##debian-offtopic (was: Debian's Freenode IRC channels)

2008-02-16 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Michael Banck [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008.01.13.0842 +1100]: It has been decided to rename the current #debian-offtopic channel to ##debian-offtopic and keep #debian-offtopic around for people being off-topic in #debian to be directed there. Is the newcomer aware of the meaning of ##,

Re: Debian's Freenode IRC channels

2008-01-13 Thread Melissa Draper
Greetings, First and foremost, I want to apologise for the tone of my original post, and how it came across. It was rather uncharacteristic of me but I should have known better than to write such a post on 3hrs sleep in the middle of a heatwave. However, I am not apologetic for raising the

Re: Debian's Freenode IRC channels

2008-01-12 Thread Vid Ayer
On Jan 12, 2008 12:34 PM, Melissa Draper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As part of my NY Resolutions, I decided it was time to get more involved in Debian, which involves hanging out in Debian channels more. Apart from rejoining the OFTC Debian channels, I also joined the Freenode ones since they

Re: Debian's Freenode IRC channels

2008-01-12 Thread Adeodato Simó
* Melissa Draper [Sat, 12 Jan 2008 18:04:16 +1100]: because D-W have had more success with the overall Debian community. Hum ho. I've always thought that this success referred, mostly, to *inside* the developer/collaborator community, and I *think* it was the (at least) initial aim for DW. I

Re: Debian's Freenode IRC channels

2008-01-12 Thread Miriam Ruiz
2008/1/12, Melissa Draper [EMAIL PROTECTED]: As an active Ubuntu-Women member, I've many times been told to come to Debian and the Debian-Women project whenever someone in Ubuntu slips up, because D-W have had more success with the overall Debian community. Quite frankly, I'm at a loss for

Re: Debian's Freenode IRC channels

2008-01-12 Thread Steve Langasek
Hi Melissa, On Sat, Jan 12, 2008 at 08:18:48PM +1100, Melissa Draper wrote: Vid Ayer wrote: On Jan 12, 2008 12:34 PM, Melissa Draper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As part of my NY Resolutions, I decided it was time to get more involved in Debian, which involves hanging out in Debian channels more.

Re: Debian's Freenode IRC channels

2008-01-12 Thread Melissa Draper
Steve Langasek wrote: Hi Melissa, On Sat, Jan 12, 2008 at 08:18:48PM +1100, Melissa Draper wrote: Vid Ayer wrote: On Jan 12, 2008 12:34 PM, Melissa Draper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As part of my NY Resolutions, I decided it was time to get more involved in Debian, which involves hanging

Re: Debian's Freenode IRC channels

2008-01-12 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Melissa Draper ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): One must be a developer or packager to be entitled to feel comfortable? Certainly not. However, as many already explained, d-w never focused on the user community. I understand that can sound as disappointing ot you and, frankly, I'd also really

Re: Debian's Freenode IRC channels

2008-01-12 Thread Michael Banck
On Sat, Jan 12, 2008 at 06:04:16PM +1100, Melissa Draper wrote: I'm primarily an Ubuntu user, but I've run Debian in various places on my home network for over a year, and what is currently my home server has been exclusively Debian for about a year now. As part of my NY Resolutions, I

Re: Debian's Freenode IRC channels

2008-01-12 Thread Erinn Clark
* Michael Banck [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008:01:12 12:15 +0100]: On Sat, Jan 12, 2008 at 02:08:16AM -0800, Erinn Clark wrote: Anyway, time passed, we changed our official servers, and a lot of users did not follow from freenode. Well, it should be said that also most of the operators decided

Re: Debian's Freenode IRC channels

2008-01-12 Thread Michael Banck
On Sat, Jan 12, 2008 at 03:34:40AM -0800, Erinn Clark wrote: * Michael Banck [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008:01:12 12:15 +0100]: On Sat, Jan 12, 2008 at 02:08:16AM -0800, Erinn Clark wrote: Anyway, time passed, we changed our official servers, and a lot of users did not follow from freenode.

Re: Debian's Freenode IRC channels

2008-01-12 Thread Margarita Manterola
On Jan 12, 2008 8:36 AM, Melissa Draper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't recall claiming that I was promised that there were no jerks. I was not promised anything to that degree. It was merely indicated to me often that Debian-Women had achieved what Ubuntu-Women had not. To me, Ubuntu-Women

Re: Debian's Freenode IRC channels

2008-01-12 Thread Vid Ayer
On Jan 12, 2008 8:25 PM, Margarita Manterola [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: After a few years of Debian-Women we have about 10 female DDs, and others in the making, and the atmosphere at most developers places is welcoming towards females. These results are what we have achieved. We changed Debian

Re: Debian's Freenode IRC channels

2008-01-12 Thread Tore Sinding Bekkedal
(It seems I have to be subscribed for my message to reach the lists. Having subscribed, I'm resending. If it is not the case, apologees for the duplicate posting.) On Jan 12, 2008 12:34 PM, Melissa Draper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: simonrvn @be $1 barbie is replyW! $1 is too HARD! let's go

Re: Debian's Freenode IRC channels

2008-01-12 Thread Tore Sinding Bekkedal
On Jan 12, 2008 12:34 PM, Melissa Draper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: simonrvn @be $1 barbie is replyW! $1 is too HARD! let's go shopping! ravenbird simonrvn: okay simonrvn w00t simonrvn @be ssh barbie ravenbird W! ssh is too HARD! let's go shopping! Are you equating making fun of Barbie

Re: Debian's Freenode IRC channels

2008-01-12 Thread Margarita Manterola
On Jan 12, 2008 5:04 AM, Melissa Draper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As part of my NY Resolutions, I decided it was time to get more involved in Debian, which involves hanging out in Debian channels more. Apart from rejoining the OFTC Debian channels, I also joined the Freenode ones since they are

Re: Debian's Freenode IRC channels

2008-01-12 Thread Mark Brown
On Sat, Jan 12, 2008 at 12:03:23PM +0100, Christian Perrier wrote: Quoting Melissa Draper ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): One must be a developer or packager to be entitled to feel comfortable? I'm not entirely convinced that projects such as d-w or ubunto-w can really change things in very wide

Re: Debian's Freenode IRC channels

2008-01-12 Thread Michael Banck
On Sat, Jan 12, 2008 at 07:51:43PM +, Benjamin A'Lee wrote: While I see your point, the fact that the channel has debian in the name suggests that the channel has something to do with the Debian Project. If I set up a website at debian-offtopic.com and filled it with sexist jokes, Nazi

Re: Debian's Freenode IRC channels

2008-01-12 Thread Pebcak
Nice use of misquoting and taking things out of context there Melissa. If you really want to be offended, and from what I've seen offending you isn't really all that hard, oops I said hard, now don't go and get offended, I suggest you slither over to Efnets #debian. Then you'll have something to

Re: Debian's Freenode IRC channels

2008-01-12 Thread Erinn Clark
* Michael Banck [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008:01:12 22:42 +0100]: It has been decided to rename the current #debian-offtopic channel to ##debian-offtopic and keep #debian-offtopic around for people being off-topic in #debian to be directed there. Thanks Michael (and everyone else involved)! --

Re: Debian's Freenode IRC channels

2008-01-12 Thread Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso
On 12/01/2008, Erinn Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008:01:12 08:29 -0600]: followed by discussion of and links to NSFW stuff. [...] Also, regarding porn in general, which you seem to have mentioned... minefield, and something I'm very

Re: Debian's Freenode IRC channels

2008-01-12 Thread Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso
Ronin, please remain calm and respectful. Melissa had at least one perfectly valid point, and perhaps others. Her valid point is that there is a channel that by its own admission is a pigsty, and it's using the Debian name in a popular IRC network. Channel moved, we get to keep our pigsty, and

Debian's Freenode IRC channels

2008-01-11 Thread Melissa Draper
Greetings, I'm primarily an Ubuntu user, but I've run Debian in various places on my home network for over a year, and what is currently my home server has been exclusively Debian for about a year now. As part of my NY Resolutions, I decided it was time to get more involved in Debian, which