[Declude.JunkMail] orbz is now dsbl

2002-03-25 Thread Helpdesk
Orbz is back as dsbl. Visit http://orbz.org/ or http://dsbl.org/ for more information. Greg --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] IP Blacklist

2002-03-25 Thread Rusty Nations
Sorry to just jump in on this, but this raises a question: If I block 192.168.212.2 specifically, then based on your answer, would it not then block .200 through .255 as well? Same if I blocked .21, then .210-.219 would also get snagged, .1 would block the 100s, you get the idea. Now being that

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] orbz is now dsbl

2002-03-25 Thread R. Scott Perry
This will be pretty much useless!! Anyone could sign up their enemies to be blacklisted. Where is the verification? They can only sign up their enemies if they have access to their enemy's mailserver. The key is that any E-mail that is received by the special dsbl address will automatically

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] orbz is now dsbl

2002-03-25 Thread Todd Holt
Then only the SPAMmers that have the dsbl mail address on their list (or aren't smart enough to know to remove it) will get blacklisted. I give more credit to the SPAMmers than that, so far. :-) Do you think this type of list can ultimately be useful? Or is this the best we can hope for now?

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] orbz is now dsbl

2002-03-25 Thread R. Scott Perry
Then only the SPAMmers that have the dsbl mail address on their list (or aren't smart enough to know to remove it) will get blacklisted. I give more credit to the SPAMmers than that, so far. :-) That's not the idea. It may be the idea that is being portrayed for legal reasons, though. The

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] orbz is now dsbl

2002-03-25 Thread Todd Holt
Is the idea that mail admins will forward the mail they consider spam to the dsbl address? If so, I see a new feature request for SpamReview!! :-) Todd -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of R. Scott Perry Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 10:43 AM

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] orbz is now dsbl

2002-03-25 Thread Joshua Levitsky
Read the instructions... even if someone sends spam through a server that goes so the new spam list they won't get the server listed. The message to boycott a server must have special tags in the first 6 lines of the email message to explain why the server is being boycotted. If you ask me this

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] orbz is now dsbl

2002-03-25 Thread Cris Porter
Isn't the idea that mail admins will receive spam and then test the source for an open relay and have the source send the mail to dsbl ? Cris -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Todd Holt Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 10:57 AM To: [EMAIL

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] orbz is now dsbl

2002-03-25 Thread Bill Landry
Do that and you will end up on the blacklist. DSBL says they will list, or are creating, some tools that will be configured to relay back through the suspect mail servers with the ultimate destination being the DSBL site, which will them add the relay site to the blacklist. However, as Scott

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] orbz is now dsbl

2002-03-25 Thread R. Scott Perry
This has some merit but doesn't it now mean that to submit an offending server one must relay spam through that server. Simply put this moves the legal weight on to those submitting the request. Yes. Now, the potential legal cost is borne by some of the people using the system, rather than

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] orbz is now dsbl

2002-03-25 Thread R. Scott Perry
Isn't the idea that mail admins will receive spam and then test the source for an open relay and have the source send the mail to dsbl ? That's correct. If you just forward the spam to them, your mailserver will get listed. They only list the mailserver that connects to theirs, so there can

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] orbz is now dsbl

2002-03-25 Thread R. Scott Perry
What changes are required on my end to start using dsbl. I hav e orbz in there now Nobody knows. The people that run DSBL haven't yet announced how it can actually be used. As soon as they do, we will post how to use it with Declude JunkMail. -Scott --- [This E-mail was

Re: BLARSBL:RE: [Declude.JunkMail] orbz is now dsbl

2002-03-25 Thread R. Scott Perry
So [EMAIL PROTECTED] can blacklist hotmail.com by sending an email to the special address. G There's the problem that dsbl will need to solve. Worse. I can get mailing lists blocked by signing up as [EMAIL PROTECTED] The first message, even the confirmation of my signing up, will