[Declude.JunkMail] SMTP Service

2005-02-28 Thread Kyle Fisher








If you are running Imail should you ever see the stmp32.exe
process ever come up? I know youll see SMTPd32.exe



Occasionally I will see the smtp32.exe process come up, but
none of that is enabled and I was wondering if I have been Hi-jacked or
something. This morning I had a very heavy load as users got into work
and I was seeing stmp32.exe and stmpd32.exe at about the same rate.



For the past 2 weeks I have noticed the SMTPd32.exe process
getting up to 2.32 Gig and staying there normally it is about 7 Mb in the task
manager. I had a problem about 3 months ago with the spool filling up but
that was do to a memory leak in 2003 DNS and I put that hot fix on and it has
been working fine until 2 weeks.



The only weird thing about 3 weeks ago when I looked into my
network connections I had a RAC connection setup and it was connected and I
have never seen that before. I also have a RAC VNC Service under services
now. I did read something about Dell having RAC VNC Service, but unless
it installed it on its own I have never seen it. I have turned it all off
and It hasnt affected anything on my end so I dont know what it
is.



Kyle



2003 Windows Server

Imail 8.15

Declude 2.05 Junkmail/Antivirus

Sniffer

F-Prot 3.16a








[Declude.JunkMail] SpamCop listing AOL webmail servers

2005-02-28 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
http://www.spamcop.net/bl.shtml?205.188.139.132

WHY? (grumble mumble grumble ^%^$^*(^%^%^^)

John Tolmachoff
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[Declude.JunkMail] OT: Lengthening Time for Store and Forward Retry

2005-02-28 Thread Dan Geiser
Hello, All,
I had a question about IMail.

We do store and forward spam filtering for a lot of customers.  If a
customer's incoming SMTP server is down, e.g. because of a power outage,
IMail will only try 20 times before returning the messages to the sender.
This equates to about 10 hours.  Is there any way to lengthen the amount of
time or number of retries that IMail will attempt to resend Store and
Forwarded e-mail?

Thanks In Advance,
Dan Geiser
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SpamCop listing AOL webmail servers

2005-02-28 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
Well, John.  I'm sure that's a rhetorical question, but I'm feeling a
little chatty while I listen to hold music.

SpamCop and pretty well every other blacklisting service make no
allowance for how much good mail is coming from an IP address.  They
only do blacklisting.

The funny thing is that since IronPort now owns SpamCop.net, you'd think
that they could use the statistics that they expose at SenderBase.org to
adjust the weighting mechanism that SpamCop uses.

I'm sure that

a) AOL isn't perfect, and spam does come from some accounts,
b) Automated (and semi-automated) listing mechanisms like SpamCop will
impede traffic
c) AOL is the ISP that everyone loves to hate.  SpamCop users may well
go ahead and
   and report suspicious emails.
d) Spam and virus blowblack needs to be carefully weeded out by ISPs so
that they
   don't get listed by sending unexpected responses to forged addresses.

It's been said by wiser heads, but I'll say it again for folks without
John's depth of experience:  Don't weigh individual tests high enough to
be caught by a single false positive.  That likely means that you will
get some spam in, but that's preferable to blocking mail that you
shouldn't.

I've been burned by multiple ip4r tests blocking ISPs, and have
counterweighted those mail servers accordingly.  That also means that
I'm more likely to get spam.

I'll also add that false positives in blacklisting has made content
inspection much more important to me.  Mail Sniffer from SortMonster.com
helps me out a huge amount, and has taken away much of my burden for
maintaining my own filter text files.

A SURBL lookup like invIURIBL from invariantsystems.com or via
spamassassin would certainly help out too (but I'm not there yet).

Andrew 8)

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http://www.spamcop.net/bl.shtml?205.188.139.132

WHY? (grumble mumble grumble ^%^$^*(^%^%^^)

John Tolmachoff
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Lengthening Time for Store and Forward Retry

2005-02-28 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
Sure thing, Dan.

IMail always retries at 10 minute intervals, so you set the duration of
the retries by multiplying out the value at: localhost, Services, SMTP,
x tried before returning to sender.

If you want more flexibility, invest the time to implement Microsoft
Windows Server IIS SMTP for your outbound mail.  Lots of options there.

Andrew 8)

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Hello, All,
I had a question about IMail.

We do store and forward spam filtering for a lot of customers.  If a
customer's incoming SMTP server is down, e.g. because of a power outage,
IMail will only try 20 times before returning the messages to the
sender. This equates to about 10 hours.  Is there any way to lengthen
the amount of time or number of retries that IMail will attempt to
resend Store and Forwarded e-mail?

Thanks In Advance,
Dan Geiser
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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[Declude.JunkMail] AOL header tags

2005-02-28 Thread Nick Hayer
Hello - 

I am seeing these tags in AOL bounces - 
X-AOL-IP: 213.226.82.229 
X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:169167590:15837691
X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0

Does anyone know what they represent? The first I believe is the 
original sender ip; since these are coming to me mainly as a result 
of  joejobs I'm looking for a way to penalize these type bounces - 

Thanks

-Nick 
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Lengthening Time for Store and Forward Retry

2005-02-28 Thread Darrell \([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Dan, 

Yes, you can adjust the retry times on the SMTP process tries before 
returning to sender and on the Queue Manager process retry time.  Tries 
before returning to sender * retry = length of time you will attempt 
delivery of the mail. 

Hope that helps,
Darrell

Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for Declude And 
Imail.  IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, SURBL/URI integration, MRTG 
Integration, and Log Parsers. 

Dan Geiser writes: 

Hello, All,
I had a question about IMail. 

We do store and forward spam filtering for a lot of customers.  If a
customer's incoming SMTP server is down, e.g. because of a power outage,
IMail will only try 20 times before returning the messages to the sender.
This equates to about 10 hours.  Is there any way to lengthen the amount of
time or number of retries that IMail will attempt to resend Store and
Forwarded e-mail? 

Thanks In Advance,
Dan Geiser
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SpamCop listing AOL webmail servers

2005-02-28 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
Indeed.  Hypothetically, of course, one could do add these lines to a
filter:

#Sep-12-2003 AC The ISP everyone loves to hate, always has a weight of 8
due to NOABUSE:3 NOPOSTMASTER:3 IPNOTINMX:2
#Sep-23-2003And is always on someone's shit list; added another 10
to the counterweight
#Feb-28-2005 AC Updated the list of CIDR blocks via SenderBase.org and
split the weight between revdns and remoteip
REVDNS-9 ENDSWITH .mx.aol.com
REVDNS-9 ENDSWITH .webmail.aol.com
REMOTEIP  -9 CIDR 152.163.225.0/24
REMOTEIP  -9 CIDR 205.188.139.0/24
REMOTEIP  -9 CIDR 205.188.144.0/24
REMOTEIP  -9 CIDR 205.188.155.0/24
REMOTEIP  -9 CIDR 205.188.156.0/24
REMOTEIP  -9 CIDR 205.188.158.0/24
REMOTEIP  -9 CIDR 205.188.159.0/24
REMOTEIP  -9 CIDR 64.12.136.0/24
REMOTEIP  -9 CIDR 64.12.137.0/24
REMOTEIP  -9 CIDR 64.12.138.0/24

Of course, hypothetically speaking, one could also contrive a Scott
Fisher-esque TRUE-AOL test based entirely on his technique for his
TRUE-TLD tests, thus only rewarding messages with a negative weight if
the mailfrom and the revdns are both aol.com ...

Andrew 8)

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Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 11:02 AM
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Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SpamCop listing AOL webmail servers


 SpamCop and pretty well every other blacklisting service make no 
 allowance for how much good mail is coming from an IP address.  They 
 only do blacklisting.

I am not sure how many people actually do this, but I give a small
weight 
back to the message if it was truely sent from an AOL MX.  This helps
when 
specific AOL servers get listed in Spamcop.  To be honest I see very
little 
spam sent directly from AOL servers.  So this method of credit I have
been 
doing has never been a real problem. 

Darrell 

 

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Imail.  IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, SURBL/URI integration,
MRTG 
Integration, and Log Parsers. 


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SpamCop listing AOL webmail servers

2005-02-28 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
I also should have expounded more on my post.

The MX servers are not listed, rather the webmail servers are. Since I scan
2 hops, it is the 2nd hop that is getting hit on. 

What I have done for that is the following filter:

MAILFROM END NOTENDSWITH @aol.com
TESTSFAILED END NOTCONTAINS SPAMCOP
REVDNS -15 ENDSWITH .mx.aol.com

The -15 is counter weight for SPAMCOP which I only weigh at 15. (Hold at 25
delete at 35) 

John Tolmachoff
Engineer/Consultant/Owner
eServices For You


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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Colbeck, Andrew
 Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 9:37 AM
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SpamCop listing AOL webmail servers
 
 Well, John.  I'm sure that's a rhetorical question, but I'm feeling a
 little chatty while I listen to hold music.
 
 SpamCop and pretty well every other blacklisting service make no
 allowance for how much good mail is coming from an IP address.  They
 only do blacklisting.
 
 The funny thing is that since IronPort now owns SpamCop.net, you'd think
 that they could use the statistics that they expose at SenderBase.org to
 adjust the weighting mechanism that SpamCop uses.
 
 I'm sure that
 
 a) AOL isn't perfect, and spam does come from some accounts,
 b) Automated (and semi-automated) listing mechanisms like SpamCop will
 impede traffic
 c) AOL is the ISP that everyone loves to hate.  SpamCop users may well
 go ahead and
and report suspicious emails.
 d) Spam and virus blowblack needs to be carefully weeded out by ISPs so
 that they
don't get listed by sending unexpected responses to forged addresses.
 
 It's been said by wiser heads, but I'll say it again for folks without
 John's depth of experience:  Don't weigh individual tests high enough to
 be caught by a single false positive.  That likely means that you will
 get some spam in, but that's preferable to blocking mail that you
 shouldn't.
 
 I've been burned by multiple ip4r tests blocking ISPs, and have
 counterweighted those mail servers accordingly.  That also means that
 I'm more likely to get spam.
 
 I'll also add that false positives in blacklisting has made content
 inspection much more important to me.  Mail Sniffer from SortMonster.com
 helps me out a huge amount, and has taken away much of my burden for
 maintaining my own filter text files.
 
 A SURBL lookup like invIURIBL from invariantsystems.com or via
 spamassassin would certainly help out too (but I'm not there yet).
 
 Andrew 8)
 
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 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] SpamCop listing AOL webmail servers
 
 
 http://www.spamcop.net/bl.shtml?205.188.139.132
 
 WHY? (grumble mumble grumble ^%^$^*(^%^%^^)
 
 John Tolmachoff
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 eServices For You
 
 
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SpamCop listing AOL webmail servers

2005-02-28 Thread Dave Doherty
I do the same.
-d
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From: Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 2:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SpamCop listing AOL webmail servers


SpamCop and pretty well every other blacklisting service make no
allowance for how much good mail is coming from an IP address.  They
only do blacklisting.
I am not sure how many people actually do this, but I give a small weight 
back to the message if it was truely sent from an AOL MX.  This helps when 
specific AOL servers get listed in Spamcop.  To be honest I see very 
little spam sent directly from AOL servers.  So this method of credit I 
have been doing has never been a real problem.
Darrell

Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for Declude And 
Imail.  IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, SURBL/URI integration, 
MRTG Integration, and Log Parsers.

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[Declude.JunkMail] Junkmail Syntax

2005-02-28 Thread Kyle Fisher








In the Junkmail file you have DELETE, HOLD, WARN, IGNORE. 



What does IGNORE actually do?



Kyle








RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Junkmail Syntax

2005-02-28 Thread Kyle Fisher
Looking at the log it doesn't seem that way.  If you look at the header it
shows the same.

02/28/2005 15:00:19 Q865e00e001301b5a nIPNOTINMX:-3 nNOLEGITCONTENT:-5 .
Total weight = -8.
02/28/2005 15:00:19 Q865e00e001301b5a L1 Message OK
02/28/2005 15:00:19 Q865e00e001301b5a Subject: Read: [Fwd: FW: Applebees -
don't delete - enjoy]
02/28/2005 15:00:19 Q865e00e001301b5a From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  IP: 209.34.96.3 ID: 
02/28/2005 15:00:19 Q865e00e001301b5a Tests failed [weight=-8]:
CATCHALLMAILS=IGNORE 
02/28/2005 15:00:19 Q865e00e001301b5a Last action = IGNORE.

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([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 3:20 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Junkmail Syntax

It will do nothing other than log an entry to your log. 

Darrell
 
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Kyle Fisher writes: 

 In the Junkmail file you have DELETE, HOLD, WARN, IGNORE.  
 
   
 
 What does IGNORE actually do? 
 
   
 
 Kyle 
 
 

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Lengthening Time for Store and Forward Retry

2005-02-28 Thread Goran Jovanovic
Hi,

I know that all the retry info is in the Q*.SMD file. Can someone answer
a couple of things

QC:\IMail\spool\Da13385c70072c6c1.SMD
Hmail1.gonetworks.net
Ia13385c70072c6c1
T34
E0,
S[EMAIL PROTECTED]
X1
V0
NRCPT TO: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
R[EMAIL PROTECTED]

I have figured out some of it but what is T34, E0, X1 and V0. From what
I can see T34 is the retry number. Also how does IMail know when to rety
the message? I have turned off Failed Domain Skipping. Where is the next
retry time info kept?

Is there a document that describes all this?

Thanx
 
 
 Goran Jovanovic
 The LAN Shoppe

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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
 Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 1:29 PM
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Lengthening Time for Store and
Forward
 Retry
 
 Dan,
 
 Yes, you can adjust the retry times on the SMTP process tries before
 returning to sender and on the Queue Manager process retry time.
 Tries
 before returning to sender * retry = length of time you will
attempt
 delivery of the mail.
 
 Hope that helps,
 Darrell


 Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for Declude
And
 Imail.  IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, SURBL/URI
integration,
 MRTG
 Integration, and Log Parsers.
 
 
 Dan Geiser writes:
 
  Hello, All,
  I had a question about IMail.
 
  We do store and forward spam filtering for a lot of customers.  If a
  customer's incoming SMTP server is down, e.g. because of a power
outage,
  IMail will only try 20 times before returning the messages to the
 sender.
  This equates to about 10 hours.  Is there any way to lengthen the
amount
 of
  time or number of retries that IMail will attempt to resend Store
and
  Forwarded e-mail?
 
  Thanks In Advance,
  Dan Geiser
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Junkmail Syntax

2005-02-28 Thread Darrell \([EMAIL PROTECTED])
The message's last action is IGNORE which means it will be delivered.  
What are the actions set on the two tests it hit on?  If they are WARN 
then they will show in the headers. 

Darrell 

Kyle Fisher writes: 

Looking at the log it doesn't seem that way.  If you look at the header it
shows the same. 

02/28/2005 15:00:19 Q865e00e001301b5a nIPNOTINMX:-3 nNOLEGITCONTENT:-5 .
Total weight = -8.
02/28/2005 15:00:19 Q865e00e001301b5a L1 Message OK
02/28/2005 15:00:19 Q865e00e001301b5a Subject: Read: [Fwd: FW: Applebees -
don't delete - enjoy]
02/28/2005 15:00:19 Q865e00e001301b5a From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  IP: 209.34.96.3 ID: 
02/28/2005 15:00:19 Q865e00e001301b5a Tests failed [weight=-8]:
CATCHALLMAILS=IGNORE 
02/28/2005 15:00:19 Q865e00e001301b5a Last action = IGNORE. 

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Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Junkmail Syntax 

It will do nothing other than log an entry to your log.  

Darrell
 
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Kyle Fisher writes:  

In the Junkmail file you have DELETE, HOLD, WARN, IGNORE.   

   

What does IGNORE actually do?  

   

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Lengthening Time for Store and Forward Retry

2005-02-28 Thread Darrell \([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Here is a KB article that covers them 

http://support.ipswitch.com/kb/IM-20030324-DM01.htm 

Darrell 

Goran Jovanovic writes: 

Hi, 

I know that all the retry info is in the Q*.SMD file. Can someone answer
a couple of things 

QC:\IMail\spool\Da13385c70072c6c1.SMD
Hmail1.gonetworks.net
Ia13385c70072c6c1
T34
E0,
S[EMAIL PROTECTED]
X1
V0
NRCPT TO: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
R[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

I have figured out some of it but what is T34, E0, X1 and V0. From what
I can see T34 is the retry number. Also how does IMail know when to rety
the message? I have turned off Failed Domain Skipping. Where is the next
retry time info kept? 

Is there a document that describes all this? 

Thanx
 
 
 Goran Jovanovic
 The LAN Shoppe 

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Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 1:29 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Lengthening Time for Store and
Forward
Retry 

Dan, 

Yes, you can adjust the retry times on the SMTP process tries before
returning to sender and on the Queue Manager process retry time.
Tries
before returning to sender * retry = length of time you will
attempt
delivery of the mail. 

Hope that helps,
Darrell 


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And
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MRTG
Integration, and Log Parsers. 

Dan Geiser writes: 

 Hello, All,
 I had a question about IMail.

 We do store and forward spam filtering for a lot of customers.  If a
 customer's incoming SMTP server is down, e.g. because of a power
outage,
 IMail will only try 20 times before returning the messages to the
sender.
 This equates to about 10 hours.  Is there any way to lengthen the
amount
of
 time or number of retries that IMail will attempt to resend Store
and
 Forwarded e-mail?

 Thanks In Advance,
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Junkmail Syntax

2005-02-28 Thread Kyle Fisher
Right now I am not hiding any tests.  I have IPNOTINMX -3 and 
NOLEGITCONTENT -5 set to ignore (default when I purchased Declude). 

In the sample below you can see where it has a negative weight of 8 and the
header shows the same, but they are set to ignore.  I have more samples
where it might have only failed sniffer (weight 8) and in the header it
shows total weight 5 but you will see nolegitcontent in the header too.






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([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 3:35 PM
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Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Junkmail Syntax

The message's last action is IGNORE which means it will be delivered.  
What are the actions set on the two tests it hit on?  If they are WARN 
then they will show in the headers. 

Darrell 

Kyle Fisher writes: 

 Looking at the log it doesn't seem that way.  If you look at the header it
 shows the same. 
 
 02/28/2005 15:00:19 Q865e00e001301b5a nIPNOTINMX:-3 nNOLEGITCONTENT:-5 .
 Total weight = -8.
 02/28/2005 15:00:19 Q865e00e001301b5a L1 Message OK
 02/28/2005 15:00:19 Q865e00e001301b5a Subject: Read: [Fwd: FW: Applebees -
 don't delete - enjoy]
 02/28/2005 15:00:19 Q865e00e001301b5a From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]  IP: 209.34.96.3 ID: 
 02/28/2005 15:00:19 Q865e00e001301b5a Tests failed [weight=-8]:
 CATCHALLMAILS=IGNORE 
 02/28/2005 15:00:19 Q865e00e001301b5a Last action = IGNORE. 
 
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 It will do nothing other than log an entry to your log.  
 
 Darrell
  
 Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for Declude And 
 Imail.  IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, SURBL/URI integration,
MRTG 
 
 Integration, and Log Parsers.  
 
 
 Kyle Fisher writes:  
 
 In the Junkmail file you have DELETE, HOLD, WARN, IGNORE.   
 

 
 What does IGNORE actually do?  
 

 
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Lengthening Time for Store and Forward Retry

2005-02-28 Thread Goran Jovanovic
Thanx Darrell,

The document does not cover how IMail knows when to retry, when does the
30 minute (or whatever) retry counter run out.

Do you know where that info is? Does not seem to be in the Q file

 
 
 
 Goran Jovanovic
 The LAN Shoppe

 

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
 Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 4:36 PM
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Lengthening Time for Store and
Forward
 Retry
 
 Here is a KB article that covers them
 
 http://support.ipswitch.com/kb/IM-20030324-DM01.htm
 
 Darrell
 
 Goran Jovanovic writes:
 
  Hi,
 
  I know that all the retry info is in the Q*.SMD file. Can someone
answer
  a couple of things
 
  QC:\IMail\spool\Da13385c70072c6c1.SMD
  Hmail1.gonetworks.net
  Ia13385c70072c6c1
  T34
  E0,
  S[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  X1
  V0
  NRCPT TO: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  R[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  I have figured out some of it but what is T34, E0, X1 and V0. From
what
  I can see T34 is the retry number. Also how does IMail know when to
rety
  the message? I have turned off Failed Domain Skipping. Where is the
next
  retry time info kept?
 
  Is there a document that describes all this?
 
  Thanx
 
 
   Goran Jovanovic
   The LAN Shoppe
 
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  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darrell
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 1:29 PM
  To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
  Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Lengthening Time for Store and
  Forward
  Retry
 
  Dan,
 
  Yes, you can adjust the retry times on the SMTP process tries
before
  returning to sender and on the Queue Manager process retry time.
  Tries
  before returning to sender * retry = length of time you will
  attempt
  delivery of the mail.
 
  Hope that helps,
  Darrell
 
 

  Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for Declude
  And
  Imail.  IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, SURBL/URI
  integration,
  MRTG
  Integration, and Log Parsers.
 
 
  Dan Geiser writes:
 
   Hello, All,
   I had a question about IMail.
  
   We do store and forward spam filtering for a lot of customers.
If a
   customer's incoming SMTP server is down, e.g. because of a power
  outage,
   IMail will only try 20 times before returning the messages to the
  sender.
   This equates to about 10 hours.  Is there any way to lengthen the
  amount
  of
   time or number of retries that IMail will attempt to resend Store
  and
   Forwarded e-mail?
  
   Thanks In Advance,
   Dan Geiser
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  
  
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Lengthening Time for Store and Forward Retry

2005-02-28 Thread Dan Horne
I believe that Imail doesn't keep a retry timer per message, but
instead simply attempts to process every message in the queue at each
queue run, which is every 30 min by default.  If the T line equals the
retry limit it creates a postmaster message and deletes the message.

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Goran Jovanovic
Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 4:58 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Lengthening Time for Store and
Forward Retry

Thanx Darrell,

The document does not cover how IMail knows when to retry, when does the
30 minute (or whatever) retry counter run out.

Do you know where that info is? Does not seem to be in the Q file

 
 
 
 Goran Jovanovic
 The LAN Shoppe

 

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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
 Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 4:36 PM
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Lengthening Time for Store and
Forward
 Retry
 
 Here is a KB article that covers them
 
 http://support.ipswitch.com/kb/IM-20030324-DM01.htm
 
 Darrell
 
 Goran Jovanovic writes:
 
  Hi,
 
  I know that all the retry info is in the Q*.SMD file. Can someone
answer
  a couple of things
 
  QC:\IMail\spool\Da13385c70072c6c1.SMD
  Hmail1.gonetworks.net
  Ia13385c70072c6c1
  T34
  E0,
  S[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  X1
  V0
  NRCPT TO: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  R[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  I have figured out some of it but what is T34, E0, X1 and V0. From
what
  I can see T34 is the retry number. Also how does IMail know when to
rety
  the message? I have turned off Failed Domain Skipping. Where is the
next
  retry time info kept?
 
  Is there a document that describes all this?
 
  Thanx
 
 
   Goran Jovanovic
   The LAN Shoppe
 
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  [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darrell
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 1:29 PM
  To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
  Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Lengthening Time for Store and
  Forward
  Retry
 
  Dan,
 
  Yes, you can adjust the retry times on the SMTP process tries
before
  returning to sender and on the Queue Manager process retry time.
  Tries
  before returning to sender * retry = length of time you will
  attempt
  delivery of the mail.
 
  Hope that helps,
  Darrell
 
 

  Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for Declude
  And
  Imail.  IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, SURBL/URI
  integration,
  MRTG
  Integration, and Log Parsers.
 
 
  Dan Geiser writes:
 
   Hello, All,
   I had a question about IMail.
  
   We do store and forward spam filtering for a lot of customers.
If a
   customer's incoming SMTP server is down, e.g. because of a power
  outage,
   IMail will only try 20 times before returning the messages to the
  sender.
   This equates to about 10 hours.  Is there any way to lengthen the
  amount
  of
   time or number of retries that IMail will attempt to resend Store
  and
   Forwarded e-mail?
  
   Thanks In Advance,
   Dan Geiser
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  
  
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[Declude.JunkMail] May be forged in the headers??

2005-02-28 Thread Goran Jovanovic
Hi,

I got this in a header and I do not understand what it means

Received: from tdwems02.thindata.net [64.34.54.13] by
mail1.gonetworks.net with ESMTP
  (SMTPD32-8.13) id A66F76C90074; Mon, 28 Feb 2005 16:00:31 -0500
Received: from TDWCON01 (tdwcon01.thindata.net [64.34.54.8] (may be
forged))
by tdwems02.thindata.net (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id
j1SKxErl024527
for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 28 Feb 2005 16:00:30 -0500

What does the (may be forged) mean?

If I look up the REVDNS record I get this

Answer:
64.34.54.8 PTR record: tdwcon01.thindata.net. [TTL 14400s]
[A=64.34.54.8]

This is the same as what is reported. 
 
Thanx
 
 Goran Jovanovic
 The LAN Shoppe
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Lengthening Time for Store and Forward Retry

2005-02-28 Thread Goran Jovanovic
Ahh so every Q*.SMD is attempted to be reprocessed at the Queue run
time. Well that makes it easier on the programming.

Thanx

 
 
 
 Goran Jovanovic
 The LAN Shoppe

 

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Horne
 Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 5:08 PM
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Lengthening Time for Store and
Forward
 Retry
 
 I believe that Imail doesn't keep a retry timer per message, but
 instead simply attempts to process every message in the queue at each
 queue run, which is every 30 min by default.  If the T line equals the
 retry limit it creates a postmaster message and deletes the message.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Goran
Jovanovic
 Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 4:58 PM
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Lengthening Time for Store and
 Forward Retry
 
 Thanx Darrell,
 
 The document does not cover how IMail knows when to retry, when does
the
 30 minute (or whatever) retry counter run out.
 
 Do you know where that info is? Does not seem to be in the Q file
 
 
 
 
  Goran Jovanovic
  The LAN Shoppe
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darrell
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 4:36 PM
  To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
  Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Lengthening Time for Store and
 Forward
  Retry
 
  Here is a KB article that covers them
 
  http://support.ipswitch.com/kb/IM-20030324-DM01.htm
 
  Darrell
 
  Goran Jovanovic writes:
 
   Hi,
  
   I know that all the retry info is in the Q*.SMD file. Can someone
 answer
   a couple of things
  
   QC:\IMail\spool\Da13385c70072c6c1.SMD
   Hmail1.gonetworks.net
   Ia13385c70072c6c1
   T34
   E0,
   S[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   X1
   V0
   NRCPT TO: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   R[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
   I have figured out some of it but what is T34, E0, X1 and V0. From
 what
   I can see T34 is the retry number. Also how does IMail know when
to
 rety
   the message? I have turned off Failed Domain Skipping. Where is
the
 next
   retry time info kept?
  
   Is there a document that describes all this?
  
   Thanx
  
  
Goran Jovanovic
The LAN Shoppe
  
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   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darrell
 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
   Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 1:29 PM
   To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
   Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Lengthening Time for Store
and
   Forward
   Retry
  
   Dan,
  
   Yes, you can adjust the retry times on the SMTP process tries
 before
   returning to sender and on the Queue Manager process retry
time.
   Tries
   before returning to sender * retry = length of time you will
   attempt
   delivery of the mail.
  
   Hope that helps,
   Darrell
  
  


   Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for
Declude
   And
   Imail.  IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, SURBL/URI
   integration,
   MRTG
   Integration, and Log Parsers.
  
  
   Dan Geiser writes:
  
Hello, All,
I had a question about IMail.
   
We do store and forward spam filtering for a lot of customers.
 If a
customer's incoming SMTP server is down, e.g. because of a
power
   outage,
IMail will only try 20 times before returning the messages to
the
   sender.
This equates to about 10 hours.  Is there any way to lengthen
the
   amount
   of
time or number of retries that IMail will attempt to resend
Store
   and
Forwarded e-mail?
   
Thanks In Advance,
Dan Geiser
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