Re: where to find wifi card info in linux-doc
On Mon 29 Nov 2021 at 01:50:24 (-0500), lou wrote: > > Thank David, you have better memory than i > > my memory is poor because of insomnia Extracted from the Guix Reference Manual: § 3.2 Hardware Considerations GNU Guix focuses on respecting the user’s computing freedom. It builds around the kernel Linux-libre, which means that only hardware for which free software drivers and firmware exist is supported. Nowadays, a wide range of off-the-shelf hardware is supported on GNU/Linux-libre—from keyboards to graphics cards to scanners and Ethernet controllers. Unfortunately, there are still areas where hardware vendors deny users control over their own computing, and such hardware is not supported on Guix System. One of the main areas where free drivers or firmware are lacking is WiFi devices. WiFi devices known to work include those using Atheros chips (AR9271 and AR7010), which corresponds to the ath9k Linux-libre driver, and those using Broadcom/AirForce chips (BCM43xx with Wireless-Core Revision 5), which corresponds to the b43-open Linux-libre driver. Free firmware exists for both and is available out-of-the-box on Guix System, as part of %base-firmware (see Section 10.2 [operating-system Reference], page 193). The Free Software Foundation (https://www.fsf.org/) runs Respects Your Freedom (https://www.fsf.org/ryf) (RYF), a certification program for hardware products that respect your freedom and your privacy and ensure that you have control over your device. We encourage you to check the list of RYF-certified devices. Another useful resource is the H-Node (https://www.h-node.org/) web site. It contains a catalog of hardware devices with information about their support in GNU/Linux. Cheers, David.
Re: where to find wifi card info in linux-doc
Thank David, you have better memory than i my memory is poor because of insomnia
Re: where to find wifi card info in linux-doc
On Fri 26 Nov 2021 at 17:03:37 (+0100), Christian Britz wrote: > Stefan Monnier wrote: > > > AFAICT most of the files in `linux-doc/Documentation` are compressed, > > so you'd need to use `zgrep`. > > This actually works recursively with the zgrep command from the zutils > package, thank you! > > The installation of it throws interesting warnings on testing... > > [...] > dpkg-divert: warning: diverting file '/bin/zgrep' from an Essential > package with rename is dangerous, use --no-rename > dpkg-divert: warning: diverting file '/usr/share/man/man1/zgrep.1.gz' > from an Essential package with rename is dangerous, use --no-rename > [...] You see this merely because a file like /bin/zgrep is essential, but it's going to be renamed to /bin/zgrep.gzip so that the zutils version can replace it. Without the diversion, zutils would violate the rule that the same file can't be installed from more than one package. It's exceptional enough for you to be warned that it's happening, but particularly because the default behaviour will be changing at some point. Anyway, it's expected behaviour. Cheers, David.
Re: where to find wifi card info in linux-doc
On Sun 28 Nov 2021 at 21:43:04 (-0500), lou wrote: > Thank David! > > i want info about wifi adapters supported by kernel without using > non-free firmware. > > i haven't been able to find such info in linux-doc > > yes, search for such info isn't easy, i give up > > many web pages have stories of linux users' success with wifi adapter > but they might use non-free firmware On Debian, perhaps start at https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi You might also look at the Guix website as I don't think they support non-free firmware at all. > BTW both opensuse and fedora include non-free firmware in their > official images > > they r so serious about open source that they don't include mp3 player > (you have to use 3rd party repositories) > > i think debian shall re-consider its policy on non-free firmware You brought this up in October. Please reread the thread. Cheers, David.
Re: where to find wifi card info in linux-doc
Thank David! i want info about wifi adapters supported by kernel without using non-free firmware. i haven't been able to find such info in linux-doc yes, search for such info isn't easy, i give up many web pages have stories of linux users' success with wifi adapter but they might use non-free firmware BTW both opensuse and fedora include non-free firmware in their official images they r so serious about open source that they don't include mp3 player (you have to use 3rd party repositories) i think debian shall re-consider its policy on non-free firmware
Re: where to find wifi card info in linux-doc
On Fri 26 Nov 2021 at 21:12:25 (-0500), lou wrote: > > On 11/26/21 11:08 AM, Christian Britz wrote: > > Christian Britz wrote: > > > This actually works recursively with the zgrep command from the zutils > > > package, thank you! > > And still it doesn't find the file mentioned by deloptes, amazing! :-D > > Thanks to all that reply! > > WUSB-Design-overview.txt is available in linux doc 4.9, not in 5.10 If it /were/ available, is that what you're after (judging from the contents of 4.9)? Your original question was about wifi cards, then corrected to adapters. Generally, the kernel docs deal with chipsets, and are fairly uninterested in which hardware they are embedded. This can be frustrating when you want to purchase a suitable device, as even the same model name (on the box) can have different chipsets inside from one instance to another, particularly with cheap ones. So it might help to clarify from which viewpoint you seek the info, and any particular cards/adapters/chipsets involved. Cheers, David.
Re: where to find wifi card info in linux-doc
On 11/26/21 11:08 AM, Christian Britz wrote: Christian Britz wrote: This actually works recursively with the zgrep command from the zutils package, thank you! And still it doesn't find the file mentioned by deloptes, amazing! :-D Thanks to all that reply! WUSB-Design-overview.txt is available in linux doc 4.9, not in 5.10
Re: where to find wifi card info in linux-doc
Christian Britz wrote: > This actually works recursively with the zgrep command from the zutils > package, thank you! And still it doesn't find the file mentioned by deloptes, amazing! :-D
Re: where to find wifi card info in linux-doc
(Sorry for replying to the personal adress first...) Stefan Monnier wrote: > AFAICT most of the files in `linux-doc/Documentation` are compressed, > so you'd need to use `zgrep`. This actually works recursively with the zgrep command from the zutils package, thank you! The installation of it throws interesting warnings on testing... [...] dpkg-divert: warning: diverting file '/bin/zgrep' from an Essential package with rename is dangerous, use --no-rename dpkg-divert: warning: diverting file '/usr/share/man/man1/zgrep.1.gz' from an Essential package with rename is dangerous, use --no-rename [...]
Re: where to find wifi card info in linux-doc
Christian Britz wrote: >> I think you are looking for usb/WUSB-Design-overview.txt which I found >> with >> >> grep -r -i wireless usb/ > > How did you do this exactly? I installed package linux-dox like lou and > issued grep -i -r wireless /usr/share/doc/linux-doc/Documentation/ , > without any results. It is always better to use the original source cd linux-4.19.190/Documentation grep -r -i wireless . sorry for not mentioning that and I wonder how it is possible that the Documentation directory has different content and notice -i wireless (means ignore case for wireless) , while -r is to do recursive grep -- FCD6 3719 0FFB F1BF 38EA 4727 5348 5F1F DCFE BCB0
Re: where to find wifi card info in linux-doc
On 26.11.21 at 09:56 deloptes wrote: > lou wrote: > >> sorry, i use wrong word >> >> i mean wifi adapter, not wifi card >> >> in Chinese, it's called wireless card, though it's really USB wifi adapter > > I think you are looking for usb/WUSB-Design-overview.txt which I found with > > grep -r -i wireless usb/ How did you do this exactly? I installed package linux-dox like lou and issued grep -i -r wireless /usr/share/doc/linux-doc/Documentation/ , without any results.
Re: where to find wifi card info in linux-doc
lou wrote: i want info about wifi cards supported by kernel The kernel wiki has a good list of supported chips: https://wireless.wiki.kernel.org/en/users/drivers Thomas
Re: where to find wifi card info in linux-doc
lou wrote: > sorry, i use wrong word > > i mean wifi adapter, not wifi card > > in Chinese, it's called wireless card, though it's really USB wifi adapter I think you are looking for usb/WUSB-Design-overview.txt which I found with grep -r -i wireless usb/ otherwise grep -r -i wireless . points to different aspects ABI, Netowrking, USB drivers etc. -- FCD6 3719 0FFB F1BF 38EA 4727 5348 5F1F DCFE BCB0
Re: where to find wifi card info in linux-doc
sorry, i use wrong word i mean wifi adapter, not wifi card in Chinese, it's called wireless card, though it's really USB wifi adapter
