RE: [Declude.JunkMail] BackScatter

2009-05-18 Thread David Barker
Hi Todd, Alligate has way better greylisting capabilities than SmarterMail. SmarterMails implementation is somewhat dangerous. You need to be able to accurately qualify which messages should be greylisted. Alligate is the only greylisting implementation that does this. I don't believe you

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] BackScatter

2009-05-18 Thread Dan Shadix
We've been running Declude Interceptor for a few months now and I agree completely with David's comments. It has been great and the transition was very easy. Dan From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of David Barker Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 1:04 PM To:

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] BackScatter

2009-05-18 Thread Robert Grosshandler
From what I read, Interceptor (which we tried in its earlier incarnation, eons ago) doesn't include the Hijack functionality (the design wouldn't support it.) Rob From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of Dan Shadix Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 3:15 PM To:

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] BackScatter

2009-05-18 Thread David Barker
That is correct, as Interceptor is a Gateway and runs outside the server as opposed to inside the mail server. Declude Hijack is not supported with Interceptor. From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of Robert Grosshandler Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 4:32 PM To:

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] BackScatter

2009-05-18 Thread Nick Hayer
Todd - I will second David on this - Alligate is the best gateway - no question about it - and it does integrate perfectly with Declude. -Nick David Barker wrote: Hi Todd, Alligate has way better greylisting capabilities than SmarterMail. SmarterMails implementation is somewhat

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] BackScatter

2009-05-18 Thread Michael Graveen
Hi David, Can you elaborate on why SmarterMail's greylisting is dangerous? In SmarterMail all mail gets greylisted until it passes. When it passes subsequent email get's whitelisted (for a period of time). There is a greylist exclusion list for mail server that are known not play well. How

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] BackScatter

2009-05-18 Thread SpamManager
I might add that the Interceptor front end (Alligate) does have some capabilities in this area. I am not really familiar with Hijack myself, but Alligate tracks volume from every senders IP address regardless of whether the message is incoming or outgoing. You can, for example, limit messages from

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] BackScatter

2009-05-18 Thread SpamManager
Hi Mike, I can help with this. Greylisting it tremendously effective however it can cause a lot of problems if it is not done selectively. We worked closely with Matt Bramble and a few other Declude power users to develop ways to apply greylisting only when it is most likely to be beneficial.

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] BackScatter

2009-05-18 Thread Michael Graveen
Hi Brian, Thanks for the explanation. Mike Hi Mike, I can help with this. Greylisting it tremendously effective however it can cause a lot of problems if it is not done selectively. We worked closely with Matt Bramble and a few other Declude power