On Fri, Mar 22, 2019 at 2:31 PM Andreas Tille wrote:
> Hi Michael,
>
> On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 10:43:06PM +0100, Michael Stapelberg wrote:
> > The rsync discussion happened in private mail, so there’s no paper trail
> of
> > that, sorry.
> >
> > I did supply a patch, as described in the article,
Hi Michael,
On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 10:43:06PM +0100, Michael Stapelberg wrote:
> The rsync discussion happened in private mail, so there’s no paper trail of
> that, sorry.
>
> I did supply a patch, as described in the article, and the maintainer
> refused it.
BTW, this is a good example that
Hi Jonathan,
[sorry for frequently breaking the thread - I'm answering to web-archive]
On Wed, 20 Mar 2019 Jonathan Dowland wrote:
> Imagine you had a team that,
> within the team, had standardised on (say) SVN and cdbs. Whenever that
> team picked up a new package, they then used SVN and cdbs
Hello,
On Thu 21 Mar 2019 at 05:29PM +01, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
> On 15348 March 1977, Sean Whitton wrote:
>
>> I won't write a long reply because it's not that important to the DPL
>> election, but I did want to note that `dgit push-source` has answers for
>> everything you've listed. I'd
On 15348 March 1977, Sean Whitton wrote:
I won't write a long reply because it's not that important to the DPL
election, but I did want to note that `dgit push-source` has answers for
everything you've listed. I'd encourage you to take a(nother) look!
Do those answers only apply if you still
Hello,
On Thu 21 Mar 2019 at 09:02AM +0100, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
> Ideally you get an upload by a simple git push.
`dgit push-source` is very nearly a simple git push. Your laptop FTPs
stuff in the background, but that's transparent to the user.
> Now we want to control a bit WHEN it uploads.
Hey Andreas
On 2019/03/21 09:38, Andreas Tille wrote:
>> I've recently adopted packages with worse make files than that and
>> successfully converting them wasn't too hard.
>
> I think the point of the writer which is perfectly in line with mine is
> not whether the file itself is good or bad.
On 15347 March 1977, Sean Whitton wrote:
I would actually like if we end up with a "git push turns into an
upload". Which would need some central $thing for it to make it so. Not
sure thats salsa. Or something seperately (but maybe together with it).
We already have something that is quite
On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 11:13:58PM +0200, Jonathan Carter wrote:
> I'm sorry if that's not the answer you were looking for, but that's how
> I generally feel about it.
I wasn't looking for specific answers. I was just interested in your
opinion. ;-)
There are different kind of texts in this
* Andreas Tille [2019-03-20 22:07]:
> > I think was thinking the Debian Developer's Reference would be the
> > appropriate place.
> >
> > I also like the term "Debian Development Policy" fwiw.
>
> That's the point: For me a reference is a set of suggestions that might
> be helpful or not. A
Sean Whitton writes ("Re: Questions about "Winding down my Debian
involvement""):
> On Wed 20 Mar 2019 at 04:17PM +01, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
> > I would actually like if we end up with a "git push turns into an
> > upload". Which would need some cent
Hello,
On Wed 20 Mar 2019 at 04:17PM +01, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
> I would actually like if we end up with a "git push turns into an
> upload". Which would need some central $thing for it to make it so. Not
> sure thats salsa. Or something seperately (but maybe together with it).
We already have
On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 04:51:18PM +0100, Andreas Tille wrote:
Hi Joerg,
On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 04:17:51PM +0100, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
OTOH we need to stay open for enhancing things. So while I am a fan of
"dh for everyone, throw away all the hand crafted stuff", it should not
make it
The rsync discussion happened in private mail, so there’s no paper trail of
that, sorry.
I did supply a patch, as described in the article, and the maintainer
refused it.
On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 10:07 PM Andreas Tille wrote:
> On Wed, 20 Mar 2019 Martin Michlmayr wrote:
> > (I haven't looked
Hi Andreas
On 2019/03/20 11:22, Andreas Tille wrote:
> Recently I've read the article "Winding down my Debian involvement" from
> Michael Stapelberg[1]. I consider that article an interesting reading and
> I would love to hear the opinion of the candidates about it.
I've seen lots of people
On Wed, 20 Mar 2019 Martin Michlmayr wrote:
> (I haven't looked at rsync and this is a general reply.)
>
> First, find out *why* it's non-standard. Mabye there are good
> technical reasons. If so, solutions can be found (e.g. improvements
> to debhelper). Maybe it's a case of "it works" and
* Andreas Tille [2019-03-20 17:18]:
> On Wed, 20 Mar 2019 Martin Michlmayr wrote:
> > At the very least, we should find out why people don't use standard
> > tooling like debhelper, improve these tools and nudge people towards
> > them.
>
> How would you approach this nudging?
(I haven't looked
On Wed, 20 Mar 2019 Martin Michlmayr wrote:
> At the very least, we should find out why people don't use standard
> tooling like debhelper, improve these tools and nudge people towards
> them.
How would you approach this nudging?
> We should definitely recommend it. The question is whether we
Hi Joerg,
On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 04:17:51PM +0100, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
> More unification
> in central parts, with the biggest part being packaging, is better.
That's actually my point.
> OTOH we need to stay open for enhancing things. So while I am a fan of
> "dh for everyone, throw away all
* Andreas Tille [2019-03-20 10:22]:
> 1. I followed the hint to rsync checked out the source package have
> read the 6k d/rules of it. In line with the request for modernisation
> I wonder whether the candidates see any chance to convince
> maintainers to stick to some standard
On 15347 March 1977, Andreas Tille wrote:
Recently I've read the article "Winding down my Debian involvement" from
Michael Stapelberg[1]. I consider that article an interesting reading and
I would love to hear the opinion of the candidates about it.
I read it and it influenced parts of my
Hi Sam,
thanks a lot for your fast reply.
On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 06:17:00AM -0400, Sam Hartman wrote:
> I have read it as well.
(I forgot to mention that Martin has obviously read it since it was
even linked in his platform. :-) )
> ...
> I am disappointed when people leave bitter and
> "Andreas" == Andreas Tille writes:
Andreas> Hi to all brave candidates, thanks to you all to volunteer
Andreas> for the DPL job. I wish you all good luck for the
Andreas> elections and the future DPL my best wishes.
Andreas> Recently I've read the article "Winding down my
Hi to all brave candidates,
thanks to you all to volunteer for the DPL job. I wish you all good luck
for the elections and the future DPL my best wishes.
Recently I've read the article "Winding down my Debian involvement" from
Michael Stapelberg[1]. I consider that article an interesting
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