The community support for
SmarterMail is much smaller (or at least quieter).
We are running one SM server for a client
and Ive posted several questions on the SM support forums and have not
received any responses at all.
Similar posts to Imail or Declude discussion
lists have always
web-based forum: I have to go there each day and spend some
minutes to find out what's going on. My 24 hours each day are short enough that
I will do that one, two or some more days but then I will left the forum until I
havea new problem. And for shure not to see if someone maybe has a
I've also posted question to their forum with little or no response (I
didn't think the questions were that obscure). There definitely seems to
be more experts in the IMail camp, or at least experts that
are willing to share.
As with new versions of IMail, I'll take the wait and see
attitude
what questions do you have regarding smartermail? or what
is your username in the forum to look for them. I try to be actively involved in
the forum -that is my way to learn about smartermail- and I will be glad to try
to help.
regards
-Luis Arango
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Guys,
Why dont all of us who own
smartermail send an email to smartertools asking them to launch a smartertools
discussion list? It will take more than one person requesting it for them to
set it up.
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Maybe you could get IPSwitch to set one up. LOL!
-Chris
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From: Dave Beckstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 11:02:14 -0600
Guys,
Why don't all of us who own smartermail send an
We have one problem with the smartermail and declude combination and I'm
wondering if perhaps the folks at Declude could work with smartertools to
resolve it.
We have Declude set up to NOT add any headers to outbound email. On inbound
email (email sent to us) we add headers such as actual
Evans Martin set up an unofficial
SmarterMail discussion list a few weeks ago. Original message below
Hey guys!
I got really tired of having to log into a web based forum
to see what is going on with SmarterMail so I created a list that I hope we can
turn into something similar to
FYI, SmarterMail is aware of this
discussion thread and I know that they would want to be aware of any issues
with technical support.
Barry
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Beckstrom
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005
12:02 PM
To:
Is there any way, and if not is some one willing to come up with a way, of
counting the number of characters in the body and if less than say 10 the
penalize x and if less than say 25 then penalize y?
John T
eServices For You
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Since a BCC line from a legit client will never appear in the header, it
makes sense then that we can filter on BCC: in the header and penalize a
good amount, correct?
John T
eServices For You
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I've definitely seen a BCC: header entry on legitimate mail, which is
then blank.
I think the big idea is that the sender MTA thought it was a good idea
to let the receiver know that a BCC was used.
Sorry, I can't remember the software or domain involved.
I'd suggest at least creating a new
Seems like a good idea to me if you seeing many messages with BCCs in the
headers. I can't recall ever seeing one on the messages I've inspected.
-Dave Doherty
Skywaves, Inc.
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From: John T (Lists) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent:
Good idea.
-d
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From: Colbeck, Andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 1:35 PM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] BCC in header
I've definitely seen a BCC: header entry on legitimate mail, which is
then blank.
I
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Subject: Update: SmarterStats 3.1.2181 Released
This email is to inform you that a new version of SmarterStats has been
released.
Version: 3.1.2181
Released: December 21, 2005
RELEASE NOTES
ADDED: Several more spider/bot definitions were added
ADDED: More
Party pooper. ;)
Actually, I would have never thought of a reason for it to be in the header,
since by nature it is not supposed to be known.
I have seen it in spam though.
John T
eServices For You
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[EMAIL
I feel the same way. I've answered several questions in their forums and tried to promote discussion where I was able.As for my own questions, I've always received answers, both from their support and from other users.I guess it depends on the nature of the forum and also a little bit of luck.
I have had decludeproc 3.0.5.22 abend on
me twice today. Is there anything I should be doing to capture information
about this? I have automatic restart enabled so it starts again but I am not
super happy with it abending.
Any hints on what (if anything) I
can/should be doing?
Is abend some kind of French word?
;)
John T
eServices For You
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From:
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Sent: Wednesday, December
21, 2005 1:13 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail]
"abend" in German means "evening".
good Abend! :-)
Markus
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John T
(Lists)Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 10:23 PMTo:
Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail]
Decludeproc abend
Is
Or if you use an E-mail client that doesn't encode your mail stores,
you can just open it up in a text reader and search for the occurrences.
I did a cursory search and found that Hotmail can display this
behavior, as well as MS SMTP (using something like CDO). It is also
possible that other
Abend is a common term used
in the world of mainframes. Its the same as aborted
or crashed. I first heard it in 1981 and used it many, many
times over the years. I dont know where the term originated from.
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It is an IBM mainframe term from long ago.
ABnormal END
Of course this is all very interesting but
it does not answer my original questions L
Goran
Jovanovic
Omega Network
Solutions
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Sent:
Any one else
ramping up for a heavy work load?
Starting tonight
and going full force on Friday afternoon, I have major projects for Friday, Saturday,
Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday. Monday the 2nd is
reserved for work on my servers. ;)
Replace 1 SQL
server
Replace 1
Derived from 'ABnormal ENDing'
George
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Beckstrom
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 4:36 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc abend
Barry,
That's good to know, but I don't think it takes a genius to figure out
what is at issue here.
The difference is "push" vs. "pull". If you expect customers to help
out in providing community support, you shouldn't expect as much
success doing a message board because that requires
I always thought it was Absent By Enforced Net Deprivation - usually
when someone hadn't posted in a while 'cause their modem died or their
parents grounded them.
It's been a long time since I heard that though.
- greg
Abend is a common term used in the world of mainframes. It's the same
abend = crash. I remember when RAM was called core, too.
Wednesday, December 21, 2005, 3:29:49 PM, Markus Gufler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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MG
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MG abend in German means evening.
MG
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MG good Abend! :-)
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John T (Lists) wrote:
Is abend
some kind of French word?
AbnormalEnding. - circa 1985 - coined with the introduction of
Microsoft products.
-Nicko
;)
John T
eServices
For You
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Hey John,
And if your married - add in Get Divorced with that schedule.
Darrell
Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for Declude And
Imail. IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, SURBL/URI
And here I thought that everyone knew that termoh well I am dating
myself
Goran Jovanovic
Omega Network Solutions
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I used to read CORE dumps and debug the operating system. I even wrote code
for the operating system (I was a systems programmer)
I don't think you're a real programmer if you don't read binary and assembly
language!!! LOL!!!
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I thought that went further back than that. I
remember hearing it a lot from mainframe types prior to Windows 1.1early
80's...
Darin.
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From: Nick
Hayer
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 4:51 PM
Subject: Re:
I guess not everyone has had the pleasure of waiting in line for hours for
a printout (batch processing mainframes) to find just a few terse lines with
ABEND error xx and no other clue as to why the job failed.
That's why ABEND sticks in one's mind for many many years if you've had to
deal
Glad to see that you at leastare
takingChristmas offto rest. Best of luck to you on your
installs and upgrades.
Darin.
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From: John T (Lists)
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 4:44 PM
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Upcoming work
A couple of things:
How to remove the mark as spam
menu items in webmail since they are meaningless when using an external spam
blocking preprocessor. The suggestion I got from support that in an
unsupported manner I could edit the aspx files, seemed partly
reasonable until I poked
Dave, do you have the same compulsion I do, that when you see a binary
string in a movie or tv, you *have* to convert it to hex, octal or decimal
to figure out if there's a joke there for you?
Andrew 8)
Andrew,
No, I guess you must have it worse then I do! *chuckleBut I do laugh at
I stick to playing records backwards so I can get direction from the
devil :)
Matt
Colbeck, Andrew wrote:
Dave, do you have the same compulsion I do, that when you see a binary string in a movie or tv, you *have* to convert it to hex, octal or decimal to figure out if there's a joke
AbnormalEnding. - circa 1985 - coined with the introduction of
Microsoft products.
Unlikely -- in the post-mainframe world as I experienced it, ABENDs
were to Novell NetWare as BSODs were to Microsoft products. Always had
to shift terminology when dealing with Windows people (back
I have started hosting a community
supported SmarterMail list if anyone is interested in joining it. Send a
message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with subscribe
SmarterMail in the BODY of the message to subscribe. I hate using
their online forum because it doesnt flow as well as a
list does.
The
Gees, I did not realize the path this
would take. Yikes.
BACK TO YOUR ORIGINAL QUESITONS!
Check the C:\ root for any declude files
that may be there.
Are there any files in the error or
repair directories? (spool\proc\error or spool\proc\repair) If so, compile all
the log lines
What Sandy said.
In my experience, the infrastructure software never failed, the only
ABENDs were from applications that our own programmers wrote.
And yes, ABEND is still in my vocabulary.
Andrew 8)
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It is a Sunday like all the rest,
reserved in advanced by an authority far higher than me.
John T
eServices For You
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From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darin Cox
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 2:12 PM
To:
Nah, she likes the pay check too much.
What little there is after all the necessities.
John T
eServices For You
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Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 1:53 PM
While I would like to think that makes me feel younger, I am actually still
a green horn of sorts in networking having only been in the field now for
just 5 years. But I do remember playing with a Tandy 1000 and MS DOS 3.11
and later MS DOS 5.0 and DOSSHELL, although I was never able to figure out
Title: Message
Ha -
long before Gates started college, therewas a company called International
Business Machines. And you had to program sorter/merger machinesto get
your punch cards in the proper order for the revolutionarybrand-new /370s
- because disk sorting was not yet available, even
Title: Message
What, you had a teletype instead of keypunch? Bah,
kids today. When I was a boy, we had to walk uphill in the snow both ways
just to submit our punchcards for overnight processing. And we liked
it.
Andrew 8)
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