Re: GR Proposal 2: Declassification of -private

2005-11-18 Thread Aníbal Monsalve Salazar
On Fri, Nov 18, 2005 at 04:09:58PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: Okay, incorporating Manoj's proposed changes, and some other ideas: On Tue, Nov 15, 2005 at 12:08:15PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: One of the issues Debian often stands for is transparency and openness -- indeed, the openness of our

Re: GR Proposal 2: Declassification of -private

2005-11-18 Thread Kalle Kivimaa
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Anthony Towns aj@azure.humbug.org.au writes: Okay, incorporating Manoj's proposed changes, and some other ideas: On Tue, Nov 15, 2005 at 12:08:15PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: One of the issues Debian often stands for is transparency and openness

Re: GR Proposal 2: Declassification of -private

2005-11-18 Thread Wouter Verhelst
Op vr, 18-11-2005 te 16:09 +1000, schreef Anthony Towns: Okay, incorporating Manoj's proposed changes, and some other ideas: [...] --- In accordance with principles of openness and transparency, Debian will seek to declassify and publish posts of historical or ongoing significance made to the

Re: GR Proposal 2: Declassification of -private

2005-11-18 Thread MJ Ray
It seems my previous post got lost or ignored. Retrying: Anthony Towns wrote: * The team will automatically declassify and publish posts made to that list that are three or more years old, with the following exceptions: I don't think we have any moral right and barely any legal

Re: GR Proposal 2: Declassification of -private

2005-11-18 Thread Daniel Ruoso
Em Sex, 2005-11-18 às 16:09 +1000, Anthony Towns escreveu: Seconds so far: Don Armstrong (original or Manoj's changes) Joey Hess (original only, no comment on Manoj's changes) Wouter Verhelst (Manoj's changes, no comment on original) Bas Zoetekouw (Manoj's changes, no comment on

Re: GR Proposal 2: Declassification of -private

2005-11-18 Thread Daniel Ruoso
Em Sex, 2005-11-18 às 16:09 +1000, Anthony Towns escreveu: Thus, I propose that the Debian project resolve that: --- In accordance with principles of openness and transparency, Debian will seek to declassify and publish posts of historical or ongoing significance made to the Debian Private

GR Proposal 3: Declassification of -private - Future content only

2005-11-18 Thread Daniel Ruoso
Just to formalize what I've already said... I think this should be considered for future -private content even if the GR Proposal 2 (which I second) is rejected, considering one argument against it is that people didn't expect to have it's private posts revealed. -- Thus, I propose that the

Re: GR Proposal 2: Declassification of -private

2005-11-18 Thread Matthew Garrett
Monroe Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't think we have any moral right and barely any legal standing to publish messages which were made to a private mailing list under the current regime. The veto option doesn't cover this if we have lost contact with the author(s). Please add: Any post

Re: GR Proposal 2: Declassification of -private

2005-11-18 Thread Joey Hess
Daniel Ruoso wrote: I change my position as it seems that's needed to take it to the vote. I consider the whole proposal more important than the differences between them Me too, but I suspect Manoj will be happy with Aj's new proposal, so I will limit myself to seconding it. -- see shy jo

Re: GR Proposal 3: Declassification of -private - Future content only

2005-11-18 Thread Greg Norris
On Fri, Nov 18, 2005 at 11:41:34AM -0300, Daniel Ruoso wrote: Just to formalize what I've already said... I think this should be considered for future -private content even if the GR Proposal 2 (which I second) is rejected, considering one argument against it is that people didn't expect to

Re: GR Proposal 2: Declassification of -private

2005-11-18 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Fri, Nov 18, 2005 at 04:09:58PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: Thus, I propose that the Debian project resolve that: --- In accordance with principles of openness and transparency, Debian will seek to declassify and publish posts of historical or ongoing significance made to the Debian

Re: GR Proposal 2: Declassification of -private

2005-11-18 Thread Don Armstrong
On Fri, 18 Nov 2005, Anthony Towns wrote: Thus, I propose that the Debian project resolve that: --- In accordance with principles of openness and transparency, Debian will seek to declassify and publish posts of historical or ongoing significance made to the Debian Private Mailing List.

Re: GR Proposal 3: Declassification of -private - Future content only

2005-11-18 Thread John Lightsey
On Fri, 2005-11-18 at 12:36 -0600, Greg Norris wrote: On Fri, Nov 18, 2005 at 11:41:34AM -0300, Daniel Ruoso wrote: Just to formalize what I've already said... I think this should be considered for future -private content even if the GR Proposal 2 (which I second) is rejected,

Re: GR Proposal 3: Declassification of -private - Future content only

2005-11-18 Thread Kalle Kivimaa
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Daniel Ruoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Just to formalize what I've already said... I think this should be considered for future -private content even if the GR Proposal 2 (which I second) is rejected, considering one argument against it is that

Re: GR Proposal 2: Declassification of -private

2005-11-18 Thread Anthony Towns
On Fri, Nov 18, 2005 at 04:09:58PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: Thus, I propose that the Debian project resolve that: So, this has 7 sponsors now, namely: Aníbal Monsalve Salazar [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kalle Kivimaa [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL

Re: GR Proposal 3: Declassification of -private - Future content only

2005-11-18 Thread Anthony Towns
On Fri, Nov 18, 2005 at 11:41:34AM -0300, Daniel Ruoso wrote: -- Thus, I propose that the Debian project resolve that the process defined in GR Proposal 2 will be applied *only* for the future content of debian-private mailing list. -- So obviously as proposer of the origianl GR, I'm not