RE: [Declude.JunkMail] CommTouch ZeroHour
For what it's worth, after getting clarification from David yesterday, and an explanation on pricing, we added Commtouch immediately. Todd -Original Message- From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of Dean Lawrence Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 11:06 AM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] CommTouch ZeroHour Excellent. Thanks David On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 11:54 AM, David Barker wrote: >>>I simply host mailboxes for some of my development clients' domains. > > This is classified as a non-ISP and you can use Commtouch > > > David Barker > VP Operations Declude > Your Email security is our business > 978.499.2933 office > 978.988.1311 fax > dbar...@declude.com > > > > -Original Message- > From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of Dean > Lawrence > Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 11:50 AM > To: declude.junkmail@declude.com > Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] CommTouch ZeroHour > > Thanks David. I'm still a little confused though. I do not provide > Internet access for my clients, nor do I offer a clean and forward > option. I simply host mailboxes for some of my development clients' > domains. With this description, would CommTouch classify me as an ISP? > > Thanks, > > Dean > > On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 11:35 AM, David Barker wrote: >> Yes Internet access provider is a better description of ISP and how it is >> understood by Commtouch. >> >> David >> >> -Original Message- >> From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of Andy >> Schmidt >> Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 11:30 AM >> To: declude.junkmail@declude.com >> Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] CommTouch ZeroHour >> >> Uh - okay, that was the reason, why I wasn't able to purchase CommTouch > back >> when. >> >> As a hosting provider (which includes providing mailboxes for the clients' >> domains), that would fall under the umbrella "primary function is to > provide >> Internet service". >> >> If they would define ISP as Internet ACCESS provider - then this would be > a >> different story. Because we don't provide Internet access and our primary >> function is not clean-and-forward MX services. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of David >> Barker >> Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 10:49 AM >> To: declude.junkmail@declude.com >> Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] CommTouch ZeroHour >> >> Commtouch does have a restriction. The condition is: >> >> a. "ISP" shall mean an internet service provider or managed solution >> provider. >> >> What this means - if you are an ISP as defined by Commtouch, your primary >> function is to provide Internet service to your customers (like Comcast) > or >> your business provides managed services (Like MXlogic) clean-and-forward > of >> emails. >> >> Secondly, if your business is part of the ISP category you can use > Commtouch >> with the added cost of $3.60 per user per year. >> >> And finally, the yearly cost and payments to Commtouch for NON-ISP > perpetual >> license Declude customers is being absorbed by Declude. >> >> David Barker >> VP Operations Declude >> Your Email security is our business >> 978.499.2933 office >> 978.988.1311 fax >> dbar...@declude.com >> >> >> >> >> --- >> This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To >> unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and >> type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found >> at http://www.mail-archive.com. >> >> >> >> --- >> This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To >> unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and >> type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found >> at http://www.mail-archive.com. >> >> > > > > -- > __ > Dean Lawrence, CIO/Partner > Internet Data Technology > 888.GET.IDT1 ext. 701 * fax: 888.438.4381 > http://www.idatatech.com/ > Corporate Internet Development and Marketing Specialists > > > --- > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and > type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found > at http://www.mail-archive.com. > > > > --- > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and > type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found > at http://www.mail-archive.com. > > -- __ Dean Lawrence, CIO/Partner Internet Data Technology 888.GET.IDT1 ext. 701 * fax: 888.438.4381 http://www.idatatech.com/ Corporate Internet Development and Marketing Specialists --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] CommTouch ZeroHour
Excellent. Thanks David On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 11:54 AM, David Barker wrote: >>>I simply host mailboxes for some of my development clients' domains. > > This is classified as a non-ISP and you can use Commtouch > > > David Barker > VP Operations Declude > Your Email security is our business > 978.499.2933 office > 978.988.1311 fax > dbar...@declude.com > > > > -Original Message- > From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of Dean > Lawrence > Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 11:50 AM > To: declude.junkmail@declude.com > Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] CommTouch ZeroHour > > Thanks David. I'm still a little confused though. I do not provide > Internet access for my clients, nor do I offer a clean and forward > option. I simply host mailboxes for some of my development clients' > domains. With this description, would CommTouch classify me as an ISP? > > Thanks, > > Dean > > On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 11:35 AM, David Barker wrote: >> Yes Internet access provider is a better description of ISP and how it is >> understood by Commtouch. >> >> David >> >> -Original Message- >> From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of Andy >> Schmidt >> Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 11:30 AM >> To: declude.junkmail@declude.com >> Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] CommTouch ZeroHour >> >> Uh - okay, that was the reason, why I wasn't able to purchase CommTouch > back >> when. >> >> As a hosting provider (which includes providing mailboxes for the clients' >> domains), that would fall under the umbrella "primary function is to > provide >> Internet service". >> >> If they would define ISP as Internet ACCESS provider - then this would be > a >> different story. Because we don't provide Internet access and our primary >> function is not clean-and-forward MX services. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of David >> Barker >> Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 10:49 AM >> To: declude.junkmail@declude.com >> Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] CommTouch ZeroHour >> >> Commtouch does have a restriction. The condition is: >> >> a. "ISP" shall mean an internet service provider or managed solution >> provider. >> >> What this means - if you are an ISP as defined by Commtouch, your primary >> function is to provide Internet service to your customers (like Comcast) > or >> your business provides managed services (Like MXlogic) clean-and-forward > of >> emails. >> >> Secondly, if your business is part of the ISP category you can use > Commtouch >> with the added cost of $3.60 per user per year. >> >> And finally, the yearly cost and payments to Commtouch for NON-ISP > perpetual >> license Declude customers is being absorbed by Declude. >> >> David Barker >> VP Operations Declude >> Your Email security is our business >> 978.499.2933 office >> 978.988.1311 fax >> dbar...@declude.com >> >> >> >> >> --- >> This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To >> unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and >> type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found >> at http://www.mail-archive.com. >> >> >> >> --- >> This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To >> unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and >> type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found >> at http://www.mail-archive.com. >> >> > > > > -- > __ > Dean Lawrence, CIO/Partner > Internet Data Technology > 888.GET.IDT1 ext. 701 * fax: 888.438.4381 > http://www.idatatech.com/ > Corporate Internet Development and Marketing Specialists > > > --- > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and > type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found > at http://www.mail-archive.com. > > > > --- > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and > type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found > at http://www.mail-archive.com. > > -- __ Dean Lawrence, CIO/Partner Internet Data Technology 888.GET.IDT1 ext. 701 * fax: 888.438.4381 http://www.idatatech.com/ Corporate Internet Development and Marketing Specialists --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] CommTouch ZeroHour
For Legacy perpetual license Declude customers (defined as Non-ISP) activation of ZEROHOUR is $195.00 David -Original Message- From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of Andy Schmidt Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 11:53 AM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] CommTouch ZeroHour Oh? In that case - what's the purchase cost to add CommTouch to our account at this point? -Original Message- From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of David Barker Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 11:36 AM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] CommTouch ZeroHour Yes Internet access provider is a better description of ISP and how it is understood by Commtouch. David -Original Message- From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of Andy Schmidt Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 11:30 AM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] CommTouch ZeroHour Uh - okay, that was the reason, why I wasn't able to purchase CommTouch back when. As a hosting provider (which includes providing mailboxes for the clients' domains), that would fall under the umbrella "primary function is to provide Internet service". If they would define ISP as Internet ACCESS provider - then this would be a different story. Because we don't provide Internet access and our primary function is not clean-and-forward MX services. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] CommTouch ZeroHour
Oh? In that case - what's the purchase cost to add CommTouch to our account at this point? -Original Message- From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of David Barker Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 11:36 AM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] CommTouch ZeroHour Yes Internet access provider is a better description of ISP and how it is understood by Commtouch. David -Original Message- From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of Andy Schmidt Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 11:30 AM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] CommTouch ZeroHour Uh - okay, that was the reason, why I wasn't able to purchase CommTouch back when. As a hosting provider (which includes providing mailboxes for the clients' domains), that would fall under the umbrella "primary function is to provide Internet service". If they would define ISP as Internet ACCESS provider - then this would be a different story. Because we don't provide Internet access and our primary function is not clean-and-forward MX services. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] CommTouch ZeroHour
>>I simply host mailboxes for some of my development clients' domains. This is classified as a non-ISP and you can use Commtouch David Barker VP Operations Declude Your Email security is our business 978.499.2933 office 978.988.1311 fax dbar...@declude.com -Original Message- From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of Dean Lawrence Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 11:50 AM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] CommTouch ZeroHour Thanks David. I'm still a little confused though. I do not provide Internet access for my clients, nor do I offer a clean and forward option. I simply host mailboxes for some of my development clients' domains. With this description, would CommTouch classify me as an ISP? Thanks, Dean On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 11:35 AM, David Barker wrote: > Yes Internet access provider is a better description of ISP and how it is > understood by Commtouch. > > David > > -Original Message- > From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of Andy > Schmidt > Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 11:30 AM > To: declude.junkmail@declude.com > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] CommTouch ZeroHour > > Uh - okay, that was the reason, why I wasn't able to purchase CommTouch back > when. > > As a hosting provider (which includes providing mailboxes for the clients' > domains), that would fall under the umbrella "primary function is to provide > Internet service". > > If they would define ISP as Internet ACCESS provider - then this would be a > different story. Because we don't provide Internet access and our primary > function is not clean-and-forward MX services. > > -Original Message- > From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of David > Barker > Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 10:49 AM > To: declude.junkmail@declude.com > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] CommTouch ZeroHour > > Commtouch does have a restriction. The condition is: > > a. "ISP" shall mean an internet service provider or managed solution > provider. > > What this means - if you are an ISP as defined by Commtouch, your primary > function is to provide Internet service to your customers (like Comcast) or > your business provides managed services (Like MXlogic) clean-and-forward of > emails. > > Secondly, if your business is part of the ISP category you can use Commtouch > with the added cost of $3.60 per user per year. > > And finally, the yearly cost and payments to Commtouch for NON-ISP perpetual > license Declude customers is being absorbed by Declude. > > David Barker > VP Operations Declude > Your Email security is our business > 978.499.2933 office > 978.988.1311 fax > dbar...@declude.com > > > > > --- > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and > type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found > at http://www.mail-archive.com. > > > > --- > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and > type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found > at http://www.mail-archive.com. > > -- __ Dean Lawrence, CIO/Partner Internet Data Technology 888.GET.IDT1 ext. 701 * fax: 888.438.4381 http://www.idatatech.com/ Corporate Internet Development and Marketing Specialists --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] CommTouch ZeroHour
Thanks David. I'm still a little confused though. I do not provide Internet access for my clients, nor do I offer a clean and forward option. I simply host mailboxes for some of my development clients' domains. With this description, would CommTouch classify me as an ISP? Thanks, Dean On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 11:35 AM, David Barker wrote: > Yes Internet access provider is a better description of ISP and how it is > understood by Commtouch. > > David > > -Original Message- > From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of Andy > Schmidt > Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 11:30 AM > To: declude.junkmail@declude.com > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] CommTouch ZeroHour > > Uh - okay, that was the reason, why I wasn't able to purchase CommTouch back > when. > > As a hosting provider (which includes providing mailboxes for the clients' > domains), that would fall under the umbrella "primary function is to provide > Internet service". > > If they would define ISP as Internet ACCESS provider - then this would be a > different story. Because we don't provide Internet access and our primary > function is not clean-and-forward MX services. > > -Original Message- > From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of David > Barker > Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 10:49 AM > To: declude.junkmail@declude.com > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] CommTouch ZeroHour > > Commtouch does have a restriction. The condition is: > > a. "ISP" shall mean an internet service provider or managed solution > provider. > > What this means - if you are an ISP as defined by Commtouch, your primary > function is to provide Internet service to your customers (like Comcast) or > your business provides managed services (Like MXlogic) clean-and-forward of > emails. > > Secondly, if your business is part of the ISP category you can use Commtouch > with the added cost of $3.60 per user per year. > > And finally, the yearly cost and payments to Commtouch for NON-ISP perpetual > license Declude customers is being absorbed by Declude. > > David Barker > VP Operations Declude > Your Email security is our business > 978.499.2933 office > 978.988.1311 fax > dbar...@declude.com > > > > > --- > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and > type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found > at http://www.mail-archive.com. > > > > --- > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and > type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found > at http://www.mail-archive.com. > > -- __ Dean Lawrence, CIO/Partner Internet Data Technology 888.GET.IDT1 ext. 701 * fax: 888.438.4381 http://www.idatatech.com/ Corporate Internet Development and Marketing Specialists --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] CommTouch ZeroHour
Yes Internet access provider is a better description of ISP and how it is understood by Commtouch. David -Original Message- From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of Andy Schmidt Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 11:30 AM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] CommTouch ZeroHour Uh - okay, that was the reason, why I wasn't able to purchase CommTouch back when. As a hosting provider (which includes providing mailboxes for the clients' domains), that would fall under the umbrella "primary function is to provide Internet service". If they would define ISP as Internet ACCESS provider - then this would be a different story. Because we don't provide Internet access and our primary function is not clean-and-forward MX services. -Original Message- From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of David Barker Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 10:49 AM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] CommTouch ZeroHour Commtouch does have a restriction. The condition is: a. "ISP" shall mean an internet service provider or managed solution provider. What this means - if you are an ISP as defined by Commtouch, your primary function is to provide Internet service to your customers (like Comcast) or your business provides managed services (Like MXlogic) clean-and-forward of emails. Secondly, if your business is part of the ISP category you can use Commtouch with the added cost of $3.60 per user per year. And finally, the yearly cost and payments to Commtouch for NON-ISP perpetual license Declude customers is being absorbed by Declude. David Barker VP Operations Declude Your Email security is our business 978.499.2933 office 978.988.1311 fax dbar...@declude.com --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] CommTouch ZeroHour
Uh - okay, that was the reason, why I wasn't able to purchase CommTouch back when. As a hosting provider (which includes providing mailboxes for the clients' domains), that would fall under the umbrella "primary function is to provide Internet service". If they would define ISP as Internet ACCESS provider - then this would be a different story. Because we don't provide Internet access and our primary function is not clean-and-forward MX services. -Original Message- From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of David Barker Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 10:49 AM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] CommTouch ZeroHour Commtouch does have a restriction. The condition is: a. "ISP" shall mean an internet service provider or managed solution provider. What this means - if you are an ISP as defined by Commtouch, your primary function is to provide Internet service to your customers (like Comcast) or your business provides managed services (Like MXlogic) clean-and-forward of emails. Secondly, if your business is part of the ISP category you can use Commtouch with the added cost of $3.60 per user per year. And finally, the yearly cost and payments to Commtouch for NON-ISP perpetual license Declude customers is being absorbed by Declude. David Barker VP Operations Declude Your Email security is our business 978.499.2933 office 978.988.1311 fax dbar...@declude.com --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] CommTouch ZeroHour
Commtouch does have a restriction. The condition is: a. "ISP" shall mean an internet service provider or managed solution provider. What this means - if you are an ISP as defined by Commtouch, your primary function is to provide Internet service to your customers (like Comcast) or your business provides managed services (Like MXlogic) clean-and-forward of emails. Secondly, if your business is part of the ISP category you can use Commtouch with the added cost of $3.60 per user per year. And finally, the yearly cost and payments to Commtouch for NON-ISP perpetual license Declude customers is being absorbed by Declude. David Barker VP Operations Declude Your Email security is our business 978.499.2933 office 978.988.1311 fax dbar...@declude.com -Original Message- From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of Sanford Whiteman Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 2:07 AM To: Dean Lawrence Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] CommTouch ZeroHour > If my memory serves me correctly, there were some licensing > limitations for using the CommTouch tests which is why I have not > activated it in the past. Has this changed? I was trying to find it > on my account page but could not. The list archives show that as of the last public communication, CommTouch is allowed for [a] people who are not considered service providers or [b] people who are service providers, but who are "legacy" Declude customers holding a perpetual license prior to the integration of CT. > I host mail for my clients (we are not an ISP though), so can you > clarify if I am able to use the CommTouch feature? It's my understanding from David's remarks in the past that if you perform store-and-forward between your organization and another (which seems to apply to you) and you are not a legacy customer, you are not allowed to use CT. Though perhaps if you charge nothing for the service on paper (not just a loss leader, but a non-item) then maybe you still aren't a service provider? I presume, though it is far from clear, that when David refers to eating the cost of CT it is that he is eating the cost only for the legacy customers who operate service providers. If in fact Declude is absorbing the service provider sublicensing cost for all legacy customers, regardless of how each customer actually deploys Declude, that is unfortunate but certainly not the fault of people whose real use of Declude should *not* legally trigger an associated Declude payment to CommTouch. Or if Declude has been absorbing the service provider sublicense for *all* current customers -- that is, that anyone can now use ZEROHOUR regardless of when they bought and how they use Declude -- that certainly was not well-presented to the community. --Sandy Sanford Whiteman, Chief Technologist Broadleaf Systems, a division of Cypress Integrated Systems, Inc. e-mail: sa...@cypressintegrated.com SpamAssassin plugs into Declude! http://www.imprimia.com/products/software/freeutils/SPAMC32/download/release / Defuse Dictionary Attacks: Turn Exchange or IMail mailboxes into IMail Aliases! http://www.imprimia.com/products/software/freeutils/exchange2aliases/downloa d/release/ http://www.imprimia.com/products/software/freeutils/ldap2aliases/download/re lease/ --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.