, to ask AM and NM if they think that they are going to be
fast or slow at answering, and assign couples based on that, to avoid
the case where a fast AM gets stuck with a slow NM.
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teams automatically add their members to the Uploaders:
field. So you could you do the same analysis, but only considering the
Maintainer field, not the Uploaders field?
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On 27/06/07 at 21:42 -0400, Felipe Sateler wrote:
Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
On 26/06/07 at 16:57 -0400, Felipe Sateler wrote:
Anthony Towns wrote:
On Tue, Jun 26, 2007 at 02:35:56PM -0400, Felipe Sateler wrote:
Someone with access to the real keyrings would be
able to tell you
to upload, just to warn them.
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On 28/06/07 at 05:49 +, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
Yes, please sent it, I'll publish it somewhere.
If you are not too ashamed of your scripts, I'd like to see them as
well, if you don't mind.
Hi,
Thanks to Felipe, the lists of possible candidates are now public. See:
* list of non-DD
of people
willing to work together as SC), which would allow to elect a SC which
is actually representative for Debian. It's probably better than the
first solution, as the first solution isn't clone-proof: we could have
elected n Sams!! ;)
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despite your lack
of free time?
The same question can be asked as will you be our DPL team candidate,
or are we still looking for someone to fill that role?
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with the license
change? Later, you suggested shortening that period. Is this legally
possible?
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Lucas Nussbaum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...]
It seems to me that, for this issue to be solved, we first need a
clear consensus on debian-www@ about:
- the plan we are going to follow
I believe we need legal advice on the validity of the various
in their two-penn'orth in a GR. Not great, but one
of the few resolution tools the project has.
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Secondly, delegation should make X's task clear to both this project
and SPI in a robust way and seemed the most obvious to me. How does
the constitution
of success?
What will you do if constructive criticism proves unsuccessful again?
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possible, this should be done by consulting the team first.
-
(suggestions of improvements are welcomed for the draft)
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On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 08:24:25PM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
Debian developers acknowledge the following:
* The Debian Project infrastructure is run by people who volunteer their
time and knowledge in a good-faith effort to help
that changing the procedures is out of the scope of the DAM
delegation?
Also, there's the hipothetical problem that Joerg could just re-send his
mail to avoid your proposed GR.
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is reached ;
(B) or a vote decides how we want to change our procedures.
But until Joerg does, we need this GR, unfortunately.
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to be decided after an healthy, public, discussion, and probably
also a vote (because we are not going to agree on which proposal is the
best one).
Should we add something to the GR to address this problem? Or simply
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for this immediate procedural
vote.
5 days sounds like a pretty strange definition of immediate ;)
Also, our constitution says:
If the Project Leader (or the Delegate) withdraws the original
decision, the vote becomes moot, and is no longer conducted.
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(not the case neither for Joerg's proposal, nor for Lars' or
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(B) we have a vote to decide which proposal we want.
As long as Joerg doesn't agree with that, I don't see why we should drop
the immediate vote or the GR itself.
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On 28/10/08 at 13:07 +0100, Peter Palfrader wrote:
On Tue, 28 Oct 2008, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
Do you propose to drop the immediate vote, but keep the fact the
decision is put on hold according to 4.2.2.2, until the final vote on
this GR ?
That is exactly what he proposed in a different
On 28/10/08 at 14:12 +0100, Martin Wuertele wrote:
* Lucas Nussbaum [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-10-28 14:03]:
This is very different from saying that nothing will happen because the
decision is on hold under 4.2.2.2. If Joerg suddenly got a lot of free
time, he could implement all the changes
way out. If we can't, well, we will have to continue with
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groups), and by trying to reach consensus by participating in the
discussion.
Now, let's hope that we can have an healthy discussion about this
topic, both on Joerg's and the other proposals (and preferably after
the release).
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On Fri, 31 Oct 2008, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
So, we right now have an option that effectively stops the proposal as
it is at present.
I wonder if we should haven an option on the ballot that asks the DAM to
basically go forward
of the statements made in the GR.
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go ahead).
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(like you did in vote
003)? The alternate proposals don't intend to amend the initial
proposal, but to replace it, so it seems misleading to list them as
amendements.
Or am I missing something?
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Lucas Nussbaum lu...@lucas-nussbaum.net writes:
Thank you for the detailed analysis.
You missed one point:
Excluding votes where more than one
option were ranked first, and counting only first choices, we get the
following results
seconders to add a
one-sentence summary of the reasons why they seconded something. For
example, saying I don't support that option, but I think that it should
be on the ballot. That rationale could be displayed on the vote page.
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position for bounties offered as part of the Google
Summer of Code, for example?
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that they impose that those who get the job are students, and that they
reserve the right to reject specific projects/students).
What would be your position?
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having a Keep it
like it is, no discusssion is needed, I would accept such an amendment
too. (Not that I think its neccessary, for me FD means that, but still).
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This one time, at band camp, Lucas Nussbaum said:
Could you propose an amendement that explicitely says that the current
rules don't need to be changed (different from FD), and another one that
proposes a compromise by requiring 8 or 10
to improve imperfect resolutions, or
to add valuable options to a ballot.
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Dear Steve and Luk,
So, you are running in tandem. How do you plan to organize the sharing
of the DPL workload?
Will Steve be The DPL, with Luk only helping on some matters? Or will it
be more like 50/50? For example, who will receive lea...@debian.org?
Luk, you are already a very busy DD, with
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Hi,
I am hereby proposing the amendment below to the general resolution
entitled Enhance requirements for General resolutions.
PROPOSAL START
=
General Resolutions
to be done outside the Debian
infrastructure.
Having such a Debian package would be really useful for that.
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you see the release happening?
(I'm fully aware that the DPL is not in a position to take many actions
regarding the release. However, similar questions are likely to be asked
during post-election interviews, so we would better know how you will
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is not restricted; every DD is able to access the database.
Also, the public part (as in: not the security builds, for example) is
imported into UDD (wannabuild table).
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Hi,
While I support welcoming non-packaging contributors as project members,
I am concerned that we are creating the concept of second-class DDs (or
at least, that it will be communicated like that).
I see two different ways to avoid that:
[A] Avoid giving DDs without upload rights any special
On 15/09/10 at 12:08 +0900, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
Naming (raised by at least Luca and Lars [8,9])
==
Ah, what a mess!
Until a few minutes before posting the GR proposal, the text contained a
s/Debian Members/non-uploading Debian Developers/ and before that
On 15/09/10 at 10:22 +0200, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
I, using my FTPMaster hat, do care a lot that we do not get
$whateveritsname with upload rights that never ever had to show at least
the basic understanding of packaging work. Looking at all the errors
existing Developers do, even longstanding
On 15/09/10 at 21:00 +0900, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
Attached you can find a tentative wording of a proposal which remove the
term Debian Contributors, pretty similar to the version I had before
posting (shame on me for changing that!), but maybe a bit better in that
it doesn't the horrible
On 14/09/10 at 18:56 +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
Hi,
While I support welcoming non-packaging contributors as project members,
I am concerned that we are creating the concept of second-class DDs (or
at least, that it will be communicated like that).
I see two different ways to avoid
On 15/09/10 at 16:49 +0200, Christoph Berg wrote:
Re: Lucas Nussbaum 2010-09-15 20100915141740.ga21...@xanadu.blop.info
* Establish procedures to evaluate and accept contributors of
non-packaging work as Debian Developers.
Additionally, the Debian project acknowledges that the current
On 05/03/11 at 08:08 +, Lars Wirzenius wrote:
On la, 2011-03-05 at 08:58 +0100, Sean Finney wrote:
I nominate Stefano Zacchiroli.
I of course understand if he wants to take a break after the last year,
but couldn't pass up the chance to be the first to make the
(re-)nomination :)
Hi,
Let me quote your platform for context:
2.3.1 DPL practicing
If elected again, the next term will be my last term as DPL, because I
have different plans for my long term Debian future. Having that in
mind, I will work since the very beginning of the term to ensure a
smooth transition
Hi,
On 03/05/12 at 00:32 +0200, Francesca Ciceri wrote:
It doesn't matter how you identify yourself or how others perceive you:
we welcome you. We welcome contributions from everyone as long as they
interact constructively with our community.
I'm not a big fan of this formulation. Maybe it
I hereby nominate myself for the forthcoming DPL election.
Lucas
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Hi,
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Why do you think you are a good candidate for the next DPL term?
Eh, that's a difficult question. Also, I suspect you mean be a good
DPL and not be a good candidate, right? Anyway, I will answer about
be a good DPL.
That's a difficult
On 10/03/13 at 17:34 +0200, Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote:
Hi,
I'd like to have each DPL candidate briefly discuss the challenges of
getting new people to Debian.
people is not very specific (users? contributors? DDs?), but maybe
it's intentionally vague.
Actually, I think that it is a process
Hi,
On 10/03/13 at 17:56 -0400, Paul Tagliamonte wrote:
I'd ask the DPL candidates to speak a bit about how they intend to
represent Debian externally -- both in terms out downstream outreach, as
well as upstream (or even side-stream) relations.
What sort of plans do you have to collaborate
In your opinion, what are the fundamental reasons the release freeze is so
long, and so painful, and what do you propose to do, as DPL, to fix them?
The release process is hard to grasp. The most visible side of it is the
number of RC bugs (which I contributed to increase :p) As a DPL, I will
Hi,
On 11/03/13 at 08:30 +, Sune Vuorela wrote:
Hi candidates
So, over the last years I have seen a Debian where it among the people
is much more important to avoid to fail than trying to do awesome stuff.
But doing awesome stuff is where the fun is, and also where the
possibility to
On 11/03/13 at 21:49 +0800, Paul Wise wrote:
On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 9:19 PM, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
to make fixing RC bugs more rewarding. For example, in the Debian Project
News, we could list the most efficient RC bug squashers.
Just discussed this in #debian-publicity, if you can
Hi,
On 10/03/13 at 22:32 -0600, Gunnar Wolf wrote:
Timo Juhani Lindfors dijo [Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 05:34:58PM +0200]:
Hi,
I'd like to have each DPL candidate briefly discuss the challenges of
getting new people to Debian.
Hi,
Riding on Timo Juhani's question (and not yet having
Hi Moray,
In your platform, you give that specific idea:
Besides the great work of debian-mentors/mentors.debian.net, it might
be good to provide more ways to learn about how to contribute to
Debian. One possibility would be to encourage teams to take interns,
perhaps for a summer
On 11/03/13 at 19:28 +0300, Moray Allan wrote:
On 2013-03-11 18:42, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
In your platform, you give that specific idea:
I am not sure how it would differ from GSoC? What different
problem will
this solve?
Apart from the obvious differences of control etc., GSoC
On 11/03/13 at 20:07 +0300, Moray Allan wrote:
On 2013-03-11 19:44, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
I see. Interesting. But in
https://lists.debian.org/debian-science/2013/03/msg00012.html, the
no
packaging work rule seems to come from the Debian GSoC team, and at
least Sylvestre seems open
On 11/03/13 at 20:14 +0100, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
We can try to second-guess Google's motivations for excluding
documentation to determine if it also applies to packaging, or we can
just ask, which I have done:
https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=enfromgroups=#!topic/google-summer-of-code
On 11/03/13 at 22:41 +0300, Moray Allan wrote:
On 2013-03-11 22:14, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
We can try to second-guess Google's motivations for excluding
documentation to determine if it also applies to packaging, or we can
just ask, which I have done:
https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl
On 11/03/13 at 21:56 +0100, Ana Guerrero wrote:
[Some sort-of thread hijacking]
Hi folks,
I see this thread going nowhere and it's a pity because discussing new
ways to integrate contributors in Debian is a topic worth discussing.
I have been involved in GSoC in the editions 2011 and
On 12/03/13 at 14:14 +0100, Ana Guerrero wrote:
Hi Russ,
On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 03:03:42PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
Ana Guerrero a...@debian.org writes:
- For some DDs in previous years, this seemed to be a way to have students
doing stuff from their TODO lists...
Just a
On 12/03/13 at 13:18 +0100, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
What I can think about:
Forgot something:
schools/seminars
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Hi,
On 12/03/13 at 00:54 +0100, Martin Zobel-Helas wrote:
Hi,
in the past i heared several ideas about a Debian Project Leader board
similar to the SPI board.
So lets imagine the project would have to vote for several members of
this sort of board, with every member being on-board for
Hi,
On 12/03/13 at 18:31 +0100, Arno Töll wrote:
Hi,
while reading your platforms I noticed that you're rather vague on your
future Debian commitment for that one of you ending as DPL for real.
Moray mostly answered my question already, but if he wants to extend
he's surely invited to
On 12/03/13 at 18:37 +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
Hello Lucas,
I've read your platform and I share your 5-years goals and I agree
on most of the suggested intermediary goals to bring us closer to
the long term goals.
That said, it's not clear to me how you plan to achieve them. Being
Hi,
On 12/03/13 at 11:35 -0600, Gunnar Wolf wrote:
I'm writing this prompted by some of the lines written by Gergely and
Moray in the about a DPL board thread.
One of the difficulties I perceive we have seen over the years is the
time it takes to transfer the know-how and work rhythm from
Hi,
[ Your question is similar in some ways to a question asked earlier by
Lars Wirzenius. See my answer at
https://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2013/03/msg00020.html ]
On 12/03/13 at 20:17 +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
Hi,
this is a question to all candidates.
Debian's infrastructure
Hi,
On 12/03/13 at 21:56 +0100, Ana Guerrero wrote:
On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 07:50:27PM +0100, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
On 12/03/13 at 14:14 +0100, Ana Guerrero wrote:
..
This kind of mentoring let's package this new software stack (and create
a team to maintain it, when it doesn't
On 12/03/13 at 00:47 +0100, Martin Zobel-Helas wrote:
Hi,
in the past Debian had some generous donors, who donated a huge amounts
of high quality hardware on regual basis to the Debian project. For some
reasons (not to be discussed here) those sources dont exist any more.
As this hardware
On 12/03/13 at 10:43 +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
To other candidates, do you believe that we could benefit from using money
for other things than hardware and meeting/travel reimbursment? If yes,
what kind of things?
[ I replied in https://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2013/03/msg00084.html ]
On 13/03/13 at 08:03 +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 11:54:44AM +0800, Paul Wise wrote:
On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 2:55 AM, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
Ubuntu does https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek - a set of
seminars on IRC to teach Ubuntu development. I'm
On 13/03/13 at 00:57 +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
Hi,
On Tue, 12 Mar 2013, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
3) For what kind of things?
Since you are asking the question, isn't it up to you to come up with
ideas/examples? :) I find it difficult to discuss such things in the
general case
Hi,
On 12/03/13 at 12:06 +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
Hi,
my previous mail targeted the topic of using Debian's money
(20130312094330.ga30...@x230-buxy.home.ouaza.com). But the topic
of money in Debian does not have to be limited to that.
The Debian ecosystem includes many economical
On 14/03/13 at 20:13 +0100, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
Btw, in the specific example of your book, have
you considered creating a Debian package for it?
Oops, I missed http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/debian-handbook
Excellent!
Lucas
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On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 01:31:08PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
For example, I would question whether one could do the role of DPL with a
conventional full-time job in IT, at least if you want to keep any other
hobbies outside of those two
On 14/03/13 at 14:10 +, MJ Ray wrote:
Dear candidates,
How much time do you think voters should spend reading these discussions?
Dear questioners,
How much time do you think DPL candidates should spend answering those
questions? :)
More seriously, I find most of the
On 14/03/13 at 19:14 +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
Hi Paul,
On 14-03-13 17:21, Paul Tagliamonte wrote:
Hello, DPL'ers,
What work will you be doing to continue Zach's efforts to negotiate
with the FSF over Debian's status as a Free Software Distribution?
For those of us who've
Hi,
On 14/03/13 at 12:21 -0400, Paul Tagliamonte wrote:
Hello, DPL'ers,
What work will you be doing to continue Zach's efforts to negotiate with
the FSF over Debian's status as a Free Software Distribution?
Will you treat this issue as a priority? Can we expect continued open
dialogue
On 14/03/13 at 17:55 +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
Folklore goes that performing distribution-wide changes in Debian is
hard and time-consuming, due to a couple of reasons: (1) the time needed
to make a decision that affects the whole archive (this is related to
our flat structure, which
On 15/03/13 at 16:21 +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote:
This one is an easy one to answer, I hope. No trap here...
Being the DPS is for sure a very demanding job. So I would like to know
what your current activity is (what is your paid job). Please also
explain how much your activity may (or may
On 15/03/13 at 10:24 +, MJ Ray wrote:
Lucas asked
Dear questioners,
How much time do you think DPL candidates should spend answering those
questions? :)
Probably about half of the time it currently takes ;-)
More seriously, [...] Maybe we should try to have some of those
On 14/03/13 at 23:05 -0400, Michael Gilbert wrote:
On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 12:21 PM, Paul Tagliamonte wrote:
What work will you be doing to continue Zach's efforts to negotiate with
the FSF over Debian's status as a Free Software Distribution?
Will you treat this issue as a priority? Can
On 15/03/13 at 00:39 +0100, Toni Mueller wrote:
On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 12:00:48AM +0100, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
On 12/03/13 at 10:43 +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
To other candidates, do you believe that we could benefit from using money
for other things than hardware and meeting/travel
Hi,
On 15/03/13 at 19:41 +0300, Moray Allan wrote:
In my platform I suggested that we might make distribution-wide
changes quicker by more vocally authorising NMUs to help with
changeovers.
The current NMU guidelines[1] discourage fixing cosmetic issues or
changing the packaging style in an
Hi Toni,
You quoted my mail by taking only one sentence of each of my paragraphs, so my
answers look much less subtle in your email than they were in my email. ;)
On 15/03/13 at 22:46 +0100, Toni Mueller wrote:
Hi Lucas,
On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 03:43:16PM +0100, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
First
On 13/03/13 at 11:13 +, Neil McGovern wrote:
Hi all,
This may be a thinly veiled attempt to get some work out of my way
before the election, rather than after it. However, it may also be
useful for voters in determining their ballots!
Could you provide a couple of sentences (no more)
On 16/03/13 at 15:31 +0100, Serafeim Zanikolas wrote:
On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 11:21:05AM +0100, Lucas Nussbaum wrote [edited]:
But asking students to contribute to Debian during university projects is
quite
difficult (I have thought about it numerous times, but never found a
good-enough
Hi,
On 17/03/13 at 12:19 +0800, Paul Wise wrote:
Candidates,
What do you plan to work on if you are not elected?
Will not being elected de-motivate you?
Will you work on the things in your platform even if you are not
elected? Most of the things mentioned there are not DPL specific
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