Re: Recomended dual head video card

2004-10-07 Thread Bill Carlson
On Tue, 5 Oct 2004, Dana J. Laude wrote:

 
 I have a matrox G450 that I picked off eBay for $35 and it works quite
 well and the price was right. It's a older card though, so for gaming 
 I wouldn't really recommend it... although the card works ok, 3D
 stuff is a tad on the slow side.  For normal stuff it works great 
 though, and 2 monitors are very cool.. which I was running under 
 debian unstable with windowmaker.

I run a G450 dual head, be warned there is a problem with gamma correction 
on the second head. From what I gather it is a hardware limitation.

If you don't need gamma correction, not a problem. For my setup with BenQ 
FP951s, they were way too bright and the OSD wouldn't adjust down enough.

Later,


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Re: Recomended dual head video card

2004-10-07 Thread Dana J. Laude
On Thursday 07 October 2004 15:42, Bill Carlson wrote:

 I run a G450 dual head, be warned there is a problem with gamma
 correction on the second head. From what I gather it is a hardware
 limitation.

 If you don't need gamma correction, not a problem. For my setup
 with BenQ FP951s, they were way too bright and the OSD wouldn't
 adjust down enough.

Thanks for the info Bill.  That would explain the excessive brightness
on the second display here.  One of these days I'll have to look for
a newer video card.

Dana


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Re: Recomended dual head video card

2004-10-07 Thread Nick Hastings
Hi,

* Bill Carlson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [041008 06:44]:
 On Tue, 5 Oct 2004, Dana J. Laude wrote:
 
  
  I have a matrox G450 that I picked off eBay for $35 and it works quite
  well and the price was right. It's a older card though, so for gaming 
  I wouldn't really recommend it... although the card works ok, 3D
  stuff is a tad on the slow side.  For normal stuff it works great 
  though, and 2 monitors are very cool.. which I was running under 
  debian unstable with windowmaker.
 
 I run a G450 dual head, be warned there is a problem with gamma correction 
 on the second head. From what I gather it is a hardware limitation.

So this problem is exclusive to the G450?

If so I think I will get a P750. It has dual DVI and the option of running
a third output for video or RGB.

Thanks for the input everyone.

Cheers,

Nick.

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Re: Recomended dual head video card

2004-10-05 Thread Paolo Alexis Falcone
On Tue, 5 Oct 2004 14:44:49 +0900, Nick Hastings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
for reasons I won't bother going into I'm about turn a server
 machine into a workstation (and perhaps occasional game machine).
 
 There are two nice 1280x1024 17 inch digital LCD displays available
 (Mitsubishi RTD179S) [1], so I thought I'd go out and get myself a nice
 dual head video card. But which to choose? My budget is fairly generous.
 
 My machines motherboard has and AGP slot so I thought an AGP card would
 be best.
 
 I've had a bit of a look at the ATI web site and it seems that the
 FireGL Z1-128 [2] might suit me well.
 
 I briefly looked into nvidia cards, but seem to remember there may be
 some issues with drivers for 2.6 kernels.
 
 I saw the nvidia vs ati thread a few days ago, but there seemed to be
 little in the way of conclusions or specific reports of experiences
 with cards. Anyone have anything to add?
 
 Any insights would be much appreciated. This is the first time that I've
 ever had to choose a video card.
 
 Please note that I'm not scared of compiling kernels or running bleeding
 edge software: I've been using 2.6 since the pre days and Debian
 unstable for about 4 years.

Matrox cards are quite good for dual displays, although the price
comes at a premium too.


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Re: Recomended dual head video card

2004-10-05 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Tue, 05 Oct 2004, Nick Hastings wrote:
 I've had a bit of a look at the ATI web site and it seems that the
 FireGL Z1-128 [2] might suit me well.

Either that, or any nVidia card with dual outputs. You can have it dual-DVI
or DVI+VGA (the DVI port has the VGA signals as well, and the cards come
with an adaptor plug).

 I briefly looked into nvidia cards, but seem to remember there may be
 some issues with drivers for 2.6 kernels.

Not anymore.  And they are the fastest ones you will find. As long as you
don't mind relying on non-free drivers, because if you do, the FireGL *may*
be a much better choice (I don't know if it uses free drivers or not).

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Re: Recomended dual head video card

2004-10-05 Thread Johann Koenig
On Tuesday October  5 at 02:44pm
Nick Hastings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 My machines motherboard has and AGP slot so I thought an AGP card
 would be best. 

Another alternative is to run two video cards. I did that for a long
time, with an Nvidia GeForce 4 MX440 SE (AGP) and a cheap Matrox (PCI),
then replaced the Matrox with an Nvidia TNT2(PCI). Both setups worked
great, there was only a little trouble with the kernel switching to the
PCI card if I set the bios to use AGP, so I just set it to use PCI all
the time.

For the Nvidia cards, I used Nvidia's non-free drivers. They work
awesome. For the Matrox, I just used the in-tree kernel driver. Worked
just fine.

Also, don't try dual-booting this with Win2k. I think I got it working,
but it sure sucked.

But if money is not an obstacle, I would start with looking for used
Matrox cards on Ebay. You should be able to get something pretty decent
for less than retail.
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Re: Recomended dual head video card

2004-10-05 Thread Dana J. Laude
On Monday 04 October 2004 23:44, Nick Hastings wrote:
 Hi all,

for reasons I won't bother going into I'm about turn a server
 machine into a workstation (and perhaps occasional game machine).

 There are two nice 1280x1024 17 inch digital LCD displays available
 (Mitsubishi RTD179S) [1], so I thought I'd go out and get myself a
 nice dual head video card. But which to choose? My budget is fairly
 generous.

 My machines motherboard has and AGP slot so I thought an AGP card
 would be best.

 I've had a bit of a look at the ATI web site and it seems that the
 FireGL Z1-128 [2] might suit me well.

I have a matrox G450 that I picked off eBay for $35 and it works quite
well and the price was right. It's a older card though, so for gaming 
I wouldn't really recommend it... although the card works ok, 3D
stuff is a tad on the slow side.  For normal stuff it works great 
though, and 2 monitors are very cool.. which I was running under 
debian unstable with windowmaker.

I'm sure there is something better out there, but I've never had
a problem with Matrox cards under linux.  Hopefully someone
can ring in here about some of the newer cards available.

Dana


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