[Declude.JunkMail] Feature Idea?

2004-06-01 Thread Scott Fisher
I'm not sure of my terminology here.

The MAILFROM tests the e-mail address referred to as the Declude Mailfrom.
There is also a displayed mailfrom that is displayed in the e-mail client and can be 
quite misleading.

It would be interesting to have a variable to check the displayed mailfrom.

I am thinking of something like this to punish ebay phishs:

DISPLAYMAILFROMENDNOTCONTAINSEBAY.COM
MAILFROM END CONTAINSEBAY.COM

MAILFROM10   NOTCONTAINS  EBAY.COM

Scott Fisher
Director of IT
Farm Progress Companies

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[Declude.JunkMail] New filter test idea using DNS timeout.

2004-06-01 Thread Scott Fisher
My idea is to punish those people that have a reverse dns timeout.
To help counter a case where I have a DNS problem, I'll only perform this when a major 
RBL test fails.
Why? Under normal conditions the reverse dns shouldn't timeout, and that timeout 
negates the spamdomains tests.

Opinions? Is it a bad idea?

Reverse-timeout.txt:
REVDNS  3   CONTAINSTimeout

Combo-revdns-timeout.txt

TESTSFAILED END NOTCONTAINS REVDNS-TIMEOUT
MAXWEIGHT   12
TESTSFAILED 12  CONTAINSDSBL-DYNA
TESTSFAILED 12  CONTAINSMAILPOLICE-COMBO
TESTSFAILED 12  CONTAINSSPAMHAUS-SBL
TESTSFAILED 12  CONTAINSSPAMCOP-DYNA
TESTSFAILED 12  CONTAINSNJABL-SOURCES
TESTSFAILED 12  CONTAINSAHBL-SOURCES
TESTSFAILED 12  CONTAINSAHBL-DOMAINS


Scott Fisher
Director of IT
Farm Progress Companies

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[Declude.JunkMail] Example of WHITELIST in a Filter?

2004-06-01 Thread jeff
I've been playing with the WHITELIST in a filter option, mostly to 
create a filter for whitelisting mailing lists people subscribe to.  Ever 
since my Whitelist had to move out of Gloabl.cfg due to size 
(whitelisted employee home email addresses...) I've been looking at 
moving the few whitelist commands in my global.cfg to a filter for 
easier maintenance.  So...

If I create a filter called MailingLists.txt with lines like:

SUBJECT WHITELIST CONTAINS [Declude.JunkMail]
SUBJECT WHITELIST CONTAINS SecurityWatch
SUBJECT WHITELIST CONTAINS Koala Bear News

And so on, these will be whitelisted when the filter runs and bypass 
all JunkMail filtering, correct?  Or are these simply bypassing that 
specific filter?  (Which in itself would be helpful on occasion...)

Thanks,

Jeff
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Example of WHITELIST in a Filter?

2004-06-01 Thread Scott Fisher
WHITELIST will whitelist the mail and bypass all junkmail processing.

To bypass the specific filter use an END
SUBJECT END CONTAINS [Declude.JunkMail]


Scott Fisher
Director of IT
Farm Progress Companies

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/01/04 09:51AM 
I've been playing with the WHITELIST in a filter option, mostly to 
create a filter for whitelisting mailing lists people subscribe to.  Ever 
since my Whitelist had to move out of Gloabl.cfg due to size 
(whitelisted employee home email addresses...) I've been looking at 
moving the few whitelist commands in my global.cfg to a filter for 
easier maintenance.  So...

If I create a filter called MailingLists.txt with lines like:

SUBJECT WHITELIST CONTAINS [Declude.JunkMail]
SUBJECT WHITELIST CONTAINS SecurityWatch
SUBJECT WHITELIST CONTAINS Koala Bear News

And so on, these will be whitelisted when the filter runs and bypass 
all JunkMail filtering, correct?  Or are these simply bypassing that 
specific filter?  (Which in itself would be helpful on occasion...)

Thanks,

Jeff
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[Declude.JunkMail] Declude version 1.79 and Delog

2004-06-01 Thread Karl Hentschel
I noticed after I upgraded to Declude 1.79, Delog 1.08b is no longer able to
calculate the number of failed messages from the declude log files. It
returns that 0 failed. Apparently the log files for declude have changed
with this new version. Does anybody know if there is a newer version of
Delog or another program that can analyze the declude log files? Thanks

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Example of WHITELIST in a Filter?

2004-06-01 Thread jeff
 WHITELIST will whitelist the mail and bypass all junkmail processing.
 
 To bypass the specific filter use an END
 SUBJECT END CONTAINS [Declude.JunkMail]

That's what I thought, thanks for confirming it.  :)

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[Declude.JunkMail] Way off topic

2004-06-01 Thread Douglas McKee

Sorry to be a bother but I need to find someone who has successfully
harvested the passwords from Post.office so we can migrate to a newer
MTA. 
Currently we are running Declude and Imail on another server in front of
our real MTA.

Thanks,
Doug McKee

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude version 1.79 and Delog

2004-06-01 Thread Andy Schmidt
Hi,

 Does anybody know if there is a newer version of Delog or another program
that can analyze the declude log files? 

I use DLAnalyzer (www.DLAnalyzer.com) with great success.

Here a few snippets from reports that I schedule daily:

Last Action Report Using Action: DELETE, HOLD, BOUNCEONLYIFYOUMUST
Total Messages: 10,253
Matched Last Action: 7,116
Percentage: 69.40%
Average Message Weight: 24.00

TEST # FAILED   Percentage
IPNOTINMX...7,035...68.61%
NOLEGITCONTENT..6,734...65.68%
SNIFFER.6,051...59.02%
SPAMCOP.5,185...50.57%
SORBS...4,610...44.96%
XBL-DYNA4,322...42.15%
DSBLSINGLE..3,653...35.63%
NJABLDYNA...3,147...30.69%
AHBL1,875...18.29%
HELOBOGUS...1,752...17.09%
REVDNS..1,745...17.02%
SPAMROUTING.1,528...14.90%
NJABLPROXIES1,294...12.62%
SPAMHEADERS.1,251...12.20%
SBL.1,159...11.30%
BADHEADERS..1,066...10.40%
... Etc ... (you can sort by name as well)

IP Summary Report

TEST   # MESSAGES   Percentage
69.59.140.113..540.55%
69.59.140.120..420.43%
64.119.137.13..350.36%
213.91.6.11340.35%
127.0.0.1..320.33%
209.182.0.195..310.32%
... Etc ...

And - here my favorite report (that I send daily to my larger customers).
It itemizes any reports that we HOLD,DELETE,BOUNCE - so that they know
which mails they NEVER even saw in their inboxes (sorry for the
wrap-around):

Advanced Report

5/31/2004 12:01:13 AM   Subject ..: Hi George. it's something
increadible... gayer minimizing
Qae02200501285d38   From .: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
1 Recipient(s): [EMAIL PROTECTED]
13 Test(s) ...: BYPASS19, NJABL, NJABLDUL,
NJABLDYNA, SORBS, SORBS-DUHL, XBL-DYNA, HELOBOGUS, IPNOTINMX,
NOLEGITCONTENT, SNIFFER, DYNAMIC-IP, WEIGHTKILL

5/31/2004 12:01:31 AM   Subject ..: Get all meds over night - no
prescription needed
Qae10200801289187   From .: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
4 Recipient(s): [EMAIL PROTECTED],
[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
12 Test(s) ...: BYPASS19, BYPASS14, SPAMCOP,
NJABLDYNA, XBL-DYNA, IPNOTINMX, SPAMROUTING, NOLEGITCONTENT, BCC4, SNIFFER,
SPAMDOMAINS, WEIGHTKILL

5/31/2004 12:01:32 AM   Subject ..: Visit me
Qae13126c014a9cd2   From .: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
1 Recipient(s): [EMAIL PROTECTED]
13 Test(s) ...: BYPASS19, DSBLSINGLE, SPAMCOP,
NJABLDYNA, SORBS, SORBS-DUHL, XBL-DYNA, BASE64, IPNOTINMX, NOLEGITCONTENT,
SNIFFER, SPAMDOMAINS, WEIGHTKILL

5/31/2004 12:01:53 AM   Subject ..: Don't miss these great products
Qae2c200901280168   From .: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
1 Recipient(s): [EMAIL PROTECTED]
12 Test(s) ...: BYPASS19, DSBLSINGLE, SPAMCOP,
SORBS, XBL-DYNA, HELOBOGUS, IPNOTINMX, REVDNS, SPAMROUTING, NOLEGITCONTENT,
SNIFFER, WEIGHTKILL

... Etc ...

Number of Unique Messages Blocked: 1376

Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

HM Systems Software, Inc.
600 East Crescent Avenue, Suite 203
Upper Saddle River, NJ 07458-1846

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206

http://www.HM-Software.com/


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Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude version 1.79 and Delog


I noticed after I upgraded to Declude 1.79, Delog 1.08b is no longer able to
calculate the number of failed messages from the declude log files. It
returns that 0 failed. Apparently the log files for declude have changed
with this new version. Does anybody know if there is a newer version of
Delog or another program that can analyze the declude log files? Thanks

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude version 1.79 and Delog

2004-06-01 Thread Aaron J . Caviglia
Scott,
I've noticed the logging problem as well and I do have LOGLEVEL MID 
in my global.cfg.

That doesn't resolve the issue.
Aaron
On Jun 1, 2004, at 9:01 AM, R. Scott Perry wrote:

I noticed after I upgraded to Declude 1.79, Delog 1.08b is no longer 
able to
calculate the number of failed messages from the declude log files. It
returns that 0 failed. Apparently the log files for declude have 
changed
with this new version. Does anybody know if there is a newer version 
of
Delog or another program that can analyze the declude log files? 
Thanks
I believe this is due to the recent change in the log file format.  If 
you change the LOGLEVEL LOW line in your \IMail\Declude\global.cfg 
file to LOGLEVEL MID, I believe it will start working again.

   -Scott
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude version 1.79 and Delog

2004-06-01 Thread R. Scott Perry

I've noticed the logging problem as well and I do have LOGLEVEL MID in 
my global.cfg.

That doesn't resolve the issue.
Do you have the Msg failed lines in your log file?  If not, then you 
should go to LOGLEVEL HIGH.

   -Scott
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude version 1.79 and Delog

2004-06-01 Thread Keith Johnson
Scott,
Did the Msg Failed line under LOGLEVEL MID to report the
individual line numbers that it failed in a filter test get moved to
HIGH?

Keith 

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Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude version 1.79 and Delog


I've noticed the logging problem as well and I do have LOGLEVEL MID 
in my global.cfg.

That doesn't resolve the issue.

Do you have the Msg failed lines in your log file?  If not, then you
should go to LOGLEVEL HIGH.

-Scott
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude version 1.79 and Delog

2004-06-01 Thread Keith Johnson
Scott,
Thanks, we have been running along with MID since the beginning,
all along, upgrading the interim releases.  We just this week needed to
know which line it failed on in one of our filter files.  This is what
we get now in our log.  I will up to HIGH this week.  Thanks,

Qff4f4d2301429a89 BADHEADERS:8 SPAMHEADERS:8 FILTER-SUBJECT:9
FILTER-BODYURL:20 .  Total weight = 45.
06/01/2004 00:00:24 Qff4f4d2301429a89 Subject: Indebted to your
creditors? We can help
06/01/2004 00:00:24 Qff4f4d2301429a89 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: XXX  IP: 206.173.149.243 ID: 
06/01/2004 00:00:24 Qff4f4d2301429a89 Tests failed [weight=45]:
BADHEADERS=WARN IPNOTINMX=IGNORE SPAMHEADERS=WARN SNIFFER-NOTFND=IGNORE
WEIGHT10=WARN WEIGHT20=SUBJECT FILTER-SUBJECT=IGNORE
FILTER-BODYURL=IGNORE
 
Keith 


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Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude version 1.79 and Delog


 Did the Msg Failed line under LOGLEVEL MID to report the 
individual line numbers that it failed in a filter test get moved to 
HIGH?

With v1.78 and earlier, the Msg failed lines were at LOGLEVEL LOW.
With
v1.79 and later, they are at LOGLEVEL HIGH.

I believe that the Msg failed lines for filter tests have always
included the line number that triggered the filter.

-Scott
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude version 1.79 and Delog

2004-06-01 Thread R. Scott Perry

Thanks, we have been running along with MID since the beginning,
all along, upgrading the interim releases.  We just this week needed to
know which line it failed on in one of our filter files.  This is what
we get now in our log.  I will up to HIGH this week.  Thanks,
Qff4f4d2301429a89 BADHEADERS:8 SPAMHEADERS:8 FILTER-SUBJECT:9
FILTER-BODYURL:20 .  Total weight = 45.
06/01/2004 00:00:24 Qff4f4d2301429a89 Subject: Indebted to your
creditors? We can help
06/01/2004 00:00:24 Qff4f4d2301429a89 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: XXX  IP: 206.173.149.243 ID:
06/01/2004 00:00:24 Qff4f4d2301429a89 Tests failed [weight=45]:
BADHEADERS=WARN IPNOTINMX=IGNORE SPAMHEADERS=WARN SNIFFER-NOTFND=IGNORE
WEIGHT10=WARN WEIGHT20=SUBJECT FILTER-SUBJECT=IGNORE
FILTER-BODYURL=IGNORE
The Msg failed lines at LOGLEVEL HIGH include the line in the filter that 
failed.  So when you move to LOGLEVEL HIGH, it will have the information 
you desire.

   -Scott
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude version 1.79 and Delog

2004-06-01 Thread Aaron J . Caviglia
Scott,
Changing to Loglevel High seems to have added the Msg Failed lines to 
the log.

I run delog at the end of the day and see what the results are, but I'm 
pretty sure it works now.

Thanks,
Aaron
On Jun 1, 2004, at 10:16 AM, R. Scott Perry wrote:

Did the Msg Failed line under LOGLEVEL MID to report the
individual line numbers that it failed in a filter test get moved to
HIGH?
With v1.78 and earlier, the Msg failed lines were at LOGLEVEL LOW.  
With v1.79 and later, they are at LOGLEVEL HIGH.

I believe that the Msg failed lines for filter tests have always 
included the line number that triggered the filter.

   -Scott
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[Declude.JunkMail] Message Confirmation Feature

2004-06-01 Thread Andy Schmidt
Title: Message



Hi,

Since 
this doesn't appear to ever be offered as part of Declude, I took half an hour 
and threw a few lines of code together. 

If you 
have a small subset of messages that you hold but for which you are worried 
about occasional false positives being held, then you can use the HOLD and the 
ALERT actions to send out a notification to the apparent 
sender.

In 
theyour alert.eml template,you can offer a link 
to:

 http://yourmail.yourdomain.com/ReQ.asp?Q=%QUEUENAME%

which 
will release the held email for delivery.

Here's 
the necessary ASP code for "Req.asp", which you need to run on an IIS server 
with write access to your Imail Spool and Declude "hold" folders. (Use 
at your own risk and towhatever extent you like. No 
warranties!)

Server.ScriptTimeout = 
10;Response.Buffer = true;Response.CacheControl = 
"Private";Response.Expires = -1;

// 
// 
Global Variables// 


var strSpoolPath = 
"C:\\IMail\\Spool\\";var strHoldPath = strSpoolPath + 
"Spam\\";

var qQueueID = '';var reQueueID = 
/^D\w+\.\w{3}$/i;

// 
// 
Get Queue ID from QueryString //Qualify valid spool file name 
format// 


if ( Request.QueryString("Q").Count  0 
){qQueueID = ( new String( 
Request.QueryString("Q") ) ).valueOf();}

if ( !reQueueID.test( qQueueID ) ) 
{// Format is not 
"Dx.xxx"Response.Write( "Error: The string '" + escape( 
qQueueID ) + "' is not in the expected Queue ID format.br\n" ); 
Response.End();}

var strQueueID_Hdr = "Q" + qQueueID.substr( 1 
);

// 
// 
Move Message File Back to Queue// 


var objFS = new 
ActiveXObject("Scripting.FileSystemObject");

var strSource1 = strHoldPath + 
qQueueID;var strTarget1 = strSpoolPath + qQueueID;

var strSource2 = strHoldPath + 
strQueueID_Hdr;var strTarget2 = strSpoolPath + 
strQueueID_Hdr;

// validate status of source and target 
filesif ( !objFS.FileExists( strSource1 ) 
){Response.Write( "Error: Message data file not 
found!br\n" 
)Response.End();}else if ( 
!objFS.FileExists( strSource2 ) 
){Response.Write( "Error: Message header file 
not found!br\n" 
)Response.End();}else if ( 
objFS.FileExists( strTarget1 ) ){Response.Write( 
"Error: Message data file already exists in queue!br\n" 
)Response.End();}else if ( 
objFS.FileExists( strTarget2 ) ){Response.Write( 
"Error: Message header file already exists in queue!br\n" 
)Response.End();}

// move and rename 
filetry{ objFS.MoveFile( strSource1, 
strSpoolPath );objFS.MoveFile( strSource2, strSpoolPath 
);Response.Write( "Success: Message ID '" + qQueueID + "' has 
been re-queued for delivery.br\n" );}catch(e) 
{Response.Write( "Error during moving file: " + 
e + "br\n" + ( e.number  0x ) + ", " + e.description + 
"br\n" );}

objFS = null;

Best 
RegardsAndy SchmidtHM Systems Software, Inc.600 East Crescent 
Avenue, Suite 203Upper Saddle River, NJ 07458-1846Phone: +1 201 934-3414 x20 
(Business)Fax: +1 201 934-9206http://www.HM-Software.com/ 

  


[Declude.JunkMail] ALERT then HOLD?

2004-06-01 Thread Andy Schmidt
Title: Message



Hi 
Scott:

I set up two tests 
(same test, different names) that cause an ALERT and a HOLD 
action.

After testing a bit, 
I get the feeling as if the ALERT is not working (see enclosed debug 
log)

Is there some rule 
of thumb or chart, which actions are mutually exclusive?

06/01/2004 
17:20:25.966 Qf3142d4c01321d40 Processed 60 lines in 
LoadActions(44eb90,1,[EMAIL PROTECTED]).06/01/2004 
17:20:25.966 Qf3142d4c01321d40 Used SWITCHRECIP ON06/01/2004 17:20:25.966 
Qf3142d4c01321d40 
..X..X..X...XX...XX..06/01/2004 
17:20:25.966 Qf3142d4c01321d40 Test #34 [SBL weight=7] triggered; action = 0 
["http://www.spamhaus.org/SBL/sbl.lasso?query=SBL13499"]06/01/2004 
17:20:25 Qf3142d4c01321d40 Msg failed SBL ("http://www.spamhaus.org/SBL/sbl.lasso?query=SBL13499"). 
Action="">06/01/2004 17:20:25.966 Qf3142d4c01321d40 Action 0: SV=30 
AV=1006/01/2004 17:20:25.966 Qf3142d4c01321d40 Test #49 [BADHEADERS 
weight=5] triggered; action = 7 [This E-mail was sent from a broken mail client 
[8004000e].]06/01/2004 17:20:25 Qf3142d4c01321d40 Msg failed BADHEADERS 
(This E-mail was sent from a broken mail client [8004000e].). 
Action="">06/01/2004 17:20:25.966 Qf3142d4c01321d40 X-Declude-Note: 
%WARNING% See: http://www.declude.com/tools/header.php?code=%HEADERCODE%06/01/2004 
17:20:25.982 Qf3142d4c01321d40 X-Declude-Note: This E-mail was sent from a 
broken mail client [8004000e]. See: http://www.declude.com/tools/header.php?code=8004000e06/01/2004 
17:20:25.982 Qf3142d4c01321d40 Test #52 [IPNOTINMX weight=0] triggered; action = 
0 []06/01/2004 17:20:25.982 Qf3142d4c01321d40 Action 0: SV=30 
AV=1006/01/2004 17:20:25.982 Qf3142d4c01321d40 Test #56 [NOLEGITCONTENT 
weight=0] triggered; action = 0 [No content unique to legitimate E-mail 
detected.]06/01/2004 17:20:25.982 Qf3142d4c01321d40 Action 0: SV=30 
AV=1006/01/2004 17:20:25.982 Qf3142d4c01321d40 Test #61 [SNIFFER weight=4] 
triggered; action = 1 [Message failed SNIFFER: 50.]06/01/2004 17:20:25 
Qf3142d4c01321d40 Msg failed SNIFFER (Message failed SNIFFER: 50.). 
Action="">06/01/2004 17:20:25.982 Qf3142d4c01321d40 Action 1: SV=30 
AV=1006/01/2004 17:20:25.982 Qf3142d4c01321d40 Test #77 [WEIGHT10 weight=10] 
triggered; action = "" [Total weight between 10 and 19.]06/01/2004 17:20:25 
Qf3142d4c01321d40 Msg failed WEIGHT10 (Total weight between 10 and 19.). Action="">.06/01/2004 17:20:25.982 
Qf3142d4c01321d40 Action 14: SV=30 AV=1006/01/2004 17:20:25.982 
Qf3142d4c01321d40 Test #78 [WEIGHTHOLD weight=10] triggered; action = "" [Total 
weight between 10 and 19.]06/01/2004 17:20:25 Qf3142d4c01321d40 Msg failed 
WEIGHTHOLD (Total weight between 10 and 19.). Action="">.06/01/2004 17:20:25.982 
Qf3142d4c01321d40 Action 17: SV=30 AV=1006/01/2004 17:20:25 
Qf3142d4c01321d40 Subject: Act Now to Get 12 CDs For The Price Of 1 with 
membership06/01/2004 17:20:25 Qf3142d4c01321d40 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
IP: 64.124.170.151 ID: 06/01/2004 17:20:25 Qf3142d4c01321d40 Tests failed 
[weight=16]: SBL=IGNORE BADHEADERS=WARN IPNOTINMX=IGNORE NOLEGITCONTENT=IGNORE 
SNIFFER=LOG WEIGHT10=ALERT WEIGHTHOLD=HOLD 06/01/2004 17:20:25.982 Qf3142d4c01321d40 Done 
Looping06/01/2004 17:20:25.982 Qf3142d4c01321d40 AlterRecip( 5, (null), 
(null));06/01/2004 17:20:25.982 Qf3142d4c01321d40 AlterRecip: Saving 
queuefile06/01/2004 17:20:25 Qf3142d4c01321d40 Last action = 
"">06/01/2004 17:20:25.982 Qf3142d4c01321d40 X-Declude: Version 1.79i6; 
Df3142d4c01321d40.SMD from mail4.dtmail.net [64.124.170.151]

X-Declude: Triggered 
SBL, BADHEADERS, SNIFFER, WEIGHTHOLD [16]

X-Countries: UNITED 
STATES-destination

Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

06/01/2004 
17:20:25.982 Qf3142d4c01321d40 AlterMessage06/01/2004 17:20:25.998 
Qf3142d4c01321d40 Set process priority back to 32.06/01/2004 17:20:25.998 
Qf3142d4c01321d40 Adding warning06/01/2004 
17:20:25.998 Qf3142d4c01321d40 Last Action="">.06/01/2004 
17:20:25.998 Qf3142d4c01321d40 Unlocked 
D:\IMAIL\spool\Qf3142d4c01321d40.SMD.06/01/2004 
17:20:25.998 Qf3142d4c01321d40 Moving file to spam hold 
directory06/01/2004 17:20:26.013 Qf3142d4c01321d40 Total 
Time: 265ms [4718ms elapsed minus DNS]



Best 
RegardsAndy SchmidtHM Systems Software, Inc.600 East Crescent 
Avenue, Suite 203Upper Saddle River, NJ 07458-1846Phone: +1 201 934-3414 x20 
(Business)Fax: +1 201 934-9206http://www.HM-Software.com/ 



RE: [Declude.JunkMail] COPYTO combined with DELETE/HOLD/BOUNCE

2004-06-01 Thread Andy Schmidt
Title: Message



Hi 
Scott:

I 
think the the issue of "mutually exclusive" actions may not be obvious to a user 
(after reading the manual).

I did 
some more experimenting using the COPYTO action.

My 
logic was - if I use a "copy" to another user, this reallyshouldn't effect 
how the "primary" recipient's mail is acted on. From my tests it seems as 
if DELETE/HOLD/BOUNCE basically are "killer" actions that cannot be combined 
with ANY other action (other than "LOG/IGNORE")?

I have 
the need to DELETE/HOLD/BOUNCE the "original" message - while (depending on test 
combinations) also route the mail to a special mailbox for 
inspection.

Best 
RegardsAndy SchmidtHM Systems Software, Inc.600 East Crescent 
Avenue, Suite 203Upper Saddle River, NJ 07458-1846Phone: +1 201 934-3414 x20 
(Business)Fax: +1 201 934-9206http://www.HM-Software.com/ 

  


RE: [Declude.JunkMail] COPYTO combined with DELETE/HOLD/BOUNCE

2004-06-01 Thread R. Scott Perry

My logic was - if I use a copy to another user, this really shouldn't 
effect how the primary recipient's mail is acted on.  From my tests it 
seems as if DELETE/HOLD/BOUNCE basically are killer actions that cannot 
be combined with ANY other action (other than LOG/IGNORE)?

I have the need to DELETE/HOLD/BOUNCE the original message - while 
(depending on test combinations) also route the mail to a special mailbox 
for inspection.
Actually, I believe the COPYTO action should be safe to use with other 
actions.  The problem, though, is that if combined with the DELETE action 
the E-mail is deleted (so the extra recipient won't get the E-mail), if the 
HOLD action is used, the E-mail will be held (also preventing the extra 
recipient from seeing it), and with BOUNCE the E-mail is not delivered to 
the recipient (so the extra recipient won't see it either).

It sounds like you are looking to split a single E-mail into two, and have 
different actions taken on each one (something we are considering, but 
likely will not happen soon).

   -Scott
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] ALERT then HOLD?

2004-06-01 Thread R. Scott Perry

I set up two tests (same test, different names) that cause an ALERT and a 
HOLD action.
The problem here is that the ALERT action is designed specifically to 
deliver the E-mail, and the HOLD action is designed specifically to block 
it.  Since both can't be used together, the HOLD action is used (since it 
is the stricter of the two actions, per the order they are listed in the 
manual).

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] ALERT then HOLD?

2004-06-01 Thread Andy Schmidt
Hi Scott:

 The problem here is that the ALERT action is designed specifically to 
deliver the E-mail, and the HOLD action is designed specifically to block 
it. 

I get it.

I guess my suggestion would be to make a distinction between:

- final message disposition: DELETE / HOLD / PASS
- message actions: NONE, COPY, ALERT

In that context, today's actions could be viewed as a combination of an
action and final disposition:

BOUNCE = ALERT+DELETE
ROUTE = COPY+DELETE
COPYTO = COPY+PASS
IGNORE = NONE+PASS

etc.

That would give us more flexibility in determining what actions to take and
what final disposition a message should have.


Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

HM Systems Software, Inc.
600 East Crescent Avenue, Suite 203
Upper Saddle River, NJ 07458-1846

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206

http://www.HM-Software.com/


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I set up two tests (same test, different names) that cause an ALERT and 
a
HOLD action.

The problem here is that the ALERT action is designed specifically to 
deliver the E-mail, and the HOLD action is designed specifically to block 
it.  Since both can't be used together, the HOLD action is used (since it 
is the stricter of the two actions, per the order they are listed in the 
manual).

-Scott
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] COPYTO combined with DELETE/HOLD/BOUNCE

2004-06-01 Thread Goran Jovanovic
Let me throw in my two cents worth as well.

If you are thinking about changing the way you process actions I would
like to see the ability to do multiple actions per test.

NEWFILTER WARN,COPYTO [EMAIL PROTECTED],HOLD

Not sure how you would do this but for me this makes sense.

Want the WARN to see that happens in the header
Copy it to an administrator type person to see what is happening
HOLD it in the queues for releasing or not.

This would allow you to test a new filter and monitor it.

I also had a crazy request today that a person wanted all the SPAM for
the company in question and they would wade through it. Although I
suppose that could be done with a WEIGHT10 ROUTETO
[EMAIL PROTECTED] in that domain's config.

 
 Goran Jovanovic
 The LAN Shoppe

 

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of R. Scott Perry
 Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 6:32 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] COPYTO combined with
DELETE/HOLD/BOUNCE
 
 
 My logic was - if I use a copy to another user, this really
shouldn't
 effect how the primary recipient's mail is acted on.  From my tests
it
 seems as if DELETE/HOLD/BOUNCE basically are killer actions that
cannot
 be combined with ANY other action (other than LOG/IGNORE)?
 
 I have the need to DELETE/HOLD/BOUNCE the original message - while
 (depending on test combinations) also route the mail to a special
mailbox
 for inspection.
 
 Actually, I believe the COPYTO action should be safe to use with other
 actions.  The problem, though, is that if combined with the DELETE
action
 the E-mail is deleted (so the extra recipient won't get the E-mail),
if
 the
 HOLD action is used, the E-mail will be held (also preventing the
extra
 recipient from seeing it), and with BOUNCE the E-mail is not delivered
to
 the recipient (so the extra recipient won't see it either).
 
 It sounds like you are looking to split a single E-mail into two, and
have
 different actions taken on each one (something we are considering, but
 likely will not happen soon).
 
 
 -Scott
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude version 1.79 and Delog

2004-06-01 Thread Robert


But who wants 800MB to 1GB spam log files?
The server is so busy doing declude processes there isn't enough time to run
a log analyzer on the local machine.
It takes to long to transfer the log file to a different machine.


Robert


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  Thanks, we have been running along with MID since the beginning,
 all along, upgrading the interim releases.  We just this week needed to
 know which line it failed on in one of our filter files.  This is what
 we get now in our log.  I will up to HIGH this week.  Thanks,
 
 Qff4f4d2301429a89 BADHEADERS:8 SPAMHEADERS:8 FILTER-SUBJECT:9
 FILTER-BODYURL:20 .  Total weight = 45.
 06/01/2004 00:00:24 Qff4f4d2301429a89 Subject: Indebted to your
 creditors? We can help
 06/01/2004 00:00:24 Qff4f4d2301429a89 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: XXX  IP: 206.173.149.243 ID:
 06/01/2004 00:00:24 Qff4f4d2301429a89 Tests failed [weight=45]:
 BADHEADERS=WARN IPNOTINMX=IGNORE SPAMHEADERS=WARN SNIFFER-NOTFND=IGNORE
 WEIGHT10=WARN WEIGHT20=SUBJECT FILTER-SUBJECT=IGNORE
 FILTER-BODYURL=IGNORE

 The Msg failed lines at LOGLEVEL HIGH include the line in the filter
that
 failed.  So when you move to LOGLEVEL HIGH, it will have the information
 you desire.


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude version 1.79 and Delog

2004-06-01 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
 But who wants 800MB to 1GB spam log files?
 The server is so busy doing declude processes there isn't enough time to
run
 a log analyzer on the local machine.
 It takes to long to transfer the log file to a different machine.

Once a week, I zip the previous weeks logs, ftp them to my workstation, and
run reports there.

John Tolmachoff
Engineer/Consultant/Owner
eServices For You


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