Re: Debian Maintainers GR Proposal - Use Cases

2007-06-30 Thread Pierre Habouzit
On Fri, Jun 29, 2007 at 08:25:56PM +, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: On 28/06/07 at 05:49 +, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: Yes, please sent it, I'll publish it somewhere. If you are not too ashamed of your scripts, I'd like to see them as well, if you don't mind. Hi, Thanks to Felipe, the

Re: Debian Maintainers GR Proposal - Use Cases

2007-06-30 Thread Joey Schulze
Pierre Habouzit wrote: On 28/06/07 at 05:49 +, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: Yes, please sent it, I'll publish it somewhere. If you are not too ashamed of your scripts, I'd like to see them as well, if you don't mind. Hi, Thanks to Felipe, the lists of possible candidates are now

Re: Debian Maintainers GR Proposal - Use Cases

2007-06-30 Thread Anthony Towns
On Sat, Jun 30, 2007 at 04:30:46PM +0200, Joey Schulze wrote: Pierre Habouzit wrote: On 28/06/07 at 05:49 +, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: Thanks to Felipe, the lists of possible candidates are now public. See: * list of non-DD Maintainers or Uploaders, sorted by the number of packages:

Re: Debian Maintainers GR Proposal - Use Cases

2007-06-30 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sat, Jun 30, 2007 at 12:16:47PM +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote: On Fri, Jun 29, 2007 at 08:25:56PM +, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: On 28/06/07 at 05:49 +, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: Yes, please sent it, I'll publish it somewhere. If you are not too ashamed of your scripts, I'd like to see

Re: Debian Maintainers GR Proposal - Use Cases

2007-06-30 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On sam, 2007-06-30 at 16:30 +0200, Joey Schulze wrote: It would probably be helpful to clean the listing from those in NM. I guess I know a way to clean them :) Regards, -- Yves-Alexis -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL

Re: Debian Maintainers GR Proposal - Use Cases

2007-06-29 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 28/06/07 at 05:49 +, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: Yes, please sent it, I'll publish it somewhere. If you are not too ashamed of your scripts, I'd like to see them as well, if you don't mind. Hi, Thanks to Felipe, the lists of possible candidates are now public. See: * list of non-DD

Re: Debian Maintainers GR Proposal - Use Cases

2007-06-28 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 27/06/07 at 21:42 -0400, Felipe Sateler wrote: Lucas Nussbaum wrote: On 26/06/07 at 16:57 -0400, Felipe Sateler wrote: Anthony Towns wrote: On Tue, Jun 26, 2007 at 02:35:56PM -0400, Felipe Sateler wrote: Someone with access to the real keyrings would be able to tell you the

Re: Debian Maintainers GR Proposal - Use Cases

2007-06-27 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 26/06/07 at 16:57 -0400, Felipe Sateler wrote: Anthony Towns wrote: On Tue, Jun 26, 2007 at 02:35:56PM -0400, Felipe Sateler wrote: Someone with access to the real keyrings would be able to tell you the right number. TTBOMK, the real keyring can be obtained by ssh by DDs, at

Re: Debian Maintainers GR Proposal - Use Cases

2007-06-27 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
Hi Anthony, On Tuesday 26 June 2007 21:29, Anthony Towns wrote: On Tue, Jun 26, 2007 at 09:18:57AM +0200, Frank K?ster wrote: However, like Pierre, I'm not convinced that the numbers of actually interested people is large. FWIW, I'm happy to put the work into this even if not many people

Re: Debian Maintainers GR Proposal - Use Cases

2007-06-27 Thread Anthony Towns
On Mon, Jun 25, 2007 at 10:58:13PM +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote: Notes: package should generally be co-maintained by sponsor and non-DD maintainer, with the non-DD maintainer doing most of the work If you restrict this use case to that specific case, then you won't have a lot of

Re: Debian Maintainers GR Proposal - Use Cases

2007-06-27 Thread Anthony Towns
On Wed, Jun 27, 2007 at 11:17:44AM +0200, Thijs Kinkhorst wrote: On Tuesday 26 June 2007 21:29, Anthony Towns wrote: On Tue, Jun 26, 2007 at 09:18:57AM +0200, Frank K?ster wrote: However, like Pierre, I'm not convinced that the numbers of actually interested people is large. FWIW, I'm

Re: Debian Maintainers GR Proposal - Use Cases

2007-06-27 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Wed, 27 Jun 2007, Anthony Towns wrote: On Wed, Jun 27, 2007 at 11:17:44AM +0200, Thijs Kinkhorst wrote: On Tuesday 26 June 2007 21:29, Anthony Towns wrote: On Tue, Jun 26, 2007 at 09:18:57AM +0200, Frank K?ster wrote: However, like Pierre, I'm not convinced that the numbers of

Re: Debian Maintainers GR Proposal - Use Cases

2007-06-27 Thread Pierre Habouzit
On Wed, Jun 27, 2007 at 12:03:36PM +0100, Anthony Towns wrote: On Mon, Jun 25, 2007 at 10:58:13PM +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote: Notes: package should generally be co-maintained by sponsor and non-DD maintainer, with the non-DD maintainer doing most of the work If you restrict this use

Re: Debian Maintainers GR Proposal - Use Cases

2007-06-26 Thread Frank Küster
Anthony Towns [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: == Upstream Maintainers == [...] Authorised by: Existing maintainer Notes: package should be co-maintained by maintainer and upstream, upstream generally to be expected to be uploading code changes rather than packaging changes I'm not sure I

Re: Debian Maintainers GR Proposal - Use Cases

2007-06-26 Thread cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis)
On Monday 25 June 2007, Anthony Towns wrote: == Sponsored Maintainers = For packages that're maintained by non-DDs on an ongoing basis via sponsored uploads, DM status provides the sponsor with the opportunity to change the upload priveleges from default-deny to default-allow once they

Re: Debian Maintainers GR Proposal - Use Cases

2007-06-26 Thread MJ Ray
Pierre Habouzit [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] == N-M Delays This one suck, because NM delays are mostly fixeable, and DM will just make them not painful at all for DD, depriving the system to be fixed. This is exactly the use case I fear. That's why I'd like some

Re: Debian Maintainers GR Proposal - Use Cases

2007-06-26 Thread Anthony Towns
On Tue, Jun 26, 2007 at 10:13:31AM +0200, cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis) wrote: Do we have any numbers on how many non-DD maintainers we have? I'm part of that group, but how large a group is this? There are about 2100 unique email address in the Maintainer: and Uploaders: field in the unstable

Re: Debian Maintainers GR Proposal - Use Cases

2007-06-26 Thread Reinhard Tartler
Anthony Towns [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Thu, Jun 21, 2007 at 02:50:59PM +0100, Anthony Towns wrote: So here's a proposal for the Debian Maintainers idea that's been floating around for some time now [...] I've used terms like initial policy quite a bit -- [...] Shortly before leaving

Re: Debian Maintainers GR Proposal - Use Cases

2007-06-26 Thread Alexander Schmehl
Hi! * Anthony Towns [EMAIL PROTECTED] [070626 13:51]: There are about 2100 unique email address in the Maintainer: and Uploaders: field in the unstable Sources files. That counts mailing lists and potentially multiple alternate addresses for DDs as well as non-DD maintainers of course. I

Re: Debian Maintainers GR Proposal - Use Cases

2007-06-26 Thread Felipe Sateler
cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis) wrote: Do we have any numbers on how many non-DD maintainers we have? I'm part of that group, but how large a group is this? A very long one-liner[1] gets me 992 in the main unstable archive. Of course the number is different since the debian-keyring in the unstable

Re: Debian Maintainers GR Proposal - Use Cases

2007-06-26 Thread Anthony Towns
On Tue, Jun 26, 2007 at 02:35:56PM -0400, Felipe Sateler wrote: Someone with access to the real keyrings would be able to tell you the right number. TTBOMK, the real keyring can be obtained by ssh by DDs, at merkel:/srv/keyring.debian.org/keyrings/debian-keyring.gpg and via anonymous

Re: Debian Maintainers GR Proposal - Use Cases

2007-06-26 Thread Anthony Towns
On Tue, Jun 26, 2007 at 09:18:57AM +0200, Frank K?ster wrote: However, like Pierre, I'm not convinced that the numbers of actually interested people is large. FWIW, I'm happy to put the work into this even if not many people end up using it. Cheers, aj signature.asc Description: Digital

Re: Debian Maintainers GR Proposal - Use Cases

2007-06-26 Thread Felipe Sateler
Anthony Towns wrote: On Tue, Jun 26, 2007 at 02:35:56PM -0400, Felipe Sateler wrote: Someone with access to the real keyrings would be able to tell you the right number. TTBOMK, the real keyring can be obtained by ssh by DDs, at merkel:/srv/keyring.debian.org/keyrings/debian-keyring.gpg

Re: Debian Maintainers GR Proposal - Use Cases

2007-06-26 Thread Paul Cager
On Tue, Jun 26, 2007 at 09:18:57AM +0200, Frank K?ster wrote: However, like Pierre, I'm not convinced that the numbers of actually interested people is large. I suspect one reason that this thread hasn't resulted in many people expressing an interest is that non-DDs tend not to read

Re: Debian Maintainers GR Proposal - Use Cases

2007-06-26 Thread Vincent Bernat
OoO En cette nuit nuageuse du mercredi 27 juin 2007, vers 01:06, Paul Cager [EMAIL PROTECTED] disait: I'm a fairly active (non-DD) member of the Java Packaging team, and I also maintain a couple of non-Java packages. Although I'm starting to become reasonably skilled at Java packaging, I'm

Re: Debian Maintainers GR Proposal - Use Cases

2007-06-25 Thread Anthony Towns
On Thu, Jun 21, 2007 at 02:50:59PM +0100, Anthony Towns wrote: So here's a proposal for the Debian Maintainers idea that's been floating around for some time now [...] I've used terms like initial policy quite a bit -- [...] Shortly before leaving DebConf someone (whose name I've forgotten,

Re: Debian Maintainers GR Proposal - Use Cases

2007-06-25 Thread Sam Hocevar
On Mon, Jun 25, 2007, Anthony Towns wrote: Shortly before leaving DebConf someone (whose name I've forgotten, sadly) suggested that some sample use cases for the DM process might be useful. Here's some that come to my mind: Another use case that I'd like to mention is the Ubuntu maintainer

Re: Debian Maintainers GR Proposal - Use Cases

2007-06-25 Thread Pierre Habouzit
On Mon, Jun 25, 2007 at 07:45:20PM +0100, Anthony Towns wrote: == N-M queue = Authorised by: AM This one makes sense. I'd also add the sponsor in the people giving the ACK. == Sponsored Maintainers = Authorised by: Sponsor Notes: package should generally be