Re: VmWare on Woody
On Fri, 2002-06-07 at 04:12, Paul Johnson wrote: On Fri, Jun 07, 2002 at 01:58:19AM +0200, Helgi Örn wrote: Is there someone here with an experience running VmWare 3.1.1 in Woody? I just need to know if this is at all possible without any major tweaking. Mostly, yes. Just run the vmware config, and be sure to build those kernel modules. If you use devfs, you'll need to let devfsd know this in it's config files so the vmware devices don't get smacked down on next reboot. - -- Baloo Hi! This is what I get when I start the installation with RPM: --- # rpm -i --test VMware-workstation-3.1.1-1790.i386.rpm error: failed dependencies: /bin/sh is needed by VMwareWorkstation-3.1.1-1790 ld-linux.so.2 is needed by VMwareWorkstation-3.1.1-1790 libICE.so.6 is needed by VMwareWorkstation-3.1.1-1790 libSM.so.6 is needed by VMwareWorkstation-3.1.1-1790 libX11.so.6 is needed by VMwareWorkstation-3.1.1-1790 libXext.so.6 is needed by VMwareWorkstation-3.1.1-1790 libXi.so.6 is needed by VMwareWorkstation-3.1.1-1790 libXmu.so.6 is needed by VMwareWorkstation-3.1.1-1790 libXp.so.6 is needed by VMwareWorkstation-3.1.1-1790 libXpm.so.4 is needed by VMwareWorkstation-3.1.1-1790 libXt.so.6 is needed by VMwareWorkstation-3.1.1-1790 libXtst.so.6 is needed by VMwareWorkstation-3.1.1-1790 libc.so.6 is needed by VMwareWorkstation-3.1.1-1790 libcrypt.so.1 is needed by VMwareWorkstation-3.1.1-1790 libdl.so.2 is needed by VMwareWorkstation-3.1.1-1790 libm.so.6 is needed by VMwareWorkstation-3.1.1-1790 /usr/bin/perl is needed by VMwareWorkstation-3.1.1-1790 --- #whereis gives a responce on some of the stuff at least: sh: /bin/sh /usr/share/man/man1/sh.1.gz ld-linux.so: /lib/ld-linux.so.2 libc.so: /lib/libc.so.6 /usr/lib/libc.so libcrypt.so: /lib/libcrypt.so.1 /usr/lib/libcrypt.so libdl.so: /lib/libdl.so.2 /usr/lib/libdl.so libm.so: /lib/libm.so.6 /usr/lib/libm.so perl: /usr/bin/perl /usr/lib/perl /usr/share/perl /usr/share/man/man1/perl.1.gz So what's the problem? I've never before installad a package with RPM in Debian, are there some weird oddities combined with that? Cheers, Helgi Örn -- ~ This message is digitally signed - GPG key at: ~~ http://www.sacred-eagle.com/gnupg_public_key.html ~~ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: VmWare on Woody
On 12 Jun 2002 13:46:46 +0200 Helgi Örn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is what I get when I start the installation with RPM: (snip) So what's the problem? I've never before installad a package with RPM in Debian, are there some weird oddities combined with that? Why are you trying to use the RPM? Why not use the TAR archive at the link below (taken directly from VMWare's web-site): http://vmware-svca.www.conxion.com/software/VMware-workstation-3.1.1-1790.tar.gz -- Jamin W. Collins -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: VmWare on Woody
On Wed, Jun 12, 2002 at 01:46:46PM +0200, Helgi ?rn wrote: I've never before installad a package with RPM in Debian, are there some weird oddities combined with that? Never do that. Use alien if you can't find a non-RPM version of the package. -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: VmWare on Woody
On Wed, 2002-06-12 at 14:24, Jamin W. Collins wrote: Why are you trying to use the RPM? Why not use the TAR archive at the link below (taken directly from VMWare's web-site): http://vmware-svca.www.conxion.com/software/VMware-workstation-3.1.1-1790.tar.gz Because that's what I had here, and RPM installed itself in Woody so why shouldn't I have assumed that it(RPM) was there to be used? But I'll use the tarball, I like tarballs...:-) Thank's for the help. Cheers, Helgi Örn -- ~ This message is digitally signed - GPG key at: ~~ http://www.sacred-eagle.com/gnupg_public_key.html ~~ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: VmWare on Woody
On Wed, 2002-06-12 at 14:28, Colin Watson wrote: On Wed, Jun 12, 2002 at 01:46:46PM +0200, Helgi ?rn wrote: I've never before installad a package with RPM in Debian, are there some weird oddities combined with that? Never do that. Use alien if you can't find a non-RPM version of the package. Please explain why RPM shouldn't be used when it's there? The Linux (rpm)package is not dist-specific AFAIK and RPM is installed in Woody so why not? I've never before seen or used RPM in Debian so I thought it was interesting to give it a try, of course I used *rpm -i --test package* just to se the outcome without actually installing. Cheers, HÖ -- ~ This message is digitally signed - GPG key at: ~~ http://www.sacred-eagle.com/gnupg_public_key.html ~~ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: VmWare on Woody
On Wed, Jun 12, 2002 at 03:20:53PM +0200, Helgi ?rn Helgason wrote: On Wed, 2002-06-12 at 14:28, Colin Watson wrote: On Wed, Jun 12, 2002 at 01:46:46PM +0200, Helgi ?rn wrote: I've never before installad a package with RPM in Debian, are there some weird oddities combined with that? Never do that. Use alien if you can't find a non-RPM version of the package. Please explain why RPM shouldn't be used when it's there? I believe it's there for extracting files manually from RPMs, building RPMs, and that sort of thing. Using it to install packages on your live system is dangerous because there's no protection against RPM packages stomping all over things that dpkg has installed; if you use alien, you get that protection. -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: VmWare on Woody
On Wed, Jun 12, 2002 at 03:20:53PM +0200, Helgi ?rn Helgason wrote: Please explain why RPM shouldn't be used when it's there? The Linux (rpm)package is not dist-specific AFAIK and RPM is installed in Woody so why not? I've never before seen or used RPM in Debian so I thought it was interesting to give it a try, of course I used *rpm -i --test package* just to se the outcome without actually installing. Rpm is installed in Woody only if you select it. It's available in section admin, priority optional. In the package desciption you will find a strong suggestion to use alien instead: Using rpm directly will bypass the Debian packaging system! Enough said. Bob pgpZezfY0i5aI.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: VmWare on Woody
On Wed, 2002-06-12 at 15:26, Colin Watson wrote: I believe it's there for extracting files manually from RPMs, building RPMs, and that sort of thing. Using it to install packages on your live system is dangerous because there's no protection against RPM packages stomping all over things that dpkg has installed; if you use alien, you get that protection. Thank's that was interesting. With time I will probably learn...:-) Now when I run the tarball installation I can't seem to give the installer the right information when it asks me: *What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running kernel?* Cheers, Helgi Örn -- ~ This message is digitally signed - GPG key at: ~~ http://www.sacred-eagle.com/gnupg_public_key.html ~~ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: VmWare on Woody
On Wed, 2002-06-12 at 15:27, Robert Ian Smit wrote: Rpm is installed in Woody only if you select it. It's available in section admin, priority optional. In the package desciption you will find a strong suggestion to use alien instead: Using rpm directly will bypass the Debian packaging system! Enough said. Thank's. I promise I will keep away from rpm packages from now on, at least as long as I stay with Debian, which I plan to do if I can manage to tame this beast to my liking... :-) Cheers, HÖ -- ~ This message is digitally signed - GPG key at: ~~ http://www.sacred-eagle.com/gnupg_public_key.html ~~ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: VmWare on Woody
On Wed, Jun 12, 2002 at 03:58:05PM +0200, Helgi ?rn Helgason wrote: Now when I run the tarball installation I can't seem to give the installer the right information when it asks me: *What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running kernel?* If you compiled your own kernel, it's the include directory there. Otherwise, you'll probably want to get hold of the appropriate kernel-headers package. -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: VmWare on Woody
On 12 Jun 2002 15:58:05 +0200 Helgi Örn Helgason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now when I run the tarball installation I can't seem to give the installer the right information when it asks me: *What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running kernel?* Do you have the headers and/or source for your kernel version installed? -- Jamin W. Collins -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: VmWare on Woody
On 2002.06.12 09:58 Helgi Örn Helgason wrote: On Wed, 2002-06-12 at 15:26, Colin Watson wrote: I believe it's there for extracting files manually from RPMs, building RPMs, and that sort of thing. Using it to install packages on your live system is dangerous because there's no protection against RPM packages stomping all over things that dpkg has installed; if you use alien, you get that protection. Thank's that was interesting. With time I will probably learn...:-) Now when I run the tarball installation I can't seem to give the installer the right information when it asks me: *What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running kernel?* Look in /usr/src. Assuming you have installed the kernel-header package, there should be a directory called /usr/src/kernel-headers-2.2.19, or something similiar. HTH. Ian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: VmWare on Woody
On Wed, 2002-06-12 at 15:27, Robert Ian Smit wrote: Rpm is installed in Woody only if you select it. It's available in section admin, priority optional. In the package desciption you will find a strong suggestion to use alien instead: Using rpm directly will bypass the Debian packaging system! # apt-get remove rpm Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done The following packages will be REMOVED: kde kpackage rpm The thing want's to remove KDE when I ask it to remove RPM, what kind of service is that? Cheers, Helgi Örn -- ~ This message is digitally signed - GPG key at: ~~ http://www.sacred-eagle.com/gnupg_public_key.html ~~ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: VmWare on Woody
Helgi writes: Please explain why RPM shouldn't be used when it's there? RPM is there so that alien can use it to convert packages. The Linux (rpm)package is not dist-specific... It is specific to RPM-based didtributions. Using both RPM and dpkg on the same system will result in each overwriting some files installed by the other. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, Wisconsin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: VmWare on Woody
On Wed, Jun 12, 2002 at 04:41:32PM +0200, Helgi ?rn Helgason wrote: On Wed, 2002-06-12 at 15:27, Robert Ian Smit wrote: Rpm is installed in Woody only if you select it. It's available in section admin, priority optional. In the package desciption you will find a strong suggestion to use alien instead: Using rpm directly will bypass the Debian packaging system! # apt-get remove rpm Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done The following packages will be REMOVED: kde kpackage rpm The thing want's to remove KDE when I ask it to remove RPM, what kind of service is that? No, it doesn't. 'kde' is just a metapackage; it contains nothing but dependencies on the real bits of KDE. If you want to remove one of those bits (since kpackage depends on rpm), then there's absolutely nothing wrong with removing the kde metapackage. See 'dpkg -p kde'. -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: VmWare on Woody
On Wed, 2002-06-12 at 16:20, Ian D. Stewart wrote: Look in /usr/src. Assuming you have installed the kernel-header package, there should be a directory called /usr/src/kernel-headers-2.2.19, or something similiar. HTH. Ian I installed the kernel-image-2.4.18-686 package with apt-get, no headers. Now I installed the headers and VmWare and everything seems to work OK so far. Sometimes life is quite a feast! Thank's all for the help. Skál víkingar! HÖ -- ~ This message is digitally signed - GPG key at: ~~ http://www.sacred-eagle.com/gnupg_public_key.html ~~ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: VmWare on Woody
Em Qua, 2002-06-12 às 10:20, Helgi Örn Helgason escreveu: On Wed, 2002-06-12 at 14:28, Colin Watson wrote: On Wed, Jun 12, 2002 at 01:46:46PM +0200, Helgi ?rn wrote: I've never before installad a package with RPM in Debian, are there some weird oddities combined with that? Never do that. Use alien if you can't find a non-RPM version of the package. Please explain why RPM shouldn't be used when it's there? The Linux (rpm)package is not dist-specific AFAIK and RPM is installed in Woody so why not? The dependences are not correctly checked. rpm will check against other installed RPMs, dpkg checks against installed DEBs. If you want the dependance checking system to work correctly you must use one installation system only, and it is much better to use dpkg (.DEBs) because 1) it is much better then rpm, 2) it is the default of Debian. Michel. I've never before seen or used RPM in Debian so I thought it was interesting to give it a try, of course I used *rpm -i --test package* just to se the outcome without actually installing. Cheers, HÖ -- ~ This message is digitally signed - GPG key at: ~~ http://www.sacred-eagle.com/gnupg_public_key.html ~~ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: VmWare on Woody
Em Qua, 2002-06-12 às 11:41, Helgi Örn Helgason escreveu: On Wed, 2002-06-12 at 15:27, Robert Ian Smit wrote: Rpm is installed in Woody only if you select it. It's available in section admin, priority optional. In the package desciption you will find a strong suggestion to use alien instead: Using rpm directly will bypass the Debian packaging system! # apt-get remove rpm Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done The following packages will be REMOVED: kde kpackage rpm The thing want's to remove KDE when I ask it to remove RPM, what kind of service is that? You are not removing kde, you are removing the kde meta-package, because kpackage depends on rpm Michel. Cheers, Helgi Örn -- ~ This message is digitally signed - GPG key at: ~~ http://www.sacred-eagle.com/gnupg_public_key.html ~~ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: VmWare on Woody
Em Qua, 2002-06-12 às 11:04, Helgi Örn Helgason escreveu: On Wed, 2002-06-12 at 15:27, Robert Ian Smit wrote: Rpm is installed in Woody only if you select it. It's available in section admin, priority optional. In the package desciption you will find a strong suggestion to use alien instead: Using rpm directly will bypass the Debian packaging system! Enough said. Thank's. I promise I will keep away from rpm packages from now on, at least as long as I stay with Debian, which I plan to do if I can manage to tame this beast to my liking... :-) No need for that, just use alien to transform your .rpm in .deb then use dpkg to install the resulting .deb Michel. Cheers, HÖ -- ~ This message is digitally signed - GPG key at: ~~ http://www.sacred-eagle.com/gnupg_public_key.html ~~ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: VmWare on Woody
On Fri, 2002-06-07 at 04:12, Paul Johnson wrote: Mostly, yes. Just run the vmware config, and be sure to build those kernel modules. If you use devfs, you'll need to let devfsd know this in it's config files so the vmware devices don't get smacked down on next reboot. Hi, Could you send me these required changes... :) I currently have to re-run vmware-config every time I reboot... which is quite a lot on my laptop. -- Mark Janssen -- maniac(at)maniac.nl -- GnuPG Key Id: 357D2178 Unix / Linux, Open-Source and Internet Consultant @ SyConOS IT Maniac.nl Unix-God.Net|Org MarkJanssen.org|nl SyConOS.com|nl -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: VmWare on Woody
On Fri, Jun 07, 2002 at 08:51:19AM +0200, Mark Janssen wrote: Could you send me these required changes... :) Your /etc/devfs/devices file should look something like the attached. -- Baloo # devices file # format: name [bc] major minor uid gid mode # or: directory-name d uid gid mode # # here's a sample for the cpuid and msr # #cpu/0 d rootroot0755 #cpu/0/cpuid c 203 0 rootroot0660 #cpu/0/msr c 202 0 rootroot0660 vmnet0 c 119 0 rootroot0600 pgpOYW95gN7WQ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: VmWare on Woody
On Thu, 2002-06-06 at 23:54, Paul Johnson wrote: On Fri, Jun 07, 2002 at 08:51:19AM +0200, Mark Janssen wrote: Could you send me these required changes... :) Your /etc/devfs/devices file should look something like the attached. After running wmware-config, do a ls -l /dev/vm* and make sure you add all of the vmware devices that you see into the devices file. My vmware installation also uses a vmmon file and a vmnet8 file. -- Dave Carrigan Seattle, WA, USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.rudedog.org/ | ICQ:161669680 UNIX-Apache-Perl-Linux-Firewalls-LDAP-C-C++-DNS-PalmOS-PostgreSQL-MySQL -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: VmWare on Woody
Yes I am and it runs great right out of the box with the 2.4.18 kernel. Helgi Örn wrote: Hello all! Is there someone here with an experience running VmWare 3.1.1 in Woody? I just need to know if this is at all possible without any major tweeking. Cheers, Helgi Örn -- http://www.sacred-eagle.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: VmWare on Woody
Thank's. Great! now I can iron over a RedHat with a Woody... :-) Cheers, Helgi Örn On Fri, 2002-06-07 at 02:00, Quenten Griffith wrote: Yes I am and it runs great right out of the box with the 2.4.18 kernel. Is there someone here with an experience running VmWare 3.1.1 in Woody? I just need to know if this is at all possible without any major tweeking. -- http://www.sacred-eagle.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: VmWare on Woody
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Jun 07, 2002 at 01:58:19AM +0200, Helgi ?rn wrote: Is there someone here with an experience running VmWare 3.1.1 in Woody? I just need to know if this is at all possible without any major tweeking. Mostly, yes. Just run the vmware config, and be sure to build those kernel modules. If you use devfs, you'll need to let devfsd know this in it's config files so the vmware devices don't get smacked down on next reboot. - -- Baloo -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE9ABaiNtWkM9Ny9xURAlMVAKCtzsRIYHYUvRYJJT6LXIk0MSFT9ACgnr/U /VBQW5ksXwR3pUL77arumOk= =IaDC -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]