Re: Debian 9.1 amd64 Xfce panel clock broken
On 08/11/17 04:57, John Ratliff wrote: On Wed, Aug 09, 2017 at 05:13:55PM -0700, David Christensen wrote: Time Settings Timezone PST8PDT Appearance Layout Digital Tooltip format Wednesday 09 August 2017 Clock Options Format 05:04:55 PM Once I have made the above settings, but before choosing "Close", the current time is displayed at the proper location in the Xfce panel. This is what I want. - But when I click "Close", the current time disappears from the panel -- e.g. Clock breaks. Does the space for the clock disappear, or go blank? If it's going blank, I suggest you look at color settings for the clock -- you may have accidentally selected 100% transparent text, or the same color as the background. -dsr- This is a known bug in the clock applet for Xfce. Last I checked the bug tracker upstream, it hadn't been fixed. I have the same issue. You can't adjust the clock settings without it erasing your format string and making the clock blank. https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11527 My workaround is to use the orange date/time panel item instead. I thought about that -- might as well until the Xfce clock gets fixed. David
Re: Debian 9.1 amd64 Xfce panel clock broken
On 08/10/17 06:52, Charlie Kravetz wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On Wed, 9 Aug 2017 22:48:37 -0700 David Christensen wrote: On 08/09/17 21:47, Charlie Kravetz wrote: It almost sounds like the panel is too long for the monitor. The clock is disappearing off the end of the panel. Is the clock the last thing in panel? Try moving it to the other of the panel, and see if it still disappears. Clock is neither the first nor last item in the panel. Clock works fine on Xfce on Debian Wheezy, Debian Jesse, FreeBSD 11.0, and possibly others. I'm looking for an error message from Xfce panel, or a way to obtain error/ debug messages. David The only way I know to do that, if nothing shows up in ~/.xsession-errors, 2017-08-11 21:46:11 dpchrist@tinkywinky ~ $ grep -i clock .xsession-errors 2017-08-11 21:46:15 dpchrist@tinkywinky ~ $ grep -i panel .xsession-errors 2017-08-11 21:46:23 dpchrist@tinkywinky ~ $ grep -i xfce .xsession-errors dbus-update-activation-environment: setting XDG_DATA_DIRS=/usr/share/xfce4:/usr/local/share/:/usr/share/ xfce4-session-Message: SSH authentication agent is already running (xfce4-session:5464): xfce4-session-WARNING **: gpg-agent returned no PID in the variables (xfce4-terminal:5560): Gtk-WARNING **: Allocating size to GtkScrollbar 0x55b9781683d0 without calling gtk_widget_get_preferred_width/height(). How does the code know the size to allocate? (xfce4-terminal:5560): Gtk-WARNING **: Allocating size to GtkScrollbar 0x55b9781687d0 without calling gtk_widget_get_preferred_width/height(). How does the code know the size to allocate? is to run debug. https://docs.xfce.org/xfce/xfce4-panel/debugging Maybe later. David
Re: Debian 9.1 amd64 Xfce panel clock broken
On 08/10/17 11:51, Ralph Katz wrote: On 08/09/2017 06:13 PM, David Christensen wrote: debian-user: I have a Dell Inspiron E1505 laptop with an Intel Core Duo T7400 CPU, 2 GB RAM, 16 GB SSD, and a fresh install of debian-9.1.0-amd64-xfce-CD-1.iso, with all updates and upgrades as of now: 2017-08-09 16:59:07 root@tinkywinky ~ # cat /etc/debian_version 9.1 2017-08-09 16:59:18 root@tinkywinky ~ # uname -a Linux tinkywinky 4.9.0-3-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.9.30-2+deb9u3 (2017-08-06) x86_64 GNU/Linux 2017-08-09 16:59:22 root@tinkywinky ~ # dpkg-query --show xfce4 xfce44.12.3 I would like to use the Xfce panel "clock" item. Unfortunately, it is broken: - If I right-click on the Xfce panel and choose "Panel Preferences...", the "Panel" dialog appears. - Selecting Panel -> Items tab, "Clock" appears in the list of panel items. - If I select Panel -> Items -> Clock and click the "Edit the currently selected item" button, the "Clock" dialog appears. - I then configure Clock as follows: Time Settings TimezonePST8PDT Appearance Layout Digital Tooltip formatWednesday 09 August 2017 Clock Options Format05:04:55 PM Once I have made the above settings, but before choosing "Close", the current time is displayed at the proper location in the Xfce panel. This is what I want. - But when I click "Close", the current time disappears from the panel -- e.g. Clock breaks. Mine works, but settings look different. I made no changes to clock properties, When I open Panel Preferences -> Items -> Clock -> Edit the currently selected item, the defaults are: Time Settings Timezone Appearance Layout Digital Tooltip format Custom Format Clock Options Format Custom Format yet my field Timezone is blank. Maybe try that? Failure is the same. There is an .xfce4-session.verbose-log , though I don't know what you'll find. Nothing: 2017-08-11 21:43:27 dpchrist@tinkywinky ~ $ find . -name .xfce4-session.verbose-log ./.xfce4-session.verbose-log 2017-08-11 21:43:34 dpchrist@tinkywinky ~ $ grep -i clock .xfce4-session.verbose-log David
Re: Debian 9.1 amd64 Xfce panel clock broken
On 08/11/17 03:39, Dan Ritter wrote: On Wed, Aug 09, 2017 at 05:13:55PM -0700, David Christensen wrote: Time Settings Timezone PST8PDT Appearance Layout Digital Tooltip format Wednesday 09 August 2017 Clock Options Format 05:04:55 PM Once I have made the above settings, but before choosing "Close", the current time is displayed at the proper location in the Xfce panel. This is what I want. - But when I click "Close", the current time disappears from the panel -- e.g. Clock breaks. Does the space for the clock disappear, or go blank? The clock disappears (all the other items on the panel rearrange to fill the void). David
Re: Debian 9.1 amd64 Xfce panel clock broken
> On Wed, Aug 09, 2017 at 05:13:55PM -0700, David Christensen wrote: >> Time Settings >> Timezone PST8PDT >> Appearance >> Layout Digital >> Tooltip format Wednesday 09 August 2017 >> Clock Options >> Format 05:04:55 PM >> >> Once I have made the above settings, but before choosing "Close", the >> current time is displayed at the proper location in the Xfce panel. This >> is >> what I want. >> >> - But when I click "Close", the current time disappears from the panel >> -- >> e.g. Clock breaks. > > Does the space for the clock disappear, or go blank? > > If it's going blank, I suggest you look at color settings for > the clock -- you may have accidentally selected 100% transparent > text, or the same color as the background. > > -dsr- > > This is a known bug in the clock applet for Xfce. Last I checked the bug tracker upstream, it hadn't been fixed. I have the same issue. You can't adjust the clock settings without it erasing your format string and making the clock blank. My workaround is to use the orange date/time panel item instead. --John
Re: Debian 9.1 amd64 Xfce panel clock broken
On Wed, Aug 09, 2017 at 05:13:55PM -0700, David Christensen wrote: > Time Settings > TimezonePST8PDT > Appearance > Layout Digital > Tooltip format Wednesday 09 August 2017 > Clock Options > Format 05:04:55 PM > > Once I have made the above settings, but before choosing "Close", the > current time is displayed at the proper location in the Xfce panel. This is > what I want. > > - But when I click "Close", the current time disappears from the panel -- > e.g. Clock breaks. Does the space for the clock disappear, or go blank? If it's going blank, I suggest you look at color settings for the clock -- you may have accidentally selected 100% transparent text, or the same color as the background. -dsr-
Re: Debian 9.1 amd64 Xfce panel clock broken
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 08/09/2017 06:13 PM, David Christensen wrote: > debian-user: > > I have a Dell Inspiron E1505 laptop with an Intel Core Duo T7400 > CPU, 2 GB RAM, 16 GB SSD, and a fresh install of > debian-9.1.0-amd64-xfce-CD-1.iso, with all updates and upgrades as > of now: > > 2017-08-09 16:59:07 root@tinkywinky ~ # cat /etc/debian_version > 9.1 > > 2017-08-09 16:59:18 root@tinkywinky ~ # uname -a Linux tinkywinky > 4.9.0-3-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.9.30-2+deb9u3 (2017-08-06) x86_64 > GNU/Linux > > 2017-08-09 16:59:22 root@tinkywinky ~ # dpkg-query --show xfce4 > xfce44.12.3 > > > I would like to use the Xfce panel "clock" item. Unfortunately, it > is broken: > > - If I right-click on the Xfce panel and choose "Panel > Preferences...", the "Panel" dialog appears. > > - Selecting Panel -> Items tab, "Clock" appears in the list of > panel items. > > - If I select Panel -> Items -> Clock and click the "Edit the > currently selected item" button, the "Clock" dialog appears. > > - I then configure Clock as follows: > > Time Settings TimezonePST8PDT Appearance Layout > Digital Tooltip formatWednesday 09 August 2017 Clock Options > Format05:04:55 PM > > Once I have made the above settings, but before choosing "Close", > the current time is displayed at the proper location in the Xfce > panel. This is what I want. > > - But when I click "Close", the current time disappears from the > panel -- e.g. Clock breaks. > > > Looking in /var/log and dmesg, I don't see any clues. > > > Any suggestions for figuring out why Clock is broken and how to fix > it? > > > David Mine works, but settings look different. I made no changes to clock properties, yet my field Timezone is blank. Maybe try that? There is an .xfce4-session.verbose-log , though I don't know what you'll find. Good luck! Ralph -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIyBAEBCgAdFiEEJQZ8vK6BnmDiW8fZyAJ5DhtfJxAFAlmMqysACgkQyAJ5Dhtf JxBh8w/2JtkmMRJCoEYqXZ5vQiNiPKKJyShhFXIoRpb2h7Ieih5Uk5Q0nlKnYSo5 7Ym21L98yAZVTq9+cFpfjWHwQhtDqrNdxwZj88IhPnXghO42GZ6gjxeYBbe9NjR8 ZR/hl9Hih8C71tFVg2qwkqJcyHxL6c96yk8lqwv2ts1QpavUr0oo3Nf94okSqc4T SXPVn+fRv/MowjeZmFave9MFrXALoG/hfj3rRdfwSgSGAj0HegciHFd/1moeQbdd f/Ay4+YS7BiLF6Jk5KRIxawJvAnEoasoVlhw37xkl6nsWw5wCi/HXLukXLqI1des LDvTKnrkY8sqBl9EVvxLpGRgehEhTtnwJrlt6WrarhBF7JlWcEZ9Npc0yAOzOs1G c4GWko8iGTk/yu4Ug03Urdu068/lM3nRqrpPdQyWrTkwag2yhehixWvq48YTFp81 O7dpdVR9ygl8lQGQdbqgtpK9IBTvqaia6+GqA0A1JXcadZk3v5nqazQvzZ9YW7dl jgzRDZIGM3p22adxPqRTF17/v+izisJdfuVqrcSAPsf/6uE4lhkow+TXcZa04ALd i7AoK+uF9Z3Sn/lzUcsXyE7CMobUXacHc9F6MnNy2IPSW6RtW7u1QTBUbBJOXLd7 pKsrWFIyYGkzlUyLmaGFsgiUtXY1aChNebyUcdK9usdr5RSSzw== =JIy6 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Debian 9.1 amd64 Xfce panel clock broken
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On Wed, 9 Aug 2017 22:48:37 -0700 David Christensen wrote: >On 08/09/17 21:47, Charlie Kravetz wrote: >> >> It almost sounds like the panel is too long for the monitor. The clock >> is disappearing off the end of the panel. Is the clock the last thing >> in panel? Try moving it to the other of the panel, and see if it still >> disappears. > >Clock is neither the first nor last item in the panel. > > >Clock works fine on Xfce on Debian Wheezy, Debian Jesse, FreeBSD 11.0, >and possibly others. > > >I'm looking for an error message from Xfce panel, or a way to obtain >error/ debug messages. > > >David > The only way I know to do that, if nothing shows up in ~/.xsession-errors, is to run debug. https://docs.xfce.org/xfce/xfce4-panel/debugging - -- Charlie Kravetz Linux Registered User Number 425914 [http://linuxcounter.net/user/425914.html] Never let anyone steal your DREAM. [http://keepingdreams.com] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQEzBAEBCAAdFiEEG5QK93YKrQMH22ZTiq6LjqbJ0IAFAlmMZQEACgkQiq6LjqbJ 0IAEHwf9Fmts6Pu8dGu+8Hk1uBeDK8TCb08Imf0ZadNEXzMPTDv61Bj22+QL7fQl qndLXFTctZ2n610ZVEzUhZT5Ss3c5m/nauGrBY+ymhpOs7VG8AO76bOgohsx7ptB dt0VLZ8EzBCP5s3rvLIZdgfNNJSoz/L3IGm/mJXPjai3sXtAkSh3bvldMQsYpHPv 09pEISqz/EzlQhYMZo6HdOrRloQ+692pHvMoNLgMaCB22vAZZ/AD426ODrwbIZWx YC18ukMcPazk4LiHhcv2PPvAi1qumz/f/xEfw/g53Br+M6K4kSOnndqZ8Klfc7Hh nDE68LObxRPbgQ0ZwA1QL4uE8a5PkQ== =SLQ/ -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Debian 9.1 amd64 Xfce panel clock broken
On 08/09/17 21:47, Charlie Kravetz wrote: It almost sounds like the panel is too long for the monitor. The clock is disappearing off the end of the panel. Is the clock the last thing in panel? Try moving it to the other of the panel, and see if it still disappears. Clock is neither the first nor last item in the panel. Clock works fine on Xfce on Debian Wheezy, Debian Jesse, FreeBSD 11.0, and possibly others. I'm looking for an error message from Xfce panel, or a way to obtain error/ debug messages. David
Re: Debian 9.1 amd64 Xfce panel clock broken
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On Wed, 9 Aug 2017 17:13:55 -0700 David Christensen wrote: >debian-user: > >I have a Dell Inspiron E1505 laptop with an Intel Core Duo T7400 CPU, 2 >GB RAM, 16 GB SSD, and a fresh install of >debian-9.1.0-amd64-xfce-CD-1.iso, with all updates and upgrades as of now: > >2017-08-09 16:59:07 root@tinkywinky ~ ># cat /etc/debian_version >9.1 > >2017-08-09 16:59:18 root@tinkywinky ~ ># uname -a >Linux tinkywinky 4.9.0-3-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.9.30-2+deb9u3 >(2017-08-06) x86_64 GNU/Linux > >2017-08-09 16:59:22 root@tinkywinky ~ ># dpkg-query --show xfce4 >xfce4 4.12.3 > > >I would like to use the Xfce panel "clock" item. Unfortunately, it is >broken: > >- If I right-click on the Xfce panel and choose "Panel Preferences...", >the "Panel" dialog appears. > >- Selecting Panel -> Items tab, "Clock" appears in the list of panel items. > >- If I select Panel -> Items -> Clock and click the "Edit the currently >selected item" button, the "Clock" dialog appears. > >- I then configure Clock as follows: > > Time Settings > TimezonePST8PDT > Appearance > Layout Digital > Tooltip format Wednesday 09 August 2017 > Clock Options > Format 05:04:55 PM > >Once I have made the above settings, but before choosing "Close", the >current time is displayed at the proper location in the Xfce panel. >This is what I want. > >- But when I click "Close", the current time disappears from the panel >-- e.g. Clock breaks. > > >Looking in /var/log and dmesg, I don't see any clues. > > >Any suggestions for figuring out why Clock is broken and how to fix it? > > >David > It almost sounds like the panel is too long for the monitor. The clock is disappearing off the end of the panel. Is the clock the last thing in panel? Try moving it to the other of the panel, and see if it still disappears. - -- Charlie Kravetz Linux Registered User Number 425914 [http://linuxcounter.net/user/425914.html] Never let anyone steal your DREAM. [http://keepingdreams.com] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQEzBAEBCAAdFiEEG5QK93YKrQMH22ZTiq6LjqbJ0IAFAlmL5WUACgkQiq6LjqbJ 0IDebAf/UDM+FUUFMDHiu9qkqaIq7fMSNr/KghoKRHcM62V3AmAa0Pad0UeNz9/d h7in3Y5hJ87tybWufZn6YkU6+so4d7Nyz7VxIA16ELAHFPzvlmVLAGMkMEVKG0y2 3cl/ynWx3wjaA5TXn3nQRdVbcIo03ftcO7E9lFOB8auToAJex7CxBoGaH3Ikjnrn TsoRHWSJLR1x00vX958gFcyIpd39dQGmQ9HvijqtlBO4m/17DWmIiotGhjHhuMpm TL5vCsoZVx7k5IOZZGjxBzIz6AR+GgtUuPYgc6780LPme2cNwB/k7xYk2q8oBpkG v05M+WlNytS5pSY7hv+ZeXAVJVnqjg== =BpKy -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Debian 9.1 amd64 Xfce panel clock broken
debian-user: I have a Dell Inspiron E1505 laptop with an Intel Core Duo T7400 CPU, 2 GB RAM, 16 GB SSD, and a fresh install of debian-9.1.0-amd64-xfce-CD-1.iso, with all updates and upgrades as of now: 2017-08-09 16:59:07 root@tinkywinky ~ # cat /etc/debian_version 9.1 2017-08-09 16:59:18 root@tinkywinky ~ # uname -a Linux tinkywinky 4.9.0-3-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.9.30-2+deb9u3 (2017-08-06) x86_64 GNU/Linux 2017-08-09 16:59:22 root@tinkywinky ~ # dpkg-query --show xfce4 xfce4 4.12.3 I would like to use the Xfce panel "clock" item. Unfortunately, it is broken: - If I right-click on the Xfce panel and choose "Panel Preferences...", the "Panel" dialog appears. - Selecting Panel -> Items tab, "Clock" appears in the list of panel items. - If I select Panel -> Items -> Clock and click the "Edit the currently selected item" button, the "Clock" dialog appears. - I then configure Clock as follows: Time Settings Timezone PST8PDT Appearance LayoutDigital Tooltip formatWednesday 09 August 2017 Clock Options Format05:04:55 PM Once I have made the above settings, but before choosing "Close", the current time is displayed at the proper location in the Xfce panel. This is what I want. - But when I click "Close", the current time disappears from the panel -- e.g. Clock breaks. Looking in /var/log and dmesg, I don't see any clues. Any suggestions for figuring out why Clock is broken and how to fix it? David
