Re: Firefox and PDF incompatibility
On Fri, 17 Feb 2012 12:22:35 +0100, Merciadri Luca wrote: When opening PDFs documents in Firefox (e.g. by clicking on a PDF link in a webpage), it sometimes happens to my Firefox to stuck when loading the PDF. The PDF seems to be completely downloaded, but does not load in the acrobat plug-in. However, Firefox is still stable and responds correctly in other tabs. Yes, that's a long time known issue :-( It looks like there's some issue with the Firefox-acrobat reader plugin. I noticed this on other computers running Linux and Firefox, even on different distros and acroread versions. I am running Firefox 10.0.1., but have got the same problem on Firefox 10.0. I am running acroread 9.0 but tried with other versions as well. I guess you should now be now running 10.0.2 :-) Well, for your problem, it is known that Acrobat plugin does not work very well in linux (and if you ask me, I'd tell neither it does on windows...) so what I usually do is: a/ Using Evince (or another PDF viewer of your liking), that works like a charm :-) b/ Should I need to use Acrobat Reader, do not use the plugin, just tell Firefox to open the PDF file separately, not embedded within the browser. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jid8a1$69j$9...@dough.gmane.org
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On Friday 17 February 2012 21:23:27 Curt wrote: On 2012-02-17, Bob Proulx b...@proulx.com wrote: [1] The gates of Hell are open night and day; Smooth the descent and easy is the way. But to return, and view the cheerful skies, In this the task and mighty labor lies. -- Virgil, The Aeneid=20 Matthew 5:38 and 39: ...resist not evil... In the passage translated here, Virgil doesn't in fact talk about Hell, nor of good and evil. He talks about the underworld, which is where all the dead go, good as well as evil. And he does not talk of cheerful skies, that too is a translator's addition. He talks of air/breezes in the upper world, in other words simply the world, the land of the living. I find it a little hard to see the connection between that and the injunction to turn the other cheek? Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201202182309.20374.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: Firefox and PDF incompatibility
On Fri, 17 Feb 2012 20:22:07 + (UTC) Walter Hurry walterhu...@lavabit.com wrote: On Fri, 17 Feb 2012 12:01:57 -0500, Tony Baldwin wrote: On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 07:59:49AM -0800, Kelly Clowers wrote: On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 03:22, Merciadri Luca luca.mercia...@student.ulg.ac.be wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, When opening PDFs documents in Firefox (e.g. by clicking on a PDF link in a webpage), it sometimes happens to my Firefox to stuck when loading the PDF. The PDF seems to be completely downloaded, but does not load in the acrobat plug-in. However, Firefox is still stable and responds correctly in other tabs. It looks like there's some issue with the Firefox-acrobat reader plugin. I noticed this on other computers running Linux and Firefox, even on different distros and acroread versions. I am running Firefox 10.0.1., but have got the same problem on Firefox 10.0. I am running acroread 9.0 but tried with other versions as well. Thanks for any info. My first two questions are: 1) Do you really need Adobe Reader features or will Evince or Okular or similar work for you? Poppler-based PDF readers are really very good nowadays. This is my recommendation. acroread is non-free. Install evince or xpdf, and tell ICEWEASEL to use that. Works great here. +1 for Evince (never tried xpdf). Also check out mupdf - may not have as many features as Evince, but it's a delight to use. I'm not having any bloated proprietary crapware Ad*be Acr*bat here, thank you very much. Nor any G**gle Chr*me. Celejar -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120218203548.e87791b7.cele...@gmail.com
Firefox and PDF incompatibility
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, When opening PDFs documents in Firefox (e.g. by clicking on a PDF link in a webpage), it sometimes happens to my Firefox to stuck when loading the PDF. The PDF seems to be completely downloaded, but does not load in the acrobat plug-in. However, Firefox is still stable and responds correctly in other tabs. It looks like there's some issue with the Firefox-acrobat reader plugin. I noticed this on other computers running Linux and Firefox, even on different distros and acroread versions. I am running Firefox 10.0.1., but have got the same problem on Firefox 10.0. I am running acroread 9.0 but tried with other versions as well. Thanks for any info. - -- Merciadri Luca See http://www.student.montefiore.ulg.ac.be/~merciadri/ - -- It is better to die on one's feet than live on one's knees. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Processed by Mailcrypt 3.5.8 http://mailcrypt.sourceforge.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAk8+OHsACgkQM0LLzLt8MhxaTgCfb35kYp789up0e1htk2Jgb10w pzAAoJxDcc2/lMUWf+VsucyWW9QDIFxB =6n2e -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87k43lso04.fsf@merciadriluca-eee.MERCIADRILUCA
Re: Firefox and PDF incompatibility
On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 03:22, Merciadri Luca luca.mercia...@student.ulg.ac.be wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, When opening PDFs documents in Firefox (e.g. by clicking on a PDF link in a webpage), it sometimes happens to my Firefox to stuck when loading the PDF. The PDF seems to be completely downloaded, but does not load in the acrobat plug-in. However, Firefox is still stable and responds correctly in other tabs. It looks like there's some issue with the Firefox-acrobat reader plugin. I noticed this on other computers running Linux and Firefox, even on different distros and acroread versions. I am running Firefox 10.0.1., but have got the same problem on Firefox 10.0. I am running acroread 9.0 but tried with other versions as well. Thanks for any info. My first two questions are: 1) Do you really need Adobe Reader features or will Evince or Okular or similar work for you? Poppler-based PDF readers are really very good nowadays. 2) Why are you opening in the browser? I have never ever found that to work well, with any combo of OS, browser and PDF reader. I either launch the PDF reader as a separate process from the browser, or save the PDF and then open it. PDF-as-plugin is just plain flaky. Cheers, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAFoWM=9b62N6HsTpw0j2-81PSLAkKx_26R9uJOT29OO=g9y...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Firefox and PDF incompatibility
On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 07:59:49AM -0800, Kelly Clowers wrote: On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 03:22, Merciadri Luca luca.mercia...@student.ulg.ac.be wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, When opening PDFs documents in Firefox (e.g. by clicking on a PDF link in a webpage), it sometimes happens to my Firefox to stuck when loading the PDF. The PDF seems to be completely downloaded, but does not load in the acrobat plug-in. However, Firefox is still stable and responds correctly in other tabs. It looks like there's some issue with the Firefox-acrobat reader plugin. I noticed this on other computers running Linux and Firefox, even on different distros and acroread versions. I am running Firefox 10.0.1., but have got the same problem on Firefox 10.0. I am running acroread 9.0 but tried with other versions as well. Thanks for any info. My first two questions are: 1) Do you really need Adobe Reader features or will Evince or Okular or similar work for you? Poppler-based PDF readers are really very good nowadays. This is my recommendation. acroread is non-free. Install evince or xpdf, and tell ICEWEASEL to use that. Works great here. ./tony -- http://www.tonybaldwin.me all tony, all the time! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120217170157.ga26...@deathstar.hsd1.ct.comcast.net
Re: Firefox and PDF incompatibility
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Kelly Clowers kelly.clow...@gmail.com writes: On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 03:22, Merciadri Luca luca.mercia...@student.ulg.ac.be wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, When opening PDFs documents in Firefox (e.g. by clicking on a PDF link in a webpage), it sometimes happens to my Firefox to stuck when loading the PDF. The PDF seems to be completely downloaded, but does not load in the acrobat plug-in. However, Firefox is still stable and responds correctly in other tabs. It looks like there's some issue with the Firefox-acrobat reader plugin. I noticed this on other computers running Linux and Firefox, even on different distros and acroread versions. I am running Firefox 10.0.1., but have got the same problem on Firefox 10.0. I am running acroread 9.0 but tried with other versions as well. Thanks for any info. My first two questions are: 1) Do you really need Adobe Reader features or will Evince or Okular or similar work for you? Poppler-based PDF readers are really very good nowadays. Generally, another would suffice, yes. 2) Why are you opening in the browser? I have never ever found that to work well, with any combo of OS, browser and PDF reader. I either launch the PDF reader as a separate process from the browser, or save the PDF and then open it. PDF-as-plugin is just plain flaky. Okay. But that's a pity anyway. - -- Merciadri Luca See http://www.student.montefiore.ulg.ac.be/~merciadri/ - -- If it's too good to be true, then it probably is. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Processed by Mailcrypt 3.5.8 http://mailcrypt.sourceforge.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAk8+hlsACgkQM0LLzLt8Mhx+YgCePrXop1vMQZQo3NcJj13hxUYW kDEAni5bhE524H+afNf84Q0ez+Yzj8m3 =5fMy -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87haypien8.fsf@merciadriluca-station.MERCIADRILUCA
Re: Firefox and PDF incompatibility
On 2012-02-17, Kelly Clowers kelly.clow...@gmail.com wrote: 2) Why are you opening in the browser? I have never ever found that to work well, with any combo of OS, browser and PDF reader. I either I have found it to work very well in google-chrome, with the latter's built-in pdf reader (should I say the latter when there's no former? Oh well). launch the PDF reader as a separate process from the browser, or save the PDF and then open it. PDF-as-plugin is just plain flaky. I find it superior to invoking a separate process; opening a pdf in chrome is as smooth as opening a regular html page. YMMV (and has and does, apparently). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/slrnjjt5jh.4jt.cu...@einstein.electron.org
Re: Firefox and PDF incompatibility
Curt wrote: Kelly Clowers wrote: 2) Why are you opening in the browser? I have never ever found that to work well, with any combo of OS, browser and PDF reader. I either I have found it to work very well in google-chrome, with the latter's built-in pdf reader (should I say the latter when there's no former? Oh well). But since that is nonfree it isn't in the free Chromium. AFAIK only the nonfree Chrome has the builtin Flash and Adobe and other such components. AFAIK that is the difference between Chrome and Chromium. Bob signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Firefox and PDF incompatibility
On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 10:03, Curt cu...@free.fr wrote: On 2012-02-17, Kelly Clowers kelly.clow...@gmail.com wrote: launch the PDF reader as a separate process from the browser, or save the PDF and then open it. PDF-as-plugin is just plain flaky. I find it superior to invoking a separate process; opening a pdf in chrome is as smooth as opening a regular html page. YMMV (and has and does, apparently). Well, I have never used Chrome enough to use it's PDF reader. I am very conservative when it comes to browser UI, the more it is like the Mozilla (not FF) Modern theme circa 1.0, the happier I am, so Chrome is right out, and SeaMonkey is in ;-) But FF2-4, IE6-9, Moz1-SM2.0 on Linux and Windows have all given me problems when running PDFs in the browser. Others my be luckier. Cheers, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAFoWM=_AN27UdPZvX-kSgHVjiax1Uczukot2-H_Z78nZmN=f...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Firefox and PDF incompatibility
On 2012-02-17, Bob Proulx b...@proulx.com wrote: But since that is nonfree it isn't in the free Chromium. AFAIK only the nonfree Chrome has the builtin Flash and Adobe and other such components. AFAIK that is the difference between Chrome and Chromium. I was responding to an unqualified statement (I didn't see the nonfree restriction, if it existed). google-chrome in linux has no builtin Flash (at least not in the 64 bit version), nor does it have builtin Adobe. The pdf reader it uses by default, is, well, the Chrome PDF Viewer, a builtin house plugin. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/slrnjjtbqq.4rp.cu...@einstein.electron.org
Re: Firefox and PDF incompatibility
On 2012-02-17, Kelly Clowers kelly.clow...@gmail.com wrote: But FF2-4, IE6-9, Moz1-SM2.0 on Linux and Windows have all given me problems when running PDFs in the browser. Others my be luckier. Well, the built-in, home-made Chrome PDF Viewer plugin is quite nice and smooth, and is even capable of filling in fillable forms, which you cannot print directly for some reason (all the fields will be empty), but which you can save (along with the info you've typed into the form, I mean) by printing the document with the option Print to Pdf. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/slrnjjtch1.4rp.cu...@einstein.electron.org
Re: Firefox and PDF incompatibility
On Fri, 17 Feb 2012 12:01:57 -0500, Tony Baldwin wrote: On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 07:59:49AM -0800, Kelly Clowers wrote: On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 03:22, Merciadri Luca luca.mercia...@student.ulg.ac.be wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, When opening PDFs documents in Firefox (e.g. by clicking on a PDF link in a webpage), it sometimes happens to my Firefox to stuck when loading the PDF. The PDF seems to be completely downloaded, but does not load in the acrobat plug-in. However, Firefox is still stable and responds correctly in other tabs. It looks like there's some issue with the Firefox-acrobat reader plugin. I noticed this on other computers running Linux and Firefox, even on different distros and acroread versions. I am running Firefox 10.0.1., but have got the same problem on Firefox 10.0. I am running acroread 9.0 but tried with other versions as well. Thanks for any info. My first two questions are: 1) Do you really need Adobe Reader features or will Evince or Okular or similar work for you? Poppler-based PDF readers are really very good nowadays. This is my recommendation. acroread is non-free. Install evince or xpdf, and tell ICEWEASEL to use that. Works great here. +1 for Evince (never tried xpdf). I'm not having any bloated proprietary crapware Ad*be Acr*bat here, thank you very much. Nor any G**gle Chr*me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jhmctf$fap$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: Firefox and PDF incompatibility
Curt wrote: Bob Proulx wrote: But since that is nonfree it isn't in the free Chromium. AFAIK only the nonfree Chrome has the builtin Flash and Adobe and other such components. AFAIK that is the difference between Chrome and Chromium. I was responding to an unqualified statement (I didn't see the nonfree restriction, if it existed). But by now you should know that advocates of free(dom) software [such as myself] can be an annoying bunch. Like a preacher where every day is Sunday sermon day we will try to keep people from sliding down the slippery slope without thinking about it[1]. :-) So obviously when I heard you extolling the virtues of a nonfree program I didn't want it to go unnoticed that it was nonfree. It is an important distinction that should not go unnoticed. After all this is a Debian mailing list and Debian is all about free(dom) software. google-chrome in linux has no builtin Flash (at least not in the 64 bit version), nor does it have builtin Adobe. The pdf reader it uses by default, is, well, the Chrome PDF Viewer, a builtin house plugin. I did not know that. Thanks for the information. On Windows that was one of their original talking points about Chrome was that it was fully integrated and so didn't need to keep external components such as Flash upgraded separately. It was supposed to be one stop shopping. And therefore more secure since Chrome would upgrade itself and therefore the entire Internet bundle would be always up to date. I assumed it was the same on GNU/Linux versions too. If it isn't then I wonder what is the real difference then? What makes Chrome nonfree? In Chromium if I open a pdf document it will open an external document viewer to handle it. Evince in my case. Bob [1] The gates of Hell are open night and day; Smooth the descent and easy is the way. But to return, and view the cheerful skies, In this the task and mighty labor lies. -- Virgil, The Aeneid signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Firefox and PDF incompatibility
On 2012-02-17, Bob Proulx b...@proulx.com wrote: [1] The gates of Hell are open night and day; Smooth the descent and easy is the way. But to return, and view the cheerful skies, In this the task and mighty labor lies. -- Virgil, The Aeneid=20 Matthew 5:38 and 39: ...resist not evil... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/slrnjjthb3.52h.cu...@einstein.electron.org
