RE: [Declude.JunkMail] whitelist and mult rcpt

2003-05-31 Thread Andy Schmidt
Darrell / Scott: We do not whitelist the postmaster account, instead you setup a filter test that contains an allrecips for the postmasters email address and assign this test a really high negative value to prevent the message from being bounced. Then you set the action up for the test as a

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] whitelist and mult rcpt

2003-05-31 Thread R. Scott Perry
We do not whitelist the postmaster account, instead you setup a filter test that contains an allrecips for the postmasters email address and assign this test a really high negative value to prevent the message from being bounced. Then you set the action up for the test as a routeto back to the

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] whitelist and mult rcpt

2003-05-30 Thread Madscientist
In the interim, a less complex method might be to have a setting which will ignore a white list entry for an address if more than one recipient is specified. This might take the form of a special kind of whitelist entry. Most valid messages to postmaster, for example, only have postmaster as the

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] whitelist and mult rcpt

2003-05-30 Thread Darrell LaRock
Karen, This is something that I brought up on the list awhile back with how to avoid this. As we were getting hammered with spam getting to the end user cause they were tagging the whitelisted postmaster account to it. We do not whitelist the postmaster account, instead you setup a filter test

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] whitelist and mult rcpt

2003-05-30 Thread Karen Oland
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Madscientist Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 8:49 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] whitelist and mult rcpt In the interim, a less complex method might be to have a setting which will ignore a white list entry for an address

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] whitelist and mult rcpt

2003-05-30 Thread R. Scott Perry
Why would you white list the postmaster anyway, only 1 of about 1000 emails to my postmaster account is legitimate. Same for abuse. See http://www.rfc-ignorant.org . They list domains that ignore abuse complaints. Perhaps the reason spam is so widespread now is because people aren't bothering

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] whitelist and mult rcpt

2003-05-30 Thread Karen Oland
From: R. Scott Perry Perhaps the reason spam is so widespread now is because people aren't bothering to listen to the abuse complaints. :) True. Oddly, we get ZERO emails sent to abuse (other than a flurry of virus attempts a while back). But, postmaster has become one of the most popular

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] whitelist and mult rcpt

2003-05-30 Thread Kevin Bilbee
Bilbee -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of R. Scott Perry Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 9:49 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] whitelist and mult rcpt Why would you white list the postmaster anyway, only 1 of about

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] whitelist and mult rcpt

2003-05-30 Thread R. Scott Perry
This is directly off the rfc-ignorant.org site. So it is OK to reject/block email to the postmaster as long as the following is applied. After careful consideration, there seemed to be a consensus among users that use of blacklists, etc., did not meet the narrowly tailored requirements for

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] whitelist and mult rcpt

2003-05-30 Thread R. Scott Perry
Then could you add special handling in declude for postmaster and abuse to allow for an alert to be passed back the the sender if the email should be deleted or held and one of the reciepients is postmaster or abuse or mabe the accounts could be configurable. A template email could be used to

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] whitelist and mult rcpt

2003-05-30 Thread Kevin Bilbee
Of R. Scott Perry Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 12:50 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] whitelist and mult rcpt Then could you add special handling in declude for postmaster and abuse to allow for an alert to be passed back the the sender if the email should be deleted

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] whitelist and mult rcpt

2003-05-30 Thread R. Scott Perry
But if the email is set to bounce and it is sent to multiple receipients along with postmaster and one of the other reciepients is set to delete then wont the email just be deleted and never bounced? You are correct -- the DELETE action will take priority over the BOUNCE action. I'll see if we

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] whitelist and mult rcpt

2003-05-29 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
I know it has been asked for before and said to be impossible (programmer speak, for don't want to do it -- I know, being one), but PLEASE consider creating multiple copies of messages that arrive for multiple recipients, so that the spam filters can operate (yes, this means some