Re: Social Contract GR's Affect on sarge

2004-05-04 Thread Dale E Martin
. Take care, Dale -- Dale E. Martin, Clifton Labs, Inc. Senior Computer Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cliftonlabs.com pgp key available signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: [Proposal] Revised Social Contract

2004-01-13 Thread Dale E Martin
However, if that's not clear to people, the proper place to address that question would be in the DFSG. That's a very good point, agreed. Dale -- Dale E. Martin, Clifton Labs, Inc. Senior Computer Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cliftonlabs.com pgp key available signature.asc

Re: [Proposal] Revised Social Contract

2004-01-13 Thread Dale E Martin
However, if that's not clear to people, the proper place to address that question would be in the DFSG. That's a very good point, agreed. Dale -- Dale E. Martin, Clifton Labs, Inc. Senior Computer Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cliftonlabs.com pgp key available signature.asc

a different kind of proposal on the non-free issue

2004-01-10 Thread Dale E Martin
that are not common everyday vocabulary for proles such as myself. If you think that is fun or worthwhile, it is your perogative to focus the discussion that way. Personally, I'd like to find a solution to this issue that everyone can live with and move on. Take care, Dale -- Dale E. Martin

a different kind of proposal on the non-free issue

2004-01-10 Thread Dale E Martin
that are not common everyday vocabulary for proles such as myself. If you think that is fun or worthwhile, it is your perogative to focus the discussion that way. Personally, I'd like to find a solution to this issue that everyone can live with and move on. Take care, Dale -- Dale E. Martin

Re: Statistics on non-free usage

2004-01-08 Thread Dale E Martin
, backport collections, etc. On my machines there is a fair amount of that kind of stuff. Take care, Dale -- Dale E. Martin, Clifton Labs, Inc. Senior Computer Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cliftonlabs.com pgp key available signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Statistics on non-free usage

2004-01-08 Thread Dale E Martin
, backport collections, etc. On my machines there is a fair amount of that kind of stuff. Take care, Dale -- Dale E. Martin, Clifton Labs, Inc. Senior Computer Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cliftonlabs.com pgp key available signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Another Non-Free Proposal

2004-01-07 Thread Dale E Martin
, and until someone cares enough to create a parallel nonfree.org and work out all of the details, the status quo will remain. The irony is that it's probably going to have to be someone who is very pro-removal of nonfree who does it. Take care, Dale -- Dale E. Martin, Clifton Labs, Inc. Senior

Re: Another Non-Free Proposal

2004-01-07 Thread Dale E Martin
, and until someone cares enough to create a parallel nonfree.org and work out all of the details, the status quo will remain. The irony is that it's probably going to have to be someone who is very pro-removal of nonfree who does it. Take care, Dale -- Dale E. Martin, Clifton Labs, Inc. Senior

Re: Another Non-Free Proposal

2004-01-06 Thread Dale E Martin
but, i guess that doesn't matter to you, because it's not you that will be suffering the annoyance or the PITA. If you == Dale E Martin, you guess wrong. If it didn't matter to me, I would not be engaged in this discussion at all. I'm trying to understand the cost/benefit since one day

Re: Another Non-Free Proposal

2004-01-06 Thread Dale E Martin
it getting worse if we decide to drop non-free completely. Spell it out for me, I'm not following why it would get worse. Sorry if I'm being dense. Thanks, Dale -- Dale E. Martin, Clifton Labs, Inc. Senior Computer Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cliftonlabs.com pgp key available

Re: Another Non-Free Proposal

2004-01-06 Thread Dale E Martin
but, i guess that doesn't matter to you, because it's not you that will be suffering the annoyance or the PITA. If you == Dale E Martin, you guess wrong. If it didn't matter to me, I would not be engaged in this discussion at all. I'm trying to understand the cost/benefit since one day

Re: Another Non-Free Proposal

2004-01-06 Thread Dale E Martin
it getting worse if we decide to drop non-free completely. Spell it out for me, I'm not following why it would get worse. Sorry if I'm being dense. Thanks, Dale -- Dale E. Martin, Clifton Labs, Inc. Senior Computer Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cliftonlabs.com pgp key available

Re: Another Non-Free Proposal

2004-01-06 Thread Dale E Martin
hand, I'm not volunteering so apparently I'm not allowed to say that ;-) Later, Dale -- Dale E. Martin, Clifton Labs, Inc. Senior Computer Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cliftonlabs.com pgp key available signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Another Non-Free Proposal

2004-01-05 Thread Dale E Martin
can of worms. :-) But there is one practical benefit that dropping non-free could have. Take care, Dale -- Dale E. Martin, Clifton Labs, Inc. Senior Computer Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cliftonlabs.com pgp key available signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Another Non-Free Proposal

2004-01-04 Thread Dale E Martin
. In that light, my opinion is that living by our own standards (specifically the DFSG) as a project just makes sense. My $0.02, Dale -- Dale E. Martin, Clifton Labs, Inc. Senior Computer Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cliftonlabs.com pgp key available signature.asc Description: Digital

Re: Questions to all candidates

2003-02-28 Thread Dale E Martin
of infrastructure already that could be used to infer some things about users.) Take care, Dale -- Dale E. Martin, Clifton Labs, Inc. Senior Computer Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cliftonlabs.com pgp key available pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Questions to all candidates

2003-02-28 Thread Dale E Martin
of infrastructure already that could be used to infer some things about users.) Take care, Dale -- Dale E. Martin, Clifton Labs, Inc. Senior Computer Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cliftonlabs.com pgp key available pgpOTdErLzkMu.pgp Description: PGP signature

Question to the candidates about Debian and government

2002-03-05 Thread Dale E Martin
-institute.org/new_what_is.htm -- Dale E. Martin, Clifton Labs, Inc. Senior Computer Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cliftonlabs.com pgp key available msg01421/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Question restated

2002-03-05 Thread Dale E Martin
, and we need to address some things. The statements you've made are actually the kind of reassurance that I was looking for. Later, Dale -- Dale E. Martin, Clifton Labs, Inc. Senior Computer Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cliftonlabs.com pgp key available pgpjX9efScxta.pgp

Question to the candidates about Debian and government

2002-03-05 Thread Dale E Martin
-institute.org/new_what_is.htm -- Dale E. Martin, Clifton Labs, Inc. Senior Computer Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cliftonlabs.com pgp key available pgpbxtJtL6R3l.pgp Description: PGP signature

Question restated

2002-03-04 Thread Dale E Martin
if the statement made was justified or not - I don't really want to see the DPL making such comments in public forums. Later, Dale -- Dale E. Martin, Clifton Labs, Inc. Senior Computer Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cliftonlabs.com pgp key available msg01388/pgp0.pgp Description

Question restated

2002-03-04 Thread Dale E Martin
if the statement made was justified or not - I don't really want to see the DPL making such comments in public forums. Later, Dale -- Dale E. Martin, Clifton Labs, Inc. Senior Computer Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cliftonlabs.com pgp key available pgpoR71P6cgLx.pgp Description: PGP

Re: And the winner is...

2001-03-29 Thread Dale E Martin
Argh! Folks, I misread the constitution. Shoot me, now. The cabal rewrote your copy temporarily on your hard drive, and now they've got the information they need! ;-) Later, Dale -- Dale E. Martin, Clifton Labs, Inc. Senior Computer Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http

Re: And the winner is...

2001-03-29 Thread Dale E Martin
Argh! Folks, I misread the constitution. Shoot me, now. The cabal rewrote your copy temporarily on your hard drive, and now they've got the information they need! ;-) Later, Dale -- Dale E. Martin, Clifton Labs, Inc. Senior Computer Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http

Re: Some questions for the DPL candidates

2001-03-08 Thread Dale E Martin
re support for them. There are also plugins for most major players (including WinAmp)... Later, Dale -- Dale E. Martin, Clifton Labs, Inc. Senior Computer Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cliftonlabs.com pgp key available PGP signature

Re: Some questions for the DPL candidates

2001-03-08 Thread Dale E Martin
for them. There are also plugins for most major players (including WinAmp)... Later, Dale -- Dale E. Martin, Clifton Labs, Inc. Senior Computer Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cliftonlabs.com pgp key available pgpkQMzLypOhW.pgp Description: PGP signature