Re: New section for firmware.

2008-12-23 Thread Loïc Minier
. So that would mean two sets of images. What is the advantage of this section over pulling firmwares from non-free into a second set of images? -- Loïc Minier -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-vote-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas

Re: First call for votes for the Lenny release GR

2008-12-18 Thread Loïc Minier
the release of lenny, but it might also be a release killing vote such as we wont release lenny with DFSG violations. I hope a lenny ballot wouldn't have such an option, but it might. -- Loïc Minier -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-vote-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble

Re: First call for votes for the Lenny release GR

2008-12-17 Thread Loïc Minier
... There was no such proposal during the discussion period. It was your decision to make a single ballot out of these orthogonal issues, do not present the situation as being the proposers' fault. -- Loïc Minier -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-vote-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject

Re: First call for votes for the Lenny release GR

2008-12-17 Thread Loïc Minier
with the fact that we vote on them separately or on a single ballot. One reason it's worse is that we will effectively take only one decision instead of at least 3 or 4. -- Loïc Minier -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-vote-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble

Re: First call for votes for the Lenny release GR

2008-12-14 Thread Loïc Minier
of choice 1, this ballot doesn't empower us to decide on the 4 different questions. So I understand that we intend to honor all choices which beat NOTA, i.e. not only the highest ranked choice. Bye -- Loïc Minier -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-vote-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject

Re: First call for votes for the Lenny release GR

2008-12-14 Thread Loïc Minier
or may not diverge in practice. This choice doesn't have any practical impact and doesn't change any rule or project opinion. -- Loïc Minier -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-vote-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

Re: call for seconds: on firmware (was: on firmware (possible proposal))

2008-11-15 Thread Loïc Minier
however do require all other freedoms that the DFSG mandate from | components of our operating system, and | c) such firmware can and should be part of our official installation media. Looking for seconds now. Thanks, weasel -- Loïc Minier signature.asc Description: Digital

Re: On the Debian Maintainers GR

2007-07-26 Thread Loïc Minier
On Thu, Jul 26, 2007, Raphael Hertzog wrote: - Not everybody wants to be DD. [1] - Not everybody deserves to be DD. [2] - Everybody who is able to properly maintain a package according to our rules should have the possibility to maintain that package. But what if this results in higher

Re: On the Debian Maintainers GR

2007-07-26 Thread Loïc Minier
you couldn't be bothered to read Not everybody wants to be DD. Please leave my imagination alone, thanks. -- Loïc Minier -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Question for Gustavo and Sam: bringing back the fun

2007-03-15 Thread Loïc Minier
On Thu, Mar 15, 2007, Julien BLACHE wrote: Flamewars are actually fun, when done properly. Oh right; the fun part must be an omission on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flaming -- unless you meant the artistic type of flamewars. ;) -- Loïc Minier -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL

Re: Questions to all candidates: Release importance, release blockers, release quality

2007-03-06 Thread Loïc Minier
On Mon, Mar 05, 2007, Clown Adams wrote: Are you referring to Frans or AJ when you say that? Don't be jealous. -- Loïc Minier [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [GR] DD should be allowed to perform binary-only uploads

2007-02-08 Thread Loïc Minier
ftpmasters rights which should be exercized with judgment, it sounds pointless to discuss what rights remain to them. -- Loïc Minier [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [GR] DD should be allowed to perform binary-only uploads

2007-02-08 Thread Loïc Minier
occasions. it sounds pointless to discuss what rights remain to them. I could not agree more: discussion has shown to be pointless indeed, hence the GR. Or so I guess. So, a pointless discussion in response to a pointless discussion? An eye for an eye... -- Loïc Minier [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: First call for vote on immediate vote under section 4.2.2

2006-10-28 Thread Loïc Minier
Where's the vote.debian.org page? -- Loïc Minier [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Call for a vote: Re-affirm support to the Debian Project Leader

2006-10-04 Thread Loïc Minier
discussion I'm attaching the proposed WML page for this vote (vote_006.wml). Bye, -- Loïc Minier [EMAIL PROTECTED] define-tag pagetitleGeneral Resolution: Re-affirm support to the Debian Project Leader/define-tag define-tag statusP/define-tag #use wml::debian::template title=pagetitle BARETITLE=true

Re: Call for vote (was Re: Proposal: Recall the Project Leader)

2006-10-04 Thread Loïc Minier
the short voting period. (This is also mentionned in the proposed WML pages for the website.) -- Loïc Minier [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Proposal: Recall the Project Leader

2006-10-03 Thread Loïc Minier
. I wish the vote starts as soon as possible. I am fine with either one ballot or separates ballots. Denis, do you have a preference in the number of ballots? Bye, -- Loïc Minier [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Proposal: Recall the Project Leader

2006-09-24 Thread Loïc Minier
to see why the problems you describe were not problems two months or two years ago. -- Loïc Minier [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Counter-proposal: reaffirm support for the elected DPL

2006-09-24 Thread Loïc Minier
On Fri, Sep 22, 2006, Sam Hocevar wrote: On Thu, Sep 21, 2006, Loïc Minier wrote: The Debian Project reaffirms its support to its DPL. The Debian Project does not object to the experiment named Duck Tank I do not like how this not objecting might be interpreted as support. I want

Re: Resolutions concerning dunc-tank

2006-09-24 Thread Loïc Minier
Resolution. -8- So, if this resolution wins the vote, it will contradict itself since we will have had a GR on Dunc yet we find it not appropriate to have one? -- Loïc Minier [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact

Re: Proposal: Recall the Project Leader

2006-09-21 Thread Loïc Minier
and then call the leader a fraud? What if the article would claim that KDE is sluggish in Debian? I'm deeply disappointed by the french cabal supporting this DPL bashing. Please do feel responsible for the fate of the project after such a stupid vote. -- Loïc Minier [EMAIL PROTECTED

Counter-proposal: reaffirm support for the elected DPL

2006-09-21 Thread Loïc Minier
There's always None of the above, but I am pissed enough by the attitude of some developers that I want to reaffirm support for the elected DPL whatever he does to suppose Debian outside of the project. (The text of the proposal is attached.) -- Loïc Minier [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Debian

Re: Counter-proposal: reaffirm support for the elected DPL

2006-09-21 Thread Loïc Minier
On Thu, Sep 21, 2006, Loïc Minier wrote: The Debian Project does not object to the experiment named Duck Tank, lead by I'm sorry for the typo, it is Dunc-Tank. Updated text attached. -- Loïc Minier [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Debian Project reaffirms its support to its DPL. The Debian Project

Re: Counter-proposal: reaffirm support for the elected DPL

2006-09-21 Thread Loïc Minier
On Thu, Sep 21, 2006, Loïc Minier wrote: I'm sorry for the typo, it is Dunc-Tank. Updated text attached. How embarassing. I keep making typos, I hope this cheers readers up. -- Loïc Minier [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Debian Project reaffirms its support to its DPL. The Debian Project does

Re: Proposal: Recall the Project Leader

2006-09-21 Thread Loïc Minier
Debian and who want to see Debian improve. But Dunc is not endorsed by Debian, and Debian does not exercise any control over how Dunc operates. And http://www.dunc-tank.org/press.html: Dunc-Tank.org is an independent group of developers, users and supporters of Debian. -- Loïc

Re: Proposal: Recall the Project Leader

2006-09-21 Thread Loïc Minier
sponsors. -- Loïc Minier [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Proposal: Recall the Project Leader

2006-09-21 Thread Loïc Minier
understand it). Please recall your GR proposal. -- Loïc Minier [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Proposal: Recall the Project Leader

2006-09-21 Thread Loïc Minier
or helping towards the release of Etch., which is something which was meant to be as consensual as we wish nice things to people wanting nice thinkgs for Debian, but it seems to have failed. -- Loïc Minier [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject

Re: Proposal: Recall the Project Leader

2006-09-20 Thread Loïc Minier
by the energy and creativity Anthony found for this issue, even if I strongely objected to his initial plan. Please, don't be the one blocking innovation in Debian; be innovant instead. Thanks, -- Loïc Minier [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject

Re: Proposal: The DFSG do not require source code for data, including firmware

2006-08-23 Thread Loïc Minier
is clearly non-free. Yes, that's why we (including Aurélien) want to keep it in non-free. -- Loïc Minier [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]