[Declude.JunkMail] Need help in setting up filter please

2008-04-08 Thread Ferrell Ard
We are getting a lot of email that has the code for character set
in the  From

The from always starts with =?koi8-r?

Does anyone have a filter that might help me eliminate these.

From: =?koi8-r?B?8dLP08zB1yD30d7F08zB18/Xyd4=?= xqs

Thanks very much
Ferrell

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Need help in setting up filter please

2008-04-08 Thread David Barker
You can use the settings in Declude.cfg to stop certain character sets.

 

David B

 

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Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Need help in setting up filter please

 

We are getting a lot of email that has the code for character set

in the  From

 

The from always starts with =?koi8-r?

 

Does anyone have a filter that might help me eliminate these.

 

From: =?koi8-r?B?8dLP08zB1yD30d7F08zB18/Xyd4=?= xqs

 

Thanks very much

Ferrell


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Filters not triggering - David Barker

2008-04-08 Thread David Barker
The expression I gave you does match on (discount. Coupon) in 85% discount.
Coupon #zH5d

If it is not triggering you may have a different issue. As for the subject
you are describing I use the following:


SUBJECT 7   PCRE (?i:\d\d%.{0,10} discount.{0,10}#[a-z]{3,5})
BODY5   PCRE (?i:google.{3,10}pagead/iclk)




-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave
Beckstrom
Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 8:58 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Filters not triggering - David Barker

David,

I implemented your regular expression in the filter and a spam skated right
through (filter did not trigger) with the following subject line:

85% discount. Coupon #zH5d

Dave

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David
 Barker
 Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 2:14 PM
 To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Filters not triggering
 
 Spaces before the phrase are not used as the line is normalized. Also the
 regular CONTAINS is not case sensitive.
 
 It would be better to use
 
 SUBJECT   0   PCRE(?i:(discount|off).{0,2}Co(upon|de))
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave
 Beckstrom
 Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 2:42 PM
 To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Filters not triggering
 
 Hi Everyone.
 
 I have a filter set up to delete an email if the subject line contains the
 keyword in the filter.  For some odd reason, the filter is not triggering
 and it really has me baffled.  I could use some suggestions on this one.
 
 The filter is called:   Filter_Subject_delete.txt
 
 Here are the relevant lines from the filter:
 
 
 SUBJECT   0   containsdiscount. Code
 SUBJECT   0   containsdiscount.Code
 SUBJECT   0   containsdiscount. coupon
 SUBJECT   0   contains discount. Coupon
 SUBJECT   0   containsdiscount.coupon
 SUBJECT   0   containsdiscount.Coupon
 SUBJECT   0   containsoff .code
 
 As you can see, I added some filter lines to test to see if I was running
 into an issue with the filter not triggering due to case sensitivity.  I
 didn't think the filters were case sensitive, but in trying to debug this
 problem I checked to see if that was an issue or not.
 
 
 My junkmail config has the following specifying to delete the spam:
 
 Filter_Subject_Delete DELETE
 
 
 
 
 Here are the headers from the spam that was not deleted:
 
 
 
 
 
 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Apr 07 08:49:57 2008
 Received: from 224samana75.codetel.net.do [200.88.75.224] by my.server.com
 with SMTP;
Mon, 7 Apr 2008 08:49:57 -0500
 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 From: brit luc [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [SPAM]- Score (11)81% discount. Coupon #2IJk
 Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2008 12:34:28 +
 MIME-Version: 1.0
 Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
   boundary==_NextPart_000_0007_01C898BA.05CF202E
 X-Priority: 3
 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138
 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198
 X-invURIBL-Scan: Scanned by invURIBL 3.1.1 on 4/7/2008 8:50:18 AM
 X-invURIBL-Weight: 0
 X-invURIBL-Range: CLEAN
 X-RBL-Warning: SPAMCOP: Blocked - see
 http://www.spamcop.net/bl.shtml?200.88.75.224;
 X-RBL-Warning: SPFUNKNOWN: SPF returned UNKNOWN for this E-mail.
 X-RBL-Warning: Filter_Country: Message failed Filter_Country test (line
59,
 weight 3)
 X-Declude-RefID:
 X-Note: 
 X-Note: Spam Score: [11]
 X-Note: Scan Time: 08:50:19 on 07 Apr 2008
 X-Note: Spool File: 35052863.eml
 X-Note: Server Name: 224samana75.codetel.net.do
 X-Note: SMTP Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 X-Note: Reverse DNS  IP: 224samana75.codetel.net.do [200.88.75.224]
 X-Note: Recipient(s): [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 X-Note: Country Chain: DOMINICAN REPUBLIC-destination
 X-Note: Failed Weights: SPAMCOP [7], SPFUNKNOWN [1], Filter_Country [3],
 WEIGHT10 [10]
 X-Note: 
 
 
 
 Where it says my.server.com and my.address.com is where I edited info I
 didn't want posted to the list.
 
 
 Here is the Declude log entries from when the email was scanned:
 
 
 04/07/2008 08:50:03.527 35052863.eml CFG: Bypassing IP 127.0.0.1.
 04/07/2008 08:50:03.527 35052863.eml CFG: Set hop to 0.
 04/07/2008 08:50:03.527 35052863.eml STOPPROCESSINGONFIRSTDELETE: Set to
 ON
 
 
 04/07/2008 08:50:10.746 35052863 Last line of headers checking for
Recived:
 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198
 04/07/2008 08:50:10.746 35052863 About to run spam tests
 
 04/07/2008 08:50:18.980 35052863 JunkMailBase64 Start
 04/07/2008 08:50:18.980 35052863 JunkMailBase64 Start
 04/07/2008 08:50:18.980 35052863 DeHTML End: 495:367 ratio=0.425754
 04/07/2008 08:50:19.011 35052863 Doing filter file
 

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Filters not triggering - David Barker

2008-04-08 Thread Dave Beckstrom
Hi David,

The filter is not triggering.  That IS the issue I am reporting!  I provided
log snippets showing that the filter does run, but is not triggering.  This
is the problem I'm requesting help with.

Dave



 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David
 Barker
 Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 9:11 AM
 To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Filters not triggering - David Barker
 
 The expression I gave you does match on (discount. Coupon) in 85%
discount.
 Coupon #zH5d
 
 If it is not triggering you may have a different issue. As for the subject
 you are describing I use the following:
 
 
 SUBJECT   7   PCRE (?i:\d\d%.{0,10}
discount.{0,10}#[a-z]{3,5})
 BODY  5   PCRE (?i:google.{3,10}pagead/iclk)
 
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave
 Beckstrom
 Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 8:58 PM
 To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Filters not triggering - David Barker
 
 David,
 
 I implemented your regular expression in the filter and a spam skated
right
 through (filter did not trigger) with the following subject line:
 
 85% discount. Coupon #zH5d
 
 Dave
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
David
  Barker
  Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 2:14 PM
  To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
  Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Filters not triggering
 
  Spaces before the phrase are not used as the line is normalized. Also
the
  regular CONTAINS is not case sensitive.
 
  It would be better to use
 
  SUBJECT 0   PCRE(?i:(discount|off).{0,2}Co(upon|de))
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave
  Beckstrom
  Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 2:42 PM
  To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
  Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Filters not triggering
 
  Hi Everyone.
 
  I have a filter set up to delete an email if the subject line contains
the
  keyword in the filter.  For some odd reason, the filter is not
triggering
  and it really has me baffled.  I could use some suggestions on this one.
 
  The filter is called:   Filter_Subject_delete.txt
 
  Here are the relevant lines from the filter:
 
 
  SUBJECT   0 containsdiscount. Code
  SUBJECT   0 containsdiscount.Code
  SUBJECT   0 containsdiscount. coupon
  SUBJECT   0 contains discount. Coupon
  SUBJECT   0 containsdiscount.coupon
  SUBJECT   0 containsdiscount.Coupon
  SUBJECT   0 containsoff .code
 
  As you can see, I added some filter lines to test to see if I was
running
  into an issue with the filter not triggering due to case sensitivity.  I
  didn't think the filters were case sensitive, but in trying to debug
this
  problem I checked to see if that was an issue or not.
 
 
  My junkmail config has the following specifying to delete the spam:
 
  Filter_Subject_Delete   DELETE
 
 
 
 
  Here are the headers from the spam that was not deleted:
 
 
 
 
 
  Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Apr 07 08:49:57 2008
  Received: from 224samana75.codetel.net.do [200.88.75.224] by
my.server.com
  with SMTP;
 Mon, 7 Apr 2008 08:49:57 -0500
  Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  From: brit luc [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: [SPAM]- Score (11)81% discount. Coupon #2IJk
  Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2008 12:34:28 +
  MIME-Version: 1.0
  Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
  boundary==_NextPart_000_0007_01C898BA.05CF202E
  X-Priority: 3
  X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
  X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138
  X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198
  X-invURIBL-Scan: Scanned by invURIBL 3.1.1 on 4/7/2008 8:50:18 AM
  X-invURIBL-Weight: 0
  X-invURIBL-Range: CLEAN
  X-RBL-Warning: SPAMCOP: Blocked - see
  http://www.spamcop.net/bl.shtml?200.88.75.224;
  X-RBL-Warning: SPFUNKNOWN: SPF returned UNKNOWN for this E-mail.
  X-RBL-Warning: Filter_Country: Message failed Filter_Country test (line
 59,
  weight 3)
  X-Declude-RefID:
  X-Note: 
  X-Note: Spam Score: [11]
  X-Note: Scan Time: 08:50:19 on 07 Apr 2008
  X-Note: Spool File: 35052863.eml
  X-Note: Server Name: 224samana75.codetel.net.do
  X-Note: SMTP Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  X-Note: Reverse DNS  IP: 224samana75.codetel.net.do [200.88.75.224]
  X-Note: Recipient(s): [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  X-Note: Country Chain: DOMINICAN REPUBLIC-destination
  X-Note: Failed Weights: SPAMCOP [7], SPFUNKNOWN [1], Filter_Country [3],
  WEIGHT10 [10]
  X-Note: 
 
 
 
  Where it says my.server.com and my.address.com is where I edited info I
  didn't want posted to the list.
 
 
  Here is the Declude log entries from when the email was scanned:
 
 
  04/07/2008 08:50:03.527 35052863.eml 

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Filters not triggering - David Barker

2008-04-08 Thread David Barker
Dave,

Do you have a ticket number ? if so email me so I can follow up on the
ticket for you - this needs to be addressed with support, not on the lists.

Thanks
David B

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave
Beckstrom
Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 11:32 AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Filters not triggering - David Barker

Hi David,

The filter is not triggering.  That IS the issue I am reporting!  I provided
log snippets showing that the filter does run, but is not triggering.  This
is the problem I'm requesting help with.

Dave



 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David
 Barker
 Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 9:11 AM
 To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Filters not triggering - David Barker
 
 The expression I gave you does match on (discount. Coupon) in 85%
discount.
 Coupon #zH5d
 
 If it is not triggering you may have a different issue. As for the subject
 you are describing I use the following:
 
 
 SUBJECT   7   PCRE (?i:\d\d%.{0,10}
discount.{0,10}#[a-z]{3,5})
 BODY  5   PCRE (?i:google.{3,10}pagead/iclk)
 
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave
 Beckstrom
 Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 8:58 PM
 To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Filters not triggering - David Barker
 
 David,
 
 I implemented your regular expression in the filter and a spam skated
right
 through (filter did not trigger) with the following subject line:
 
 85% discount. Coupon #zH5d
 
 Dave
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
David
  Barker
  Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 2:14 PM
  To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
  Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Filters not triggering
 
  Spaces before the phrase are not used as the line is normalized. Also
the
  regular CONTAINS is not case sensitive.
 
  It would be better to use
 
  SUBJECT 0   PCRE(?i:(discount|off).{0,2}Co(upon|de))
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave
  Beckstrom
  Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 2:42 PM
  To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
  Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Filters not triggering
 
  Hi Everyone.
 
  I have a filter set up to delete an email if the subject line contains
the
  keyword in the filter.  For some odd reason, the filter is not
triggering
  and it really has me baffled.  I could use some suggestions on this one.
 
  The filter is called:   Filter_Subject_delete.txt
 
  Here are the relevant lines from the filter:
 
 
  SUBJECT   0 containsdiscount. Code
  SUBJECT   0 containsdiscount.Code
  SUBJECT   0 containsdiscount. coupon
  SUBJECT   0 contains discount. Coupon
  SUBJECT   0 containsdiscount.coupon
  SUBJECT   0 containsdiscount.Coupon
  SUBJECT   0 containsoff .code
 
  As you can see, I added some filter lines to test to see if I was
running
  into an issue with the filter not triggering due to case sensitivity.  I
  didn't think the filters were case sensitive, but in trying to debug
this
  problem I checked to see if that was an issue or not.
 
 
  My junkmail config has the following specifying to delete the spam:
 
  Filter_Subject_Delete   DELETE
 
 
 
 
  Here are the headers from the spam that was not deleted:
 
 
 
 
 
  Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Apr 07 08:49:57 2008
  Received: from 224samana75.codetel.net.do [200.88.75.224] by
my.server.com
  with SMTP;
 Mon, 7 Apr 2008 08:49:57 -0500
  Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  From: brit luc [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: [SPAM]- Score (11)81% discount. Coupon #2IJk
  Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2008 12:34:28 +
  MIME-Version: 1.0
  Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
  boundary==_NextPart_000_0007_01C898BA.05CF202E
  X-Priority: 3
  X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
  X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138
  X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198
  X-invURIBL-Scan: Scanned by invURIBL 3.1.1 on 4/7/2008 8:50:18 AM
  X-invURIBL-Weight: 0
  X-invURIBL-Range: CLEAN
  X-RBL-Warning: SPAMCOP: Blocked - see
  http://www.spamcop.net/bl.shtml?200.88.75.224;
  X-RBL-Warning: SPFUNKNOWN: SPF returned UNKNOWN for this E-mail.
  X-RBL-Warning: Filter_Country: Message failed Filter_Country test (line
 59,
  weight 3)
  X-Declude-RefID:
  X-Note: 
  X-Note: Spam Score: [11]
  X-Note: Scan Time: 08:50:19 on 07 Apr 2008
  X-Note: Spool File: 35052863.eml
  X-Note: Server Name: 224samana75.codetel.net.do
  X-Note: SMTP Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  X-Note: Reverse DNS  IP: 224samana75.codetel.net.do [200.88.75.224]
  X-Note: Recipient(s): [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Filters not triggering - David Barker

2008-04-08 Thread Dave Beckstrom
Hi David,


Let's hold off for a bit.   I just discovered that when I added the filter
you provided that it did not actually save the edit.  I'm working remotely
on the server and I'm guessing the save command never made it to the server.


Before I cry wolf I need to make sure it wasn't a stupid user error.  :)

Thanks,

Dave



 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David
 Barker
 Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 10:48 AM
 To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Filters not triggering - David Barker
 
 Dave,
 
 Do you have a ticket number ? if so email me so I can follow up on the
 ticket for you - this needs to be addressed with support, not on the
lists.
 
 Thanks
 David B
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave
 Beckstrom
 Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 11:32 AM
 To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Filters not triggering - David Barker
 
 Hi David,
 
 The filter is not triggering.  That IS the issue I am reporting!  I
provided
 log snippets showing that the filter does run, but is not triggering.
This
 is the problem I'm requesting help with.
 
 Dave
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
David
  Barker
  Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 9:11 AM
  To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
  Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Filters not triggering - David Barker
 
  The expression I gave you does match on (discount. Coupon) in 85%
 discount.
  Coupon #zH5d
 
  If it is not triggering you may have a different issue. As for the
subject
  you are describing I use the following:
 
 
  SUBJECT 7   PCRE (?i:\d\d%.{0,10}
 discount.{0,10}#[a-z]{3,5})
  BODY5   PCRE (?i:google.{3,10}pagead/iclk)
 
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave
  Beckstrom
  Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 8:58 PM
  To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
  Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Filters not triggering - David Barker
 
  David,
 
  I implemented your regular expression in the filter and a spam skated
 right
  through (filter did not trigger) with the following subject line:
 
  85% discount. Coupon #zH5d
 
  Dave
 
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
 David
   Barker
   Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 2:14 PM
   To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
   Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Filters not triggering
  
   Spaces before the phrase are not used as the line is normalized. Also
 the
   regular CONTAINS is not case sensitive.
  
   It would be better to use
  
   SUBJECT   0   PCRE(?i:(discount|off).{0,2}Co(upon|de))
  
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Dave
   Beckstrom
   Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 2:42 PM
   To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
   Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Filters not triggering
  
   Hi Everyone.
  
   I have a filter set up to delete an email if the subject line contains
 the
   keyword in the filter.  For some odd reason, the filter is not
 triggering
   and it really has me baffled.  I could use some suggestions on this
one.
  
   The filter is called:   Filter_Subject_delete.txt
  
   Here are the relevant lines from the filter:
  
  
   SUBJECT   0   containsdiscount. Code
   SUBJECT   0   containsdiscount.Code
   SUBJECT   0   containsdiscount. coupon
   SUBJECT   0   contains discount. Coupon
   SUBJECT   0   containsdiscount.coupon
   SUBJECT   0   containsdiscount.Coupon
   SUBJECT   0   containsoff .code
  
   As you can see, I added some filter lines to test to see if I was
 running
   into an issue with the filter not triggering due to case sensitivity.
I
   didn't think the filters were case sensitive, but in trying to debug
 this
   problem I checked to see if that was an issue or not.
  
  
   My junkmail config has the following specifying to delete the spam:
  
   Filter_Subject_Delete DELETE
  
  
  
  
   Here are the headers from the spam that was not deleted:
  
  
  
  
  
   Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Apr 07 08:49:57 2008
   Received: from 224samana75.codetel.net.do [200.88.75.224] by
 my.server.com
   with SMTP;
  Mon, 7 Apr 2008 08:49:57 -0500
   Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   From: brit luc [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: [SPAM]- Score (11)81% discount. Coupon #2IJk
   Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2008 12:34:28 +
   MIME-Version: 1.0
   Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
 boundary==_NextPart_000_0007_01C898BA.05CF202E
   X-Priority: 3
   X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
   X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138
   X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198
   X-invURIBL-Scan: Scanned by invURIBL 3.1.1 on 

[Declude.JunkMail] Need strategy to up score.

2008-04-08 Thread Robert Grosshandler
Hi

We're getting spam that comes via Yahoo, looks good (but it isn't).  We'd
like to up the score it receives, so it won't get passed through.  We use
Sniffer/Declude/Inviurbl.

We're almost always Bcc'd.
Sometimes fails Sniffer, sometimes not (we've got a query into them, too.)
Doesn't always fail zerohour.
Always seems to be complete gobbledygook, plus a URL that looks like it is
well formed (and doesn't fail inviurbl test.)
Always seem to come via mud.yahoo.com (but so does legit email.)

Headers follow, thanks for any advice.



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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Need strategy to up score.

2008-04-08 Thread David Barker
We're almost always Bcc'd   

Consider using BCC

This test will catch E-mail that has a lot of local recipients that are not
listed in the E-mail headers. This test is normally only used in advanced
setups, as most mailing list E-mail has many recipients not listed in the
headers.

BCC BCC 3   x   6   0

Where 3 is the number of BCC recipients and 6 is the weight given.

David B


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert
Grosshandler
Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 12:27 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Need strategy to up score.

Hi

We're getting spam that comes via Yahoo, looks good (but it isn't).  We'd
like to up the score it receives, so it won't get passed through.  We use
Sniffer/Declude/Inviurbl.

We're almost always Bcc'd.
Sometimes fails Sniffer, sometimes not (we've got a query into them, too.)
Doesn't always fail zerohour.
Always seems to be complete gobbledygook, plus a URL that looks like it is
well formed (and doesn't fail inviurbl test.)
Always seem to come via mud.yahoo.com (but so does legit email.)

Headers follow, thanks for any advice.



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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Need strategy to up score.

2008-04-08 Thread Robert Grosshandler
Hi

To be clear, local means my domain(s), not folks in some other domain,
correct?

Thanks ahead of time.

Rob

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David
Barker
Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 12:34 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Need strategy to up score.

We're almost always Bcc'd   

Consider using BCC

This test will catch E-mail that has a lot of local recipients that are not
listed in the E-mail headers. This test is normally only used in advanced
setups, as most mailing list E-mail has many recipients not listed in the
headers.

BCC BCC 3   x   6   0

Where 3 is the number of BCC recipients and 6 is the weight given.

David B


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert
Grosshandler
Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 12:27 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Need strategy to up score.

Hi

We're getting spam that comes via Yahoo, looks good (but it isn't).  We'd
like to up the score it receives, so it won't get passed through.  We use
Sniffer/Declude/Inviurbl.

We're almost always Bcc'd.
Sometimes fails Sniffer, sometimes not (we've got a query into them, too.)
Doesn't always fail zerohour.
Always seems to be complete gobbledygook, plus a URL that looks like it is
well formed (and doesn't fail inviurbl test.)
Always seem to come via mud.yahoo.com (but so does legit email.)

Headers follow, thanks for any advice.



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