Re: Q to all candidates: Universal Operating System

2019-03-21 Thread Jonathan Carter
Hi Lucas On 2019/03/20 11:29, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > All platforms somehow mention this motto: > > Jonathan Carter: >> I like the concept of the "Universal Operating System". To me it means >> that Debian is adaptable to different technologies, situations and use >> cases. I was considering

Re: Q to all candidates: Universal Operating System

2019-03-21 Thread Jonathan Carter
Hi Ian On 2019/03/20 15:35, Ian Jackson wrote: > I would like to reframe this question: > > When should we expect a Debian maintainer to put in effort for use > cases, software designs, hardware platforms, etc., that they don't > personally care about ? I have an answer to this: > > So long as

Re: Q to all candidates: Universal Operating System

2019-03-20 Thread Sam Hartman
I'm finding it really hard to frame answers usefully in terms of the questions you ask (and even more difficult with the alternative reframings proposed) So I'll talk for a bit about universal, and I'm sorry, but that's what you'll get at least until you ask for clarification. I think I'm more

Re: Q to all candidates: Universal Operating System

2019-03-20 Thread Joerg Jaspert
On 15347 March 1977, Ian Jackson wrote: I would like to reframe this question: When should we expect a Debian maintainer to put in effort for use cases, software designs, hardware platforms, etc., that they don't personally care about ? I have an answer to this: So long as most of the work is

Re: Q to all candidates: Universal Operating System

2019-03-20 Thread Joerg Jaspert
On 15347 March 1977, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: 1) So, if you were asked to write a Social Contract paragraph about our universality, defining/outlining both what we aim for, and also maybe some limits to that quest for universality, what would it be? I wouldn't be the one to write such a

Re: Q to all candidates: Universal Operating System

2019-03-20 Thread Joerg Jaspert
On 15347 March 1977, Jose Miguel Parrella wrote: To add to this question: Do candidates think Debian "competes" for "share"/"mindshare" of users and contributors in the "Linux distro" category? Whenever I get asked (especially at events) "I'm a new linux user, do you recommend Debian" or

Re: Q to all candidates: Universal Operating System

2019-03-20 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* Jose Miguel Parrella [2019-03-20 07:48]: > Do candidates think Debian "competes" for "share"/"mindshare" of users > and contributors in the "Linux distro" category? Yes, absolutely. I don't want to bring a Brexit analogy, but everything is connected. A happy Debian user will recommend Debian

Re: Q to all candidates: Universal Operating System

2019-03-20 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* Ian Jackson [2019-03-20 13:35]: > So long as most of the work is being done by those who are interested > in the use case, maintainers (and anyone else with a gatekeeper role) > should do their bit (by carrying patches, mentioning alternative > dependencies, advising about debugging, or

Re: Q to all candidates: Universal Operating System

2019-03-20 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* Lucas Nussbaum [2019-03-20 10:29]: > 1) So, if you were asked to write a Social Contract paragraph about our > universality, defining/outlining both what we aim for, and also maybe > some limits to that quest for universality, what would it be? I don't have a paragraph. But I think it's

Re: Q to all candidates: Universal Operating System

2019-03-20 Thread Jose Miguel Parrella
On 3/20/19 2:29 AM, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > 2) More specifically, if you believe that we should not aim for being > fully universal, *how* (in terms of decision-making processes) do you > think that we should draw a line about what's acceptable, for > example to decide how to cater to the needs of

Re: Q to all candidates: Universal Operating System

2019-03-20 Thread Ian Jackson
In article <20190320092906.j5u47e6a3kjo3...@xanadu.blop.info>, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > An unofficial motto for Debian (unofficial because it is not part of our > foundation documents) is "the universal Operating System". ... > 1) So, if you were asked to write a Social Contract paragraph about