[Declude.JunkMail] Exiting with fixed weight
Hi; Is there anyway a filter can exit with an exact weight at the end? Using MaxWeight I can make sure that a filter does not add more than a certain weight to the final weight. But lets say I want to make sure that if the weight is below a certain level when I exit I am at a set weight. Using: SKIPIFWEIGHT 30 MINWEIGHTTOFAIL 5 MAXWEIGHT5 If this filter is triggered then upon exit a total of 5 will be added to the final then the final weight can be at most 34 or at least 5.. what if I want the final weight to be 35 regardless. Is there a feature that can do this? Regards, Kami
[Declude.JunkMail] Anti Spam Proxy
Title: Message Hi, I've been monitoring the developments here - quite interesting: http://www.aloaha.com/features.htm This is what Declude and Imail has been missing all these years, outright closing the connections instead of non-compliant behavior (by not creating bounce messages). Now that they support LDAP it may be feasible to have the proxy check the Imail user list... Best RegardsAndy SchmidtHM Systems Software, Inc.600 East Crescent Avenue, Suite 203Upper Saddle River, NJ 07458-1846Phone: +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)Fax: +1 201 934-9206http://www.HM-Software.com/
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Exiting with fixed weight
Set all lines of filter to weight of 0. In the Global.cfg, set the weight of the fail for that test to 35. John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kami Razvan Sent: Friday, November 26, 2004 5:24 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Exiting with fixed weight Hi; Is there anyway a filter can exit with an exact weight at the end? Using MaxWeight I can make sure that a filter does not add more than a certain weight to the final weight. But lets say I want to make sure that if the weight is below a certain level when I exit I am at a set weight. Using: SKIPIFWEIGHT 30 MINWEIGHTTOFAIL 5 MAXWEIGHT5 If this filter is triggered then upon exit a total of 5 will be added to the final then the final weight can be at most 34 or at least 5.. what if I want the final weight to be 35 regardless. Is there a feature that can do this? Regards, Kami
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Exiting with fixed weight
Hi John.. I don't think that would work.. that will add 35 to the total weight of the email. I want for the final weight of the email up to that point to become 35. I think with your suggestion if the email has a weight of 34 after the test it will end up with 69 (35 + 34). I could be wrong of course.. Kami From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Tolmachoff (Lists)Sent: Friday, November 26, 2004 11:26 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Exiting with fixed weight Set all lines of filter to weight of 0. In the Global.cfg, set the weight of the fail for that test to 35. John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kami RazvanSent: Friday, November 26, 2004 5:24 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Exiting with fixed weight Hi; Is there anyway a filter can exit with an exact weight at the end? Using MaxWeight I can make sure that a filter does not add more than a certain weight to the final weight. But lets say I want to make sure that if the weight is below a certain level when I exit I am at a set weight. Using: SKIPIFWEIGHT 30 MINWEIGHTTOFAIL 5 MAXWEIGHT5 If this filter is triggered then upon exit a total of 5 will be added to the final then the final weight can be at most 34 or at least 5.. what if I want the final weight to be 35 regardless. Is there a feature that can do this? Regards, Kami
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Exiting with fixed weight
What is the purpose of the test? If you want a message that fails any line in that test (that is the way I am understanding it) to receive and exact weight of 35 for that test, you would score each line of the test at 0, get rid of the minweight and maxweight, then set the fail weight of the test to 35. This is the standard basic normal fail weight. John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kami Razvan Sent: Friday, November 26, 2004 8:50 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Exiting with fixed weight Hi John.. I don't think that would work.. that will add 35 to the total weight of the email. I want for the final weight of the email up to that point to become 35. I think with your suggestion if the email has a weight of 34 after the test it will end up with 69 (35 + 34). I could be wrong of course.. Kami From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Tolmachoff (Lists) Sent: Friday, November 26, 2004 11:26 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Exiting with fixed weight Set all lines of filter to weight of 0. In the Global.cfg, set the weight of the fail for that test to 35. John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kami Razvan Sent: Friday, November 26, 2004 5:24 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Exiting with fixed weight Hi; Is there anyway a filter can exit with an exact weight at the end? Using MaxWeight I can make sure that a filter does not add more than a certain weight to the final weight. But lets say I want to make sure that if the weight is below a certain level when I exit I am at a set weight. Using: SKIPIFWEIGHT 30 MINWEIGHTTOFAIL 5 MAXWEIGHT5 If this filter is triggered then upon exit a total of 5 will be added to the final then the final weight can be at most 34 or at least 5.. what if I want the final weight to be 35 regardless. Is there a feature that can do this? Regards, Kami
[Declude.JunkMail] TESTSFAILED Detection
Hi; I don't think with the current TESTSFAILED option one can uniquely identify a single test or can we? Example: I have broken down all tests into combination filters with a naming convention. IP4R-something COMBO-IP4r-something Now I can write combo filters that are: TESTSFAILED END CONTAINS COMBO- Or TESTSFAILED END CONTAINS COMBO-IP4R But I can not say TESTSFAILED END is the exact name ofone of thefailed test IP4R-something without triggering the COMBO-IP4R-something I guess the question is one can not detect a failed test by its exact name. In the manual the only option for TESTSFAILED is either CONTAINS or NOTCONTAINS. Can one find out if a TEST's name is among the tests that have failed but as the exact name of the test? Regards, Kami
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Exiting with fixed weight
Hi John: I am experimenting with a different way of looking at the IP4r tests. Over the last month I have changed all the IP4r tests into various categories and through monitoring the spam I have created over 20 combo filters that detects spam and tries to credit good mail without any text filters. In order not to over penalize certain conditions I want to make sure that at various stages of the tests emails have certain tests and not more. For example. If an email is listed with MailPolice-WebMail I do not want to automatically score it too high but in the presence of other conditions make sure that it has a weight of lets say 10- no more, no less. but in the absence of those conditions the default weight of 5 is fine. Through the combination of various tests one can step by step move an email to delivery, hold, or deletion based on certain conditions. I wish I could also have tests that could identify if a test's name starts with something, ends with something or contains something. Right now we can only check CONTAINS. This feature could add a lot more power and will let us take an interesting object oriented approach to all the tests. Regards, Kami From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Tolmachoff (Lists)Sent: Friday, November 26, 2004 12:07 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Exiting with fixed weight What is the purpose of the test? If you want a message that fails any line in that test (that is the way I am understanding it) to receive and exact weight of 35 for that test, you would score each line of the test at 0, get rid of the minweight and maxweight, then set the fail weight of the test to 35. This is the standard basic normal fail weight. John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kami RazvanSent: Friday, November 26, 2004 8:50 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Exiting with fixed weight Hi John.. I don't think that would work.. that will add 35 to the total weight of the email. I want for the final weight of the email up to that point to become 35. I think with your suggestion if the email has a weight of 34 after the test it will end up with 69 (35 + 34). I could be wrong of course.. Kami From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Tolmachoff (Lists)Sent: Friday, November 26, 2004 11:26 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Exiting with fixed weight Set all lines of filter to weight of 0. In the Global.cfg, set the weight of the fail for that test to 35. John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kami RazvanSent: Friday, November 26, 2004 5:24 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Exiting with fixed weight Hi; Is there anyway a filter can exit with an exact weight at the end? Using MaxWeight I can make sure that a filter does not add more than a certain weight to the final weight. But lets say I want to make sure that if the weight is below a certain level when I exit I am at a set weight. Using: SKIPIFWEIGHT 30 MINWEIGHTTOFAIL 5 MAXWEIGHT5 If this filter is triggered then upon exit a total of 5 will be added to the final then the final weight can be at most 34 or at least 5.. what if I want the final weight to be 35 regardless. Is there a feature that can do this? Regards, Kami
[Declude.JunkMail] Vacationing Spammers
Title: Message Anyone notice a drop in the amount of spam??? Sort of speaks most of the spammers are in the US or at least taking part in a US holdiay perhaps. Michael JaworskiPuget Sound Network, Inc.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Vacationing Spammers
Title: Message It's also been noted that every time there's a hurricane in Florida, spam drops considerably. -Original Message-From: Michael Jaworski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 26, 2004 10:06 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Vacationing Spammers Anyone notice a drop in the amount of spam??? Sort of speaks most of the spammers are in the US or at least taking part in a US holdiay perhaps. Michael JaworskiPuget Sound Network, Inc.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Vacationing Spammers
On Friday, November 26, 2004, 1:05:37 PM, Michael wrote: MJ Anyone notice a drop in the amount of spam??? Sort of speaks MJ most of the spammers are in the US or at least taking part in a MJ US holdiay perhaps. I saw a huge peak at first, and now it seems about normal, maybe sub-normal. _M --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Vacationing Spammers
On Friday, November 26, 2004, 1:05:37 PM, Michael wrote: MJ Anyone notice a drop in the amount of spam??? Sort of speaks MJ most of the spammers are in the US or at least taking part in a MJ US holdiay perhaps. This data from http://www.sortmonster.com/MessageSniffer/Performance/ChangeRates.jsp These are roughly the number of new spam rules added per day. Day zero is today -- looking on track to be about like yesterday, but look at day 2 !OUCH!. Days Ago Adjustments --- 0374 1639 2907 3624 4707 5421 6655 7601 --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Vacationing Spammers
These are roughly the number of new spam rules added per day. Day zero is today -- looking on track to be about like yesterday, but look at day 2 !OUCH!. Days Ago Adjustments --- 0374 1639 2907 3624 4707 5421 6655 7601 That just means that on Wednesday they were extra busy so that they could take off Thursday and Friday. John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Vacationing Spammers
I've seen an increase in spam for the last few days slipping through with low weights or without failing any tests. -- Original Message -- From: Michael Jaworski [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2004 10:05:37 -0800 Anyone notice a drop in the amount of spam??? Sort of speaks most of the spammers are in the US or at least taking part in a US holdiay perhaps. Michael Jaworski Puget Sound Network, Inc. Sent via the WebMail system at wcnet.net --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Processing Order???
I've asked the same in the past and never got an answer. I'd like to know what is included in #3 (most?) and #7 (extra tests). John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Terry Parks Sent: Friday, November 26, 2004 6:29 PM To: Declude. JunkMail Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Processing Order??? The Declude manual shows this as the processing order: 1. IMail's Control Access file (to block IPs) 2. IMail's Kill List (to block return addresses) 3. IMail v8 anti-spam (most tests) 4. Declude Virus 5. Declude Hijack 6. Declude JunkMail 7. IMail's filters and extra IMail v8 anti-spam tests Given that we are running Declude Pro with Imail 8.14HF1, What test's in item 3 are run? Terry --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Surfside Internet] --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
