On 3/21/19 5:04 PM, Jonathan Carter wrote:
On 2019/03/21 22:25, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
Yes, please go.
1. Do you think that free software is inherently political? Do you think
there's place for politics in free software?
2. The same as #1, but for Debian instead of free software.
Well, I
On 15348 March 1977, Jonathan Carter wrote:
1. Do you think that free software is inherently political? Do you think
there's place for politics in free software?
2. The same as #1, but for Debian instead of free software.
Well, I think that in the case of #1, the Free Software Foundation (and
Hello,
On Thu 21 Mar 2019 at 05:29PM +01, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
> On 15348 March 1977, Sean Whitton wrote:
>
>> I won't write a long reply because it's not that important to the DPL
>> election, but I did want to note that `dgit push-source` has answers for
>> everything you've listed. I'd
On 2019/03/21 22:25, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
> Yes, please go.
>
>> 1. Do you think that free software is inherently political? Do you think
>> there's place for politics in free software?
>> 2. The same as #1, but for Debian instead of free software.
Well, I think that in the case of #1, the Free
On 15348 March 1977, Jonathan Carter wrote:
My question is to the other 4 DPL candidates, and I'm happy to answer it
too if anyone is interested in my view.
Yes, please go.
1. Do you think that free software is inherently political? Do you think
there's place for politics in free software?
I know some people will be unhappy at me just for asking this question,
but we would be naive to ignore the topic all together, and I don't know
exactly where the others draw their lines yet.
My question is to the other 4 DPL candidates, and I'm happy to answer it
too if anyone is interested in
On 15348 March 1977, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
Couldn't we imagine a schema where a push of an annotated signed tag to
the salsa repository triggers a gitlab-ci job that notifies a service on
ftp-master that there's a git repo with a suitable signed tag waiting?
that service could then fetch the
Hi,
Could you stop playing with Reply-To and leave those prospective
discussions where they started? I think that it's perfectly expected for
discussions around questions asked on -vote@ to diverge a bit into
interesting sub-threads. That's just how DPL campaigns work.
It's the second time
Hi,
+1 for the suggestion of Lucas
-1 for discussing this on debian-vote making it hard to find later
Reply-To set to debian-devel.
Kind regards
Andreas.
On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 06:21:15PM +0100, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
> On 21/03/19 at 16:52 +, Ian Jackson wrote:
> > Joerg Jaspert
On 21/03/19 at 16:52 +, Ian Jackson wrote:
> Joerg Jaspert writes ("Re: Questions about "Winding down my Debian
> involvement""):
> > On 15348 March 1977, Sean Whitton wrote:
> > > I won't write a long reply because it's not that important to the DPL
> > > election, but I did want to note
Hi Lucas
On 2019/03/20 11:29, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
> All platforms somehow mention this motto:
>
> Jonathan Carter:
>> I like the concept of the "Universal Operating System". To me it means
>> that Debian is adaptable to different technologies, situations and use
>> cases.
I was considering
Joerg Jaspert writes ("Re: Questions about "Winding down my Debian
involvement""):
> On 15348 March 1977, Sean Whitton wrote:
> > I won't write a long reply because it's not that important to the DPL
> > election, but I did want to note that `dgit push-source` has answers for
> > everything
On 15348 March 1977, Sean Whitton wrote:
I won't write a long reply because it's not that important to the DPL
election, but I did want to note that `dgit push-source` has answers for
everything you've listed. I'd encourage you to take a(nother) look!
Do those answers only apply if you still
Hello,
On Thu 21 Mar 2019 at 09:02AM +0100, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
> Ideally you get an upload by a simple git push.
`dgit push-source` is very nearly a simple git push. Your laptop FTPs
stuff in the background, but that's transparent to the user.
> Now we want to control a bit WHEN it uploads.
Hi JMP
On 2019/03/20 03:43, Jose Miguel Parrella wrote:
> * As a DPL, what steps would you take (if any) towards reducing the
> workload and breadth of activities the DPL is expected to engage in?
Chris's "bits from the dpl" were more frequent and comprehensive than
previous DPLs, and the good
* Raphael Hertzog [2019-03-21 10:32]:
> sustainability/innovation through paid positions/projects for Martin
...
> (I hope my short summaries do not distort too much your platforms)
I believe there are 2 main points in my platform. The one you list as
well a cultural change.
> - Martin, what
Quoting Andreas Tille (2019-03-21 09:31:09)
> On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 09:14:09AM +0100, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
> > On 21/03/19 at 08:38 +0100, Andreas Tille wrote:
> > >
> > > I do not want to turn this into a cdbs to dh flamewar.
>
> May be I failed despite (or because??) I stated it explicitly?
Hey Andreas
On 2019/03/21 09:38, Andreas Tille wrote:
>> I've recently adopted packages with worse make files than that and
>> successfully converting them wasn't too hard.
>
> I think the point of the writer which is perfectly in line with mine is
> not whether the file itself is good or bad.
My rebuttal section will basically be titled "Roping them in and working
with them," and will I think entirely answer your questions.
I'd prefer to take the time to write something polished and include it
in my platform.
--Sam
> "Stefano" == Stefano Zacchiroli writes:
Stefano> But I was following up specifically to Sam's point that
Stefano> "there would be two classes of developers and that
Stefano> volunteers would be frustrated/disappointed they were not
Stefano> getting paid" --- with respect to
Hi Ian
On 2019/03/20 15:35, Ian Jackson wrote:
> I would like to reframe this question:
>
> When should we expect a Debian maintainer to put in effort for use
> cases, software designs, hardware platforms, etc., that they don't
> personally care about ? I have an answer to this:
>
> So long as
Hello Sam & Martin,
I have read your platforms and found both of them very interesting
but also very focused on one big point: sustainability/innovation through paid
positions/projects for Martin, mediation, bringing compassion and better
decision making for Sam. (I hope my short summaries do not
On Wed, 20 Mar 2019, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 02:10:13PM -0400, Sam Hartman wrote:
> > It seems like having the Debian Project and DPL working to get more
> > paid developers might run into some of the same issues. In particular
> > there might be a perception that
Hi Lucas,
On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 09:14:09AM +0100, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
> On 21/03/19 at 08:38 +0100, Andreas Tille wrote:
> >
> > I do not want to turn this into a cdbs to dh flamewar.
May be I failed despite (or because??) I stated it explicitly?
I've set "Reply-To" to debian-devel and
On 21/03/19 at 08:38 +0100, Andreas Tille wrote:
> > So, to answer your question, I do think having a wide discussion and
> > then some final decision for it scheduled would be useful. I wouldn't
> > want to force dh9+ per sé (people still use CDBS and are apparently
> > happy with it), but I do
On 15347 March 1977, Jose Miguel Parrella wrote:
One of the questions in my platform hinted at one point: The "package"
managers various new languages came up with.
Do you (and other candidates) see this as a threat or as an
opportunity?
Both.
It is a threat if we do nothing and ignore it
On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 08:25:14AM +0100, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
> On 15347 March 1977, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
>
> > As a random factoid related to this: in the Debian contributors survey
> > that we ran a while ago, ~18% of the respondents who declared to be
> > Debian contributors also
On 15347 March 1977, Sean Whitton wrote:
I would actually like if we end up with a "git push turns into an
upload". Which would need some central $thing for it to make it so. Not
sure thats salsa. Or something seperately (but maybe together with it).
We already have something that is quite
On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 11:13:58PM +0200, Jonathan Carter wrote:
> I'm sorry if that's not the answer you were looking for, but that's how
> I generally feel about it.
I wasn't looking for specific answers. I was just interested in your
opinion. ;-)
There are different kind of texts in this
On 15347 March 1977, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
As a random factoid related to this: in the Debian contributors survey
that we ran a while ago, ~18% of the respondents who declared to be
Debian contributors also declared to be paid (at least in part) for
their contributions [1].
I think there
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