As a developer, how do you embody the spirit and culture that has made
Debian a great operating system?
If elected DPL, how will you inspire the same in others?
--
Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS
Debian Developer to set it on, and I
Hi!
The following question is optional, as it discloses private information,
so feel free not to answer it. But non the less, I'm curious and would
appreciate, if you would be willing to answer. So here it goes:
Suppose that you would not run for DPL: Who would you vote and why?
Best
Our users includes not only an individual with a single computer who
never sees the source, but also derivative distributions, private
organizations, system administrators, etc, all of whom may need to
modify the source for their own purposes.
Our users, if they want to modify, study,
* Russ Allbery (r...@debian.org) [100323 01:47]:
AJ's question, and particularly his other longer response to the question
about disappearing DPLs, really highlight what I think are some
disagreements between he and I about how we see Debian. I fundamentally
do not believe in the grow or die
* Stefano Zacchiroli (z...@debian.org) [100322 21:50]:
All in all, this is probably a topic where a quick and easy
devotee-based poll might show where the DD body stands in the trade-off
between the advantages and disadvantages of enabling popcon submissions
by default, and finally get this
On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 06:49:51PM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
So, since part of the reason that I joined the race was to make sure it
wouldn't get too boring, I was hoping there'd be a bit more life on this
list. Since there isn't, allow me to ask a few questions myself.
FWIW, I disagree
* Wouter Verhelst (wou...@debian.org) [100319 22:57]:
On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 10:36:53PM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 06:44:23PM +, Clint Adams wrote:
Is there any legitimate reason that wanna-build access should be
restricted to any group smaller than the
* Charles Plessy (ple...@debian.org) [100317 01:52]:
I propose that we reshape the sections and priorities of our archive, so that
it is easy to remove from Testing any RC bug that is not in a core pakcage,
and is old and not tagged RFH.
We already do that, provided the RC bug is old enough.
* Yavor Doganov (ya...@gnu.org) [100317 14:55]:
- mips/mipsel are probably the most hated archs by DDs in the past few
months :-), and there's no ironclad way to secure their future too.
First of all, the needs-build queue is almost empty on mipsel (and was
on mips till we lost the hard disk
On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 11:25:39PM +0100, Kurt Roeckx wrote:
I think that one of issues we have is that there is alot of work
to be done by some teams, some of them even regularaly mail that
they need more members, but they seem to have a hard time keeping
the numbers up, burning the other
* Margarita Manterola (margamanter...@gmail.com) [100318 21:03]:
I would like to support as many architectures as possible. We cannot
deny the passage of time, however, and so we must accept that some
architectures are bound to stop being supported. This even happened
some years ago with
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 09:47:17AM +0100, Andreas Barth wrote:
JFTR, I don't think that a quick and easy poll is always a
sufficient way to resolve issues. I think one of the strength of
Debian is that we try to analyze the situation before we do a
decision.
I absolutely agree. On one hand,
Dear all,
just for the record, I will not answer to insulting or accusatory emails. Some
of them may contain interesting questions or comments, though. Please feel free
to repeat them in a separate message if you also found them interesting.
Cheers,
--
Charles
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Hi Charles,
Charles Plessy schrieb:
just for the record, I will not answer to insulting or accusatory emails. Some
of them may contain interesting questions or comments, though. Please feel free
to repeat them in a separate message if you also found them interesting.
That opens up for an
On 24/03/10 00:27, Charles Plessy wrote:
Our users, if they want to modify, study, redistribute or use after rebuild
our
system, need the source. At no moment these operations involve modifying a RFC
or a binary program that is aimed at run on a Windows system. I conclude that
that kind of
Charles Plessy ple...@debian.org writes:
just for the record, I will not answer to insulting or accusatory emails. Some
of them may contain interesting questions or comments, though. Please feel
free
to repeat them in a separate message if you also found them interesting.
OK, so I do have a
Hi!
* Charles Plessy ple...@debian.org [2010-03-24 19:09:32 +0900]:
just for the record, I will not answer to insulting or accusatory
emails. Some of them may contain interesting questions or comments,
though. Please feel free to repeat them in a separate message if you
also found
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 09:57:16AM +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 06:49:51PM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
So, since part of the reason that I joined the race was to make sure it
wouldn't get too boring, I was hoping there'd be a bit more life on this
list. Since there
Hi,
On Dienstag, 23. März 2010, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
The second option aims at clarifying what is the source of the Debian
operating system. It is controversial.
It is a lot but not controversial, actually its pretty clear.
For that statement alone *I* hope NOTA will have a big win over
Dmitrijs Ledkovs wrote:
I you would like to guarantee to the users that unpacked debian source
is DFSG we should hook into unpack (similar to DpkgSrc3.0 / quilt) and
remove DFSG blobs at maintainers discretion for example by parsing
debian/copyright.
[...]
This change will result in
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 02:00:38PM +0100, Holger Levsen wrote:
Hi,
On Dienstag, 23. März 2010, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
The second option aims at clarifying what is the source of the Debian
operating system. It is controversial.
It is a lot but not controversial, actually its pretty clear.
On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 00:32:19 +, Dmitrijs Ledkovs wrote
2. If tarball is not redistributable
It belongs in non-free, or must be repackaged to become redistributable
No, If its not redistributable, It doesn't belong in non-free or any
other place we distribute software. This is why we
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 11:12:14AM +, Steve McIntyre wrote:
Sure, but to a certain extent that depends on the number of
candidates. If you look back a few more years, you'll see much more.
Oh, absolutely, it was not meant to be a blame on last year candidates
(also because I was one of them
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 09:09:43AM +0100, Alexander Reichle-Schmehl wrote:
The following question is optional, as it discloses private information,
so feel free not to answer it. But non the less, I'm curious and would
appreciate, if you would be willing to answer. So here it goes:
Le Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 08:30:03AM +0100, Gerfried Fuchs a écrit :
Hi!
I have a question to the candidates: History has shown that DPLs more
or less disappear not too long after their period or at least reduce
their visible efforts immensly. I wonder where you see the reasons for
Le Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 11:46:22AM +0100, Alexander Reichle-Schmehl a écrit :
That opens up for an interesting question: What ways to settle a
conflict with fellow Debian Developers seem proper to you? Do we have
to expect further unspecified ignores from your side should you be
Hi!
On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 3:44 PM, Clint Adams sch...@debian.org wrote:
5) Is there any part of Debian that should be restricted
to a small subset of developers, and if so why?
So, I've taken quite a while to ponder about these questions,
particularly this last one. Several people have
On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 2:49 PM, Wouter Verhelst wou...@debian.org wrote:
In my rebuttal, I mention that I lack a sense of vision in your
platform. In case that wasn't clear, this is because the ideas you
mention, while they might work to some extent, seem to be a bit
superficial; I'm afraid
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 5:09 AM, Alexander Reichle-Schmehl
alexan...@schmehl.info wrote:
The following question is optional, as it discloses private information, so
feel free not to answer it. But non the less, I'm curious and would
appreciate, if you would be willing to answer. So here it
Hi,
On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 3:45 PM, Bernd Zeimetz be...@bzed.de wrote:
with 20100124144741.gd13...@kunpuu.plessy.org Charles Plessy came up with a
draft GR Simplification of license and copyright requirements for the Debian
packages..
I'd like to know from Charles Plessy if the draft from
Hi Marga,
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 02:45:11PM -0300, Margarita Manterola wrote:
On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 3:45 PM, Bernd Zeimetz be...@bzed.de wrote:
with 20100124144741.gd13...@kunpuu.plessy.org Charles Plessy came up with
a
draft GR Simplification of license and copyright requirements
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 4:19 AM, Anthony Towns a...@erisian.com.au wrote:
What's your estimate of the current number of Debian users?
Do Debian users include Debian derivatives users? :)
I think this question is indeed very tricky, and I don't see the point
of it being posted as a question
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 3:14 PM, Jan Hauke Rahm j...@debian.org wrote:
If I understand you correctly, you dissociate yourself from Charles's
POV about what's part of Debian and thus what needs to be free according
to DFSG. In another thread you said all other candidates are above NOTA
for
Stefano Zacchiroli z...@debian.org writes:
So, I apologize, but I'm not going to disclose my leader vote in public.
I think the better phrasing for the original question would be:
List reasons why the other candidates would make a good DPL.
This question does not ask you to divulge your
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 3:49 AM, Steve Langasek vor...@debian.org wrote:
As a developer, how do you embody the spirit and culture that has made
Debian a great operating system?
This is a very difficult question, because answering it implies that I
accept that I do embody such spirit and
On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 7:25 PM, Kurt Roeckx k...@roeckx.be wrote:
I think that one of issues we have is that there is alot of work
to be done by some teams, some of them even regularaly mail that
they need more members, but they seem to have a hard time keeping
the numbers up, burning the
On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 9:24 PM, Charles Plessy ple...@debian.org wrote:
After the very painful GR about “Lenny and resolving DFSG violations”,
discussions started about our voting system, and the fact that it does not
accomodate well with mixture of supermajority and regular options. Also,
On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 06:49:51PM +0100, I wrote:
So, since part of the reason that I joined the race was to make sure it
wouldn't get too boring, I was hoping there'd be a bit more life on this
list. Since there isn't, allow me to ask a few questions myself.
[Stefano]
FWIW, I disagree
On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 11:25:39PM +0100, Kurt Roeckx wrote:
I think that one of issues we have is that there is alot of work
to be done by some teams, some of them even regularaly mail that
they need more members, but they seem to have a hard time keeping
the numbers up, burning the other
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 09:24:45AM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
Le Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 12:03:32PM -0700, Russ Allbery a écrit :
For whatever it's worth, I believe the second option changes the
foundation documents and would require a 3:1 majority. The person who's
canonical on that is
On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 11:49:53PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
As a developer, how do you embody the spirit and culture that has made
Debian a great operating system?
I think I'm a person who's not afraid to try something if I think it
will improve the project in some way. I'm also not afraid
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 09:09:43AM +0100, Alexander Reichle-Schmehl wrote:
Suppose that you would not run for DPL: Who would you vote and why?
I have a habit of publically (on my blog) disclosing my DPL vote, with
explanation, and will probably do so again this year (though that is not
by any
On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 12:36:05AM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
Lastly, for the meaning of ‘accusatory’, perhaps I could have found a
better word? But I am not a native speaker. What I mean is that if in
one message, somebody writes ‘you want this [bad thing]’ or ‘you did
not do that [good
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 02:10:23PM +0100, Mike Hommey wrote:
At the risk of repeating myself (I already said it in an answer to
Charles' GR proposal), these core values are also what all DDs agreed to
abide by. If Charles doesn't like Debian's core values, maybe he should
resign.
The last
Dear candidates,
With respect to attracting new contributors, please ponder the idea of a
formal one-on-one mentoring scheme (as opposed to one-off interactions via
d-mentors).
I do realise that personal mentorship takes time; that's a reason to set
criteria [1] and thresholds on who gets to
Le Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 08:12:17PM +, Neil McGovern a écrit :
The position of DPL attracts rather a lot of press attention. This at
times will be accusatory, inflamatory and downright rude. Welcome to the
world of journalism.
Do you intend to ignore these, or just ones from developers?
Hi!
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 8:15 PM, Serafeim Zanikolas ser...@hellug.gr wrote:
With respect to attracting new contributors, please ponder the idea of a
formal one-on-one mentoring scheme (as opposed to one-off interactions via
d-mentors).
There's been a mentoring program inside the Debian
Dear all,
Following the ‘Membership procedures’ GR, discussion on membership were started
after the Lenny release, but eventually stopped. In this thread it was proposed
to trust DDs to nominate other members and I found the idea very interesting.
In order to make it more consensual, there is
Le Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 12:15:45AM +0100, Serafeim Zanikolas a écrit :
Dear candidates,
I do realise that personal mentorship takes time; that's a reason to set
criteria [1] and thresholds on who gets to have a mentor [2], instead of not
considering the idea all together.
I'd think that,
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