General Resolution: Init systems and systemd: First call for votes

2019-12-06 Thread Debian Project Secretary - Kurt Roeckx
Hi, This is the first call for votes for the General Resolution about init systems and systemd. Voting period starts 2019-12-07 00:00:00 UTC Votes must be received by 2019-12-27 23:59:59 UTC The following ballot is for voting on init systems and systemd. This vote is being

Re: Option G update [signed] (was Re: Proposal: Reaffirm our commitment to support portability and multiple implementations)

2019-12-06 Thread Guillem Jover
On Fri, 2019-12-06 at 22:50:32 +0100, Kurt Roeckx wrote: > That's 5, I'll update everything. Thanks for this Kurt! Much appreciated! Regards, Guillem

Re: Option G update [signed] (was Re: Proposal: Reaffirm our commitment to support portability and multiple implementations)

2019-12-06 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Kurt Roeckx (2019-12-06 23:06:28) > On Fri, Dec 06, 2019 at 10:50:32PM +0100, Kurt Roeckx wrote: > > > > That's 5, I'll update everything. > > The website should be updated very soon. Thanks a lot, Kurt! - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist & Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45

Re: Option G update [signed] (was Re: Proposal: Reaffirm our commitment to support portability and multiple implementations)

2019-12-06 Thread Ricardo Mones
On Fri, Dec 06, 2019 at 09:51:50PM +0100, Guillem Jover wrote: > [ Sorry, resending signed this time around. :/ ] > > Hi! > > Ok, so here's what I'd like (or would have liked) to get into the ballot, > given the new context after the addition of the combined D+G option. But > it's not very clear

Re: Option G update [signed] (was Re: Proposal: Reaffirm our commitment to support portability and multiple implementations)

2019-12-06 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Fri, Dec 06, 2019 at 10:50:32PM +0100, Kurt Roeckx wrote: > > That's 5, I'll update everything. The website should be updated very soon. Kurt

Re: Updated draft ballot

2019-12-06 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Fri, Dec 06, 2019 at 07:54:59PM +0100, Kurt Roeckx wrote: > On Thu, Dec 05, 2019 at 11:55:59PM +0100, Kurt Roeckx wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Here is a new draft ballot: > > Here is a new one: And even a newer one: Voting period starts 2019-12-07 00:00:00 UTC Votes must be

Re: Option G update [signed] (was Re: Proposal: Reaffirm our commitment to support portability and multiple implementations)

2019-12-06 Thread Alberto Gonzalez Iniesta
On Fri, Dec 06, 2019 at 09:51:50PM +0100, Guillem Jover wrote: > X< > Title: Reaffirm our commitment to support portability and multiple > implementations > > Principles > ~~ > > The Debian project reaffirms its commitment to be the glue that binds > and integrates different

Re: Option G update (was Re: Proposal: Reaffirm our commitment to support portability and multiple implementations)

2019-12-06 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Friday, December 6, 2019 3:59:43 PM EST Kurt Roeckx wrote: > On Fri, Dec 06, 2019 at 09:04:39PM +0100, Guillem Jover wrote: > > Hi! > > > > Ok, so here's what I'd like (or would have liked) to get into the ballot, > > given the new context after the addition of the combined D+G option. But > >

Re: Option G update [signed] (was Re: Proposal: Reaffirm our commitment to support portability and multiple implementations)

2019-12-06 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Fri, Dec 06, 2019 at 04:48:48PM -0500, Scott Kitterman wrote: > > Seconded. That's 5, I'll update everything. Kurt

Re: Option G update [signed] (was Re: Proposal: Reaffirm our commitment to support portability and multiple implementations)

2019-12-06 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Friday, December 6, 2019 3:51:50 PM EST Guillem Jover wrote: > [ Sorry, resending signed this time around. :/ ] > > Hi! > > Ok, so here's what I'd like (or would have liked) to get into the ballot, > given the new context after the addition of the combined D+G option. But > it's not very

Re: Option G update [signed] (was Re: Proposal: Reaffirm our commitment to support portability and multiple implementations)

2019-12-06 Thread Adam Borowski
> X< > Title: Reaffirm our commitment to support portability and multiple > implementations > > Principles > ~~ > > The Debian project reaffirms its commitment to be the glue that binds > and integrates different software that provides similar or equivalent > functionality, with

Re: Option G update [signed] (was Re: Proposal: Reaffirm our commitment to support portability and multiple implementations)

2019-12-06 Thread Kyle Robbertze
Hi On 2019/12/06 22:51, Guillem Jover wrote: > [ Sorry, resending signed this time around. :/ ] > > Hi! > > Ok, so here's what I'd like (or would have liked) to get into the ballot, > given the new context after the addition of the combined D+G option. But > it's not very clear to me whether

Re: Option G update [signed] (was Re: Proposal: Reaffirm our commitment to support portability and multiple implementations)

2019-12-06 Thread Mathias Behrle
* Guillem Jover: " Option G update [signed] (was Re: Proposal: Reaffirm our commitment to support portability and multiple implementations)" (Fri, 6 Dec 2019 21:51:50 +0100): > [ Sorry, resending signed this time around. :/ ] > > Hi! > > Ok, so here's what I'd like (or would have liked) to

Re: Option G update (was Re: Proposal: Reaffirm our commitment to support portability and multiple implementations)

2019-12-06 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Fri, Dec 06, 2019 at 09:04:39PM +0100, Guillem Jover wrote: > Hi! > > Ok, so here's what I'd like (or would have liked) to get into the ballot, > given the new context after the addition of the combined D+G option. But > it's not very clear to me whether this will be acceptable or not to the >

Option G update [signed] (was Re: Proposal: Reaffirm our commitment to support portability and multiple implementations)

2019-12-06 Thread Guillem Jover
[ Sorry, resending signed this time around. :/ ] Hi! Ok, so here's what I'd like (or would have liked) to get into the ballot, given the new context after the addition of the combined D+G option. But it's not very clear to me whether this will be acceptable or not to the Secretary, and what

Re: Option G update (was Re: Proposal: Reaffirm our commitment to support portability and multiple implementations)

2019-12-06 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
[ dropping all recipients except debian-vote@l.d.o ] Quoting Guillem Jover (2019-12-06 21:04:39) > X< > Title: Reaffirm our commitment to support portability and multiple > implementations > > Principles > ~~ > > The Debian project reaffirms its commitment to be the glue that

Option G update (was Re: Proposal: Reaffirm our commitment to support portability and multiple implementations)

2019-12-06 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! Ok, so here's what I'd like (or would have liked) to get into the ballot, given the new context after the addition of the combined D+G option. But it's not very clear to me whether this will be acceptable or not to the Secretary, and what would be the actual procedure to replace the existing

Re: Updated draft ballot

2019-12-06 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Thu, Dec 05, 2019 at 11:55:59PM +0100, Kurt Roeckx wrote: > Hi, > > Here is a new draft ballot: Here is a new one: Voting period starts 2019-12-07 00:00:00 UTC Votes must be received by 2019-12-27 23:59:59 UTC The following ballot is for voting on init systems and systemd

Re: Draft ballot

2019-12-06 Thread Ian Jackson
Ian Jackson writes ("Re: Draft ballot"): > It doesn't count lines from the start, or anything like that. > So yes, I think it works the way we would hope. Note that the checking of the "title" is not very good: # Checking the whole damned line was creating too many false positives #

Re: Draft ballot

2019-12-06 Thread Ian Jackson
Kurt Roeckx writes ("Re: Draft ballot"): > As far as I know, devotee checks the text. But I have no idea if > it supports resorting. If you want to know, I suggest you just > look at the source. The vote.d.o page had a link to this https://vote.debian.org/~secretary/devotee.git/ which I looked

Re: Last minute cominbations G+D and/or G+E

2019-12-06 Thread Guillem Jover
On Thu, 2019-12-05 at 13:18:06 +0100, Guillem Jover wrote: > I already started yesterday to try to structure and organize my > thoughts on how I'd express this. I do have today packed until later > this evening, so I think it's unrealisting that I can propose anything > today. I hope to have

Re: Proposal to overturn init systems premature GR

2019-12-06 Thread Ian Jackson
MJ Ray writes ("Re: Proposal to overturn init systems premature GR"): > I support Ian. I do not second yet because I think the secretary has > ruled it out of order. My procedural proposal is withdrawn, because the condition for doing so (what is now H appearing on the ballot) has been met. So

Re: Last minute cominbations G+D and/or G+E

2019-12-06 Thread Ian Jackson
Kurt Roeckx writes ("Re: Last minute cominbations G+D and/or G+E"): > On Thu, Dec 05, 2019 at 11:59:36AM +, Ian Jackson wrote: > > Kurt, you can make the HTML for this as follows: > > * c the HTML from proposal D > > * Adding the new title > > * Replacing the PRINCIPLES section by c the

Re: Proposal to overturn init systems premature GR

2019-12-06 Thread MJ Ray
2019-12-05 1:09:00 PM Sam Hartman : > And as I discussed in the CFV, each successive round of people who > wonder along and joins the discussion makes the cost higher in real > ways. This reads a bit like CFVing early to exclude people which I oppose. I support Ian. I do not second yet