Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Bayesian filtering

2002-09-23 Thread R. Scott Perry
Has anyone seen anything about this .. Any good or bad ? .. Bayesian filtering .. Check this link http://www.paulgraham.com/filters.html Scott are you thinking along any of these line for the future of Declude? Here's part of an E-mail that I posted previously: --- The concept is flawed, but

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Base 64 test

2002-09-23 Thread Madscientist
Anecdotally this makes a lot of sense. It was primarily porn spam that caused us to move our filterchain module development forward in the sniffer program. _M ]-Original Message- ]From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ][mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of John Tolmachoff ]Sent: Monday, September 23,

[Declude.JunkMail] Yahoo Abuse Account

2002-09-23 Thread Avolve Support
What's a good rule or configuration that people have used for Yahoo. Seems Yahoo ( at least groups ) fails the abuse test when they do have an abuse account. I've been testing out the junkmail and went hog wild and well you can't please everyone all the time. -- Avolve Support 740 467 3338 --

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Yahoo Abuse Account

2002-09-23 Thread Avolve Support
Ok I got an extra of the email I sent to the list with subject line modified and one without. Hmm. Wonder if I'll get a second of this one. -- Original Message -- From: Avolve Support [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 23 Sep

[Declude.JunkMail] Junkmail - Spamheaders

2002-09-23 Thread Hirthe, Alexander
Hello, I try to play Junkmail, but it won't work. we host some websites, and they are sending mail over our primary mailserver. If the website uses ASPMail, the mail will fail because of Code: 420f. The E-mail failed the SPAMHEADERS test. This E-mail is missing a Message-ID: header.

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Junkmail - Spamheaders

2002-09-23 Thread R. Scott Perry
If the website uses ASPMail, the mail will fail because of Code: 420f. The E-mail failed the SPAMHEADERS test. This E-mail is missing a Message-ID: header. For this, you should upgrade ASPMail to the latest version (or ask them what the good reason is for not having the Message-ID:

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Junkmail - Spamheaders

2002-09-23 Thread John Tolmachoff
And if I use another tool, the webserver itself has no reverse lookup and no MX entry. It does not need this, because it will only send mail. But why not eliminate one test failure and create a PTR record for it? Is it really useful to whitelist all my addresses? Unless some one else can come

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hijack

2002-09-23 Thread John Tolmachoff
I agree, but our commerce server seems to be having a problem resolving domains, so until I have the time to figure that problem out, I am having our mail server deliver the messages. PS, Declude Queue does help. John Tolmachoff IT Manager, Network Engineer RelianceSoft, Inc. Fullerton, CA

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Junkmail - Spamheaders

2002-09-23 Thread Hirthe, Alexander
Hello Scott, For this, you should upgrade ASPMail to the latest version (or ask them what the good reason is for not having the Message-ID: header). it is the latest version ;-/ I'll try to ask them. Do you realize that all the servers using WTMail are sending mail that many mail clients

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Junkmail - Spamheaders

2002-09-23 Thread R. Scott Perry
Note that there is a LOOSENSPAMHEADERS ON option you can use to get the SPAMHEADERS test not to check for the Message-ID: header. However, this will only prevent the E-mail from failing the test on your server, not other servers. :) does IMail/Declude give the mail a valid Message-ID?

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Junkmail - Spamheaders

2002-09-23 Thread Hirthe, Alexander
Hello John, And if I use another tool, the webserver itself has no reverse lookup and no MX entry. It does not need this, because it will only send mail. But why not eliminate one test failure and create a PTR record for it? We are only forwarding the mail from the webserver to IMail, and

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Junkmail - Spamheaders

2002-09-23 Thread Tom Baker | Netsmith Inc
Well you are not taking into account systems like mine, which have a setup like HOP 0 HOPHIGH 4 Yes it adds CPU time, but any IP the message passes through gets tested on my system, And a PTR record does not take long to configure at all. on the Webserver. If your Webserver is IIS, why not

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude -diag response

2002-09-23 Thread R. Scott Perry
-diag response says that Declude Junkmail: Config file not found (M:\imail\Declude\global.CFG). Global.cfg is there and declude appears to be functioning just fine That is unusual. Is that the correct location (M:\imail\Declude\global.cfg)? Is the file named *exactly* like that (no

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude -diag response

2002-09-23 Thread Marv Gordon
DOH! What the heck was I looking at... You are correct. There is NOT a NOT! I should have stayed on vacation! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of R. Scott Perry Sent: Monday, September 23, 2002 11:43 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re:

[Declude.JunkMail] Upgrade to sniffer 1.1

2002-09-23 Thread Marv Gordon
Sniffer logfile shows nothing but matches (example below). Have not seen a clean entry since the upgrade today. sniffer 20020923165941 D4876000800deda6b.SMD 60 0 Match 10222 46 0 0 5 sniffer 20020923170147 D48f8000900ded796.SMD 60 0 Match 10222

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Upgrade to sniffer 1.1

2002-09-23 Thread Madscientist
This rule 10222 should match only a specific email address... however the scan index and ended are both z which is not possible. It is likley you have a corrupted .snf file. Hope this helps, _M | -Original Message- | From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Junkmail - Spamheaders

2002-09-23 Thread John Tolmachoff
And I like to have only one logfile to search for errors ;) Good point. John Tolmachoff IT Manager, Network Engineer RelianceSoft, Inc. Fullerton, CA 92835 www.reliancesoft.com --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the

[Declude.JunkMail] Filter types and Definitions?

2002-09-23 Thread Tom
I was wondering if someone could post the filter types and definitions. For example, I found these and I'm sure there are more. BODY10 CONTAINSif the Body contains a word or phrase HELO10 CONTAINSif the HELO command contains a word or phrase

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Filter types and Definitions?

2002-09-23 Thread R. Scott Perry
I was wondering if someone could post the filter types and definitions. For example, I found these and I'm sure there are more. BODY10 CONTAINSif the Body contains a word or phrase HELO10 CONTAINSif the HELO command contains a word or phrase

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Filter types and Definitions?

2002-09-23 Thread Jerod M. Bennett
Would it be possible to add CONTAINSWORD so white wouldn't be caught? Obviously, I understand it complicates things because you have to deal with things like hi. Perhaps you can just search for the word surrounded by non-letters and numbers. Just a thought. Jerod M. Bennett Director of Media

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Filter types and Definitions?

2002-09-23 Thread R. Scott Perry
Would it be possible to add CONTAINSWORD so white wouldn't be caught? It is unlikely that that would get added. The problem is that it adds a significant amount of extra processing time (especially when the headers or the body of the E-mail is scanned), and requires coming up with a way to

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Filter types and Definitions?

2002-09-23 Thread Tom Baker | Netsmith Inc
Don't forget HEADERS! I don't see it in the manual, but it was added and I am using it :) -Original Message- From: R. Scott Perry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, September 23, 2002 3:49 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Filter types and Definitions?

[Declude.JunkMail] negative weight in CFG

2002-09-23 Thread Tom
How does one go about creating a negative weight for the following CFG example: --- WLIST fromfiled:\imail\declude\allowed.txtx 0 0

[Declude.JunkMail] BASE64 test

2002-09-23 Thread Jerod M. Bennett
I searched the mail archive and found this example for the BASE64 test definition BASE64 base64 x x 4 0 I have two questions 1) Is this the correct format? 2) Does this test only fail on messages with Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 It is my

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] BASE64 test

2002-09-23 Thread Tom
I searched the mail archive and found this example for the BASE64 test definition BASE64 base64x x 4 0 BASE64 base64 x x 4 0 Looks correct. 2) Does this test only fail on messages with Content-Type: text/html

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] BASE64 test

2002-09-23 Thread Mark Madson
Will this test work for outgoing mail as well? -Mark -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tom Sent: Monday, September 23, 2002 2:54 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] BASE64 test I searched the mail archive and found

[Declude.JunkMail] Custom ASP for Declude Pro?

2002-09-23 Thread Zachery Wolfinger
Does anyone have custom .asp code to allow customers to set some of their own Declude pro settings? Thank you, Zachery Wolfinger Director of IT/IS - Galaxy Holdings, Inc. 888-758-3910 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ#: 28221108 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system

[Declude.JunkMail] Country file and codes

2002-09-23 Thread Tom
I created a list of countries and found that Declude is not working the way I thought it should. Declude checks the entire string for a match instead of just the tail end. I was under the impression that it examined the addresses from the tail end and not the beginning. So if I had .ru, then

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] BASE64 test

2002-09-23 Thread R. Scott Perry
I searched the mail archive and found this example for the BASE64 test definition BASE64 base64 x x 4 0 I have two questions 1) Is this the correct format? Yes, it is. This is a beta feature that is available in v1.60 and higher. 2) Does this test only fail on messages

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Custom ASP for Declude Pro?

2002-09-23 Thread Aaron Caviglia
I would love to find some as well! -- Thanks, Aaron mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] VanTech.Net www.vantech.net Phone 559.732.3952 Fax 559.732.1509 6707 W. Goshen Avenue Visalia, CA 93291 Monday, September 23, 2002, 3:00:32 PM, you wrote: ZW Does anyone have

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] negative weight in CFG

2002-09-23 Thread R. Scott Perry
How does one go about creating a negative weight for the following CFG example: --- WLIST fromfiled:\imail\declude\allowed.txtx 0 0

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Filter types and Definitions?

2002-09-23 Thread R. Scott Perry
Don't forget HEADERS! I don't see it in the manual, but it was added and I am using it Thanks -- it's in the manual now. I don't know how that one got overlooked... -Scott --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Country file and codes

2002-09-23 Thread R. Scott Perry
I created a list of countries and found that Declude is not working the way I thought it should. Declude checks the entire string for a match instead of just the tail end. I was under the impression that it examined the addresses from the tail end and not the beginning. So if I had .ru, then

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Yahoo Abuse Account

2002-09-23 Thread Sanford Whiteman
Seems Yahoo (at least groups) fails the abuse test when they do have an abuse account. yahoogroups.com should not fail, but yahoo.com proper (pardon the expression) should fail NOABUSE (they attempt to route people to [EMAIL PROTECTED], which is all well and good, but non-RFC). If

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] negative weight in CFG

2002-09-23 Thread Tom
Negative weight can (unfortunately) mean two different things. You can have: Assuming that this is a whitelist, you would want the first type (-1000 0). Thanks. Tom Image`fx --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from

[Declude.JunkMail] new filters

2002-09-23 Thread Adam Hobach
Hello, I was wondering if anyone would like to share their filter list, as I am working on mine right now. I only have about 20 filters in place right that are working great, but there are so many ways/options. Here are the filters I am looking for: SUBJECT BODY HEADERS HELO MAILFROM REMOTEIP

[Declude.JunkMail] hijack question

2002-09-23 Thread Bill B .
One of our client's got locked out by HiJack (hold2), but it appears to be because of inbound mail, not outgoing mail. This client has an email account at another provider which forwards to an account on our server. He had a few hundred emails from an automated program sent to his other

[Declude.JunkMail] Why is this failing Spamcop

2002-09-23 Thread David Dodell
Why is this IP failing Spamcop? http://spamcop.net/bl.shtml?162.42.150.35 The link says it falls below the threshold and shouldn't be listed. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Why is this failing SpamCop

2002-09-23 Thread John Tolmachoff
http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/ip4r.ch?ip=162.42.150.35 Shows listed in MAILDEFLECTOR and POSTFIXGATE. John Tolmachoff IT Manager, Network Engineer RelianceSoft, Inc. Fullerton, CA 92835 www.reliancesoft.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On