:13, gene heskett wrote:

On 6/8/24 03:22, David Christensen wrote:
If you installed VirtualBox on your Debian primary workstation, you 
could create one Debian VM for each of your engineering/ manufacturing 
apps.  This would give each app a clean Debian VM for installation, 
prevent apps from fighting each other, and prevent apps from modifying 
your base Debian installation.


It is quite rare that a snap, appimage, or venv needs anything from the 
system. Memory or storage is generally done at whatever venv is started 
as the user. That venv equ is generally what they all claim to do. I see 
your reticence to make use of them as a restriction.



My suggestion is a variation of the "divide and conquer" troubleshooting 
strategy.



I am not familiar with snap, appimage, or venv.  Regardless of the 
software distribution mechanism, I expect that each app is developed and 
tested against a list of supported OS's and releases using VM's.  If you 
provide each app with its own VM containing a supported OS and release, 
the app should install and work correctly.  And, your base Debian 
installation should remain stable.



David



Re: Thinkpad T14 Gen 5, touchpad not detected

2024-06-08 Thread Charles Curley
On Sat, 8 Jun 2024 22:17:49 +0200
Timothée Jaussoin  wrote:

> If you need some more information I'd be pleased to share whatever is 
> required :)

You might look at the installation logs. /var/log/installer/

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Re: [HS] cherche utilitaire noms de fichiers

2024-06-08 Thread ajh-valmer
> détox à mon avis, j'en ai parlé ici il y a quelques semaines.

C'est detox (sans accent sur le e).

Il supprime les espaces dans les noms de fichiers,
remplacés par des - ou _
mais on ne peut pas choisir.

> 08.06.2024 18:41:16 k6dedi...@free.fr:
> > J'ai vu passer dans une discussion sur la liste le nom d'un utilitaire
> > permettant de vérifier les noms de fichiers. 
> > Je crois me rappeler que celui-ci était capable de remplacer les
> > caractères inappropriés, voir de remplacer les espaces par un
> > caractère "souligné".  
> > Je crois me rappeler que l'auteur du message écrivait : "" 
> > est ton ami. 
> > Mais lorsque ce message est passé, je n'ai pas eu le réflexe de 
> > noter cet utilitaire. 

> > Cet utilitaire permet-il de respecter l'UTF8 ? :
OUI, selon le man detox



conversion fichier texte contenant des URL

2024-06-08 Thread Bernard Schoenacker
Bonjour,

J'ai essayé de convertir un fichier texte en pdf 
via les opérations suivantes :

- a2ps
- pstopdf 


Le résultat n'est pas aussi bien que je le souhaiterais, en
effet les URLs ne sont pas considérés comme des liens, mais 
comme un contenu textuel...

Comment arriver au bon résultat ?

Merci pour votre aimable attention

Sincèrement

Bernard Schoenacker



Thinkpad T14 Gen 5, touchpad not detected

2024-06-08 Thread Timothée Jaussoin

Hi,

I just installed Debian Testing on my new Thinkpad T14 Gen 5 and I found 
out that the touchpad is not actually detected by the system.


I have nothing in dmesg or xinput. However it is fully functional in 
other Live USB distros (Fedora and Ubuntu LTS 24.04, they have the same 
6.8 Linux kernel).


Here is my current hardware https://linux-hardware.org/?probe=13318ed64a

Here is the dmesg in Fedora:

[ 5.398935] input: ELAN0676:00 04F3:3195 Touchpad as 
/devices/pci:00/:00:15.0/i2c_designware.0/i2c-0/i2c-ELAN0676:00/0018:04F3:3195.0001/input/input8 



[ 5.480290] input: ELAN0676:00 04F3:3195 Touchpad as 
/devices/pci:00/:00:15.0/i2c_designware.0/i2c-0/i2c-ELAN0676:00/0018:04F3:3195.0001/input/input11


I don't have those lines in my Debian dmesg.

If you need some more information I'd be pleased to share whatever is 
required :)


Regards,

edhelas



Re: about 10th new install of bullseye

2024-06-08 Thread gene heskett

On 6/8/24 03:22, David Christensen wrote:

On 6/7/24 22:41, gene heskett wrote:
I OTOH, have found AppImages a good way to get uptodate, and keep 
uptodate, packages like OpenSCAD, FreeCAD and the miriad 3d slicers, 
most of which do a new AppImage in the first week of the month. So the 
OpenSCAD I'm running is nearly 4 years newer than the repo version, 
and probably 20x faster.



I have found that installing software on Debian by any means other than 
official Debian packages is a recipe for disaster.



I sometimes write Perl code that runs as root.  I use VirtualBox and do 
my development and testing on virtual machines.  Oracle provides Debian 
packages and integrates with sources.list(5) and apt-get(8).  See 
"Debian-based Linux distributions":


https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads


If you installed VirtualBox on your Debian primary workstation, you 
could create one Debian VM for each of your engineering/ manufacturing 
apps.  This would give each app a clean Debian VM for installation, 
prevent apps from fighting each other, and prevent apps from modifying 
your base Debian installation.



David

It is quite rare that a snap, appimage, or venv needs anything from the 
system. Memory or storage is generally done at whatever venv is started 
as the user. That venv equ is generally what they all claim to do. I see 
your reticence to make use of them as a restriction.

.


Cheers, Gene Heskett, CET.
--
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
 - Louis D. Brandeis



Re: activar pulseaudio

2024-06-08 Thread Camaleón
El 2024-06-08 a las 17:50 +0200, hubble escribió:

> On Thu, 30 May 2024 13:04:29 +0200
> Camaleón  wrote:
> 
> > El 2024-05-30 a las 10:36 +0200, hubble hubble escribió:
> > 
> > > He actualizado desde Bullseye a la actual estable de debian.
> > > En general ha ido todo bien excepto en que cuando inicio sesión el 
> > > altavoz del sonido marca con un aspa roja que no está activo y no 
> > > funciona el sonido.
> > > 
> > > desde la consola ejecuto:
> > > $ systemctl --user start pulseaudio
> > > 
> > > y el sonido funciona correctamente.
> > > 
> > > La pregunta es, ¿cómo hago para que quede fijo pulseaudio para siempre y 
> > > no tener que ejecutar esa orden cada vez que inicio sesión?
> > 
> > Asegúrate de que PA se ejecuta al inicio (enabled):
> > 
> > sm01@stt008:~$ systemctl --user status pulseaudio
> > ● pulseaudio.service - Sound Service
> >  Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/user/pulseaudio.service; enabled; 
> > vendor preset: enabled)
> >  Active: active (running) since Thu 2024-05-30 07:17:31 CEST; 5h 
> > 45min ago
> > TriggeredBy: ● pulseaudio.socket
> >Main PID: 597 (pulseaudio)
> >   Tasks: 2 (limit: 9512)
> >  Memory: 28.9M
> > CPU: 2.266s
> >  CGroup: 
> > /user.slice/user-1000.slice/user@1000.service/app.slice/pulseaudio.servi
> > ce
> >  └─597 /usr/bin/pulseaudio --daemonize=no 
> > --log-target=journal
> > 
> > may 30 07:17:27 stt008 systemd[582]: Starting Sound Service...
> > may 30 07:17:31 stt008 systemd[582]: Started Sound Service.
> > 
> > Para otras cosas a probar (configuración de Pavumeter, comprobar que no 
> > está silenciado por error, correcta deteccción del hardware de sonido, 
> > etc...) revisa la wiki de Archlinux:
> > 
> > PulseAudio/Troubleshooting
> > https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/PulseAudio/Troubleshooting#Getting_debug_output_from_pulseaudio
> > 
> 
> Pues no se ve nada claro.
> Cuando acabas de arrancar y todavía no va:
> 
> systemctl --user status pulseaudio
> ○ pulseaudio.service - Sound Service
>  Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/user/pulseaudio.service; enabled; 
> preset: enabled)
>  Active: inactive (dead)
> TriggeredBy: ○ pulseaudio.socket

Ah, eso es interesante.

Parece que se trata de un bug, o al menos los síntomas que describes 
con los mismos:

pulseaudio: Pulseaudio dies after boot
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1025861

Poco aporta porque no hay comentarios de los desarrolladores ni cómo 
resolverlo, más allá de iniciarlo manualmente como haces pero el 
informe del fallo es relativamente reciente (10-12-2022) y no está 
marcado como resuelto.

> Lo arrancas:
> 
> user@tau:~$ systemctl --user start pulseaudio
> 
> y con pulse audio arrancado:
> 
> user@tau:~$ systemctl --user status pulseaudio
> ●pulseaudio.service - Sound Service
>  Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/user/pulseaudio.service; enabled; 
> preset: enabled)
>  Active: active (running)since Wed 2024-06-05 08:17:14 CEST; 4s ago
> TriggeredBy: ●pulseaudio.socket
>    Main PID: 4266 (pulseaudio)
>   Tasks: 6 (limit: 9070)
>  Memory: 21.5M
>     CPU: 122ms
>  CGroup: 
> /user.slice/user-1000.slice/user@1000.service/session.slice/pulseaudio.service
>  ├─4266 /usr/bin/pulseaudio --daemonize=no --log-target=journal
>  └─4280 /usr/libexec/pulse/gsettings-helper
> 
> de juny 05 08:17:14 tau systemd[967]: Starting pulseaudio.service - 
> Sound Service...
> de juny 05 08:17:14 tau pulseaudio[4266]: Stale PID file, overwriting.
> de juny 05 08:17:14 tau systemd[967]: Started pulseaudio.service - Sound 
> Service.
> 
> 
> ---
> Hay algo que he visto pero no me queda claro si tocarlo o no. En el status 
> hay una linea que hace referencia al fichero: 
> /usr/lib/systemd/user/pulseaudio.service
> 
> que dice así:
> 
> /usr/bin/pulseaudio --daemonize=no
> 
> No se si tendrá que ver.

Yo lo tengo igual que tú, entiendo que debe estar bien que no se ejecute
como demonio para todo el sistema :-?

Saludos,

-- 
Camaleón 



Re: Impossible to install extensions with Gnome browser plugin

2024-06-08 Thread David Wright
On Fri 07 Jun 2024 at 22:34:58 (+0300), Jan Krapivin wrote:
> пт, 7 июн. 2024 г. в 22:04, David Wright :
> > On Fri 07 Jun 2024 at 20:06:27 (+0300), Jan Krapivin wrote:
> > > Yes, you are right, maybe. Though Debian is probably a rare (if not the
> > > only) distro that still uses Gnome 43.9, which is, as i use Debian, my
> > > case. And (maybe) a problem?
> >
> > I searched for gnome in https://packages.debian.org/index
> > and got 65 package matches for bookworm. I repeated for
> > trixie and got 63 matches. Finally I tried sid and got
> > 94 matches. However, I failed to find the string 43.9
> > on any of these pages. How do you come by it? (I don't
> > run gnome myself.)
> >
> On gnome you can just run
> $ *gnome-shell --version*

OK. It seems the packages index is behaving in a very inconsistent
manner when given gnome as the search string. I think it's worth
a bug report, but I'm not sure how one directs it to the right place.
Sorry not to be able to help with your problem.

Cheers,
David.



Re: [HS] cherche utilitaire noms de fichiers

2024-06-08 Thread Klaus Becker
Tu cherches détox à mon avis, j'en ai parlé ici il y a quelques semaines.

Librement
Klaus

08.06.2024 18:41:16 k6dedi...@free.fr:

> Bonjour à tous,
> J'ai vu passer dans une discussion sur la liste le nom d'un utilitaire 
> permettant de vérifier les noms de fichiers.
> Je crois me rappeler que celui-ci était capable de remplacer les caractères 
> inappropriés, voir de remplacer les espaces par un caractère "souligné".
> Je crois me rappeler que l'auteur du message écrivait : "" est ton ami.
> Mais lorsque ce message est passé, je n'ai pas eu le réflexe de noter cet 
> utilitaire.
> 
> Cet utilitaire permet-il de respecter l'UTF8 ?
> 
> Merci pour vos réponses,
> Cassis


Re: Looking for some pre-buying verification: will an external display actually work with a Lenovo Thinkpad P16 Gen 2?

2024-06-08 Thread Max Nikulin

On 06/06/2024 16:57, Lists wrote:
As I don't do anything remotely graphically taxing I don't need a speedy 
GPU.


More powerful GPU may mean better quality of local (offline) AI 
assistant. Perhaps it is too early to say that it is must have, but it 
seems changes are coming.




[HS] cherche utilitaire noms de fichiers

2024-06-08 Thread k6dedijon
Bonjour à tous,
J'ai vu passer dans une discussion sur la liste le nom d'un utilitaire 
permettant de vérifier les noms de fichiers.
Je crois me rappeler que celui-ci était capable de remplacer les caractères 
inappropriés, voir de remplacer les espaces par un caractère "souligné".
Je crois me rappeler que l'auteur du message écrivait : "" est ton ami.
Mais lorsque ce message est passé, je n'ai pas eu le réflexe de noter cet 
utilitaire.

Cet utilitaire permet-il de respecter l'UTF8 ?

Merci pour vos réponses,
Cassis



Re: activar pulseaudio

2024-06-08 Thread hubble
On Thu, 30 May 2024 13:04:29 +0200
Camaleón  wrote:

> El 2024-05-30 a las 10:36 +0200, hubble hubble escribió:
> 
> > He actualizado desde Bullseye a la actual estable de debian.
> > En general ha ido todo bien excepto en que cuando inicio sesión el altavoz 
> > del sonido marca con un aspa roja que no está activo y no funciona el 
> > sonido.
> > 
> > desde la consola ejecuto:
> > $ systemctl --user start pulseaudio
> > 
> > y el sonido funciona correctamente.
> > 
> > La pregunta es, ¿cómo hago para que quede fijo pulseaudio para siempre y no 
> > tener que ejecutar esa orden cada vez que inicio sesión?
> 
> Asegúrate de que PA se ejecuta al inicio (enabled):
> 
> sm01@stt008:~$ systemctl --user status pulseaudio
> ● pulseaudio.service - Sound Service
>  Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/user/pulseaudio.service; enabled; 
> vendor preset: enabled)
>  Active: active (running) since Thu 2024-05-30 07:17:31 CEST; 5h 
> 45min ago
> TriggeredBy: ● pulseaudio.socket
>Main PID: 597 (pulseaudio)
>   Tasks: 2 (limit: 9512)
>  Memory: 28.9M
> CPU: 2.266s
>  CGroup: 
> /user.slice/user-1000.slice/user@1000.service/app.slice/pulseaudio.servi
> ce
>  └─597 /usr/bin/pulseaudio --daemonize=no 
> --log-target=journal
> 
> may 30 07:17:27 stt008 systemd[582]: Starting Sound Service...
> may 30 07:17:31 stt008 systemd[582]: Started Sound Service.
> 
> Para otras cosas a probar (configuración de Pavumeter, comprobar que no 
> está silenciado por error, correcta deteccción del hardware de sonido, 
> etc...) revisa la wiki de Archlinux:
> 
> PulseAudio/Troubleshooting
> https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/PulseAudio/Troubleshooting#Getting_debug_output_from_pulseaudio
> 
> Saludos,
> 
> -- 
> Camaleón 
> 

Pues no se ve nada claro.
Cuando acabas de arrancar y todavía no va:

systemctl --user status pulseaudio
○ pulseaudio.service - Sound Service
 Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/user/pulseaudio.service; enabled; 
preset: enabled)
 Active: inactive (dead)
TriggeredBy: ○ pulseaudio.socket


Lo arrancas:

user@tau:~$ systemctl --user start pulseaudio

y con pulse audio arrancado:

user@tau:~$ systemctl --user status pulseaudio
●pulseaudio.service - Sound Service
 Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/user/pulseaudio.service; enabled; 
preset: enabled)
 Active: active (running)since Wed 2024-06-05 08:17:14 CEST; 4s ago
TriggeredBy: ●pulseaudio.socket
   Main PID: 4266 (pulseaudio)
  Tasks: 6 (limit: 9070)
 Memory: 21.5M
    CPU: 122ms
 CGroup: 
/user.slice/user-1000.slice/user@1000.service/session.slice/pulseaudio.service
 ├─4266 /usr/bin/pulseaudio --daemonize=no --log-target=journal
 └─4280 /usr/libexec/pulse/gsettings-helper

de juny 05 08:17:14 tau systemd[967]: Starting pulseaudio.service - 
Sound Service...
de juny 05 08:17:14 tau pulseaudio[4266]: Stale PID file, overwriting.
de juny 05 08:17:14 tau systemd[967]: Started pulseaudio.service - Sound 
Service.


---
Hay algo que he visto pero no me queda claro si tocarlo o no. En el status hay 
una linea que hace referencia al fichero: 
/usr/lib/systemd/user/pulseaudio.service

que dice así:

/usr/bin/pulseaudio --daemonize=no

No se si tendrá que ver.

-- 
hubble 



Re: Impossible to install extensions with Gnome browser plugin

2024-06-08 Thread Max Nikulin

On 06/06/2024 17:41, Jan Krapivin wrote:

Recently i have found out
that i am unable to install new extensions with browser plugin "GNOME Shell
integration". I have tried different browsers: Firefox stable


If snap or flatpak sanboxing is involved then the following may be relevant:

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/1661935
Summary: Snap: cannot install/manage extensions from 
extensions.gnome.org → Snap does not support NativeMessaging


P.S. Currently I do not have a VM with Gnome.



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