Re: Links browser, was lynx - not all sites readable
I can open http://www.healingwiththemasters.com/ with elinks but not with lynx or links. Regards Johann.
Re: Links browser, was lynx - not all sites readable
On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 10:43:02PM -0400, Karen Lewellen wrote: > Hi Dutch, > I am not sure I agree with the java script focus. after all that site will > work in lynx, when I turn off the send user agent header option, just like I > suggested to Hans. > why would it work in a non graphical environment with lynx, if I take the > above referenced step if Java script is not involved under those > circumstances? > I cannot say as to the graphical ones, I do not have them. > No, it is likely the user agent string. If I set links' user agent string to fake firefox, the site will load. > > On Thu, 15 Sep 2016, Dutch Ingraham wrote: > > > On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 07:57:27PM -0400, Karen Lewellen wrote: > > > Hi Dutch, > > > > > > Something told me to try my example again before I shared it, try this in > > > links. > > > > > > www.healingwiththemasters.com > > > I just tried and got the 403 forbidden error. > > > > Yes, I get the same thing. Note that if you turn off javascript on your > > full-graphical browser (Firefox, etc), that same site will not > > error-out, but will likely not display anything, either. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As for Walmart.com allowing the links browser, I am afraid that matters > > > not > > > as I am in Canada and my reference is to the Canadian site. > > > My speech states that the issue is a cookies one, providing the offer of > > > viewing the flyer without cookies. > > > I will check your resource for the user agent question. > > > Thanks, > > > Karen > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 15 Sep 2016, Dutch Ingraham wrote: > > > > > > > On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 06:55:25PM -0400, Karen Lewellen wrote: > > > > > Hi Dutch, > > > > > The forbidden site issue I encounter is not the one Hans referenced, > > > > > but > > > > > others. > > > > > take > > > > > masterworkshealing.com > > > > > > > > I can visit that site with links. > > > > > > > > > for example, > > > > > So the idea would be an option that I could change, as I directed > > > > > Hans to > > > > > make a short term change to the send user agent header one in lynx. > > > > > I realize naturally there are times when the user agent header needs > > > > > to be > > > > > sent. Likely why Lynx does not make this change perminent. what > > > > > about in > > > > > links though? > > > > > > > > See http://links.twibright.com/user_en.html#subch-network-options > > > > > > > > > > > > > As for storing cookies, indeed, I am wondering what to do if I try > > > > > visiting a site and am not allowed to continue because the browser > > > > > will not > > > > > accept cookies...as in literary says as much. > > > > > for example, > > > > > www.walmart.ca > > > > > will not even move forward in links for this reason. > > > > > > > > On my machine, that site is not viewable in the standard links config > > > > due to > > > > lack of javascript, not cookies. Interestingly, walmart.com doesn't > > > > have that > > > > issue. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am not sure if the reference you place below will explain the user > > > > > agent > > > > > header question, or the cookies one? > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > Karen > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 15 Sep 2016, Dutch Ingraham wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 04:47:01PM -0400, Karen Lewellen wrote: > > > > > > > Hi Dutch, > > > > > > > Still, that brings up two questions of my own regarding links. > > > > > > > first, does the browser still not accept cookies? > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm not sure of your definition of "accept," but in the general > > > > > > sense links does > > > > > > not store and set cookies. This post [1] seems to make a > > > > > > distinction, though, > > > > > > between persistent cookies and volatile cookies. > > > > > > > > > > > > > and second, what is the comparative solution to Hans' forbidden > > > > > > > site > > > > > > > problem? > > > > > > > > > > > > I had no problem visiting nvidia.de/Treiber with links. > > > > > > > > > > > > > I do not know if I can alter the send user agent command in > > > > > > > links. > > > > > > > > > > > > links -> setup -> Network options -> HTTP options -> Header options > > > > > > > > > > > > [1] https://superuser.com/questions/478633/links-cookie-location > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 15 Sep 2016, Dutch Ingraham wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 09:47:14AM -0400, Karen Lewellen wrote: > > > > > > > > > Links is no longer updated, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Where did you get this information? As far as I can see, links > > > > > > > > was updated on > > > > > > > > July 1, 2016.[1][2] Does that qualify as "no longer updated"? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Links_(web_browser) > > > > > > > > [2] https://www.archlinux.org/packages/core/x86_64/links/ > >
Re: Links browser, was lynx - not all sites readable
Hi Dutch, I am not sure I agree with the java script focus. after all that site will work in lynx, when I turn off the send user agent header option, just like I suggested to Hans. why would it work in a non graphical environment with lynx, if I take the above referenced step if Java script is not involved under those circumstances? I cannot say as to the graphical ones, I do not have them. On Thu, 15 Sep 2016, Dutch Ingraham wrote: On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 07:57:27PM -0400, Karen Lewellen wrote: Hi Dutch, Something told me to try my example again before I shared it, try this in links. www.healingwiththemasters.com I just tried and got the 403 forbidden error. Yes, I get the same thing. Note that if you turn off javascript on your full-graphical browser (Firefox, etc), that same site will not error-out, but will likely not display anything, either. As for Walmart.com allowing the links browser, I am afraid that matters not as I am in Canada and my reference is to the Canadian site. My speech states that the issue is a cookies one, providing the offer of viewing the flyer without cookies. I will check your resource for the user agent question. Thanks, Karen On Thu, 15 Sep 2016, Dutch Ingraham wrote: On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 06:55:25PM -0400, Karen Lewellen wrote: Hi Dutch, The forbidden site issue I encounter is not the one Hans referenced, but others. take masterworkshealing.com I can visit that site with links. for example, So the idea would be an option that I could change, as I directed Hans to make a short term change to the send user agent header one in lynx. I realize naturally there are times when the user agent header needs to be sent. Likely why Lynx does not make this change perminent. what about in links though? See http://links.twibright.com/user_en.html#subch-network-options As for storing cookies, indeed, I am wondering what to do if I try visiting a site and am not allowed to continue because the browser will not accept cookies...as in literary says as much. for example, www.walmart.ca will not even move forward in links for this reason. On my machine, that site is not viewable in the standard links config due to lack of javascript, not cookies. Interestingly, walmart.com doesn't have that issue. I am not sure if the reference you place below will explain the user agent header question, or the cookies one? Thanks, Karen On Thu, 15 Sep 2016, Dutch Ingraham wrote: On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 04:47:01PM -0400, Karen Lewellen wrote: Hi Dutch, Still, that brings up two questions of my own regarding links. first, does the browser still not accept cookies? I'm not sure of your definition of "accept," but in the general sense links does not store and set cookies. This post [1] seems to make a distinction, though, between persistent cookies and volatile cookies. and second, what is the comparative solution to Hans' forbidden site problem? I had no problem visiting nvidia.de/Treiber with links. I do not know if I can alter the send user agent command in links. links -> setup -> Network options -> HTTP options -> Header options [1] https://superuser.com/questions/478633/links-cookie-location On Thu, 15 Sep 2016, Dutch Ingraham wrote: On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 09:47:14AM -0400, Karen Lewellen wrote: Links is no longer updated, Where did you get this information? As far as I can see, links was updated on July 1, 2016.[1][2] Does that qualify as "no longer updated"? [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Links_(web_browser) [2] https://www.archlinux.org/packages/core/x86_64/links/
Re: Links browser, was lynx - not all sites readable
On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 07:57:27PM -0400, Karen Lewellen wrote: > Hi Dutch, > > Something told me to try my example again before I shared it, try this in > links. > > www.healingwiththemasters.com > I just tried and got the 403 forbidden error. Yes, I get the same thing. Note that if you turn off javascript on your full-graphical browser (Firefox, etc), that same site will not error-out, but will likely not display anything, either. > As for Walmart.com allowing the links browser, I am afraid that matters not > as I am in Canada and my reference is to the Canadian site. > My speech states that the issue is a cookies one, providing the offer of > viewing the flyer without cookies. > I will check your resource for the user agent question. > Thanks, > Karen > > > On Thu, 15 Sep 2016, Dutch Ingraham wrote: > > > On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 06:55:25PM -0400, Karen Lewellen wrote: > > > Hi Dutch, > > > The forbidden site issue I encounter is not the one Hans referenced, but > > > others. > > > take > > > masterworkshealing.com > > > > I can visit that site with links. > > > > > for example, > > > So the idea would be an option that I could change, as I directed Hans to > > > make a short term change to the send user agent header one in lynx. > > > I realize naturally there are times when the user agent header needs to > > > be > > > sent. Likely why Lynx does not make this change perminent. what about in > > > links though? > > > > See http://links.twibright.com/user_en.html#subch-network-options > > > > > > > As for storing cookies, indeed, I am wondering what to do if I try > > > visiting a site and am not allowed to continue because the browser will > > > not > > > accept cookies...as in literary says as much. > > > for example, > > > www.walmart.ca > > > will not even move forward in links for this reason. > > > > On my machine, that site is not viewable in the standard links config due to > > lack of javascript, not cookies. Interestingly, walmart.com doesn't have > > that > > issue. > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am not sure if the reference you place below will explain the user agent > > > header question, or the cookies one? > > > Thanks, > > > Karen > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 15 Sep 2016, Dutch Ingraham wrote: > > > > > > > On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 04:47:01PM -0400, Karen Lewellen wrote: > > > > > Hi Dutch, > > > > > Still, that brings up two questions of my own regarding links. > > > > > first, does the browser still not accept cookies? > > > > > > > > I'm not sure of your definition of "accept," but in the general sense > > > > links does > > > > not store and set cookies. This post [1] seems to make a distinction, > > > > though, > > > > between persistent cookies and volatile cookies. > > > > > > > > > and second, what is the comparative solution to Hans' forbidden site > > > > > problem? > > > > > > > > I had no problem visiting nvidia.de/Treiber with links. > > > > > > > > > I do not know if I can alter the send user agent command in links. > > > > > > > > links -> setup -> Network options -> HTTP options -> Header options > > > > > > > > [1] https://superuser.com/questions/478633/links-cookie-location > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 15 Sep 2016, Dutch Ingraham wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 09:47:14AM -0400, Karen Lewellen wrote: > > > > > > > Links is no longer updated, > > > > > > > > > > > > Where did you get this information? As far as I can see, links was > > > > > > updated on > > > > > > July 1, 2016.[1][2] Does that qualify as "no longer updated"? > > > > > > > > > > > > [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Links_(web_browser) > > > > > > [2] https://www.archlinux.org/packages/core/x86_64/links/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
Re: Links browser, was lynx - not all sites readable
Hi Dutch, Something told me to try my example again before I shared it, try this in links. www.healingwiththemasters.com I just tried and got the 403 forbidden error. As for Walmart.com allowing the links browser, I am afraid that matters not as I am in Canada and my reference is to the Canadian site. My speech states that the issue is a cookies one, providing the offer of viewing the flyer without cookies. I will check your resource for the user agent question. Thanks, Karen On Thu, 15 Sep 2016, Dutch Ingraham wrote: On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 06:55:25PM -0400, Karen Lewellen wrote: Hi Dutch, The forbidden site issue I encounter is not the one Hans referenced, but others. take masterworkshealing.com I can visit that site with links. for example, So the idea would be an option that I could change, as I directed Hans to make a short term change to the send user agent header one in lynx. I realize naturally there are times when the user agent header needs to be sent. Likely why Lynx does not make this change perminent. what about in links though? See http://links.twibright.com/user_en.html#subch-network-options As for storing cookies, indeed, I am wondering what to do if I try visiting a site and am not allowed to continue because the browser will not accept cookies...as in literary says as much. for example, www.walmart.ca will not even move forward in links for this reason. On my machine, that site is not viewable in the standard links config due to lack of javascript, not cookies. Interestingly, walmart.com doesn't have that issue. I am not sure if the reference you place below will explain the user agent header question, or the cookies one? Thanks, Karen On Thu, 15 Sep 2016, Dutch Ingraham wrote: On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 04:47:01PM -0400, Karen Lewellen wrote: Hi Dutch, Still, that brings up two questions of my own regarding links. first, does the browser still not accept cookies? I'm not sure of your definition of "accept," but in the general sense links does not store and set cookies. This post [1] seems to make a distinction, though, between persistent cookies and volatile cookies. and second, what is the comparative solution to Hans' forbidden site problem? I had no problem visiting nvidia.de/Treiber with links. I do not know if I can alter the send user agent command in links. links -> setup -> Network options -> HTTP options -> Header options [1] https://superuser.com/questions/478633/links-cookie-location On Thu, 15 Sep 2016, Dutch Ingraham wrote: On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 09:47:14AM -0400, Karen Lewellen wrote: Links is no longer updated, Where did you get this information? As far as I can see, links was updated on July 1, 2016.[1][2] Does that qualify as "no longer updated"? [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Links_(web_browser) [2] https://www.archlinux.org/packages/core/x86_64/links/
Re: Links browser, was lynx - not all sites readable
On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 06:55:25PM -0400, Karen Lewellen wrote: > Hi Dutch, > The forbidden site issue I encounter is not the one Hans referenced, but > others. > take > masterworkshealing.com I can visit that site with links. > for example, > So the idea would be an option that I could change, as I directed Hans to > make a short term change to the send user agent header one in lynx. > I realize naturally there are times when the user agent header needs to be > sent. Likely why Lynx does not make this change perminent. what about in > links though? See http://links.twibright.com/user_en.html#subch-network-options > As for storing cookies, indeed, I am wondering what to do if I try > visiting a site and am not allowed to continue because the browser will not > accept cookies...as in literary says as much. > for example, > www.walmart.ca > will not even move forward in links for this reason. On my machine, that site is not viewable in the standard links config due to lack of javascript, not cookies. Interestingly, walmart.com doesn't have that issue. > I am not sure if the reference you place below will explain the user agent > header question, or the cookies one? > Thanks, > Karen > > > On Thu, 15 Sep 2016, Dutch Ingraham wrote: > > > On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 04:47:01PM -0400, Karen Lewellen wrote: > > > Hi Dutch, > > > Still, that brings up two questions of my own regarding links. > > > first, does the browser still not accept cookies? > > > > I'm not sure of your definition of "accept," but in the general sense links > > does > > not store and set cookies. This post [1] seems to make a distinction, > > though, > > between persistent cookies and volatile cookies. > > > > > and second, what is the comparative solution to Hans' forbidden site > > > problem? > > > > I had no problem visiting nvidia.de/Treiber with links. > > > > > I do not know if I can alter the send user agent command in links. > > > > links -> setup -> Network options -> HTTP options -> Header options > > > > [1] https://superuser.com/questions/478633/links-cookie-location > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 15 Sep 2016, Dutch Ingraham wrote: > > > > > > > On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 09:47:14AM -0400, Karen Lewellen wrote: > > > > > Links is no longer updated, > > > > > > > > Where did you get this information? As far as I can see, links was > > > > updated on > > > > July 1, 2016.[1][2] Does that qualify as "no longer updated"? > > > > > > > > [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Links_(web_browser) > > > > [2] https://www.archlinux.org/packages/core/x86_64/links/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
Re: Links browser, was lynx - not all sites readable
Hi Dutch, The forbidden site issue I encounter is not the one Hans referenced, but others. take masterworkshealing.com for example, So the idea would be an option that I could change, as I directed Hans to make a short term change to the send user agent header one in lynx. I realize naturally there are times when the user agent header needs to be sent. Likely why Lynx does not make this change perminent. what about in links though? As for storing cookies, indeed, I am wondering what to do if I try visiting a site and am not allowed to continue because the browser will not accept cookies...as in literary says as much. for example, www.walmart.ca will not even move forward in links for this reason. I am not sure if the reference you place below will explain the user agent header question, or the cookies one? Thanks, Karen On Thu, 15 Sep 2016, Dutch Ingraham wrote: On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 04:47:01PM -0400, Karen Lewellen wrote: Hi Dutch, Still, that brings up two questions of my own regarding links. first, does the browser still not accept cookies? I'm not sure of your definition of "accept," but in the general sense links does not store and set cookies. This post [1] seems to make a distinction, though, between persistent cookies and volatile cookies. and second, what is the comparative solution to Hans' forbidden site problem? I had no problem visiting nvidia.de/Treiber with links. I do not know if I can alter the send user agent command in links. links -> setup -> Network options -> HTTP options -> Header options [1] https://superuser.com/questions/478633/links-cookie-location On Thu, 15 Sep 2016, Dutch Ingraham wrote: On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 09:47:14AM -0400, Karen Lewellen wrote: Links is no longer updated, Where did you get this information? As far as I can see, links was updated on July 1, 2016.[1][2] Does that qualify as "no longer updated"? [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Links_(web_browser) [2] https://www.archlinux.org/packages/core/x86_64/links/
Re: Links browser, was lynx - not all sites readable
On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 04:47:01PM -0400, Karen Lewellen wrote: > Hi Dutch, > Still, that brings up two questions of my own regarding links. > first, does the browser still not accept cookies? I'm not sure of your definition of "accept," but in the general sense links does not store and set cookies. This post [1] seems to make a distinction, though, between persistent cookies and volatile cookies. > and second, what is the comparative solution to Hans' forbidden site > problem? I had no problem visiting nvidia.de/Treiber with links. > I do not know if I can alter the send user agent command in links. links -> setup -> Network options -> HTTP options -> Header options [1] https://superuser.com/questions/478633/links-cookie-location > > On Thu, 15 Sep 2016, Dutch Ingraham wrote: > > > On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 09:47:14AM -0400, Karen Lewellen wrote: > > > Links is no longer updated, > > > > Where did you get this information? As far as I can see, links was updated > > on > > July 1, 2016.[1][2] Does that qualify as "no longer updated"? > > > > [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Links_(web_browser) > > [2] https://www.archlinux.org/packages/core/x86_64/links/ > > > > >
