On 2022-03-28 01:22, Christian Kastner wrote:
>
> On 2022-03-27 19:31, felix.lech...@lease-up.com wrote:
>> Would you please explain why Option 2 defeated NOTA by 124 votes but at
>> the same time defeated Option 3, which was identical to NOTA, by only 35
>> votes?
>
> This seems to be inline w
On Sun, 2022-03-27 at 18:05 +0200, Jonathan Carter wrote:
> Is that the kind of indifference you're referring to?
There are lots of situations where indifference is a factor; the
factors you mention, derivatives that no-one in Debian ever gets to
hear about, long standing derivatives that are wel
Felix Lechner writes:
> I suppose you and Kurt are saying that the denominator in the majority
> calculation is so exactly described that there is no room to read any
> protective spirit into the language of the constitution.
This is what I'm saying. Obviously I can't speak for Kurt.
Debian is
On Sun, 2022-03-27 at 18:34 +0200, Jonathan Carter wrote:
> One thing people have been really concerned about when asking for Debian
> to buy hardware is, is what happens to the hardware after they're done
> with it? So far I've just told them that they can try to pass it on to
> another DD who
On 2022-03-27 19:31, felix.lech...@lease-up.com wrote:
> Would you please explain why Option 2 defeated NOTA by 124 votes but at
> the same time defeated Option 3, which was identical to NOTA, by only 35
> votes?
This seems to be inline with what the proposer intended, though. From
the text of C
Hi Russ,
On Sun, Mar 27, 2022 at 2:29 PM Russ Allbery wrote:
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> I do not believe you have enough information to make this assertion with
> complete confidence.
That is correct, and I will at this point wait until affected parties,
if any, speak up.
Meanwhile, the uncertainty you and I both suf
Felix Lechner writes:
> Given the stated intent of Option 3 that "early 2022 is not the time for
> rushed changes like this", the Secretary should not have admitted that
> option to the ballot. It inadvertently weakened the constitutional
> protection against changes to the constitution.
The Pro
Hi Richard (2022.03.27_20:17:48_+)
> > The only cases of waste I know of happens when people ask for
> > sponsorship for DebConf and then hotel space is made for them (and
> > possibly other expenses) and then they just don't show up without any
> > heads-up. Even those are rare, but it's the o
> Please reconsider. Otherwise the project's sole alternative may be to
> replace the Project Secretary.
>
Let me get this straight --
You (a seconder of the winning option) now believe that we need to stop and
re-open
discussion on a closed matter that the whole project voted on (which I
believ
Hi Kurt,
On Sun, Mar 27, 2022 at 11:03 AM Kurt Roeckx wrote:
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> Clearly people don't think it's identical, otherwise it would not have
> been an option, or people would have voted it equally.
People were confused.
Given the stated intent of Option 3 that "early 2022 is not the time
for rushed
On 3/27/22 11:14, Jonathan Carter wrote:
The only cases of waste I know of happens when people ask for
sponsorship for DebConf and then hotel space is made for them (and
possibly other expenses) and then they just don't show up without any
heads-up. Even those are rare, but it's the only instan
On Sun, Mar 27, 2022 at 08:03:35PM +0200, Kurt Roeckx wrote:
> > Would you please explain why Option 2 defeated NOTA by 124 votes but at
> > the same time defeated Option 3, which was identical to NOTA, by only 35
> > votes?
>
> Clearly people don't think it's identical, otherwise it would not hav
felix.lech...@lease-up.com writes:
> I believe the vote should be redone.
> A repeat without Option 3 is needed so that your certified results can
> properly reflect the electorate's position with respect to the question
> posed on the ballot while also honoring our constitutional majority
> requ
Hi Felix,
On 2022-03-24 8:18 p.m., Felix Lechner wrote:
[...]
>
> For example, I requested $217 for a one-time SSD & RAM upgrade to help
> operate lintian.d.o in November of 2021. My request was not granted. I
> didn't even receive a response from Jonathan (other than a request for
> more informa
On Sun, Mar 27, 2022 at 10:31:44AM -0700, felix.lech...@lease-up.com wrote:
> Dear Mr. Secretary,
>
> As a Second for the winning Option 2, I was personally happy with last
> night's vote, but I nonetheless object to your certification of these
> tentative results:
>
> > Option 2 defeats Option
Dear Mr. Secretary,
As a Second for the winning Option 2, I was personally happy with last
night's vote, but I nonetheless object to your certification of these
tentative results:
> Option 2 defeats Option 3 by ( 142 - 107) = 35 votes.
> Option 2 defeats Option 4 by ( 185 - 61) = 124 vote
Hi Richard
On 2022/03/24 22:17, Richard Laager wrote:
The disbursements that I've heard about seem to be relatively "small
potatoes" things. Is there some huge wasteful spending occurring that
I've missed?
Most of it is small potatoes (typically less than $1000, typically for
hardware or tra
Hi Paul
On 2022/03/26 01:27, Paul Wise wrote:
We have these documents related to that:
https://wiki.debian.org/Teams/DPL#Money
https://wiki.debian.org/Teams/DPL/AskingForMoney
https://wiki.debian.org/Teams/DPL/SponsoringGuidelines
These were written by Stefano Zacchiroli in 2010 when he was DP
Hi Paul
On 2022/03/27 05:53, Paul Wise wrote:
Debian's relationship with the various distributions derived from
Debian and approach to existing and new derivatives has had a wide
range of states. Most derivatives recieve indifference from Debian.
When it comes to the indifference, I think for
Hi Paul,
On Sat, Mar 26, 2022 at 8:54 PM Paul Wise wrote:
>
> Debian's relationship with the various distributions derived from
> Debian and approach to existing and new derivatives has had a wide
> range of states. Most derivatives recieve indifference from Debian.
> There has been animosity fro
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