Re: KDE program 'klipper' is missing from Jessie to Stretch

[Keith Christian]

On Thu, Aug 15, 2019 at 11:39 AM Bob Weber  wrote:

> On 8/15/19 9:49 AM, Keith Christian wrote:
>
> Bob,
>
> Thank you.
>
> I assume the clipboard application that installs by default on stretch can
> be removed and replaced with the (far superior, IMHO) klipper app?
>
> Or can (or should?) the two clipboard applications coexist?
>
> Keith
>
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 14, 2019 at 4:48 PM Bob Weber  wrote:
>
>> On 8/14/19 6:27 PM, Keith Christian wrote:
>>
>> klipper was a feature-rich clipboard manager but I can't find it in Stretch.
>>
>> This is all I see:
>>
>> $ apt-cache search klipper
>> cairo-dock-clipper-plug-in - Clipper plug-in for Cairo-dock
>>
>> cairo-dock-clipper-plug-in claims to be a clone of klipper but the
>> features seem to be hidden.
>>
>> Anyone know if 'klipper' is deprecated or simply not in Debian?  Not
>> much found on web searches even targeting mail.kde.org mailing lists.
>>
>>
>> Its in plasma-workspace now.  Latest update:
>>
>> [2019-02-24] plasma-workspace 4:5.14.5.1-1 MIGRATED to testing
>>
>> It should have been installed with kde/plasma. "apt-file search klipper"
>> finds it.
>>
>>
>>
> I would be careful trying to remove klipper.  The other files in
> plasma-workspace are very important.
>
> apt-file list plasma-workspace:
>
> plasma-workspace: /usr/bin/gmenudbusmenuproxy
> plasma-workspace: /usr/bin/kcheckrunning
> plasma-workspace: /usr/bin/kcminit
> plasma-workspace: /usr/bin/kcminit_startup
> plasma-workspace: /usr/bin/kdostartupconfig5
> plasma-workspace: /usr/bin/klipper
> plasma-workspace: /usr/bin/krunner
> plasma-workspace: /usr/bin/ksmserver
> plasma-workspace: /usr/bin/ksplashqml
> plasma-workspace: /usr/bin/kstartupconfig5
> plasma-workspace: /usr/bin/kuiserver5
> plasma-workspace: /usr/bin/plasma_waitforname
> plasma-workspace: /usr/bin/plasmashell
> plasma-workspace: /usr/bin/plasmawindowed
> plasma-workspace: /usr/bin/startkde
> plasma-workspace: /usr/bin/systemmonitor
> plasma-workspace: /usr/bin/xembedsniproxy
>
> These are just the ones in /usr/bin.  If you try to remove
> plasma-workspace then kde would be gone.
>
> The new klipper seems to have plenty of options.  I use Alt-C -- Open
> klipper at mouse position  a lot (not sure if that is the default).  Makes
> it very easy to see and change what will be pasted.  I run testing here and
> didn't notice the change to the new klipper.  I see the older klipper
> package was removed back in 2015 as part of kde-workspace.
>
>
> --
>>
>>
>> *...Bob*
>>
>
> --
>
>
> *...Bob*
>


Bob,

Thanks for the extra information.

I could not see “klipper” in the process list so I assumed that was not
running.  But now I see that it actually is klipper itself.

It looks like the options are not set for full expression of klipper’s
capability, so I thought it was a clone.

Appreciate the feedback.

Keith


>

Re: KDE program 'klipper' is missing from Jessie to Stretch

[Bob Weber]

On 8/15/19 9:49 AM, Keith Christian wrote:

Bob,

Thank you.

I assume the clipboard application that installs by default on stretch can be 
removed and replaced with the (far superior, IMHO) klipper app?


Or can (or should?) the two clipboard applications coexist?

Keith



On Wed, Aug 14, 2019 at 4:48 PM Bob Weber > wrote:


On 8/14/19 6:27 PM, Keith Christian wrote:

klipper was a feature-rich clipboard manager but I can't find it in Stretch.

This is all I see:

$ apt-cache search klipper
cairo-dock-clipper-plug-in - Clipper plug-in for Cairo-dock

cairo-dock-clipper-plug-in claims to be a clone of klipper but the
features seem to be hidden.

Anyone know if 'klipper' is deprecated or simply not in Debian?  Not
much found on web searches even targetingmail.kde.org  
  mailing lists.


Its in plasma-workspace now.  Latest update:

[2019-02-24] plasma-workspace 4:5.14.5.1-1 MIGRATED to testing

It should have been installed with kde/plasma. "apt-file search klipper"
finds it.


I would be careful trying to remove klipper.  The other files in 
plasma-workspace are very important.


apt-file list plasma-workspace:

plasma-workspace: /usr/bin/gmenudbusmenuproxy
plasma-workspace: /usr/bin/kcheckrunning
plasma-workspace: /usr/bin/kcminit
plasma-workspace: /usr/bin/kcminit_startup
plasma-workspace: /usr/bin/kdostartupconfig5
plasma-workspace: /usr/bin/klipper
plasma-workspace: /usr/bin/krunner
plasma-workspace: /usr/bin/ksmserver
plasma-workspace: /usr/bin/ksplashqml
plasma-workspace: /usr/bin/kstartupconfig5
plasma-workspace: /usr/bin/kuiserver5
plasma-workspace: /usr/bin/plasma_waitforname
plasma-workspace: /usr/bin/plasmashell
plasma-workspace: /usr/bin/plasmawindowed
plasma-workspace: /usr/bin/startkde
plasma-workspace: /usr/bin/systemmonitor
plasma-workspace: /usr/bin/xembedsniproxy

These are just the ones in /usr/bin.  If you try to remove plasma-workspace then 
kde would be gone.


The new klipper seems to have plenty of options.  I use Alt-C -- Open klipper at 
mouse position  a lot (not sure if that is the default).  Makes it very easy to 
see and change what will be pasted.  I run testing here and didn't notice the 
change to the new klipper.  I see the older klipper package was removed back in 
2015 as part of kde-workspace.


-- 



*...Bob*



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*...Bob*

Re: KDE program 'klipper' is missing from Jessie to Stretch

[Brad Rogers]

On Thu, 15 Aug 2019 07:49:12 -0600
Keith Christian  wrote:

Hello Keith,

>Or can (or should?) the two clipboard applications coexist?

IIRC (from when I installed klipper, a long, lng time ago), they
won't co-exist.  IOW, installation of klipper will require the removal
of it predecessor.

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Re: KDE program 'klipper' is missing from Jessie to Stretch

[Keith Christian]

Bob,

Thank you.

I assume the clipboard application that installs by default on stretch can
be removed and replaced with the (far superior, IMHO) klipper app?

Or can (or should?) the two clipboard applications coexist?

Keith



On Wed, Aug 14, 2019 at 4:48 PM Bob Weber  wrote:

> On 8/14/19 6:27 PM, Keith Christian wrote:
>
> klipper was a feature-rich clipboard manager but I can't find it in Stretch.
>
> This is all I see:
>
> $ apt-cache search klipper
> cairo-dock-clipper-plug-in - Clipper plug-in for Cairo-dock
>
> cairo-dock-clipper-plug-in claims to be a clone of klipper but the
> features seem to be hidden.
>
> Anyone know if 'klipper' is deprecated or simply not in Debian?  Not
> much found on web searches even targeting mail.kde.org mailing lists.
>
>
> Its in plasma-workspace now.  Latest update:
>
> [2019-02-24] plasma-workspace 4:5.14.5.1-1 MIGRATED to testing
>
> It should have been installed with kde/plasma. "apt-file search klipper"
> finds it.
>
>
> --
>
>
> *...Bob*
>

Re: KDE program 'klipper' is missing from Jessie to Stretch

[Bob Weber]

On 8/14/19 6:27 PM, Keith Christian wrote:

klipper was a feature-rich clipboard manager but I can't find it in Stretch.

This is all I see:

$ apt-cache search klipper
cairo-dock-clipper-plug-in - Clipper plug-in for Cairo-dock

cairo-dock-clipper-plug-in claims to be a clone of klipper but the
features seem to be hidden.

Anyone know if 'klipper' is deprecated or simply not in Debian?  Not
much found on web searches even targeting mail.kde.org mailing lists.


Its in plasma-workspace now.  Latest update:

[2019-02-24] plasma-workspace 4:5.14.5.1-1 MIGRATED to testing

It should have been installed with kde/plasma. "apt-file search klipper" finds 
it.

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*...Bob*