Re: What happened to consolechars?
On Lu, 03 ian 11, 01:13:39, Phil Requirements wrote: On 2011-01-02 14:23:55 -0500, Thomas H. George wrote: Some characters are not displayed correctly on my monitor. The command consolechars -d used to correct this problem but now it is unknown. Specifically the problem is typically with the arrows which mutt uses to indicate the subject threads. Instead of lines and arrows the display uses the letter a with a circumflex, the 3/4 character, the copywrite symbol and another special symbol. In text occasionally odd symbols appear in the middle of words and in place of numbers or bullets in lists of items. I don't know the answer to where consolechars is hiding, but I wanted to give you something else to think about. The problem you are describing, where special characters, like line-drawing characters and bullets, have been replaced with weird characters, is the classic symptom of an application not supporting UTF-8. In this case, I think it is your terminal emulator which is not supporting UTF-8. What terminal emulator are you using? Try running mutt in xterm and see if the arrows improve. Except for the GUI type ones (lxterm, terminal, gnome-terminal, konsole, ...) AFAIK only xterm, rxvt-unicode and mlterm have decent UTF-8 support. Also, make sure the used font is correct. I would recommend Terminus (package xfont-terminus). Regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: What happened to consolechars?
On Mon, Jan 03, 2011 at 01:13:39AM +, Phil Requirements wrote: On 2011-01-02 14:23:55 -0500, Thomas H. George wrote: Some characters are not displayed correctly on my monitor. The command consolechars -d used to correct this problem but now it is unknown. Now the command is gone and apt-cache search consolechars returns nothing. I don't know about consolechars. That's probably because Debian switched back from console-tools to kbd. console-tools was unmaintained and kbd supported more stuff. You want to use setfont, or just edit /etc/default/console-setup and restart console-setup. Note that setfont /is/ consolechars, but supports larger fonts. I'm using a 16×32 font with the following settings: CHARMAP=UTF-8 CODESET=Uni2 FONTFACE=TerminusBold FONTSIZE=32x16 i.e. /etc/default/console-setup is where setfont gets the font information from; you don't need to run it by hand yourself. This is actually a nice improvement over the previous methods. Regards, Roger -- .''`. Roger Leigh : :' : Debian GNU/Linux http://people.debian.org/~rleigh/ `. `' Printing on GNU/Linux? http://gutenprint.sourceforge.net/ `-GPG Public Key: 0x25BFB848 Please GPG sign your mail. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: What happened to consolechars?
On Mon, Jan 03, 2011 at 06:01:58AM EST, Roger Leigh wrote: On Mon, Jan 03, 2011 at 01:13:39AM +, Phil Requirements wrote: On 2011-01-02 14:23:55 -0500, Thomas H. George wrote: Some characters are not displayed correctly on my monitor. The command consolechars -d used to correct this problem but now it is unknown. Now the command is gone and apt-cache search consolechars returns nothing. I don't know about consolechars. That's probably because Debian switched back from console-tools to kbd. console-tools was unmaintained and kbd supported more stuff. You want to use setfont, or just edit /etc/default/console-setup and restart console-setup. Note that setfont /is/ consolechars, but supports larger fonts. I'm using a 16×32 font with the following settings: CHARMAP=UTF-8 CODESET=Uni2 FONTFACE=TerminusBold FONTSIZE=32x16 i.e. /etc/default/console-setup is where setfont gets the font information from; you don't need to run it by hand yourself. This is actually a nice improvement over the previous methods. Also, take a look at ‘unicode_start’. cj -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110103134821.gb4...@pavo.local
Re: What happened to consolechars?
On Mon, Jan 03, 2011 at 11:01:58AM +, Roger Leigh wrote: On Mon, Jan 03, 2011 at 01:13:39AM +, Phil Requirements wrote: On 2011-01-02 14:23:55 -0500, Thomas H. George wrote: Some characters are not displayed correctly on my monitor. The command consolechars -d used to correct this problem but now it is unknown. Now the command is gone and apt-cache search consolechars returns nothing. I don't know about consolechars. That's probably because Debian switched back from console-tools to kbd. console-tools was unmaintained and kbd supported more stuff. You want to use setfont, or just edit /etc/default/console-setup and restart console-setup. Note that setfont /is/ consolechars, but supports larger fonts. I'm using a 16×32 font with the following settings: Problem solved BUT after I changed CHARMAP=ISO-8859-15 to CHARMAP=UTF-8 and CODESET=Lat2 to CODESET=Uni2 I left the following two entries unchanged as they were as shown FONTFACE=TerminusBold FONTSIZE=32x16 Then I ran setfont and the displayed fonts shrank to almost invisible size but the lines and arrows indicating threads in mutt were correct. In the past I struggled with miniscule font sizes and learned how to correct this by setting the display size in grub. A reboot recovered my preferred font sizes while preserving the new correct lines and arrows indicating threads in mutt. xterm was not installed so I installed it. When I ran xterm it aborted saying DISPLAY was not set. Since everything works correctly now I leave it as is. i.e. /etc/default/console-setup is where setfont gets the font information from; you don't need to run it by hand yourself. This is actually a nice improvement over the previous methods. Regards, Roger -- .''`. Roger Leigh : :' : Debian GNU/Linux http://people.debian.org/~rleigh/ `. `' Printing on GNU/Linux? http://gutenprint.sourceforge.net/ `-GPG Public Key: 0x25BFB848 Please GPG sign your mail. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110103151813.ga2...@tomgeorge.info
Re: What happened to consolechars?
On Mon, Jan 03, 2011 at 08:48:21AM -0500, Chris Jones wrote: On Mon, Jan 03, 2011 at 06:01:58AM EST, Roger Leigh wrote: On Mon, Jan 03, 2011 at 01:13:39AM +, Phil Requirements wrote: On 2011-01-02 14:23:55 -0500, Thomas H. George wrote: Some characters are not displayed correctly on my monitor. The command consolechars -d used to correct this problem but now it is unknown. Now the command is gone and apt-cache search consolechars returns nothing. I don't know about consolechars. That's probably because Debian switched back from console-tools to kbd. console-tools was unmaintained and kbd supported more stuff. You want to use setfont, or just edit /etc/default/console-setup and restart console-setup. Note that setfont /is/ consolechars, but supports larger fonts. I'm using a 16×32 font with the following settings: CHARMAP=UTF-8 CODESET=Uni2 FONTFACE=TerminusBold FONTSIZE=32x16 i.e. /etc/default/console-setup is where setfont gets the font information from; you don't need to run it by hand yourself. This is actually a nice improvement over the previous methods. Also, take a look at ‘unicode_start’. Note that if the locale set in /etc/default/locale (or /etc/environment on older systems) has a UTF-8 charmap (as reported by locale charmap), then the console will be put into unicode mode by default automatically by the init scripts, which run unicode_start for you. [/etc/init.d/keymap.sh, /etc/init.d/kbd] Regards, Roger -- .''`. Roger Leigh : :' : Debian GNU/Linux http://people.debian.org/~rleigh/ `. `' Printing on GNU/Linux? http://gutenprint.sourceforge.net/ `-GPG Public Key: 0x25BFB848 Please GPG sign your mail. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: What happened to consolechars?
On Mon, Jan 03, 2011 at 02:42:19PM EST, Roger Leigh wrote: On Mon, Jan 03, 2011 at 08:48:21AM -0500, Chris Jones wrote: [..] Also, take a look at ‘unicode_start’. Note that if the locale set in /etc/default/locale (or /etc/environment on older systems) has a UTF-8 charmap (as reported by locale charmap), then the console will be put into unicode mode by default automatically by the init scripts, which run unicode_start for you. God's in his heaven, and all's well with the world. cj -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/2011010321.ga4...@pavo.local
Re: What happened to consolechars?
On 2011-01-02 14:23:55 -0500, Thomas H. George wrote: Some characters are not displayed correctly on my monitor. The command consolechars -d used to correct this problem but now it is unknown. Specifically the problem is typically with the arrows which mutt uses to indicate the subject threads. Instead of lines and arrows the display uses the letter a with a circumflex, the 3/4 character, the copywrite symbol and another special symbol. In text occasionally odd symbols appear in the middle of words and in place of numbers or bullets in lists of items. I don't know the answer to where consolechars is hiding, but I wanted to give you something else to think about. The problem you are describing, where special characters, like line-drawing characters and bullets, have been replaced with weird characters, is the classic symptom of an application not supporting UTF-8. In this case, I think it is your terminal emulator which is not supporting UTF-8. What terminal emulator are you using? Try running mutt in xterm and see if the arrows improve. Normally I just ignore all this as I know what is meant but occasionally it results in some ambiguity. In the past when this was a problem I used the command consolechars -d where the -d was to restore a default character set. Since lang=en.US,UTF-8 has always been specified in locale I have no idea what this default character set was, I only knew it fixed the problem. Now the command is gone and apt-cache search consolechars returns nothing. I don't know about consolechars. Hope that helps, Phil -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110103011339.ga4...@kasploosh.net
