Re: GR proposal: give up on declassifying debian-private (Re: General Resolution: Declassifying debian-private results)

Bas Wijnen dijo [Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 06:47:36PM +]: > On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 06:06:09PM +0200, Ondřej Surý wrote: > > +1 to what Holder said. I believe it would be better to have this GR as > > simple as possible. And get into multiple options later if FD wins even > > this. > > That is not

Re: Proposed GR: Repeal the 2005 vote for declassification of the debian-private mailing list

On Sun, Sep 11, 2016 at 10:17:46AM +0200, Bart Martens wrote: > On Thu, 2016-09-01 at 23:15 -0500, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > > === BEGIN GR TEXT === > > > > Title: Acknowledge that the debian-private list will remain private. > > > > 1. The 2005 General Resolution titled "Declassification of debian-

Re: GR proposal: give up on declassifying debian-private (Re: General Resolution: Declassifying debian-private results)

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 06:06:09PM +0200, Ondřej Surý wrote: > +1 to what Holder said. I believe it would be better to have this GR as > simple as possible. And get into multiple options later if FD wins even > this. That is not how Condorcet works.

Re: GR proposal: give up on declassifying debian-private (Re: General Resolution: Declassifying debian-private results)

Kurt Roeckx dijo [Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 07:50:51PM +0200]: > > Anyway, I do clearly see value in having your proposal as part of the > > ballot (as well as Iain's, if he pushes it on and makes it a formal > > proposal. I will call for a vote... Say, by Friday. Meanwhile, we have > > some time to

Re: GR proposal: give up on declassifying debian-private (Re: General Resolution: Declassifying debian-private results)

On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 10:34:42AM -0500, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > Ian Jackson dijo [Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 04:23:31PM +0100]: > > > > Do I need to re-make my proposal as an amendment to Gunnar's or are > > > > you happy to treat it as such ? > > > > > > FWIW I think we will be better off if we have it

Re: Proposed GR: Acknowledge difficulty of declassifying debian-private

Le 20/09/2016 à 18:54, Iain Lane a écrit : > On Fri, Sep 09, 2016 at 06:24:38PM +0100, Iain Lane wrote: >> […] > > OK then, thanks for the discussion up-(the other)thread and on IRC. I > propose this as an amendment. AIUI it either needs to be seconded by K > developers or accepted as an

Re: Proposed GR: Acknowledge difficulty of declassifying debian-private

Iain Lane writes ("Re: Proposed GR: Acknowledge difficulty of declassifying debian-private"): > 2. There shall be no declassification of any portion of the > debian-private archives, except when the authors of all material > being declassified have explicitly consented, or the author

Re: Proposed GR: Acknowledge difficulty of declassifying debian-private

* Iain Lane , 2016-09-20, 17:54: There shall be no declassification of any portion of the debian-private archives, except when the authors of all material being declassified have explicitly consented, So far so good... or the author is quoting only his or her own text.

Re: GR proposal: give up on declassifying debian-private (Re: General Resolution: Declassifying debian-private results)

Ian Jackson dijo [Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 06:03:17PM +0100]: > Kurt Roeckx writes ("Re: GR proposal: give up on declassifying debian-private > (Re: General Resolution: Declassifying debian-private results)"): > > I assumed it was, was planning on asking, and with this message > > I'm happy to treat

Re: GR proposal: give up on declassifying debian-private (Re: General Resolution: Declassifying debian-private results)

Ian Jackson dijo [Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 05:21:14PM +0100]: > I'm afraid I don't agree. As I have said, I am unhappy with any > option which does not clearly state what if any authority there is for > (or prohibition there is of) declassification of -private. I have > come to this view because it

Re: GR proposal: give up on declassifying debian-private (Re: General Resolution: Declassifying debian-private results)

Kurt Roeckx writes ("Re: GR proposal: give up on declassifying debian-private (Re: General Resolution: Declassifying debian-private results)"): > I assumed it was, was planning on asking, and with this message > I'm happy to treat it as such. Thanks. Gunnar, do you intend to adopt it ("propose

Re: Proposed GR: Acknowledge difficulty of declassifying debian-private

On Fri, Sep 09, 2016 at 06:24:38PM +0100, Iain Lane wrote: > […] OK then, thanks for the discussion up-(the other)thread and on IRC. I propose this as an amendment. AIUI it either needs to be seconded by K developers or accepted as an amendment by Holger, Gunnar or whoever the original proposer

Re: GR proposal: give up on declassifying debian-private (Re: General Resolution: Declassifying debian-private results)

On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 03:43:43PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: > Kurt Roeckx writes ("Re: GR proposal: give up on declassifying debian-private > (Re: General Resolution: Declassifying debian-private results)"): > > So that proposal has 5 seconds now, and so is accepted. > > Do I need to re-make my

Re: GR proposal: give up on declassifying debian-private (Re: General Resolution: Declassifying debian-private results)

Ondřej Surý writes ("Re: GR proposal: give up on declassifying debian-private (Re: General Resolution: Declassifying debian-private results)"): > +1 to what Holder said. I believe it would be better to have this GR as > simple as possible. And get into multiple options later if FD wins even

Re: GR proposal: give up on declassifying debian-private (Re: General Resolution: Declassifying debian-private results)

+1 to what Holder said. I believe it would be better to have this GR as simple as possible. And get into multiple options later if FD wins even this. On 20 September 2016 5:58:33 PM Holger Levsen wrote: Hi, I will not comment on the process, just on this proposal:

Re: GR proposal: give up on declassifying debian-private (Re: General Resolution: Declassifying debian-private results)

Hi, I will not comment on the process, just on this proposal: (comments inline, real reply below) On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 04:47:16PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: > Formal proposal for amendment to Gunnar's GR: delete all, and replace > with: > > Title: Acknowledge difficulty of declassifying

Re: GR proposal: give up on declassifying debian-private (Re: General Resolution: Declassifying debian-private results)

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Gunnar Wolf writes ("Re: GR proposal: give up on declassifying debian-private (Re: General Resolution: Declassifying debian-private results)"): > Anyway, I do clearly see value in having your proposal as part of the > ballot (as well as Iain's, if

Re: GR proposal: give up on declassifying debian-private (Re: General Resolution: Declassifying debian-private results)

Ian Jackson dijo [Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 04:23:31PM +0100]: > > > Do I need to re-make my proposal as an amendment to Gunnar's or are > > > you happy to treat it as such ? > > > > FWIW I think we will be better off if we have it as a distinct option > > (as it is semantically quite different). > >

Re: GR proposal: give up on declassifying debian-private (Re: General Resolution: Declassifying debian-private results)

Gunnar Wolf writes ("Re: GR proposal: give up on declassifying debian-private (Re: General Resolution: Declassifying debian-private results)"): > Ian Jackson dijo [Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 03:43:43PM +0100]: > > Do I need to re-make my proposal as an amendment to Gunnar's or are > > you happy to

Re: GR proposal: give up on declassifying debian-private (Re: General Resolution: Declassifying debian-private results)

Ian Jackson dijo [Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 03:43:43PM +0100]: > Kurt Roeckx writes ("Re: GR proposal: give up on declassifying debian-private > (Re: General Resolution: Declassifying debian-private results)"): > > So that proposal has 5 seconds now, and so is accepted. > > Do I need to re-make my

Re: GR proposal: give up on declassifying debian-private (Re: General Resolution: Declassifying debian-private results)

Kurt Roeckx writes ("Re: GR proposal: give up on declassifying debian-private (Re: General Resolution: Declassifying debian-private results)"): > So that proposal has 5 seconds now, and so is accepted. Do I need to re-make my proposal as an amendment to Gunnar's or are you happy to treat it as

Re: Proposed GR: Acknowledge difficulty of declassifying debian-private

Iain Lane writes ("Re: Proposed GR: Acknowledge difficulty of declassifying debian-private"): > I wonder if something like this would find favour too, at least as an > option on the ballot. I'm not convinced about it, but I want to float it > for the consideration of others. I think this would