Re: hp-plugin fails
On Thu, 1 Aug 2019, Brian wrote: Printing is comprehensively covered on the wiki. A starting point is https://wiki.debian.org/QuickPrintQueuesCUPS Scanning is trickier because user-facing software needs developing. Have look at https://wiki.debian.org/SaneOverNetwork#airprint thank you Brian for these 2 interesting links best regards, -- Pierre Frenkiel
Re: hp-plugin fails
On Sat, 3 Aug 2019, mick crane wrote: On 2019-08-01 20:35, Curt wrote: On 2019-08-01, Pierre Frenkiel wrote: I suspect it it is a timing problem, and works for a not too big number of hops. How many hops for you, with traceroute? for me, traceroute stops at the ninth step ( 198.32.176.33), before reaching the target. I can't reach https://www.openprinting.org from here either. for me that link goes to https://wiki.linuxfoundation.org/openprinting/start today, both links work. The obvious conclusion is that Einstein was wrong: God actually plays dice best regards, -- Pierre Frenkiel
Re: hp-plugin fails
On 2019-08-01 20:35, Curt wrote: On 2019-08-01, Pierre Frenkiel wrote: I suspect it it is a timing problem, and works for a not too big number of hops. How many hops for you, with traceroute? for me, traceroute stops at the ninth step ( 198.32.176.33), before reaching the target. I can't reach https://www.openprinting.org from here either. for me that link goes to https://wiki.linuxfoundation.org/openprinting/start -- Key ID4BFEBB31
Re: hp-plugin fails
On Fri, 2 Aug 2019, Pierre Frenkiel wrote: On Fri, 2 Aug 2019, Brian wrote: So - you had the plugin installed already! yes, but as I already said, on my desktop, it gives: error: Unable to open /data/home/frenkiel/.hplip/hp-plugin.lock lock file. and on my laptop, it opens a window saying: the driver plugin for HPLIP 3.16.11 appears to already be installed. do you want to download and reinstall the plug-in? which is more user friendly. now, hp-plugin works (god knows why), and it installs the bb_ files in /usr/share/hplip/scan/plugins, but if I call it again, it still proposes to install, instead of saying the driver plugin for HPLIP 3.16.11 appears to already be installed. as on my laptop an other computing mystery... best regards, -- Pierre Frenkiel
Re: hp-plugin fails
On Fri 02 Aug 2019 at 15:20:41 +0200, Pierre Frenkiel wrote: > On Fri, 2 Aug 2019, Brian wrote: > > > So - you had the plugin installed already! > > yes, but as I already said, on my desktop, it gives: > > error: Unable to open /data/home/frenkiel/.hplip/hp-plugin.lock lock file. > > and on my laptop, it opens a window saying: > >the driver plugin for HPLIP 3.16.11 appears to already be installed. >do you want to download and reinstall the plug-in? > > which is more user friendly. You are assuming the first message (buster) is the equivalent of the second message (stretch). I do not think they are connected. On my unstable the lock file is put in $HOME/.hplip. There is also no top level directory "/data". -- Brian.
Re: hp-plugin fails
On Fri, 2 Aug 2019, Brian wrote: So - you had the plugin installed already! yes, but as I already said, on my desktop, it gives: error: Unable to open /data/home/frenkiel/.hplip/hp-plugin.lock lock file. and on my laptop, it opens a window saying: the driver plugin for HPLIP 3.16.11 appears to already be installed. do you want to download and reinstall the plug-in? which is more user friendly. best regards, -- Pierre Frenkiel
Re: hp-plugin fails
On Fri 02 Aug 2019 at 13:42:16 +0200, Pierre Frenkiel wrote: > On Fri, 2 Aug 2019, Brian wrote: > > > A final try: > > > > mkdir /usr/share/hplip/scan/plugins/ > > > > and copy bb_escl*, bb_marvell*, bb_orblite*, bb_soap_ht* and bb_soap to > > it. > > that will not be necessary, as the directory already exists, with > all the files you mention! So - you had the plugin installed already! -- Brian.
Re: hp-plugin fails
On Fri, 2 Aug 2019, Brian wrote: A final try: mkdir /usr/share/hplip/scan/plugins/ and copy bb_escl*, bb_marvell*, bb_orblite*, bb_soap_ht* and bb_soap to it. that will not be necessary, as the directory already exists, with all the files you mention! anyway, thank you for the time you spend to help people best regards, -- Pierre Frenkiel
Re: hp-plugin fails
On Fri 02 Aug 2019 at 13:02:34 +0200, Pierre Frenkiel wrote: > On Fri, 2 Aug 2019, Brian wrote: > > > https://wiki.debian.org/PrintQueuesCUPS#hp > > > > Omit the first and last steps in the instructions. > > I already did that, but I tried it again, with the same result. > > I think it may be interesting to try with a live cd. I'll do that. A final try: mkdir /usr/share/hplip/scan/plugins/ and copy bb_escl*, bb_marvell*, bb_orblite*, bb_soap_ht* and bb_soap to it. -- Brian.
Re: hp-plugin fails
On Fri, 2 Aug 2019, Brian wrote: https://wiki.debian.org/PrintQueuesCUPS#hp Omit the first and last steps in the instructions. I already did that, but I tried it again, with the same result. I think it may be interesting to try with a live cd. I'll do that. best regards, -- Pierre Frenkiel
Re: hp-plugin fails
On Fri 02 Aug 2019 at 12:36:46 +0200, Pierre Frenkiel wrote: > On Fri, 2 Aug 2019, Brian wrote: > > > > I also installed all xxqt4xx packages > > > > Not so good. > >agreed. As that solved nothing, I purged them > > > 'hp-plugin -i -p hplip-3.19.6-plugin.run' is the most straightforward > > command to use to install the plugin. > > > > (hplip-3.19.6 is from the experimental (rc-buggy) archive. Thanks for > > testing it. As far as hplip is concerned your machine is not, as you > > claim, on buster). > > Actually, I am on buster: cat /etc/debian_version ==> 10.0 > I installed the correxponding version of hplip, which is now > 3.18.12+dfsg0-2 > but > hp-plugin -i -p hplip-3.18.12-plugin.run > still gives: > error: Unable to open /data/home/frenkiel/.hplip/hp-plugin.lock lock file. Use the advice at https://wiki.debian.org/PrintQueuesCUPS#hp Omit the first and last steps in the instructions. -- Brian.
Re: hp-plugin fails
On Fri, 2 Aug 2019, Brian wrote: I also installed all xxqt4xx packages Not so good. agreed. As that solved nothing, I purged them 'hp-plugin -i -p hplip-3.19.6-plugin.run' is the most straightforward command to use to install the plugin. (hplip-3.19.6 is from the experimental (rc-buggy) archive. Thanks for testing it. As far as hplip is concerned your machine is not, as you claim, on buster). Actually, I am on buster: cat /etc/debian_version ==> 10.0 I installed the correxponding version of hplip, which is now 3.18.12+dfsg0-2 but hp-plugin -i -p hplip-3.18.12-plugin.run still gives: error: Unable to open /data/home/frenkiel/.hplip/hp-plugin.lock lock file. best regards, -- Pierre Frenkiel
Re: hp-plugin fails
On Fri 02 Aug 2019 at 09:09:11 +0200, Pierre Frenkiel wrote: > On Thu, 1 Aug 2019, Brian wrote: > > > You have been give a second link to download the plugin from. Can you > > connect to that? A reminder: > > > > https://developers.hp.com/hp-linux-imaging-and-printing/plugins > > It's the 1st time I see this link. May-be I missed it before... Maybe. > It works fine, and I could download ./hplip-3.19.6-plugin.run Good. > I also installed all xxqt4xx packages Not so good. > But using this file looks like an April fool: [Snippage. The correct option to use with './hplip-3.19.6-plugin.run' is given at https://wiki.debian.org/PrintQueuesCUPS#hp]. 'hp-plugin -i -p hplip-3.19.6-plugin.run' is the most straightforward command to use to install the plugin. (hplip-3.19.6 is from the experimental (rc-buggy) archive. Thanks for testing it. As far as hplip is concerned your machine is not, as you claim, on buster). -- Brian.
Re: hp-plugin fails
On Fri 02 Aug 2019 at 07:59:56 -, Curt wrote: > On 2019-08-01, Brian wrote: > > On Thu 01 Aug 2019 at 19:35:33 -, Curt wrote: > > > >> On 2019-08-01, Pierre Frenkiel wrote: > >> > >> > I suspect it it is a timing problem, and works for a not too big > >> > number of hops. > >> > How many hops for you, with traceroute? > >> > for me, traceroute stops at the ninth step ( 198.32.176.33), > >> > before reaching the target. > >> > >> I can't reach https://www.openprinting.org from here either. > > > > That's two people who will have to wait for their ISP to get their act > > togther. > > It wasn't an attempt to belittle your thorough and patient advice to a > person whose problems often seem to be *des puits sans fond*, but rather > a confirmation that more than one person can't get there from here. I assure you I did not take it that way. My remark was indicating (not vey well) that ISPs occasionally have routeing problems. > I guess I could've refrained without much signal loss, but then again > people do pipe up and in for this sort of thing, after all, our fellow > human beings deriving solace somehow from the fact that they are not > alone. Indeed. -- Brian.
Re: hp-plugin fails
On 2019-08-01, Brian wrote: > On Thu 01 Aug 2019 at 19:35:33 -, Curt wrote: > >> On 2019-08-01, Pierre Frenkiel wrote: >> >> > I suspect it it is a timing problem, and works for a not too big number >> > of hops. >> > How many hops for you, with traceroute? >> > for me, traceroute stops at the ninth step ( 198.32.176.33), >> > before reaching the target. >> >> I can't reach https://www.openprinting.org from here either. > > That's two people who will have to wait for their ISP to get their act > togther. It wasn't an attempt to belittle your thorough and patient advice to a person whose problems often seem to be *des puits sans fond*, but rather a confirmation that more than one person can't get there from here. I guess I could've refrained without much signal loss, but then again people do pipe up and in for this sort of thing, after all, our fellow human beings deriving solace somehow from the fact that they are not alone. > Meanwhile, Pierre Frenkiel has another link to use. > That brightens my day considerably (though I bet somehow it won't "work" for Pierre)! -- “We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars.” ― Oscar Wilde, Lady Windermere's Fan
Re: hp-plugin fails
On Thu, 1 Aug 2019, Brian wrote: You have been give a second link to download the plugin from. Can you connect to that? A reminder: https://developers.hp.com/hp-linux-imaging-and-printing/plugins It's the 1st time I see this link. May-be I missed it before... It works fine, and I could download ./hplip-3.19.6-plugin.run I also installed all xxqt4xx packages But using this file looks like an April fool: ==> ./hplip-3.19.6-plugin.run Verifying archive integrity... All good. Uncompressing HPLIP 3.19.6 Plugin Self Extracting Archive.. HP Linux Imaging and Printing System (ver. 3.19.6) Plugin Installer ver. 3.0 Copyright (c) 2001-15 HP Development Company, LP This software comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY. This is free software, and you are welcome to distribute it under certain conditions. See COPYING file for more details. Plug-in version: 3.19.6 Installed HPLIP version: 3.19.6 Number of files to install: 64 error: Unable to load Qt4 support. Is it installed? Try running with -i or --qt3 instead. ==> ./hplip-3.19.6-plugin.run -1 Unrecognized flag : -i Makeself version 2.1.5 1) Getting help or info about ./hplip-3.19.6-plugin.run : ./hplip-3.19.6-plugin.run --help Print this message ./hplip-3.19.6-plugin.run --info Print embedded info : title, default target directory, embedded script ... ./hplip-3.19.6-plugin.run --lsmPrint embedded lsm entry (or no LSM) ./hplip-3.19.6-plugin.run --list Print the list of files in the archive ./hplip-3.19.6-plugin.run --check Checks integrity of the archive 2) Running ./hplip-3.19.6-plugin.run : ./hplip-3.19.6-plugin.run [options] [--] [additional arguments to embedded script] with following options (in that order) --confirm Ask before running embedded script --noexec Do not run embedded script --keepDo not erase target directory after running the embedded script --nox11 Do not spawn an xterm --nochown Do not give the extracted files to the current user --target NewDirectory Extract in NewDirectory --tar arg1 [arg2 ...] Access the contents of the archive through the tar command --Following arguments will be passed to the embedded script ==> ./hplip-3.19.6-plugin.run --qt3 Unrecognized flag : --qt3 Makeself version 2.1.5 1) Getting help or info about ./hplip-3.19.6-plugin.run : ./hplip-3.19.6-plugin.run --help Print this message ./hplip-3.19.6-plugin.run --info Print embedded info : title, default target directory, embedded script ... ./hplip-3.19.6-plugin.run --lsmPrint embedded lsm entry (or no LSM) ./hplip-3.19.6-plugin.run --list Print the list of files in the archive ./hplip-3.19.6-plugin.run --check Checks integrity of the archive 2) Running ./hplip-3.19.6-plugin.run : ./hplip-3.19.6-plugin.run [options] [--] [additional arguments to embedded script] with following options (in that order) --confirm Ask before running embedded script --noexec Do not run embedded script --keepDo not erase target directory after running the embedded script --nox11 Do not spawn an xterm --nochown Do not give the extracted files to the current user --target NewDirectory Extract in NewDirectory --tar arg1 [arg2 ...] Access the contents of the archive through the tar command --Following arguments will be passed to the embedded script best regards, -- Pierre Frenkiel
Re: hp-plugin fails
On Thu 01 Aug 2019 at 16:19:16 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Thu, Aug 01, 2019 at 03:38:04PM +0200, Pierre Frenkiel wrote: > > hi, > > > > when I run hp-plugin on my laptop (debian/stretch), it says > >driver plugin for HPLIP 3.16.11 already installed ... > >(the hplip package version is 3.16.11) > > > > if I do that on my desktop (debian/buster), I get: > >error: Unable to open /data/home/frenkiel/.hplip/hp-plugin.lock lock > > file. > >(the hplip package version is 3.18.12) > > Guess... > > > sudo hp-plugin gives: > >warning: It is not recommended to run 'hp-plugin' in a root mode. > > Perhaps you succeeded running hp-plugin once as root and it created the > lock file (/data/home/frenkiel/.hplip/hp-plugin.lock) with root permission? > > What does "ls -l /data/home/frenkiel/.hplip/hp-plugin.lock" say? > (or even better: "ls -al /data/home/frenkiel/.hplip", so we can > see the access metadata of the directory too). Permissions on files and directories are likely not the issue here. A user can (and as recommended above, should) run hp-plugin. After the plugin is downloaded and the licence agreed to the root password is requested. The installation then takes place. On issuing the command 'hp-plugin' hp-plugin.lock should be created in ~/.hplip. The error message above is a complaint that this file cannot be opened because possibly it cannot be found. -- Brian.
Re: hp-plugin fails
On Thu 01 Aug 2019 at 19:35:33 -, Curt wrote: > On 2019-08-01, Pierre Frenkiel wrote: > > > I suspect it it is a timing problem, and works for a not too big number > > of hops. > > How many hops for you, with traceroute? > > for me, traceroute stops at the ninth step ( 198.32.176.33), > > before reaching the target. > > I can't reach https://www.openprinting.org from here either. That's two people who will have to wait for their ISP to get their act togther. Meanwhile, Pierre Frenkiel has another link to use. -- Brian.
Re: hp-plugin fails
On 2019-08-01, Pierre Frenkiel wrote: > I suspect it it is a timing problem, and works for a not too big number of > hops. > How many hops for you, with traceroute? > for me, traceroute stops at the ninth step ( 198.32.176.33), > before reaching the target. I can't reach https://www.openprinting.org from here either. > best regards, -- “We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars.” ― Oscar Wilde, Lady Windermere's Fan
Re: hp-plugin fails
On Thu 01 Aug 2019 at 19:56:27 +0200, Pierre Frenkiel wrote: > On Thu, 1 Aug 2019, Brad Rogers wrote: > > > I hate to say it, but it's likely your end. I can connect without > > problems. > > I also hate to say that, but I can't connect! > Up to now, I never had any network problem, and I don't have a firewall. > explain that who can. > I suspect it it is a timing problem, and works for a not too big number of > hops. > How many hops for you, with traceroute? > for me, traceroute stops at the ninth step ( 198.32.176.33), > before reaching the target. You have been give a second link to download the plugin from. Can you connect to that? A reminder: https://developers.hp.com/hp-linux-imaging-and-printing/plugins -- Brian.
Re: hp-plugin fails
On Thu, 1 Aug 2019 19:56:27 +0200 (CEST) Pierre Frenkiel wrote: Hello Pierre, > How many hops for you, with traceroute? 10 > for me, traceroute stops at the ninth step ( 198.32.176.33), Perhaps unsurprisingly, that IP address doesn't appear in my hop list. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)radnever immediately apparent" You suck my blood like a leech Death On Two Legs - Queen pgpLe3_t_swlq.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: hp-plugin fails
On Thu, Aug 01, 2019 at 08:02:24PM +0200, Pierre Frenkiel wrote: > On Thu, 1 Aug 2019, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote: > > >On qui, 01 ago 2019, Pierre Frenkiel wrote: > >>On Thu, 1 Aug 2019, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > >>>Perhaps you succeeded running hp-plugin once as root and it > >>>created the lock file > >>>(/data/home/frenkiel/.hplip/hp-plugin.lock) with root > >>>permission > >> > >> hi Tomas, > >> thank you for your suggestion, but it's of course the first > >>thing I checked > >> and found no lock file > >> Anyway, I dont see how running anything as root, in the root tree, > >> could create a file in mmy home tree. > > > >And what are the permissions in the directory, as Tomas asked? (ls > >-al /data/home/frenkiel/.hplip) > > > > drwxr- 3 frenkiel frenkiel 4096 Aug 1 15:00 . > drwx-- 311 frenkiel frenkiel 20480 Aug 1 20:00 .. > drwxr-xr-x 3 frenkiel frenkiel 4096 Feb 24 18:01 .gnupg > -rw-r- 1 frenkiel frenkiel 4978 Jul 3 12:49 hp-doctor.log > -rw-r- 1 frenkiel frenkiel 541 Aug 1 09:37 hplip.conf > -rw-r- 1 frenkiel frenkiel 216 Jul 3 13:03 hplip_queues.log > -rw-r- 1 frenkiel frenkiel 0 Jul 4 17:31 hp-upgrade.log I see. You might want to run the program under strace, to see whether it's telling the truth (strace -o ). You might see, near the end of your trace file, what the program is trying to do and what fails... Cheers -- t signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: hp-plugin fails
On Thu, 1 Aug 2019, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote: On qui, 01 ago 2019, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote: And what are the permissions in the directory, as Tomas asked? (ls -al /data/home/frenkiel/.hplip) Even better, "ls -ald /data/home/frenkiel/.hplip" no, not better: you have already the information with "ls -al /data/home/frenkiel/.hplip" looking at the . directory best regards, -- Pierre Frenkiel
Re: hp-plugin fails
On Thu, 1 Aug 2019, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote: On qui, 01 ago 2019, Pierre Frenkiel wrote: On Thu, 1 Aug 2019, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: Perhaps you succeeded running hp-plugin once as root and it created the lock file (/data/home/frenkiel/.hplip/hp-plugin.lock) with root permission hi Tomas, thank you for your suggestion, but it's of course the first thing I checked and found no lock file Anyway, I dont see how running anything as root, in the root tree, could create a file in mmy home tree. And what are the permissions in the directory, as Tomas asked? (ls -al /data/home/frenkiel/.hplip) drwxr- 3 frenkiel frenkiel 4096 Aug 1 15:00 . drwx-- 311 frenkiel frenkiel 20480 Aug 1 20:00 .. drwxr-xr-x 3 frenkiel frenkiel 4096 Feb 24 18:01 .gnupg -rw-r- 1 frenkiel frenkiel 4978 Jul 3 12:49 hp-doctor.log -rw-r- 1 frenkiel frenkiel 541 Aug 1 09:37 hplip.conf -rw-r- 1 frenkiel frenkiel 216 Jul 3 13:03 hplip_queues.log -rw-r- 1 frenkiel frenkiel 0 Jul 4 17:31 hp-upgrade.log best regards, -- Pierre Frenkiel
Re: hp-plugin fails
On Thu, 1 Aug 2019, Brad Rogers wrote: I hate to say it, but it's likely your end. I can connect without problems. I also hate to say that, but I can't connect! Up to now, I never had any network problem, and I don't have a firewall. explain that who can. I suspect it it is a timing problem, and works for a not too big number of hops. How many hops for you, with traceroute? for me, traceroute stops at the ninth step ( 198.32.176.33), before reaching the target. best regards, -- Pierre Frenkiel
Re: hp-plugin fails
On Thu, Aug 01, 2019 at 04:37:25PM +0200, Pierre Frenkiel wrote: > On Thu, 1 Aug 2019, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > >Perhaps you succeeded running hp-plugin once as root and it > >created the lock file (/data/home/frenkiel/.hplip/hp-plugin.lock) > >with root permission > >hi Tomas, >thank you for your suggestion, but it's of course the first thing I checked >and found no lock file And the directory (.hplip) above it is readable/writable for you? >Anyway, I dont see how running anything as root, in the root tree, >could create a file in mmy home tree. Why not? Depending on how you "become" root, - the $HOME environment variable could be still point at "your" home - you acquired root's effective, not its real user id -- and the process in question looks for the current real user's home (not the default in sudo, but afaik that's what might happen, e.g. with setuid programs). Something like that. Cheers -- tomás signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: hp-plugin fails
On Thu 01 Aug 2019 at 17:57:35 +0200, Pierre Frenkiel wrote: > On Thu, 1 Aug 2019, Brian wrote: > > > Recent HP MFDs all provide an AirPrint facility. The printing aspect > > is fully supported on buster without anything non-free. I hope this is > > welcome news. > > > > It is also probable the devices have an AirScan service. No plugin is > > needed to use that. > > > > Bottom line: printing and scanning are fully supported by free software. > > would you be kind enough to list the non-free and free softwares Printing is comprehensively covered on the wiki. A starting point is https://wiki.debian.org/QuickPrintQueuesCUPS Scanning is trickier because user-facing software needs developing. Have look at https://wiki.debian.org/SaneOverNetwork#airprint -- Brian.
Re: hp-plugin fails
On qui, 01 ago 2019, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote: And what are the permissions in the directory, as Tomas asked? (ls -al /data/home/frenkiel/.hplip) Even better, "ls -ald /data/home/frenkiel/.hplip" -- Eduardo M KALINOWSKI edua...@kalinowski.com.br
Re: hp-plugin fails
On Thu, 1 Aug 2019 17:50:03 +0200 (CEST) Pierre Frenkiel wrote: Hello Pierre, >> https://www.openprinting.org/download/printdriver/auxfiles/HP/plugins/ >after waiting several minutes, I get: > this site can't be reached ... timed out I hate to say it, but it's likely your end. I can connect without problems. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)radnever immediately apparent" I ain't got no time for intellectual music, e.g. Hergest Ridge Heads Down No Nonsense Mindless Boogie - Alberto y Lost Trios Paranoias pgpdWoYe7c8hs.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: hp-plugin fails
On qui, 01 ago 2019, Pierre Frenkiel wrote: On Thu, 1 Aug 2019, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: Perhaps you succeeded running hp-plugin once as root and it created the lock file (/data/home/frenkiel/.hplip/hp-plugin.lock) with root permission hi Tomas, thank you for your suggestion, but it's of course the first thing I checked and found no lock file Anyway, I dont see how running anything as root, in the root tree, could create a file in mmy home tree. And what are the permissions in the directory, as Tomas asked? (ls -al /data/home/frenkiel/.hplip) -- Eduardo M KALINOWSKI edua...@kalinowski.com.br
Re: hp-plugin fails
On Thu, 1 Aug 2019, Brian wrote: Recent HP MFDs all provide an AirPrint facility. The printing aspect is fully supported on buster without anything non-free. I hope this is welcome news. It is also probable the devices have an AirScan service. No plugin is needed to use that. Bottom line: printing and scanning are fully supported by free software. would you be kind enough to list the non-free and free softwares best regards, -- Pierre Frenkiel
Re: hp-plugin fails
On Thu 01 Aug 2019 at 17:50:03 +0200, Pierre Frenkiel wrote: > On Thu, 1 Aug 2019, Brian wrote: > > > The plugin can be downloaded from > > > > https://www.openprinting.org/download/printdriver/auxfiles/HP/plugins/ > >after waiting several minutes, I get: > > this site can't be reached ... timed out No problem here. Try https://developers.hp.com/hp-linux-imaging-and-printing/plugins > > and installed with the -p option of hp-plugin. > > and this gives, as usual: > >error: Unable to open /home/frenkiel/.hplip/hp-plugin.lock lock file. There is no point in using 'hp-plugin -i -p .' if the plugin has not been downloaded. -- Brian.
Re: hp-plugin fails
On Thu 01 Aug 2019 at 16:30:52 +0200, Michael Kesper wrote: > Hi all, > > On 01.08.19 15:38, Pierre Frenkiel wrote: > > hi, > > > > when I run hp-plugin on my laptop (debian/stretch), it says > > driver plugin for HPLIP 3.16.11 already installed ... > > (the hplip package version is 3.16.11) > > > > if I do that on my desktop (debian/buster), I get: > > error: Unable to open /data/home/frenkiel/.hplip/hp-plugin.lock lock > > file. > > (the hplip package version is 3.18.12) > > > > sudo hp-plugin gives: > > warning: It is not recommended to run 'hp-plugin' in a root mode. > > > > Can anybody suggest a fix? > > Return that printer and use one that is fully supported by free software. > Honestly, this is very annoying of HP: > Cheap ink printer-scanners are totally usable without this, > laser printer-scanners can only be used to print without this non-free > garbage. :( Recent HP MFDs all provide an AirPrint facility. The printing aspect is fully supported on buster without anything non-free. I hope this is welcome news. It is also probable the devices have an AirScan service. No plugin is needed to use that. Bottom line: printing and scanning are fully supported by free software. -- Brian.
Re: hp-plugin fails
On Thu, 1 Aug 2019, Brian wrote: The plugin can be downloaded from https://www.openprinting.org/download/printdriver/auxfiles/HP/plugins/ after waiting several minutes, I get: this site can't be reached ... timed out and installed with the -p option of hp-plugin. and this gives, as usual: error: Unable to open /home/frenkiel/.hplip/hp-plugin.lock lock file. best regards, -- Pierre Frenkiel
Re: hp-plugin fails
On Thu 01 Aug 2019 at 15:38:04 +0200, Pierre Frenkiel wrote: > hi, > > when I run hp-plugin on my laptop (debian/stretch), it says >driver plugin for HPLIP 3.16.11 already installed ... >(the hplip package version is 3.16.11) > > if I do that on my desktop (debian/buster), I get: >error: Unable to open /data/home/frenkiel/.hplip/hp-plugin.lock lock file. >(the hplip package version is 3.18.12) > > sudo hp-plugin gives: >warning: It is not recommended to run 'hp-plugin' in a root mode. > > > googling didn't give me any useful information... > > I tried also: >hp-diagnose_plugin > which gives: failed to install plugin > >sudo hp-diagnose_plugin ==> > warning: It is not recommended to run 'hp-plugin' in a root mode. > Checking for network connection... > Downloading plug-in from: > Downloading plug-in: [\ >but the download runs forever, with 0% downloaded > > Can anybody suggest a fix? The plugin can be downloaded from https://www.openprinting.org/download/printdriver/auxfiles/HP/plugins/ and installed with the -p option of hp-plugin. -- Brian.
Re: hp-plugin fails
On Thu, 1 Aug 2019, Michael Kesper wrote: Hi Pierre, I did by no means want to offend you. The fact stays, though: You can scan from these other PCs because they are supported by this non-free binary. As soon as that stops working, the scanning will not be supported anymore. Someone should reverse engineer it. Bye Michael hi Michael, I found no offense! I'll use the program as long as it works (cross fingers). So, as say the english "wait and see" best regards, -- Pierre Frenkiel
Re: hp-plugin fails
Hi Pierre, I did by no means want to offend you. The fact stays, though: You can scan from these other PCs because they are supported by this non-free binary. As soon as that stops working, the scanning will not be supported anymore. Someone should reverse engineer it. Bye Michael
Re: hp-plugin fails
On Thu, 1 Aug 2019, Michael Kesper wrote: Return that printer and use one that is fully supported by free software. Honestly, this is very annoying of HP: Cheap ink printer-scanners are totally usable without this, laser printer-scanners can only be used to print without this non-free garbage. :( I don't understand your answer: obviously, the problem is not with the printer, as everything works perfectly from 2 laptops, and printing also works perfectly from my desktop. The only failure is for scanning, but that's not a problem, as I can scan on the laserjet from the laptops, or scan on my envy from my desktop. As the question was merely to satisfy my curiosity, I'll stop to bother people (and me also!), with that. best regards, -- Pierre Frenkiel
Re: hp-plugin fails
On Thu, 1 Aug 2019, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: Perhaps you succeeded running hp-plugin once as root and it created the lock file (/data/home/frenkiel/.hplip/hp-plugin.lock) with root permission hi Tomas, thank you for your suggestion, but it's of course the first thing I checked and found no lock file Anyway, I dont see how running anything as root, in the root tree, could create a file in mmy home tree. best regards, -- Pierre Frenkiel
Re: hp-plugin fails
Hi all, On 01.08.19 15:38, Pierre Frenkiel wrote: > hi, > > when I run hp-plugin on my laptop (debian/stretch), it says > driver plugin for HPLIP 3.16.11 already installed ... > (the hplip package version is 3.16.11) > > if I do that on my desktop (debian/buster), I get: > error: Unable to open /data/home/frenkiel/.hplip/hp-plugin.lock lock file. > (the hplip package version is 3.18.12) > > sudo hp-plugin gives: > warning: It is not recommended to run 'hp-plugin' in a root mode. > > Can anybody suggest a fix? Return that printer and use one that is fully supported by free software. Honestly, this is very annoying of HP: Cheap ink printer-scanners are totally usable without this, laser printer-scanners can only be used to print without this non-free garbage. :( End of rant Michael signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: hp-plugin fails
On Thu, Aug 01, 2019 at 03:38:04PM +0200, Pierre Frenkiel wrote: > hi, > > when I run hp-plugin on my laptop (debian/stretch), it says >driver plugin for HPLIP 3.16.11 already installed ... >(the hplip package version is 3.16.11) > > if I do that on my desktop (debian/buster), I get: >error: Unable to open /data/home/frenkiel/.hplip/hp-plugin.lock lock file. >(the hplip package version is 3.18.12) Guess... > sudo hp-plugin gives: >warning: It is not recommended to run 'hp-plugin' in a root mode. Perhaps you succeeded running hp-plugin once as root and it created the lock file (/data/home/frenkiel/.hplip/hp-plugin.lock) with root permission? What does "ls -l /data/home/frenkiel/.hplip/hp-plugin.lock" say? (or even better: "ls -al /data/home/frenkiel/.hplip", so we can see the access metadata of the directory too). Cheers -- t signature.asc Description: Digital signature
