RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Indicate msg size in header on an authenticated whitelisted

2008-01-24 Thread John T (lists)
2 years ago, I would have had a dozen replies by now and even possible a
nice discussion going on.

 

Where is everybody?

 

John T

 

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To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Indicate msg size in header on an authenticated
whitelisted

 

I am trying to figure out how to add a line in the header of a message to
indicate it is over xKB in size with that incoming message being whitelisted
via authenticated sender. 

 

Example, user1 on the local Imail server sends a message to user2 on the
local Imail server, hence the email is whitelisted since user1
authenticated. But the message is over 2 MB and user2 is currently traveling
and using a slow broadband card. The desired action is to have a test that
fails on the over 1 MB size and an inbound rule on user2 that will then
move that message to a submail box called LargeFiles. This way, user2 when
he connects via his Outlook does not try to download that email, instead he
will be responsible for checking that folder via webmail and then if he
needs it right away he can either download the attachment via webmail or
move it to his normal inbox.

 

Thoughts, Ideas, cookies?

 

John T

 


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Message authenticator

2008-01-24 Thread John T (lists)
Out of the box, not that I am aware of. It is recorded in the Imail SMTP
log. This however would be a good feature request for Declude.

 

John T

 

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To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Message authenicator

 

Is there a way in declude filters (or even in imail rules) to find who
authenticated the message from the Q.smd file ?

 

TIA


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[Declude.JunkMail] Indicate msg size in header on an authenticated whitelisted

2008-01-21 Thread John T (lists)
I am trying to figure out how to add a line in the header of a message to
indicate it is over xKB in size with that incoming message being whitelisted
via authenticated sender. 

 

Example, user1 on the local Imail server sends a message to user2 on the
local Imail server, hence the email is whitelisted since user1
authenticated. But the message is over 2 MB and user2 is currently traveling
and using a slow broadband card. The desired action is to have a test that
fails on the over 1 MB size and an inbound rule on user2 that will then
move that message to a submail box called LargeFiles. This way, user2 when
he connects via his Outlook does not try to download that email, instead he
will be responsible for checking that folder via webmail and then if he
needs it right away he can either download the attachment via webmail or
move it to his normal inbox.

 

Thoughts, Ideas, cookies?

 

John T

 



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[Declude.JunkMail] CommTouch FP reporting

2007-11-24 Thread John T (lists)
There was a discussion back in March about improving the way FPs are
reported to CommTouch. 

 

What is the current recommended method for reporting FPs?

 

John T

 



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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SPAMDOMAINS update for the att conglomerate

2007-10-26 Thread John T (lists)
The ATT/Yahoo/BellSouth/Ameritech/SBS conglomerate is about to force me to
remove all of the entries from the spamdomains file entirely. 

(Did I leave any one out?)

John T
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott
Fisher
 Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 10:46 AM
 To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SPAMDOMAINS update for the att
conglomerate
 
 You can but I think the limit is three.
 
 Don't forget ATT/SBC is in bed with Yahoo so their email can come through
 Yahoo too.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Keith
 Johnson
 Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 11:24 AM
 To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SPAMDOMAINS update for the att
conglomerate
 
 
 John,
 
 Can you list multiple REVDNS on a single line when using spamdomains?
 
 For example
 
 @bellsouth.net.bellsouth. isp.att.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Keith
 
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 Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 10:55 AM
 To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] SPAMDOMAINS update for the att conglomerate
 
 Does anyone have an updated listed for SPAMDOMAINS test for the AT  T
 conglomerate?
 
 I know there is .att. and bellsouth.com and sbc.com but what else is there
 that could originate from an att.com REVDNS?
 
 John T
 
 
 
 
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Test or filtering option for authenticated messages

2007-10-12 Thread John T (lists)
 I'll explain what I'm doing: instead of using IMail's copyall function for
 archival, which BTW is very resource intensive, I use Declude's COPYTO

Please explain. The Imail copyall function simply adds the copyall
configured email address to the envelope of the email as it is received. As
such, when the email is then processed by the Queue Manager service, it is
simple another recipient. Then, the rules.ima file processing is extremely
quick since it is a flat text file that is read and then what ever action is
taken. In other words, there is now work to do, it is simple an added email
address to the recipient list.

The copyall function is used by hundreds of admins on Imail servers without
any effect on resources.

John T




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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SMTP_DELIV_FAILED

2007-10-08 Thread John T (lists)
Are you using DNS caching, turn that off. It is on the QueueManger service
properties.

John T
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin
Rogers
 Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 4:37 PM
 To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
 Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SMTP_DELIV_FAILED
 
 I can ping yahoo.com.  These errors are happening all the time.  They
 are occuring only with specific recipient domains - not all domains.
 Incoming traffic appears normal even from these domains.
 
 
 Richard Lyon wrote:
  As a test, try ping something on the Internet when you see this
  delivery message. Like Yahoo.com.
 
 
  On Oct 8, 2007, at 6:52 PM, Kevin Rogers wrote:
 
  I've turned on verbose logging and it appears that the listen on all
  IPs option did not work.  But here is a better log snippet:
 
  10:08 15:32 SMTPD(b01501a702f1) [192.168.0.4] connect
  64.121.33.15 port 5672
  10:08 15:32 SMTPD(b01501a702f1) [64.121.33.15] EHLO [192.168.1.110]
  10:08 15:32 SMTPD(b01501a702f1) [64.121.33.15] AUTH
  10:08 15:32 SMTPD(b01501a702f1) [64.121.33.15] AUTH
  10:08 15:32 SMTPD(b01501a702f1) [64.121.33.15] AUTH
  10:08 15:32 SMTPD(b01501a702f1) Authenticated
  [EMAIL PROTECTED], session treated as local.
  10:08 15:32 SMTPD(b01501a702f1) [64.121.33.15] MAIL
  FROM:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  10:08 15:32 SMTPD(b01501a702f1) [64.121.33.15] RCPT
  TO:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  10:08 15:32 SMTPD(b01501a702f1) [64.121.33.15] DATA
  10:08 15:32 SMTPD(b01501a702f1) [64.121.33.15]
  d:\imail\spool\Db01501a702f1.SMD 558
  10:08 15:32 SMTP-() Info - Adding Queue file
  d:\imail\spool\qb01501a702f1.smd
  10:08 15:32 SMTP-(b01501a702f1) processing
  d:\imail\spool\qb01501a702f1.smd
  10:08 15:32 SMTP-(b01501a702f1) [x] looking up healthnet.com in
  HOSTS and MX
  10:08 15:32 SMTP-(b01501a702f1) Info - Adding healthnet.com to
  DNS cache - TTL = 1724
  10:08 15:32 SMTP-(b01501a702f1) [Att-Blk] Got Attachment Blocking
  Host Info for Rogersbenefit.com
  10:08 15:32 SMTP-(b01501a702f1) Trying healthnet.com (0)
  10:08 15:32 SMTP-(b01501a702f1) [x] Connecting socket to service
  SMTP on host healthnet.com using protocol tcp
  10:08 15:32 SMTP-(b01501a702f1) [x] using source IP for
  Rogersbenefit.com [192.168.0.4]
  10:08 15:32 SMTP-(b01501a702f1) Info - Found healthnet.com in DNS
  Cache
  10:08 15:32 SMTP-(b01501a702f1) Connect healthnet.com
  [204.107.47.187:25] (1)
  10:08 15:32 SMTP-(b01501a702f1) 421 Service not available,
  closing transmission channel
  10:08 15:32 SMTP-(b01501a702f1) SMTP_DELIV_FAILED
  10:08 15:32 SMTP-(b01501a702f1) QUIT
  10:08 15:32 SMTP-(b01501a702f1)
  10:08 15:32 SMTP-(b01501a702f1) [u] closing socket (u)
  10:08 15:32 SMTP-(b01501a702f1) requeuing
  d:\imail\spool\qb01501a702f1.smd R0 T1
  10:08 15:32 SMTP-(b01501a702f1) finished
  d:\imail\spool\qb01501a702f1.smd status=3
 
 
  Does this help?
 
 
 
 
  Kevin Rogers wrote:
  FYI -
 
  I just noticed that on the SMTP Advanced tab of Imail, the option to
  Enable SMTP to Listen On All IP's was NOT selected.  I'm not sure
  if this could've been the problem, but I've now selected that option
  and will watch the logs.
 
  Kevin
 
 
  Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
  Your A / PTR records look fine.
 
  mail.rogersbenefit.com. 7200IN  A   207.47.22.58
  58.22.47.207.in-addr.arpa. 86288 IN PTR
mail.rogersbenefit.com
 
  Your listed in one RBL - backscatter so it would seem that it
  should not be related to spam.
 
  Can you post a more detailed smtp log for the 6863023f5c41
  transaction.  This would help more.  You can  out any addresses
  etc to prevent harvesting..
 
  Darrell
  --
  Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for
  Declude, Imail, mxGuard, and ORF.  IMail/Declude Overflow Queue
  Monitoring, SURBL/URI integration, MRTG Integration, and Log Parsers.
 
 
  Kevin Rogers wrote:
  I'm not sure if this is the right place to post this issue, but
  here goes:
 
  We recently upgraded our server (to Server2003 - running Imail.
  8.21, Declude 4.3) and we're getting a lot of delivery failures to
  specific domains.  It looks like the error we used to get before
  we had a PTR record setup correctly - certain domains refusing to
  connect with us.  But I believe our PTR record is setup
  correctly.  We upgraded our server, and so it has a different
  local IP address, but the same external IP, so our PTR record
  shouldn't have to change.  The domain is rogersbenefit.com
 
  The errors in the imail log look like this:
  10:08 13:20 SMTP-(57f5021f4794) Trying LifeWiseHealth.com (0)
  10:08 13:20 SMTP-(5b9502064c35) Trying healthnet.com (0)
  10:08 13:20 SMTP-(66fa0818097c) Trying healthnet.com (0)
  10:08 13:20 SMTP-(593902374927) Trying healthnet.com (0)
  10:08 13:20 SMTP-(69ac02185d9b) 

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Setting Up DNS Service on Server 2003

2007-10-08 Thread John T \(lists\)
1) My policy and the way I setup my servers and clients is that the local
DNS service on the Imail server is ONLY used for Imail and related software.
I leave the OS to use what ever DNS server is used normally on the network.

2) On your forwarder question, yes, if the forward look up zone is for a
domain that you are having problems with, yes, that is the problem.

John T


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin
Rogers
 Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 5:36 PM
 To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
 Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Setting Up DNS Service on Server 2003
 
 Thanks Darrell.
 
 So if my server's local IP is 192.168.0.4 and I have simply installed
 the DNS service, I can change Imail's SMTP settings to include
 192.168.0.4 as one of my DNS servers?  In my Network Connection applet
 in the control panel, I can also put 192.168.0.4 as my primary DNS IP?
 (I also have 2 external ones from my ISP.)   And I can do this without
 adding any forward or reverse lookup zones?
 
 On my old server, someone had setup a Forward Lookup Zone
 
 Could this be the problem with not being able to reach certain domains
 via SMTP (the other problem I posted earlier)?  It seems like there was
 domain name resolution, but our connection was being halted by the
 recipient server - I'm not sure why DNS would be involved in that - just
 checking.
 
 Thanks.
 Kevin
 
 
 Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
  Kevin,
 
  All you need to do is install the service and your already in caching
  mode.  Just limit the outsides ability to query it since you will need
  to have recursion enabled and MSDNS does not allow you to set what ip
  blocks can and can not query the dns service.
 
  Any problems let me know and I can help you out.
 
  --
  Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for Declude,
  Imail, mxGuard, and ORF.  IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring,
  SURBL/URI integration, MRTG Integration, and Log Parsers.
 
 
  Kevin Rogers wrote:
  Does anyone have any simple instructions on how to setup the DNS
  service for Windows 2003 Server?
 
  We only host 2 domains and our DNS records are hosted by Network
  Solutions.  Our old server (windows 2000 server) had the DNS service
  setup already when I took over the admin, so I never had to set it up
  from scratch.
  So we're only using the DNS service to allow Imail to run more
  efficiently - we're not actually using the DNS service to act as the
  authority for these domains.
 
  As you can probably tell, the simpler the instructions, the better ;)
 
  Thanks - Kevin
 
 
 
 
 
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc stops for no reason

2007-10-04 Thread John T \(lists\)
Since Hobbies are something we do when we have the time, my hobby is
sleeping.

;-)

Oh, sorry, your question.

When this happens, is the service actually stopped? (Is decludeproc listed
in Task Manager?)

When you try to restart it, what error is displayed or logged in the Windows
Event log?

What version of Declude?

John T
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick
Hogue
 Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 11:25 PM
 To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc stops for no reason
 
 Over the past 3 days I have had to reboot one of our mail servers at least
6
 times due to the decludeproc stopping for no reason and not restarting. We
 run 8.21 Imail with declude and sniffer but I keep getting these stops.
This
 was happening about once per week for a while and then it stopped but now
it
 seems to be doing it daily. Any help on this would be appreciated.
 
 
 Rick Hogue
 I love woodworking! What is your hobby?
 
 
 
 
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] What am I doing wrong with Revdns filter?

2007-09-08 Thread John T \(lists\)
 Are being caught as spam ... I have in file I call REVDNSFILE
 
 
 REVDNS -99 ENDSWITH .ebay.com

In addition to what Darrell suggested about putting the log into debug, make
sure there is no space after .com in your filter.

John T




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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] RE: David, Linda...

2007-09-04 Thread John T \(lists\)
Rename the hijack.cfg to hijack.cfg.txt. You will then need to stop and
restart the decludeproc service.

John T
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 Gufler Markus
 Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 6:50 AM
 To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] RE: David, Linda...
 
 found a hijack.cfg file even if I hadn't used it anytime before. Could
 it
 be that with completely equal config files after upgrading from v3 to
 v4
 hijack functionality was enabled?
 How could I completely disable this functionality?
 
 
 
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[Declude.JunkMail] SPAMDOMAINS update for the att conglomerate

2007-08-20 Thread John T (lists)
Does anyone have an updated listed for SPAMDOMAINS test for the AT  T
conglomerate?

I know there is .att. and bellsouth.com and sbc.com but what else is there
that could originate from an att.com REVDNS?

John T




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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] FW: Problems

2007-08-06 Thread John T \(lists\)
Post a log snippet showing the errors or send off list.



John T
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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
 Todd Richards
 Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2007 2:19 PM
 To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] FW: Problems
 
 I didn't see this message come in to the list, so I wasn't sure if it
 went
 through or not.
 
 An update:  I did reinstall Declude, which did not help.  Decludeproc
 is
 crashing every 1 minute.
 
 Todd
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Todd Richards [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2007 2:14 PM
 To: 'declude.junkmail@declude.com'
 Subject: Problems
 
 Happy Sunday everyone.  We've got some issues with Declude.  Basically,
 nothing is getting filtered.  I didn't check mail at all yesterday, and
 found over 1500 junk messages in my Inbox this morning.  If I look at
 the
 headers, there is nothing about Declude in them.  I rebooted the mail
 server
 and when I log in via RDP, I see an error that Decludeproc.exe had an
 error
 and needed to close.  I hit ok, and it does that again about 5 times.
 Then
 it goes away.  When I look at the services and see that decludeproc is
 running.
 
 I looked at the server logs this morning and they are completely
 littered
 with error messages from decludeproc, starting on Thursday afternoon
 when I
 started having a few issues.
 
 I have sent a few messages to Declude, realizing that I probably won't
 hear
 back until tomorrow.  In the meantime, I'm getting some hate mail from
 our
 end users.
 
 Anyone have any suggestions?  Reinstall?
 
 Todd
 
 
 
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Spam Increase?

2007-08-03 Thread John T \(lists\)
I actually saw it ramping up since last weekend and every day there have
been a change or 2 in the spam to keep it from being caught.

John T
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 Todd Richards
 Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 2:35 PM
 To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Spam Increase?
 
 Anyone else noticing an increase in spam today?  It seems like stuff
 that
 was normally being caught before is showing up in my Inbox.
 
 Todd
 
 
 
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[Declude.JunkMail] Excel files in zip files spreading

2007-07-28 Thread John T \(lists\)
I am not sure what is the purpose yet, but I am catching a lot of emails
this morning with a blank subject, Thunderbird in the header, attached zip
file and the zip file contains an single xls file.

 

THESE ARE NOT LEGIT EMAILS.

 

Any body else seeing this and know what they are, virus or spam?

 

John T

 



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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Excel files in zip files spreading

2007-07-28 Thread John T \(lists\)
Yes, I see that now. What caught me off guard was the blank subject line
this time, as before the subject line contained the name of the file.
Thanks.

 

John T

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt
Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2007 9:46 AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Excel files in zip files spreading

 

John,

It's just another one of the viruses from the Storm botnet.  Same guys as
the ones sending fake greeting card viruses and PDF stock spam among other
things.

Matt



John T (lists) wrote: 

I am not sure what is the purpose yet, but I am catching a lot of emails
this morning with a blank subject, Thunderbird in the header, attached zip
file and the zip file contains an single xls file.

 

THESE ARE NOT LEGIT EMAILS.

 

Any body else seeing this and know what they are, virus or spam?

 

John T

 


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[Declude.JunkMail] Fidelity Independent Adviser

2007-07-18 Thread John T \(lists\)
First time I am seeing this one, caught by Sniffer.

Any one have experience with their newsletters? Legit? Ham? Spam?

John T





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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Possible Declude Memory Leak???

2007-07-07 Thread John T \(lists\)
While I am not getting the errors you have seen, I have noticed that the number 
of handles is extremely high, right now it showed over 67K.

 

John T

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Anton
Sent: Friday, July 06, 2007 3:58 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Possible Declude Memory Leak???

 

Hi All,
We are getting the follow error in our system event log and have noticed some 
things relating to declude:

An I/O operation initiated by the Registry failed unrecoverably. The Registry 
could not read in, or write out, or flush, one of the files that contain the 
system's image of the Registry.

We are running 4.3.46 and are seeing decludeproc.exe reaching # of handles as 
high as 50,000.  A reboot fixes all, but loses any registry changes since the 
error started.  We are open to any suggestions.  Thanks for any help you have!

Best Regards,

Chris Anton
Web Solutions, Inc.
Tel: 203-235- x25
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.websolutions.net


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] More accidental whitelisting

2007-05-29 Thread John T \(lists\)
The point you have missed is that just because YOU are using Imail 2006.2 does 
not mean every one else is. Declude is doing exactly as it should, checking to 
see if an aliases.txt file exists and if so use it.

 

As for the option of turning whitelisting based on the address book on or off, 
uh, ah, golly gee, that is what AUTOWHITELIST is for.

 

As for not knowing that 2006.2 no longer uses the aliases.txt files…

 

John T

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Imail Admin
Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007 10:22 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] More accidental whitelisting

 

Hi Matt,

 

I understood the discussion about AUTOWHITELIST ON and the web address book 
issue.  Where I got caught was that this server doesn't use aliases.txt, but 
the file is just there by accidental legacy.

 

We're in the process of replacing our old 7.15 server with a new 2006.2 server 
by moving to a new machine.  So far, the only domain we've moved over (until we 
get the bugs like this worked out) is our own domain.  As part of that process, 
I copied over our old user folders (just for our domain) to the new server.  
The aliases.txt file must have been in the old users folder on the old server.

 

Where I got fooled was because apparently 2006.2 doesn't use that file any 
more, so when I logged into the web interface, it told me the address book was 
empty.  And, truthfully, I (and most of our users) used IMAP access via Outlook 
or something similar, rather than the web interface, so I wasn't even familiar 
with the file.

 

I do agree with the discussion on this point: first, the whitelisting should 
never apply to your own address, and, I think the whole idea of whitelisting 
the address book should be an option that can be turned on/off from the config 
file.

 

Anyway, thank you very much for clearing up this mystery for me.  

 

Thanks!

 

Ben

 

- Original Message - 

From: Matt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  

To: declude.junkmail@declude.com 

Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007 8:50 PM

Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] More accidental whitelisting

 

Ben,

This was covered early in the thread.  You have AUTOWHITELIST ON in your 
global.cfg, and that causes Declude to whitelist whatever is in the recipient's 
address book (aliases.txt in all IMail versions prior to 2006).  You have your 
own E-mail address listed in your address book, and a spammer forged your 
address as the Mail From.  This is commonly seen by those that use 
AUTOWHITELIST.

There is no way to stop this unless you remove your address from your address 
book, and this is also likely happening to your other users where they have 
themselves listed in their address book, as well as others on your hosted 
domains in the event that there are multiple recipient forging spam.

There is a limited workaround for some of this using a test called 
BYPASSWHITELIST.  You can search the archives or manual about this.

The best solution if you want to keep the ability to whitelist from the address 
book would be for Declude to make a change to automatically exclude any 
recipient of the E-mail from triggering AUTOWHITELIST.  This has been requested 
repeatedly for over 3 years and even came up again in this thread.  The fact 
that people were quick to point out that this was likely the reason for your 
issue is testament to the fact that it affects a lot of people that use this 
functionality.

Matt



Imail Admin wrote: 

Hi All,

 

Last week I was struggling with this mysterious accidental whitelisting.  
Emails addressed to me were whitelisted, even though I had (to the best of my 
knowledge) no whitelisting turned on for my own address.  After setting the JM 
logging to high, I came up with the following lines:

 

05/28/2007 17:39:47.568 q764101a664c1.smd Past whitelisting
05/28/2007 17:39:47.568 q764101a664c1.smd Looping #0 [flags=1]
05/28/2007 17:39:47.568 q764101a664c1.smd [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]@mail2.bcwebhost.net] *local*
05/28/2007 17:39:47.568 q764101a664c1.smd Opening 
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\software\Ipswitch\IMail\Domains for [EMAIL PROTECTED] [0]
05/28/2007 17:39:47.568 q764101a664c1.smd D:\IMail\Users\ben\aliases.txt
05/28/2007 17:39:47.568 q764101a664c1.smd Doing whitelist file 
D:\IMail\Users\ben\aliases.txt
05/28/2007 17:39:47.568 q764101a664c1.smd Using whitelist file 
D:\IMail\Users\ben\aliases.txt.
05/28/2007 17:39:47.568 q764101a664c1.smd Skipping4 E-mail from [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]   ; whitelisted [EMAIL PROTECTED]   ].
05/28/2007 17:39:47.568 q764101a664c1.smd Domain name = 
mail2.bcwebhost.net,  User name = ben.

So, for reasons I don't understand, Declude is looking at my aliases.txt file 
for whitelisting.  I couldn't find anywhere in the configuration files for this 
to happen, but there it is.  I don't even know how aliases.txt is created, but 
when I looked inside it, I found the email addresses for various random people, 

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] accidental whitelisting

2007-05-24 Thread John T \(lists\)
Put the log into debug mode.

 

John T

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Imail Admin
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 5:42 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] accidental whitelisting

 

Hi All,

 

We're in the process of tesing JM 4.x as an upgrade and I ran into what I am 
sure is a minor mis-configuration.

 

I find that I occassionally get messages that are clearly spam, but are 
whitelisted.  The common characteristic is that they are sent with a from line 
that is my own email address, such as the following:

 

X-Declude-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [77.85.117.187]
X-Declude-Spoolname: D29db019e2105.smd
X-Declude-Note: Scanned by Declude 4.2.20 for spam. 
http://www.declude.com/x-note.htm;
X-Declude-Scan: Incoming Score [0] at 17:12:28 on 24 May 2007
X-Declude-Fail: Whitelisted, ZEROHOUR [0] 

Now, I checked and I don't see why this is being whitelisted.  We only 
whitelist a handful of IP addresses, and this isn't one of them.  The whitelist 
settings in the global.cfg file are:

 

#=WHITELISTS   
===
#WHITELIST  HABEAS
#DOMAINWHITELISTS OFF
PREWHITELIST   ON
WHITELIST  AUTH
AUTOWHITELIST  ON

 

# - Domain Example -
#WHITELIST FROM @declude.com

 

# - User Example -
#WHITELIST FROM [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 

# - IP Example - 
WHITELIST IP 63.246.31.248

 

# - REVDNS Example - 
WHITELIST  REVDNS  .declude.com

 

These are pretty much the defaults.  The Autowhitelist ON command uses 
addresses in the web address book, so I checked those and found nothing (no 
addresses at all).  I'm sure this is something really obvious, but could 
someone point it out to me?

 

Thanks,

 

Ben

BC Web

 


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: server monitoring

2007-05-22 Thread John T \(lists\)
I have switched from WhatsUp to Network Monitor by Numara Software, the same 
company that sells Track IT.

 

John T

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Bilbee
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 7:47 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: server monitoring

 

Like everything else at ipswitch it has gone up in price. $1995 for the lowest 
price point.

 

 

Kevin

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Doherty
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 6:50 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: server monitoring

 

Hi Kevin-

 

I monitor everything in my shop for a pulse, and check web, pop, smtp, and/or 
imap as appropriate using Ipswitch's What's Up, 1995 version (3.5, maybe?). I 
get emails to my cellphone when anything goes awry.  I have no idea what it 
costs now, but it has served my needs well, even if the setup of this old 
version is a bit quirky.


-Dave Doherty
 Skywaves, Inc.
 97 Webster Street
 Worcester, MA 01603
 508-425-7176

- Original Message - 

From: Kevin Bilbee mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  

To: declude.junkmail@declude.com 

Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 8:30 PM

Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: server monitoring

 

I guess I should have given more information. Things I want to do. Monitor our 
web and SMTP applications and send text message notifications to a cell phone 
and email address concurrently.

 

Thanks for the responses so far anyone else have any experiences.

 

 

 

Kevin Bilbee

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Bilbee
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 3:06 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: server monitoring

 

I am doing research on purchasing/open source server monitoring and would like 
to know what Declude administrators recommend.

 

Survey sais?

 

Kevin Bilbee
Network Administrator
Standard Abrasives, Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Changing the way industry works. 

 


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: server monitoring

2007-05-22 Thread John T \(lists\)
That is also why in my monitoring server I have a modem connected to an analog 
phone line.

 

John T

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Doherty
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 5:29 AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: server monitoring

 

One thing to think about...

 

If you set up your own in-house monitoring, you probably will not get an alert 
if your Internet feed fails or you have a massive power problem. Outsourcing 
the monitoring function would eliminate these problems.

 

-d

- Original Message - 

From: Kevin Bilbee mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  

To: declude.junkmail@declude.com 

Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 6:05 PM

Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: server monitoring

 

I am doing research on purchasing/open source server monitoring and would like 
to know what Declude administrators recommend.

 

Survey sais?

 

Kevin Bilbee
Network Administrator
Standard Abrasives, Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Changing the way industry works. 

 


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] all_list.dat ?

2007-05-17 Thread John T \(lists\)
I think we all fully understand that now Andrew.

John T
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
 Colbeck, Andrew
 Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 9:54 AM
 To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] all_list.dat ?
 
 Thanks, David.
 
 It's working fine here!
 
 
 Andrw 8)
 
 
 
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
  Behalf Of David Barker
  Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 9:29 AM
  To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
  Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] all_list.dat ?
 
  New all_list.dat available from the My Account page on
  Declude website.
 
  David Barker
  VP Operations  |  Declude
  Your Email Security is our business
  O: 978.499.2933  x7007
  F: 978.988.1311
  E: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
  Behalf Of David Barker
  Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 9:52 AM
  To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
  Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] all_list.dat ?
 
  Sure, I will see what I can do for early next week.
 
  David Barker
  VP Operations  |  Declude
  Your Email Security is our business
  O: 978.499.2933  x7007
  F: 978.988.1311
  E: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
  Behalf Of Colbeck, Andrew
  Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 7:42 PM
  To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
  Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] all_list.dat ?
 
  Hey, David.
 
  Any chance of seeing a refresh of all_list.dat ... It's been
  just about
  4 months since the last one.  Three or four times a year
  doesn't sound bad.
 
  Andrew 8)
 
 
 
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
   Colbeck, Andrew
   Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 9:08 AM
   To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
   Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] all_list.dat ?
  
   Thanks, David.
  
   The early report is that it's working for me.
  
   Andrew 8)
  
  
  
  
  
  
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
  Behalf Of
David Barker
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 7:37 AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] all_list.dat ?
   
New all_list.dat available on the My Account home page of
   Declude. 18
Jan 07 344kB
   
David Barker
Director of Product Management
Your Email security is our business
978.499.2933 office
978.988.1311 fax
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   
   
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
  Behalf Of
Gary Steiner
Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 4:30 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] all_list.dat ?
   
David (or any Declude people that may be reading),
   
Any chance of seeing a new all_list.dat any time soon,
   considering the
current one has a date of 6 Jul 06, and considering the
  additional
input from this recent thread?
   
I'm starting to see false positives caused by weights I
  previously
gave to IANA Reserved and RIPE Unlisted.
   
Gary
   
   
   
 Original Message 
 From: Jay Sudowski - Handy Networks LLC
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 5:57 PM
 To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] [IANA Reserved] ?

 Indeed.  When we obtained our own IP space from ARIN,
  it was from
 72/8, which had been released only about 6 months prior
   to it being
 assigned to us.  You wouldn't believe the number of
networks that were
 running with 72/8 in their bogons list and were
  entirely blocking
 traffic from our network...


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
   Behalf Of
 Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
 Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 3:47 PM
 To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
 Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] [IANA Reserved] ?


 I would be very careful with this.  IANA just released (I
   believe in
 October) 96/8, 97/8, 98/8, 99/8.  With the all_list.dat
  not being
 updated frequently I would tred very lightly in this
   area.  Part of
 96/8 has been handed out.

 Darrell

   
  
  -
 -
 -- Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities
for Declude
 And Imail.  IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, SURBL/URI
 integration, MRTG Integration, and Log Parsers.

 - Original Message -
 From: S.J.Stanaitis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
 Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 3:29 PM
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] [IANA Reserved] ?


 Nice.

 Thanks,
 Sam

 SJ.Stanaitis - Network Administrator Decorative Product Source
 

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] all_list.dat ?

2007-05-17 Thread John T \(lists\)
I think we all fully understand that now Andrew.

John T
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
 Colbeck, Andrew
 Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 9:54 AM
 To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] all_list.dat ?
 
 Thanks, David.
 
 It's working fine here!
 
 
 Andrw 8)
 
 
 
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
  Behalf Of David Barker
  Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 9:29 AM
  To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
  Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] all_list.dat ?
 
  New all_list.dat available from the My Account page on
  Declude website.
 
  David Barker
  VP Operations  |  Declude
  Your Email Security is our business
  O: 978.499.2933  x7007
  F: 978.988.1311
  E: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
  Behalf Of David Barker
  Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 9:52 AM
  To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
  Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] all_list.dat ?
 
  Sure, I will see what I can do for early next week.
 
  David Barker
  VP Operations  |  Declude
  Your Email Security is our business
  O: 978.499.2933  x7007
  F: 978.988.1311
  E: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
  Behalf Of Colbeck, Andrew
  Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 7:42 PM
  To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
  Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] all_list.dat ?
 
  Hey, David.
 
  Any chance of seeing a refresh of all_list.dat ... It's been
  just about
  4 months since the last one.  Three or four times a year
  doesn't sound bad.
 
  Andrew 8)
 
 
 
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
   Colbeck, Andrew
   Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 9:08 AM
   To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
   Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] all_list.dat ?
  
   Thanks, David.
  
   The early report is that it's working for me.
  
   Andrew 8)
  
  
  
  
  
  
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
  Behalf Of
David Barker
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 7:37 AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] all_list.dat ?
   
New all_list.dat available on the My Account home page of
   Declude. 18
Jan 07 344kB
   
David Barker
Director of Product Management
Your Email security is our business
978.499.2933 office
978.988.1311 fax
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   
   
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
  Behalf Of
Gary Steiner
Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 4:30 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] all_list.dat ?
   
David (or any Declude people that may be reading),
   
Any chance of seeing a new all_list.dat any time soon,
   considering the
current one has a date of 6 Jul 06, and considering the
  additional
input from this recent thread?
   
I'm starting to see false positives caused by weights I
  previously
gave to IANA Reserved and RIPE Unlisted.
   
Gary
   
   
   
 Original Message 
 From: Jay Sudowski - Handy Networks LLC
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 5:57 PM
 To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] [IANA Reserved] ?

 Indeed.  When we obtained our own IP space from ARIN,
  it was from
 72/8, which had been released only about 6 months prior
   to it being
 assigned to us.  You wouldn't believe the number of
networks that were
 running with 72/8 in their bogons list and were
  entirely blocking
 traffic from our network...


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
   Behalf Of
 Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
 Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 3:47 PM
 To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
 Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] [IANA Reserved] ?


 I would be very careful with this.  IANA just released (I
   believe in
 October) 96/8, 97/8, 98/8, 99/8.  With the all_list.dat
  not being
 updated frequently I would tred very lightly in this
   area.  Part of
 96/8 has been handed out.

 Darrell

   
  
  -
 -
 -- Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities
for Declude
 And Imail.  IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, SURBL/URI
 integration, MRTG Integration, and Log Parsers.

 - Original Message -
 From: S.J.Stanaitis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
 Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 3:29 PM
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] [IANA Reserved] ?


 Nice.

 Thanks,
 Sam

 SJ.Stanaitis - Network Administrator Decorative Product Source
 

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] all_list.dat ?

2007-05-17 Thread John T \(lists\)
I think we all fully understand that now Andrew.

John T
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
 Colbeck, Andrew
 Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 9:54 AM
 To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] all_list.dat ?
 
 Thanks, David.
 
 It's working fine here!
 
 
 Andrw 8)
 
 
 
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
  Behalf Of David Barker
  Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 9:29 AM
  To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
  Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] all_list.dat ?
 
  New all_list.dat available from the My Account page on
  Declude website.
 
  David Barker
  VP Operations  |  Declude
  Your Email Security is our business
  O: 978.499.2933  x7007
  F: 978.988.1311
  E: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
  Behalf Of David Barker
  Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 9:52 AM
  To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
  Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] all_list.dat ?
 
  Sure, I will see what I can do for early next week.
 
  David Barker
  VP Operations  |  Declude
  Your Email Security is our business
  O: 978.499.2933  x7007
  F: 978.988.1311
  E: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
  Behalf Of Colbeck, Andrew
  Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 7:42 PM
  To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
  Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] all_list.dat ?
 
  Hey, David.
 
  Any chance of seeing a refresh of all_list.dat ... It's been
  just about
  4 months since the last one.  Three or four times a year
  doesn't sound bad.
 
  Andrew 8)
 
 
 
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
   Colbeck, Andrew
   Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 9:08 AM
   To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
   Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] all_list.dat ?
  
   Thanks, David.
  
   The early report is that it's working for me.
  
   Andrew 8)
  
  
  
  
  
  
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
  Behalf Of
David Barker
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 7:37 AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] all_list.dat ?
   
New all_list.dat available on the My Account home page of
   Declude. 18
Jan 07 344kB
   
David Barker
Director of Product Management
Your Email security is our business
978.499.2933 office
978.988.1311 fax
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   
   
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
  Behalf Of
Gary Steiner
Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 4:30 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] all_list.dat ?
   
David (or any Declude people that may be reading),
   
Any chance of seeing a new all_list.dat any time soon,
   considering the
current one has a date of 6 Jul 06, and considering the
  additional
input from this recent thread?
   
I'm starting to see false positives caused by weights I
  previously
gave to IANA Reserved and RIPE Unlisted.
   
Gary
   
   
   
 Original Message 
 From: Jay Sudowski - Handy Networks LLC
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 5:57 PM
 To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] [IANA Reserved] ?

 Indeed.  When we obtained our own IP space from ARIN,
  it was from
 72/8, which had been released only about 6 months prior
   to it being
 assigned to us.  You wouldn't believe the number of
networks that were
 running with 72/8 in their bogons list and were
  entirely blocking
 traffic from our network...


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
   Behalf Of
 Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
 Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 3:47 PM
 To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
 Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] [IANA Reserved] ?


 I would be very careful with this.  IANA just released (I
   believe in
 October) 96/8, 97/8, 98/8, 99/8.  With the all_list.dat
  not being
 updated frequently I would tred very lightly in this
   area.  Part of
 96/8 has been handed out.

 Darrell

   
  
  -
 -
 -- Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities
for Declude
 And Imail.  IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, SURBL/URI
 integration, MRTG Integration, and Log Parsers.

 - Original Message -
 From: S.J.Stanaitis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
 Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 3:29 PM
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] [IANA Reserved] ?


 Nice.

 Thanks,
 Sam

 SJ.Stanaitis - Network Administrator Decorative Product Source
 

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] all_list.dat ?

2007-05-17 Thread John T \(lists\)
OK, would some one at Declude give a good swift kick to your list server?

John T


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
 John T (lists)
 Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 12:31 PM
 To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] all_list.dat ?
 
 I think we all fully understand that now Andrew.
 
 John T
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
  Colbeck, Andrew
  Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 9:54 AM
  To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
  Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] all_list.dat ?
 
  Thanks, David.
 
  It's working fine here!
 
 
  Andrw 8)
 
 
 
 
 
 
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
   Behalf Of David Barker
   Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 9:29 AM
   To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
   Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] all_list.dat ?
  
   New all_list.dat available from the My Account page on
   Declude website.
  
   David Barker
   VP Operations  |  Declude
   Your Email Security is our business
   O: 978.499.2933  x7007
   F: 978.988.1311
   E: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  
  
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
   Behalf Of David Barker
   Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 9:52 AM
   To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
   Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] all_list.dat ?
  
   Sure, I will see what I can do for early next week.
  
   David Barker
   VP Operations  |  Declude
   Your Email Security is our business
   O: 978.499.2933  x7007
   F: 978.988.1311
   E: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  
  
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
   Behalf Of Colbeck, Andrew
   Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 7:42 PM
   To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
   Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] all_list.dat ?
  
   Hey, David.
  
   Any chance of seeing a refresh of all_list.dat ... It's been
   just about
   4 months since the last one.  Three or four times a year
   doesn't sound bad.
  
   Andrew 8)
  
  
  
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
 Of
Colbeck, Andrew
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 9:08 AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] all_list.dat ?
   
Thanks, David.
   
The early report is that it's working for me.
   
Andrew 8)
   
   
   
   
   
   
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
   Behalf Of
 David Barker
 Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 7:37 AM
 To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] all_list.dat ?

 New all_list.dat available on the My Account home page of
Declude. 18
 Jan 07 344kB

 David Barker
 Director of Product Management
 Your Email security is our business
 978.499.2933 office
 978.988.1311 fax
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
   Behalf Of
 Gary Steiner
 Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 4:30 PM
 To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] all_list.dat ?

 David (or any Declude people that may be reading),

 Any chance of seeing a new all_list.dat any time soon,
considering the
 current one has a date of 6 Jul 06, and considering the
   additional
 input from this recent thread?

 I'm starting to see false positives caused by weights I
   previously
 gave to IANA Reserved and RIPE Unlisted.

 Gary



  Original Message 
  From: Jay Sudowski - Handy Networks LLC
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 5:57 PM
  To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
  Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] [IANA Reserved] ?
 
  Indeed.  When we obtained our own IP space from ARIN,
   it was from
  72/8, which had been released only about 6 months prior
to it being
  assigned to us.  You wouldn't believe the number of
 networks that were
  running with 72/8 in their bogons list and were
   entirely blocking
  traffic from our network...
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of
  Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 3:47 PM
  To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
  Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] [IANA Reserved] ?
 
 
  I would be very careful with this.  IANA just released (I
believe in
  October) 96/8, 97/8, 98/8, 99/8.  With the all_list.dat
   not being
  updated frequently I would tred very lightly in this
area.  Part of
  96/8 has been handed out.
 
  Darrell
 

   
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  -
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] PCRE

2007-05-10 Thread John T \(lists\)
Linda, thanks for the Laugh.

How are you at making coffee? I haven't had my morning cup yet.

OOPS, mornings over already.

John T
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
 Linda Pagillo
 Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 11:59 AM
 To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
 Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] PCRE
 
 I'm here with you David. No need to feel alone :)
 
 If you have any further questions, please do not hesitate to contact me
 either by email or call Toll free 1-866-332-5833  Ext.7008
 
 Linda Pagillo
 Technical Support Engineer | Declude
 
 Your Email Security is our business
 
 Office: 978.499.2933  x7008
 Toll Free: 1-866.332.5833 x7008
 Fax: 978.334.0700
 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 - Original Message -
 From: David Barker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
 Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 1:28 PM
 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] PCRE
 
 
  Ok, either everyone has left or everyone is very happy because it is
 kind
 of
  quite. So I thought I would post something:
 
  Using PCRE here is an expression that will only match a valid IP
 address.
 
 
 (25[0-5]|2[0-4][0-9]|[01]?[0-9][0-9]?)\.(25[0-5]|2[0-4][0-9]|[01]?[0-
 9][0-9]
 
 ?)\.(25[0-5]|2[0-4][0-9]|[01]?[0-9][0-9]?)\.(25[0-5]|2[0-4][0-
 9]|[01]?[0-9][
  0-9]?)
 
  I guess this is useful for several reasons, currently I am just using
 it
 see
  if there is an IP in the REVDNS entry. Any thoughts on how this could
 be
  effectivley used ?
 
  David Barker
  VP Operations  |  Declude
  Your Email Security is our business
  O: 978.499.2933  x7007
  F: 978.988.1311
  E: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 
 
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Possible bug after upgrading to 4.3.46

2007-04-25 Thread John T \(lists\)
Same here, I do not see the download.

John T
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don
 Brown
 Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 2:41 AM
 To: David Barker
 Cc: declude.junkmail@declude.com
 Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Possible bug after upgrading to 4.3.46
 
 I don't see it in our interface.  Only online help is listed in the
 interim release section.  I have refreshed to clear cache and it's not
 there. . . .
 
 
 Tuesday, April 24, 2007, 2:29:47 PM, David Barker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 DB
 DB
 DB I have an interim release 4.3.47 which deals with the  HELO-
 DB this is available from the interim download  location.
 
 DB
 DB
 
 DB  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
 Of David Barker
 DB Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 10:56 AM
 DB To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
 DB Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Possible  bug after upgrading to
 4.3.46
 
 DB
 DB
 DB Hopefully I will have a status on time by the end of  today.
 
 DB
 DB
 
 DB  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
 Of John T (lists)
 DB Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 10:47 AM
 DB To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
 DB Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Possible  bug after upgrading to
 4.3.46
 
 DB
 DB
 DB
 DB David sent me an email this  morning saying they are working on it.
 DB
 DB
 DB
 DB
 DB John  T
 DB
 DB
 DB
 DB
 DB
 DB From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
 Of Andy Schmidt
 DB Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 7:41 AM
 DB To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
 DB Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Possible  bug after upgrading to
 4.3.46
 DB
 DB
 DB
 DB Have you been  given any estimate when a fix will be available?
 DB
 DB
 DB
 DB
 DB
 DB From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
 Of John T (lists)
 DB Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 10:10 AM
 DB To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
 DB Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Possible  bug after upgrading to
 4.3.46
 DB
 DB
 DB
 DB In my case, I am seeing more  spam get through because of filters
 DB using HELO were made ineffective AND more  false positives do to
 DB white filters using HELO became  ineffective.
 DB
 DB
 DB
 DB
 DB John  T
 DB
 DB
 DB
 DB
 DB
 DB From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
 Of Andy Schmidt
 DB Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 6:55 AM
 DB To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
 DB Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Possible  bug after upgrading to
 4.3.46
 DB
 DB
 DB
 DB Thanks John   so the most likely effect would be that more SPAM
 will get through if we
 DB
 DB
 DB
 DB a) have HELO based  filters
 DB
 DB b) have DNSBL lookups based on HELO  strings ?
 DB
 DB
 DB
 DB
 DB
 DB
 DB
 DB From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
 Of John T (lists)
 DB Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 3:28 AM
 DB To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
 DB Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Possible  bug after upgrading to
 4.3.46
 DB
 DB
 DB
 DB Just so everyone else is clear,  if you are using IPBYPASS in the
 DB Global.CFG file, the latest version of  Decludeproc.exe does not
 DB honor that list when it comes to the %HELO% variable.  Anyone
 DB using that variable in their filters needs to be aware of this bug
 DB and  review the log files to see if it is negatively affecting your
 filters.
 DB
 DB
 DB
 DB I have had to revert to an  earlier version because of this.
 DB
 DB
 DB
 DB
 DB John  T
 DB
 DB
 DB
 DB
 DB
 DB From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
 Of David Barker
 DB Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 10:05 AM
 DB To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
 DB Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Possible  bug after upgrading to
 4.3.46
 DB
 DB
 DB
 DB No  changes were made to the HELO for IMail, can you send some
 DB log lines to verify  this so I can look into it ?
 DB
 DB
 DB
 DB
 
 DB
 DB
 DB From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
 Of John T (lists)
 DB Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 11:46 AM
 DB To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
 DB Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Possible bug  after upgrading to 4.3.46
 DB
 DB Since upgrading to 4.3.46 yesterday, I have noticed that  Declude
 DB is not honoring the IP Skip list when it comes to what server it
 records  for the HELO.
 DB
 DB
 DB
 DB I have a IPBYPASS line for each of my incoming gateway  servers.
 DB
 DB
 DB
 DB %REVDNS% is correctly recording from the server before my  gateway
 servers.
 DB
 DB %REMOTEIP% is correctly recording from the server before my
 gateway servers.
 DB
 DB %HELO% is wrongly reporting the gateway server it was  received
 from.
 DB
 DB
 DB
 DB John  Tolmachoff
 DB
 DB eServices For  You
 DB
 DB [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 DB
 DB (626)  737-6003
 DB
 DB Fax (626)  737-6004
 DB
 DB
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Possible bug after upgrading to 4.3.46

2007-04-24 Thread John T \(lists\)
Just so everyone else is clear, if you are using IPBYPASS in the Global.CFG
file, the latest version of Decludeproc.exe does not honor that list when it
comes to the %HELO% variable. Anyone using that variable in their filters
needs to be aware of this bug and review the log files to see if it is
negatively affecting your filters.

 

I have had to revert to an earlier version because of this.

 

John T

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David
Barker
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 10:05 AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Possible bug after upgrading to 4.3.46

 

No changes were made to the HELO for IMail, can you send some log lines to
verify this so I can look into it ?

 

  _  

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John T
(lists)
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 11:46 AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Possible bug after upgrading to 4.3.46

Since upgrading to 4.3.46 yesterday, I have noticed that Declude is not
honoring the IP Skip list when it comes to what server it records for the
HELO.

 

I have a IPBYPASS line for each of my incoming gateway servers.

 

%REVDNS% is correctly recording from the server before my gateway servers.

%REMOTEIP% is correctly recording from the server before my gateway servers.

%HELO% is wrongly reporting the gateway server it was received from.

 

John Tolmachoff

eServices For You

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

(626) 737-6003

Fax (626) 737-6004

 


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Possible bug after upgrading to 4.3.46

2007-04-24 Thread John T \(lists\)
In my case, I am seeing more spam get through because of filters using HELO
were made ineffective AND more false positives do to white filters using
HELO became ineffective.

 

John T

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy
Schmidt
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 6:55 AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Possible bug after upgrading to 4.3.46

 

Thanks John - so the most likely effect would be that more SPAM will get
through if we 

 

a)   have HELO based filters

b)   have DNSBL lookups based on HELO strings  ?

 

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John T
(lists)
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 3:28 AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Possible bug after upgrading to 4.3.46

 

Just so everyone else is clear, if you are using IPBYPASS in the Global.CFG
file, the latest version of Decludeproc.exe does not honor that list when it
comes to the %HELO% variable. Anyone using that variable in their filters
needs to be aware of this bug and review the log files to see if it is
negatively affecting your filters.

 

I have had to revert to an earlier version because of this.

 

John T

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David
Barker
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 10:05 AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Possible bug after upgrading to 4.3.46

 

No changes were made to the HELO for IMail, can you send some log lines to
verify this so I can look into it ?

 

  _  

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John T
(lists)
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 11:46 AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Possible bug after upgrading to 4.3.46

Since upgrading to 4.3.46 yesterday, I have noticed that Declude is not
honoring the IP Skip list when it comes to what server it records for the
HELO.

 

I have a IPBYPASS line for each of my incoming gateway servers.

 

%REVDNS% is correctly recording from the server before my gateway servers.

%REMOTEIP% is correctly recording from the server before my gateway servers.

%HELO% is wrongly reporting the gateway server it was received from.

 

John Tolmachoff

eServices For You

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

(626) 737-6003

Fax (626) 737-6004

 


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Possible bug after upgrading to 4.3.46

2007-04-24 Thread John T \(lists\)
David sent me an email this morning saying they are working on it.

 

John T

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy
Schmidt
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 7:41 AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Possible bug after upgrading to 4.3.46

 

Have you been given any estimate when a fix will be available?

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John T
(lists)
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 10:10 AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Possible bug after upgrading to 4.3.46

 

In my case, I am seeing more spam get through because of filters using HELO
were made ineffective AND more false positives do to white filters using
HELO became ineffective.

 

John T

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy
Schmidt
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 6:55 AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Possible bug after upgrading to 4.3.46

 

Thanks John - so the most likely effect would be that more SPAM will get
through if we 

 

a)   have HELO based filters

b)   have DNSBL lookups based on HELO strings  ?

 

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John T
(lists)
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 3:28 AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Possible bug after upgrading to 4.3.46

 

Just so everyone else is clear, if you are using IPBYPASS in the Global.CFG
file, the latest version of Decludeproc.exe does not honor that list when it
comes to the %HELO% variable. Anyone using that variable in their filters
needs to be aware of this bug and review the log files to see if it is
negatively affecting your filters.

 

I have had to revert to an earlier version because of this.

 

John T

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David
Barker
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 10:05 AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Possible bug after upgrading to 4.3.46

 

No changes were made to the HELO for IMail, can you send some log lines to
verify this so I can look into it ?

 

  _  

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John T
(lists)
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 11:46 AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Possible bug after upgrading to 4.3.46

Since upgrading to 4.3.46 yesterday, I have noticed that Declude is not
honoring the IP Skip list when it comes to what server it records for the
HELO.

 

I have a IPBYPASS line for each of my incoming gateway servers.

 

%REVDNS% is correctly recording from the server before my gateway servers.

%REMOTEIP% is correctly recording from the server before my gateway servers.

%HELO% is wrongly reporting the gateway server it was received from.

 

John Tolmachoff

eServices For You

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

(626) 737-6003

Fax (626) 737-6004

 


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[Declude.JunkMail] Possible bug after upgrading to 4.3.46

2007-04-18 Thread John T \(lists\)
Since upgrading to 4.3.46 yesterday, I have noticed that Declude is not
honoring the IP Skip list when it comes to what server it records for the
HELO.

 

I have a IPBYPASS line for each of my incoming gateway servers.

 

%REVDNS% is correctly recording from the server before my gateway servers.

%REMOTEIP% is correctly recording from the server before my gateway servers.

%HELO% is wrongly reporting the gateway server it was received from.

 

John Tolmachoff

eServices For You

 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

(626) 737-6003

Fax (626) 737-6004

 



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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Warning re: DECLUDE - CRITICAL VIRUS SCANNING UPDATE

2007-04-16 Thread John T \(lists\)
FYI, this was resolved about 3 hours earlier and was reported on the Declude
Virus list.

 

As others have reported, re-download the upgrade installer and the missing
file will be there.

 

John T

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave
Doherty
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 4:12 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Warning re: DECLUDE - CRITICAL VIRUS SCANNING
UPDATE

 

I attempted to install this update on my server. The package is apparently
missing a DLL. The decludeproc service would not start, and the pop-up said
to contact support. The update email was issued at 5:15 PM, and Declude was
closed. I left a message.

 

I got back up and running by reinstalling the previous update and rebooting.

 

I strongly suggest that you DO NOT install this update until Declude can
figure out what's wrong with it!


-Dave Doherty
 Skywaves, Inc.
 97 Webster Street
 Worcester, MA 01603
 508-425-7176

 

 


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Warning re: DECLUDE - CRITICAL VIRUS SCANNING UPDATE

2007-04-16 Thread John T \(lists\)
The upgrade that came out today, 4.3.46, was specifically and pointedly only
to correct a problem with the built-in AVG scanner that was created by a
change AVG recently made.

 

John T

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave
Doherty
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 7:54 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Warning re: DECLUDE - CRITICAL VIRUS
SCANNING UPDATE

 

I did so, and the upgrade went fine this time.

 

So why did they restrict the distibution of the mod notice to the AV list
when they sent individual emails to notify of the initial upgrade?

 

This is more than annoying...

 

-d

- Original Message - 

From: John mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  T (lists) 

To: declude.junkmail@declude.com 

Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 8:18 PM

Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Warning re: DECLUDE - CRITICAL VIRUS
SCANNING UPDATE

 

FYI, this was resolved about 3 hours earlier and was reported on the Declude
Virus list.

 

As others have reported, re-download the upgrade installer and the missing
file will be there.

 

John T

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave
Doherty
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 4:12 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Warning re: DECLUDE - CRITICAL VIRUS SCANNING
UPDATE

 

I attempted to install this update on my server. The package is apparently
missing a DLL. The decludeproc service would not start, and the pop-up said
to contact support. The update email was issued at 5:15 PM, and Declude was
closed. I left a message.

 

I got back up and running by reinstalling the previous update and rebooting.

 

I strongly suggest that you DO NOT install this update until Declude can
figure out what's wrong with it!


-Dave Doherty
 Skywaves, Inc.
 97 Webster Street
 Worcester, MA 01603
 508-425-7176

 

 


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Vulnerability in RPC on Windows DNS Server Could Allow Remote Code Execution

2007-04-13 Thread John T \(lists\)
But from what I read last night, it is only serious if some one is running a MS 
DNS server that is not behind a firewall or otherwise has the range of ports in 
question open from the Internet.

John T
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
 Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
 Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 7:08 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Vulnerability in RPC on Windows DNS Server
 Could Allow Remote Code Execution
 
 FYI - This looks pretty serious and will probably affect most of us.
 
 This alert is to notify you that Microsoft has released Security
 Advisory
 935964 - Vulnerability in RPC on Windows DNS Server Could Allow Remote
 Code
 Execution - on 12 April 2007.
 
 Summary:
 
 Microsoft is investigating new public reports of a limited attack
 exploiting
 a vulnerability in the Domain Name System (DNS) Server Service in
 Microsoft
 Windows 2000 Server Service Pack 4, Windows Server 2003 Service Pack 1,
 and
 Windows Server 2003 Service Pack 2. Microsoft Windows 2000 Professional
 Service Pack 4, Windows XP Service Pack 2, and Windows Vista are not
 affected as these versions do not contain the vulnerable code.
 
 Microsoft's initial investigation reveals that the attempts to exploit
 this
 vulnerability could allow an attacker to run code in the security
 context of
 the Domain Name System Server Service, which by default runs as Local
 SYSTEM.
 
 Upon completion of this investigation, Microsoft will take appropriate
 action to help protect our customers. This may include providing a
 security
 update through our monthly release process or providing an out-of-cycle
 security update, depending on customer needs.
 
 Recommendations:
 
 Review Microsoft Security Advisory 935964 for an overview of the issue,
 details on affected components, mitigating factors, suggested actions,
 frequently asked questions (FAQ) and links to additional resources.
 
 Customers who believe they are affected can contact Product Support
 Services. Contact Product Support Services in North America for help
 with
 security update issues or viruses at no charge using the PC Safety line
 (1-866-PCSAFETY). International customers can use any method found at
 this
 location: http://support.microsoft.com/security.
 
 International customers can receive support from their local Microsoft
 subsidiaries. There is no charge for support that is associated with
 security updates. For more information about how to contact Microsoft
 for
 support issues, visit the International Support Web site:
 http://support.microsoft.com/common/international.aspx.
 
 Additional Resources:
 
 *  Microsoft Security Advisory 935964 - Vulnerability in RPC on Windows
 DNS
 Server Could Allow Remote Code Execution -
 http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/advisory/935964.mspx
 
 *  MSRC Blog:
 http://blogs.technet.com/msrc/
 
 Note: check the MSRC Blog periodically as new information may appear
 there.
 
 Regarding Information Consistency:
 
 We strive to provide you with accurate information in static (this
 mail) and
 dynamic (web-based) content. Security Advisories posted to the web are
 occasionally updated to reflect late-breaking information. If this
 results
 in an inconsistency between the information here and the information in
 the
 web-based Security Advisory, the information in the web-based Security
 Advisory is authoritative.
 
 If you have any questions regarding this alert please contact your
 Technical
 Account Manager or Application Development Consultant.
 
 Thank you,
 Microsoft PSS Security Team
 
 
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 mxGuard, and ORF.  IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, SURBL/URI
 integration, MRTG Integration, and Log Parsers.
 
 
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail Anti-spam

2007-04-11 Thread John T \(lists\)
What, David, biased? Shock. Who would have thought.

;-)

John T
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
 David Barker
 Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 9:33 AM
 To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail Anti-spam
 
 None of Imails features. But then I am probably biased ;)
 
 David Barker
 Director of Product Management
 Your Email security is our business
 978.499.2933 office
 978.988.1311 fax
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
 Chuck
 Schick
 Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 12:33 PM
 To: Declude. JunkMail
 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail Anti-spam
 
 We are running IMAIL 8.22 and I am looking at the Anti-spam features.
 We
 are also running declude.  Which Anti-spam features do people find good
 to
 turn on in Imail versus Declude?
 
 Chuck Schick
 Warp 8, Inc.
 (303)-421-5140
 www.warp8.com
 
 
 
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Spam gateway/proxy...

2007-04-11 Thread John T \(lists\)
My Imail server is behind 3 Windows 2003 servers running IIS SMTP virtual
server which are acting as a gateway. They all have ORF installed and ORF is
blocking about 75% of the spam and viruses coming in purely by simple rules
and policies.

John T


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
 Chuck Schick
 Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 12:27 PM
 To: Declude. JunkMail
 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Spam gateway/proxy...
 
 Anyone using a spam gateway (Like IMGATE) or proxy (like ASSP) in front
 of
 declude.
 
 I am intrigued by the idea of using something that will reject the
 messages
 before accepting it for delivery and then scanning it.  I would only
 want to
 use the gateway/proxy to perform graylisting, Sender Validation, tar
 pitting.  According to Len Conrad this could result in a 70 to 90
 percent
 reduction in spam.
 
 Ultimately I would like our spam filtering to be where we reject the
 message
 before the data command and messages that we do accept for delivery we
 scan
 with declude and if it is identified as spam it will be delivered to a
 junkmail folder in the users mailbox - which they can check via webmail
 or
 configure their mail clients to download it.  I want to get out of the
 business of holding or deleting spam.
 
 Any thoughts, comments, ...? what have others done.
 
 Chuck Schick
 Warp 8, Inc.
 (303)-421-5140
 www.warp8.com
 
 
 
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SNMP / Smarter Mail 4

2007-03-21 Thread John T \(lists\)
Better get out the fluoride toothpaste.

;)

Sorry, could not resist.

John T

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
 Michael Cummins
 Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 2:09 PM
 To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] SNMP / Smarter Mail 4
 
 I'll probably get ridiculed but I recently discovered the joys of SNMP and
 I
 found myself thinking wouldn't it be cool if I could use SNMP to keep
 track
 Declude performance?
 
 You know: queue sizes, number of threads, memory used, all that.
 
 I already steal and parse the handy information out of the persistent
 sniffer text file every few minutes, but doing an SNMP GET on a Declude
 OID
 would be really handy.
 
 ...or am I just a greedy kid in a candy store?
 
 -- Michael Cummins
 
 
 
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] PCRE FILTERING

2007-03-14 Thread John T \(lists\)
  This was an old, old feature request/bug fix from back in the
  Scott days, where it was desired not include encoded base64
 
 I requested this as a change long ago for two reasons:
 
 1) To avoid false positives where search text matches the MIME or UUENCODE
 formatting
 
 2) To provide an instant speed up in BODY and ANYWHERE processing because
 Declude has less text to match, in particular when MIME encoding text is
 being searched for, say, an encoded PDF, DOC or JPG.
 
 It may also have the additional benefit of being more accurate:
 
 3) To provide for fewer false negatives, because the string size is more
 complete with the body text.

Giving a third to what Andrew and Matt have said, I have a client that deals
in electronic parts. Electronic part numbers take on all forms of sequences
and not being able to limit body searches to non-base64 encoding which is
primarily attachments has caused a lot of extra work on my part constantly
having to make adjustments to counter this problem.

Being able to have BODY not include attachments is coming to the point where
it is no longer a feature but a requirement.

John T




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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] IMail 2006.2 Known Issues with Declude...

2007-03-07 Thread John T \(lists\)
No problems seen on my server.

John T


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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike
 Hardrick
 Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 2:01 PM
 To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] IMail 2006.2 Known Issues with Declude...
 
 Are there any Known Issues with the new version of
 IMail v2006.2 and Declude?
 
 Michael Hardrick
 TNWEB LLC
 Middle Tennessee ISP
 
 
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Help: Domain not found

2007-02-26 Thread John T \(lists\)
At least for the night.

John T
 
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Serge
Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 8:19 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Help: Domain not found

DUH !!!
I read this several time and didn't catch it.
I think it is time for me to retire.  
Thanks
 
 
- Original Message - 
From: Michael Jaworski 
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com 
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 4:00 AM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Help: Domain not found

Is the example the same as the original?? Malivision is misspelled, missing
an i.

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Serge
Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 7:32 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com; Imail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Help: Domain not found

I have a client having problems sending emails to some servers
No thank you rejected: Domain not found
DNSSTUFF shows no major problem with malivision.com
Would appreciate any help to resolve this issue
 
 
20070226 183127 127.0.0.1   SMTP (276b023cf3f9) Trying mail.com (0)
20070226 183128 127.0.0.1   SMTP (276b023cf3f9) Connect mail.com
[208.36.123.68:25] (1)
20070226 183130 127.0.0.1   SMTP (276b023cf3f9) 220
spf8.us4.outblaze.com ESMTP Postfix
20070226 183130 127.0.0.1   SMTP (276b023cf3f9) EHLO mail.cefib.com
20070226 183131 127.0.0.1   SMTP (276b023cf3f9)
250-spf8.us4.outblaze.com
20070226 183131 127.0.0.1   SMTP (276b023cf3f9) 250-PIPELINING
20070226 183131 127.0.0.1   SMTP (276b023cf3f9) 250-SIZE 1024
20070226 183131 127.0.0.1   SMTP (276b023cf3f9) 250-ETRN
20070226 183131 127.0.0.1   SMTP (276b023cf3f9) 250 8BITMIME
20070226 183131 127.0.0.1   SMTP (276b023cf3f9) MAIL
FROM:philippe  @  malivsion.com
20070226 183131 127.0.0.1   SMTP (276b023cf3f9) 250 Ok
20070226 183131 127.0.0.1   SMTP (276b023cf3f9) RCPT To:mathioye 
@  mail.com
20070226 183132 127.0.0.1   SMTP (276b023cf3f9) 550 philippe  @
malivsion.com: No thank you rejected: Domain not found
20070226 183132 127.0.0.1   SMTP (276b023cf3f9) QUIT
 
 

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc.ex Faulting Applicaction

2007-02-19 Thread John T \(lists\)
What does the Declude Junkmail or Virus log say?

 

John T

 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Luis
Alberto Arango E.
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 7:51 AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc.ex Faulting Applicaction

 

By the way, declude stopped scanning since the errors started. My proc is
holding thousands of messages now. I have reinstall declude, installed older
versions and the error keep showing up in the eventlog.

 

 

Luis Arango

 


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Sent: lunes, 19 de febrero de 2007 10:23
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc.ex Faulting Applicaction

starting yesterday feb 18 at 3:33 am (ET) I get errors from decludeproc.exe
every 10 to 15 seconds.. the error is as follows:

 

Faulting application decludeproc.exe, version 0.0.0.0, faulting module
unknown, version 0.0.0.0, fault address 0x20202020

 

I am running Imail and decludeproc version 3.13 under windows 2003

 

Any ideas..

 

Luis Arango


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] NOTIFY=FAILURE,DELAY

2007-02-15 Thread John T \(lists\)
Some one requested a delivery receipt.

John T

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Serge
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 2:55 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] NOTIFY=FAILURE,DELAY


Can someone explain what this failure mean ?
Also, even though i sent this message from oe, and configured my server as 
smtp server, aparently, the isp intercepted the message, and sent it from 
smtp.neuf.fr
Is this policy widely used ?


20070215 222434 127.0.0.1   SMTPD (dda202070335) [217.170.144.6] 
connect 84.96.92.11 port 39910
20070215 222435 127.0.0.1   SMTPD (dda202070335) [84.96.92.11] EHLO 
smtp.Neuf.fr
20070215 222435 127.0.0.1   SMTPD (dda202070335) [84.96.92.11] MAIL 
FROM:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
20070215 222435 127.0.0.1   SMTPD (dda202070335) [84.96.92.11] RCPT 
TO:[EMAIL PROTECTED] NOTIFY=FAILURE,DELAY ORCPT=rfc822;[EMAIL PROTECTED]
20070215 222437 127.0.0.1   SMTPD (dda202070335) [84.96.92.11] 
F:\Imail\spool\Ddda202070335.SMD 36608
20070215 222437 127.0.0.1   SMTPD (dda202070335) performing antispam

checks
20070215 222458 127.0.0.1   SMTP (dda202070335) processing 
F:\Imail\spool\qdda202070335.smd
20070215 222459 127.0.0.1   SMTP (dda202070335) forwarded message to

[EMAIL PROTECTED] using new file: ddba0968e973
20070215 222459 127.0.0.1   SMTP (dda202070335) finished 
F:\Imail\spool\qdda202070335.smd status=1



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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] [Declude.JunkMail] IMail 2006.2

2007-02-12 Thread John T \(lists\)
What vulnerability in 2006.1 are you referring to? AFAIK, there is none.

John T

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike N
Sent: Monday, February 12, 2007 9:44 AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 2006.2

Especially since 2006.2 fixes a vulnerabilty in 2006.1 - we'll have to roll 
it out quickly.

- Original Message - 
From: Scott Fisher [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Sent: Monday, February 12, 2007 12:28 PM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 2006.2


 It would be nice to know.

 - Original Message - 
 From: David Barker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
 Sent: Monday, February 12, 2007 11:05 AM
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 2006.2


 We have not tested against IMail 2006.2



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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] [Declude.JunkMail] IMail 2006.2

2007-02-12 Thread John T \(lists\)
AFAIK, there is no change in the SMTP service in IMail 2006.2 compared to
IMail 2006.1, so there will be no problem running any version of Declude on
2006.2 that runs on 2006.1.

 

John T

 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stephan
Sent: Monday, February 12, 2007 9:03 AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 2006.2

 

Has anyone tested declude (latest version) with imail 2006.2 (it is
available from the ipswitch preview forum and is scheduled for release on
March 6)? Any issues?
I emailed Declude support to ask if it had been tested but didn't get a
response.

Thanks.


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] [Declude.JunkMail] IMail 2006.2

2007-02-12 Thread John T \(lists\)
Interesting. I guess those were not previously publicly disclosed.

John T


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike N
Sent: Monday, February 12, 2007 11:43 AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] [Declude.JunkMail] IMail 2006.2

From the release notes -

Addressed the following security vulnerabilities (identified by iDefense 
Labs):
[IDEF2159] IMailServer.WebConnect Buffer Overflow Vulnerability
[IDEF2160] IMail Server 2006 IMailLDAPService.Sync3 Heap Overflow 
Vulnerability
[IDEF2161] IMail Server 2006 IMailLDAPService.Init3 Heap Overflow 
Vulnerability
[IDEF2162] IMail Server 2006 IMailServer.Connect Buffer
[IDEF2163] IMail Server 2006 IMailUserCollection.SetReplyTo Buffer Overflow 
Vulnerability

Remote exploitation of an ActiveX control buffer overflow vulnerability in 
IMail Server 2006 could allow attackers to execute arbitrary code with the 
credentials of the user visiting a malicious website. To exploit this issue,

a user would have to visit a malicious website from a computer with IMail 
Server installed on it.The vulnerable component is also likely installed 
with any IPSwitch product that includes the IMail Server. This includes 
products such as its Collaboration Suite packages.

- Original Message - 
From: John T (lists) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Sent: Monday, February 12, 2007 2:16 PM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] [Declude.JunkMail] IMail 2006.2


What vulnerability in 2006.1 are you referring to? AFAIK, there is none.

John T

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike N
Sent: Monday, February 12, 2007 9:44 AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 2006.2

Especially since 2006.2 fixes a vulnerabilty in 2006.1 - we'll have to roll
it out quickly.

- Original Message - 
From: Scott Fisher [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Sent: Monday, February 12, 2007 12:28 PM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 2006.2


 It would be nice to know.

 - Original Message - 
 From: David Barker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
 Sent: Monday, February 12, 2007 11:05 AM
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 2006.2


 We have not tested against IMail 2006.2



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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SmarterMail Admins - Relay Hole

2007-02-07 Thread John T \(lists\)
Well, might be news to you but Imail has the same problem. There was
discussion about this on the Imail list awhile back and IIRC Kevin said it
is now on the list of features to be added.

 

John T

 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael
Jaworski
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 6:30 AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] SmarterMail Admins - Relay Hole

 

We have been using Declude, Sniffer and invURIBL for years now with great
success. But yesterday we got bit by a phish attack through SmarterMail.
They used SMPT authentication to bypass all the time and money we spent on
defenses against the bad guys. The root of the problem:  SmarterMail is
lacking simple password rules.  For more of the story see: 

 

http://forums.smartertools.com/forums/27627/ShowThread.aspx#27627

 

Michael


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Need hep - mail server sending out stock reports email

2007-02-07 Thread John T \(lists\)
Since you are using Declude, start using Hijack NOW! That is for starters.
Review the logs to see where the IP is and block that IP.

 

John T

 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Howard
Smith (N.O.R.A.D.)
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 2:24 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Need hep - mail server sending out stock reports
email

 

Running  imail  8.15,sniffer and declude  - starting  on 2/6/7 my mail
server start sending out the stock reports email , even when I stop the
imail smtp process , nothing is in the Imail logs indicating problems . I
have ran full scans with frprot  and Symantec .

 

Need help please  , I have already made the spamcop blacklist

 

 

Howard Smith

N.O.R.A.D. Inc.

P.O. Box 680116

Miami, Florida 33168  

www.norad.com http://www.norad.com/  

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Office - (305) NETWORK (638-9675)

Sales - (786) 206-0045

Fax 1 - (305) 359-5144

 



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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Need hep - mail server sending out stock reports email

2007-02-07 Thread John T \(lists\)
Going aGoogling found that the Intel LANDesk uses a file called ssm.exe and
there are a couple of programs listed as monitors using it, so be careful
before just deleting that file.

 

Exactly where was the file?

 

Since Howard is running IMail 8.15 this means that his server has been
compromised ala the SMTP vulnerability that is fixed only in 8.22 (patched)
and 9.1. So, it is not a virus that would be found by F-prot or Symantec,
but a server hijack or comprise.

 

John T

 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Justin
Moose
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 3:11 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Need hep - mail server sending out stock
reports email

 

I called Howard on this, but for everyone else's info, if you are seeing
this, look for ssm.exe to be a running process.  I found this on an Imail
server that I administer for another company this morning.  The file was
showing processing time in the task manager and showed up on the Services
list at Security Systems Manager, but the file had a modified date of 2/5/07
and no updated had been done on that server for over a week. Stopping this
service stopped the junk messages from going out.

 

Neither F-prot or Symantec showed this file as a virus; however I did submit
it to Symantec for analysis.

 

Justin Moose
Information Technology Manager
Sioux Valley Energy
DID: (605) 256-1644
Fax: (605) 256-1690
Toll Free: (800) 234 1960

 

  _  

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Howard
Smith (N.O.R.A.D.)
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 4:24 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Need hep - mail server sending out stock reports
email

 

Running  imail  8.15,sniffer and declude  - starting  on 2/6/7 my mail
server start sending out the stock reports email , even when I stop the
imail smtp process , nothing is in the Imail logs indicating problems . I
have ran full scans with frprot  and Symantec .

 

Need help please  , I have already made the spamcop blacklist

 

 

Howard Smith

N.O.R.A.D. Inc.

P.O. Box 680116

Miami, Florida 33168  

www.norad.com http://www.norad.com/  

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Office - (305) NETWORK (638-9675)

Sales - (786) 206-0045

Fax 1 - (305) 359-5144

 



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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hijack with latest Declude 4.2.23 Imail

2007-02-05 Thread John T \(lists\)
Deccon.exe is a Declude file no longer used.

You restart the DecludeProc.exe.

John T

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike
Wiegers
Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 8:25 AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Hijack with latest Declude 4.2.23  Imail

I couldn't find this information. I just upgraded to the latest Declude from
1.82 and I use to have to restart IMail deccon.exe to reset Hijack and I did
find it's not used in this version. How do I now reset the counter for
Hijack.

Thanks,
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Slipping through Declude

2007-02-03 Thread John T \(lists\)
What version of Declude?

Is that the entire message?

Have you reviewed the IMail SMTP log for the message, and check of a queue
run just happened to fire at that time?

John T

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Keith
Johnson
Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 1:09 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Slipping through Declude

It has been rare, although not uncommon, that from time to time I will see
emails slip through and not scanned by Declude, however, today I have gotten
5 in a row carrying the same, or similar, body information and no insertion
of X-tags.  I have attached a header that illustrates this.  Is anyone else
seeing this same type of email come through your system unscanned?  I have
sent this off to Declude Support for further looks. 
 
-Keith


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Specific filter for individual users

2007-01-24 Thread John T \(Lists\)
Correct.

Now, some advice. I have created a script I use when ever I make changes to
tests including adding or removing. This script then updates the Global.cfg
file and the $default$.junkmail file as well as any other .junkmail files
that are per user or per domain. 

If you are going to use per domain or per user .junkmail files, you may want
to consider this so they do not get forgotten.

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 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelly
Scotto
 Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 10:07 AM
 To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Specific filter for individual users
 
 Just to be sure, I don't have to add a path that points to the xyz.com
 subfolder I added in the Declude folder. All I did was create the
subfolder
 xyz.com, then copied the junkmail file and changed the name to
 customer.default.junkmail. Then I lowered the weights for these individual
 customers. Does this sound correct?
 
 Thank you,
 
 Kelly
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelly
 Scotto
 Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 4:38 PM
 To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Specific filter for individual users
 
 Thank you Gary
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary
 Steiner
 Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 3:41 PM
 To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
 Subject: re: [Declude.JunkMail] Specific filter for individual users
 
 What you will have to do is set up a $default$.junkmail file for each user
 that wants a unique configuration.  Check out

http://manuals.declude.com/ProcOnlineHelp/JunkMail_4.0.8_Per-User_Configurat
 ion.htm
 
 
 
  Original Message 
  From: Kelly Scotto [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 1:04 PM
  To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
  Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Specific filter for individual users
 
  Can someone show an example of how to create individual filters for
  different users. I have a few customers who would like stronger
  filtering, for instance I delete at a weight of 8. For some users I
  would like to delete at 6.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  Kelly Scotto
  Assistant Network Administrator
  Speedee Cash Management
  850-682-0475 ext. 1801
 
 
 
 
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Windows 2003 X64 Operating System

2007-01-16 Thread John T \(Lists\)
There is some one on the Imail Forum that was complaining about lack of
support in Imail for x64. You may want to do a search on that to review it.

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 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Justin
 Moose
 Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 8:35 AM
 To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Windows 2003 X64 Operating System
 
 We are looking at replacing our current Imail server.  I am looking at
 the choice of the Windows 2003 x64 platform and I am wondering if anyone
 on this list is running Imail/Declude/Sniffer on that platform?  If so
 have you encountered any problems due to the 64bit architecture?
 
 
 Thank you,
 
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] roconner -can he be stopped???

2007-01-05 Thread John T \(Lists\)
There was a major problem caused by roconner on the Declude Virus list
today.

 

John T

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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jay
Sudowski - Handy Networks LLC
Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 10:22 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] roconner -can he be stopped???

 

?

  _  

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Harry
Vanderzand
Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 4:30 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] roconner -can he be stopped???

 

 

 

Harry Vanderzand 
inTown Internet  Computer Services 
11 Belmont Ave. W., Kitchener, ON,N2M 1L2
519-741-1222

 


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Valid Senders - Best Declude Practices

2006-12-28 Thread John T \(Lists\)
Does SmarterMail allow you to create aliases for a domain, such as
[EMAIL PROTECTED] is an alias for [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Michael
 Cummins
 Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 1:44 PM
 To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Valid Senders - Best Declude Practices
 
 OK.
 
 I have a box that I use as an incoming relay for about 30 or so Exchange
 servers that all live out in the wild.  I run Smarter Mail, Declude,
Message
 Sniffer, INVURIBL, F-Prot and all kinds of good stuff before I pass it
along
 to the Exchange server with SmarterMail domain forwarding.
 
 I am getting my ass kicked by volume because the mail server accepts any
 address and forwards it along; most of which of course are addresses that
 don't exist.
 
 I'm building a gateway box in the near future, which will help keep the
 incoming fluff down a bit, I'm sure, but what I really need to do is to
 implement some kind of valid recipient list.  I doubt that I'll be able to
 LDAP all over God's green earth with any kind of reliability or speed.
 
 Since the gateway won't be implemented for a few weeks, I'm been playing
 with things to get ready for it, namely, how to get valid sender lists
from
 such a disparate group of Exchange servers.
 
 So.
 
 I patched together this VBscript that exports a list of exchange addresses
 using LDAP into a text file.
 
 It runs as a WinCron job.
 
 I created a batch file that uploads it to one of my Cold Fusion servers.
 
 That runs as a WinCron job, too.
 
 I wrote a Cold Fusion script that looks for these silly text files every
so
 many minutes and then parses the crappy, cluttered thing into a nice clean
 CSV for me, and now I can do anything I want with it.  I imagine that
 someday I'll use it in conjunction with the gateway, but hey, I have this
 information right now.
 
 What would be the best way to use this information with Declude?
 
 Ideally, it should be implemented on a per domain basis, in case I can't
get
 some Exchange servers to play nice with me.  Eventually I suppose it will
be
 mandatory, I'm sure, but not right now when I am coming up with best
 practices, eh?
 
 So do I set up each text file for each domain as a separate filter?  And
 then only use it in the applicable per domain junkmail file?
 
 Is that the best way to do it?
 
 Or am I making Declude work too hard?
 
 I would really love any suggestions you might have.  Thanks!
 
 -- Michael Cummins
 
 
 
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Upgraded to Security Suite - Whitelist stopped working.

2006-12-22 Thread John T \(Lists\)
You said it is being skipped. What does the junkmail log say?

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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
 S.J.Stanaitis
 Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 5:59 AM
 To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
 Cc: 'Linda Pagillo'
 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Upgraded to Security Suite - Whitelist stopped
working.
 
 When I previously ran the 3.x version of Declude Junkmail, I used an
 external file for my white-list.  I transferred it over to the new
Security
 Suite but haven't had any luck, it just gets skipped and whitelisted
 addresses get tested like any other.
 
 In my Global.cfg file I have the line:
 WHITELISTFILE D:\Imail\Declude\filters\whitelist.txt
 
 In that file I have a few domains but mainly email addresses listed:
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 etc...
 
 I'd check the docs but... :)  Any suggestions?
 
 Thanks,
 Sam
 
 SJ.Stanaitis - Network Administrator
 Decorative Product Source E-commerce Network
 (877)-650-8054 x160
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Solution for tooo much junkmail?

2006-12-22 Thread John T \(Lists\)
 I'd like to be more proactive and go on an education crusade to provide
 folks with the knowledge of how to detect if their systems are infected
and
 what to do about it, but I have no idea of what to look for or what
software
 to use to fix it.

You're going to educate:
1. Little ole' Mrs. Smith who only uses her computer to view pictures of
her grandkids and to get email.
2. Tom the all-league quarter back football star who only does research for
football scholarships. Well yeah also to chat with his friends. And do keep
up on the latest tunes.
3. The geek up the street who listens to Leo Laporte and chats about how so
many people are on the Internet and don't have a clue about which MB is the
best for the hot on-line games and how they waste so much money on things
like AV and firewalls.
4. Mrs. Jones who searches for new recopies about fried dumplings and to get
the latest entertainment world gossip.
5. The small business owner who gets email and his website as part of the
$35 per month DSL package at the shop but his workers don't go on the
Internet so there is nothing to worry about.

More power to ya.

 Anyone with some leads on finding the ultimate sources that's creating all
 these zombies??

And if you could then what? Unless you want to be a vigilante the government
(politicians, courts, lawyers, no wait not lawyers they stick up for them)
will just shake their finger at them and say No No No you must be good boys
and girls)

Remember people, if the battle against spam and viruses was that easy, the
war would be over by now.

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] WAY OT: Registry Repair

2006-12-19 Thread John T \(Lists\)
ERD Commander will let you edit the registry directly as well. However,
their licensing scheme now makes use of their more recent versions
prohibitive.

 

John T

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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Colbeck,
Andrew
Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 12:09 AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] WAY OT: Registry Repair

 

Hmm, I've no faith that regedit will report a permissions problem as such
and not as a generic error.

 

I noted that you said in your first post that you also tried to
rename/delete the parent tree but you get an error when it gets to the Run
key.

 

Did you use the Advanced button at the level:

 

 

In order to take Ownership, and apply to the children, so that you certainly
have privileges?

 

Have you tried to remove the key this way:

 

reg delete HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run /f

 

Have you tried it as SYSTEM by closing all copies of regedit and doing this
from the console session (in case you're using RDP):

 

at 9:00AM /interactive c:\windows\regedit.exe

 

to get a copy of regedit.exe running as the SYSTEM account?

 

Beyond that, um, no, I've never heard of a 3rd party tool that can edit the
registry file directly.  If you boot from an install CD, you can choose the
first Repair option to repair the various hives, but whether that does a
check and correct to really fix a corrupt file, I don't know.

 

Andrew 8)

 

 


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy
Schmidt
Sent: Monday, December 18, 2006 9:48 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] WAY OT: Registry Repair

Yes, if it was that easy. Initially I had also figured it was just a
permission problem.

 

Eventually, I looked closer and realized that I never do get any message
that seems to imply permission problems - the message is always that the key
cannot be opened. 

 

Even trying to acess the Permissions gives me the open error - NO chance to
perform any permission functions.

 

When I access the permissions of the parent key and try to reset the child
permissions (or just Child ownership) - I get an error when indicating that
it can't do so for Run.

 

 

- Original Message - 

From: Colbeck, Andrew mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  

To: declude.junkmail@declude.com 

Sent: Monday, December 18, 2006 06:33 PM

Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] WAY OT: Registry Repair

 

Andy, five will get you ten that it is the permissions that are mangled, not
the key itself.

 

Run RegEdit.exe and right-click on the Run key, then choose Permissions.

 

Go into the Advanced button and choose to Inherit from parent... and the
permissions should get fixed up.

 

You should see:

 

AllowUsers (local machine name)  Read

AllowPower Users (local machine name)Special

AllowAdministrators (local machine name) Full Control

AllowSYSTEM  Full Control

AllowCREATOR OWNER   Full Control

 

 

Aside from administrative error, the only times I've seen the permissions
modified on this part of the registry is if the bad guys are trying to
retain control of a 'bot.

 

Andrew 8)

 

 

 


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy
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Sent: Monday, December 18, 2006 3:01 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] WAY OT: Registry Repair

Hi,

 

noticed today that 

 

HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run 

 

no longer opens (while logged on as the workstation's admin). I can export
the parent key - which will contain everything EXCEPT the run key. But,
then I can neither delete or rename the run key. Renaming/deleting the
parent will appear to work at first - until it reaches the Run subkey -
then it will again report that it cannot access that key.

 

So - I am suspecting that the Run key is corrupt. It can't be read, edited,
deleted or renamed.  I looked at some registry repair tools, but they all
seem to be Registry Optimizing tools in disguise that fix logical problems
in the registry (registries with too much or supposedly bad information).

 

Does anyone know of a tool (for XP) that will allow me to eliminate this bad
key from the registry index somehow so that I can just reimport the rest
of the parent key?

 

Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206 

 


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] WAY OT: Registry Repair

2006-12-18 Thread John T \(Lists\)
Did you try right clicking on it and going into permissions?

 

How about restarting in Safe Mode and then accessing it?

 

John T

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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy
Schmidt
Sent: Monday, December 18, 2006 3:01 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] WAY OT: Registry Repair

 

Hi,

 

noticed today that 

 

HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run 

 

no longer opens (while logged on as the workstation's admin). I can export
the parent key - which will contain everything EXCEPT the run key. But,
then I can neither delete or rename the run key. Renaming/deleting the
parent will appear to work at first - until it reaches the Run subkey -
then it will again report that it cannot access that key.

 

So - I am suspecting that the Run key is corrupt. It can't be read, edited,
deleted or renamed.  I looked at some registry repair tools, but they all
seem to be Registry Optimizing tools in disguise that fix logical problems
in the registry (registries with too much or supposedly bad information).

 

Does anyone know of a tool (for XP) that will allow me to eliminate this bad
key from the registry index somehow so that I can just reimport the rest
of the parent key?

 

Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206 

 


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Interesting ORF stats

2006-12-15 Thread John T \(Lists\)
Now, to be fair, I am only using ORF for very simple blocking and I am only
using the following list of tests, so comparing my ORF stats with Alligate
is not appropriate:

Malformed HELO
HELO matches recipient domain
Valid REVDNS
Sender blacklist, either domain or email address
Attachment blocking policy
Valid recipient
F-Prot scanning 

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 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jay
 Sudowski - Handy Networks LLC
 Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 9:48 AM
 To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Interesting ORF stats
 
 Ditto!  95%+ with Alligate.
 
 -Jay
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nick
 Hayer
 Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 9:42 AM
 To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
 Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Interesting ORF stats
 
 
 Hi John,
 
 John T (Lists) wrote:
  I have 3 gateway servers running IIS with ORF. These are my MX records
 for
  all my domains.
 
  ORF has identified and blocked 71% of incoming email on my primary
 gateway.
  ORF has identified and blocked 81% of incoming email on my secondary
  gateway.
 I see the secondaries get more traffic as well - although I am not sure
 its deliberate or its the zombies do not know better -
 [Regretfully I have abandoned ORF for the Alligate gateway. I am in the
 high nineties  96%+ with Brian's product...]
 
 -Nick
 
 
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Message Storage

2006-12-14 Thread John T \(Lists\)
The Imail CopyAll account will work, along with Imail Rules on that account.

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William
 Stillwell
 Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 10:26 AM
 To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Message Storage
 
 
 Does anybody know of a product (that doesn't cost a arm, and three legs)
 that will archive all email for a specific domain for x number of years?
 Imail CopyAll Will not work.. No way to orginize all the email, and I
 don't want to archive the spam...
 
 
 
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[Declude.JunkMail] OT: Interesting Discussions

2006-12-14 Thread John T \(Lists\)
Please, no one take this the wrong way, it is only meant in fun:

I actually miss the twice annual entertaining discussions on the Imail forum
between Scott and Len with Sandy added for spice.

Popcorn anyone?

;-)

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[Declude.JunkMail] Interesting ORF stats

2006-12-14 Thread John T \(Lists\)
I have 3 gateway servers running IIS with ORF. These are my MX records for
all my domains.

ORF has identified and blocked 71% of incoming email on my primary gateway.
ORF has identified and blocked 81% of incoming email on my secondary
gateway. (Interesting in that my primary and secondary carry the same value
in their MX records although my primary handles all outgoing as well.)
ORF has identified and blocked 94% of incoming email to my third gateway,
which has a lower value and is on a slow IDSL line.

Goes to prove spammers are still trying the lowest priority MX record to get
around spam filters.

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] testfailed in filters

2006-12-09 Thread John T \(Lists\)
Weight tests are last. What are you trying to do?

Maybe something like this?

MINWEIGHTTOFAIL 10
TESTSFAILED END CONTAINS TESTA

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 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Serge
 Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 11:19 PM
 To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] testfailed in filters
 
 Hi all
 
 I am trying to write a filter file so it fails if:
 Messgae did not fail TESTA
 WEIGHT  10
 
 I tried
 TESTSFAILED END CONTAINS TESTA
 TESTSFAILED 0 CONTAINS WEIGHT10
 
 The above did not work
 I assume all Weight tests are added to TESTFAILED after all other test are
 processed? even if the filter line is after Weight10 in global.cfg.
 Am i correct ?
 and, how to achieve what i am trying to do ?
 
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] testfailed in filters

2006-12-09 Thread John T \(Lists\)
 I've requested a SKIPIFMINWEIGHT addition to filters, but no luck getting
 that added.
 I would think the code to add it would be extremely similiar to add since
 the SKIPIFWEIGHT for a max weight already exists. Sounds like you just
flip
 that  to a ...

Scott, I do not see any difference in SKIPIFMINWEIGHT and SKIPIFWEIGHT.
Please explain.

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] testfailed in filters

2006-12-09 Thread John T \(Lists\)
 the manual says that MINWEIGHTTOFAIL is the total weight attributed by the
 filter
 I need the weight ON STARTING the filter

OOPS, your right. Forgot that. 

 What I want, is a test of messages that did NOT fail TestA, but do have a
 TOTAL weight  10

To do what, run the filter or cause a failure? If it is to cause a test
failure, that is then like saying if you are bad then you are really bad
it kind of goes against the premise of what the foundation of the weighting
system is.

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] testfailed in filters

2006-12-09 Thread John T \(Lists\)
 SKIPIFWEIGHT 100 would skip for weight over 100
 SKIPIFMINWEIGHT 0 would skip for weight under 0.

So actually, to be self explainitory, you would want:

SKIPIFNOTWEIGHT 0

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] testfailed in filters

2006-12-09 Thread John T \(Lists\)
 Not really, my goal is doing some analysis on TESTA (see why high weight
 messages did not fail testA) , using an action on Filter2 (copy or route),
 not to add weight

AH, now see, if you had answered my question that I posted 9 hours ago...

Now that we know the WHY...

Using Declude in that manner is IMHO a really poor way of using up CPU
resources. You would be a lot better off to view this as a job for log
analysis.

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[Declude.JunkMail] Filter format question

2006-12-04 Thread John T \(Lists\)
I am trying to come up with a filter that will check to see if a HELO only
contains a TLD and a domain but not a host or child domain.

Example of HELO:
Domain.com  trigger
1.domain.comnot triggered
1.ustrigger
1.1.us  trigger

Basically, I want to test if the HELO contains more than one dot or
period.

Either that or feature request for a Declude Junkmail test type of
helovalid2 where it checks to see if the HELO contains at least 2 dot or
periods. (I believe helovalid checks to see if there is a least one dot or
period.)

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Undocumented Directive 4.x

2006-12-04 Thread John T \(Lists\)
I used to know what sleep is. But a couple years ago Scott convinced me it
is a four letter word so I stopped getting so much, keeping it to a bare
minimum.

Hey wait a minute, isn't he getting more of that four letter word now?

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 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David
 Barker
 Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 7:53 PM
 To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Undocumented Directive 4.x
 
 That ones broken, no matter what you do you cannot get it to work.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt
 Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 9:04 PM
 To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
 Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Undocumented Directive 4.x
 
 NICKGOBACKTOSLEEPON
 
 :)
 
 
 
 Nick Hayer wrote:
 
  Any other undocumented's that you can share?  :)
 
  -Nick
 
  David Barker wrote:
  Just an FYI you may find it useful, in the global.cfg:
 
  BLKLSTON
 
  Writes a text file to the \spool\blklst.txt containing the IP and
  weight of emails eg.
 
  1.1.1.123
  2.2.2.27
 
  David Barker
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  Your Email security is our business
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Deborah campaign changed

2006-11-30 Thread John T \(Lists\)
FYI, from day one on Sunday, I was seeing subject lines with at least 6
different first names before wrote: so AFAIK there is no such thing as a
Debora spam campaign, I have called it the  wrote: campaign which Sniffer
has been catching since Sunday night.

 

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Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 8:41 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Deborah campaign changed

 

I noticed the Debora spam campaign has changed in the past couple of days.
Looks like it's no longer coming from addresses that start with debora.
However, subject is still ending with  wrote:.  Body filtering may be
desirable as well since most, if not all, of it is stock spam with
filterable text.

 

Has there been any progress at Declude regarding leading and trailing spaces
in filter text?  Last I had heard this was still something being added.


Darin.

 

 


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] How Accurate is Sniffer?

2006-11-30 Thread John T \(Lists\)
Make sure you forward all false positives to them for review.

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 Subject: re: [Declude.JunkMail] How Accurate is Sniffer?
 
 You might want to run it for a little while to see what results you get.
I've gotten a lot
 of false positives with Sniffer.
 
 Gary
 
 
 
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  I'm doing my 30 day trial of Message Sniffer .. at the moment it is 5
  points out of 10 needed to mark something as spam.
 
  How accurate is Sniffer?Something that I can raise my weight on?
 
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Filter 'END' statement in 4.3.14 flushes WEIGHT?

2006-11-17 Thread John T \(Lists\)
Nope, never was that way. You want to use MAXWEIGHT for that.

 

John T

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Craig
Edmonds
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 7:57 AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Filter 'END' statement in 4.3.14 flushes
WEIGHT?
Importance: High

 

me too.

 

I thought the purpose of the end function was so that if the email reaches a
certain weight, like 50, declude drops any further tests, thus saving
precious CPU.

 

Kindest Regards
Craig Edmonds
123 Marbella Internet
W: www.123marbella.com http://www.123marbella.com/ 
E : [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy
Schmidt
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 4:42 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Filter 'END' statement in 4.3.14 flushes
WEIGHT?
Importance: High

Wow - really? When was that changed? I know that the filter test itself
did not show as failed, but the WEIGHT always carried over!

 

Take a look at Scott's reply when this feature was implemented and the
weight-result of the END was being discussed:

http://www.mail-archive.com/declude.junkmail@declude.com/msg14009.html

 

[1] the E-mail will stop processing, 
[2] the test will *not* fail (this may change -- I'm not sure why it was set
up that way), and 
[3] the weight will be exactly what it should have been when END was
reached.

 

And it's only logical.

 

If you WANTED a filter to return 0, then you would simply place the 'END'
lines at the BEGINNING of the Filter!

 

If you place the 'END' line behind other lines that accumulated weight, then
it clearly is the intention that the weights be COUNTED and that only any
FURTHER weights not be added!

 

Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206 

 

 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David
Barker
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 10:06 AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Filter 'END' statement in 4.3.14 flushes
WEIGHT?

The END function means END the filter and do not add any of the points for
that filter. If the END condition is met it is as if the filter never ran.


David B

www.declude.com

 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy
Schmidt
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 10:00 AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Filter 'END' statement in 4.3.14 flushes WEIGHT?

Hi,

 

Can anyone confirm that the 'END' statement is functioning properly. I've
been noticing/suspecting that certain test combinations had much too little
weights and I finally have time to debug that.

 

This is the entry in the GLOBAL.CFG

 

CONTENT  filter  D:\IMail\Declude\CONTENTfilter.txt x 0 0

Means - the filter itself has a weight of 0 - all weights would be assigned
IN the filter

 

Here CONTENTfilter.txt:

 

SKIPIFWEIGHT 20
MAXWEIGHT 9

 

TESTSFAILED 7 CONTAINS SNIFFER
TESTSFAILED 1 CONTAINS SNIFFER-SCAMS
TESTSFAILED 1 CONTAINS SNIFFER-PORN
TESTSFAILED 2 CONTAINS SNIFFER-MALWARE
TESTSFAILED 1 CONTAINS SNIFFER-OBFUSC
TESTSFAILED -2 CONTAINS SNIFFER-IP

 

TESTSFAILED 4 CONTAINS INV-URIBL-WT1
TESTSFAILED 5 CONTAINS INV-URIBL-WT2
TESTSFAILED 6 CONTAINS INV-URIBL-WT3
TESTSFAILED 7 CONTAINS INV-URIBL-WT4

 

TESTSFAILED END CONTAINS SPAMCOP
TESTSFAILED END CONTAINS NJABLSOURCES
TESTSFAILED END CONTAINS AHBLSOURCES
TESTSFAILED END CONTAINS AHBLPSSL
TESTSFAILED END CONTAINS SORBS-SPAM
TESTSFAILED END CONTAINS SENDERDB-BLOCK
TESTSFAILED END CONTAINS SBL

 

TESTSFAILED 2 CONTAINS SNIFFER-IP

As far as I can tell, the Filter works fine as long as there is only SNIFFER
and/or URIBL and will return the proper weights around 7 through 9.  

 

However, if it hits the END statement is appears as if it always returns
ZERO.  In other words, it loses the weight that had been accumulated up to
that point.

 

Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206 

 


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Filter 'END' statement in 4.3.14 flushes WEIGHT?

2006-11-17 Thread John T \(Lists\)
END still works the way Scott intended it to work, ENDs the filter at that
point with no fail.

No need to add STOP.

John T
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 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David
 Barker
 Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 7:53 AM
 To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Filter 'END' statement in 4.3.14 flushes
WEIGHT?
 
 Andy,
 
 The post says it's actually set up right now so that:
 
 [1] the E-mail will stop processing,
 [2] the test will *not* fail (this may change -- I'm not sure why it was
set
 up that way), and
 [3] the weight will be exactly what it should have been when END was
 reached.
 
 Which means that Scott may have changed it, checking the release notes for
 1.77
 
 JM   ADD filter test type now can have END in place of the weight
 (any match will 'turn off' test)
 
 We certainly have not changed the code.
 
 I have added the STOP suggestion to our wishlist
 
 David
 
 
 
 
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy
 Schmidt
 Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 10:42 AM
 To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Filter 'END' statement in 4.3.14 flushes
 WEIGHT?
 Importance: High
 
 
 Wow - really? When was that changed? I know that the filter test itself
 did not show as failed, but the WEIGHT always carried over!
 
 Take a look at Scott's reply when this feature was implemented and the
 weight-result of the END was being discussed:
 http://www.mail-archive.com/declude.junkmail@declude.com/msg14009.html
 
 [1] the E-mail will stop processing,
 [2] the test will *not* fail (this may change -- I'm not sure why it was
set
 up that way), and
 [3] the weight will be exactly what it should have been when END was
 reached.
 
 And it's only logical.
 
 If you WANTED a filter to return 0, then you would simply place the 'END'
 lines at the BEGINNING of the Filter!
 
 If you place the 'END' line behind other lines that accumulated weight,
then
 it clearly is the intention that the weights be COUNTED and that only any
 FURTHER weights not be added!
 
 
 Best Regards
 Andy Schmidt
 
 Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
 Fax:+1 201 934-9206
 
 
 
 
 
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David
 Barker
 Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 10:06 AM
 To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Filter 'END' statement in 4.3.14 flushes
 WEIGHT?
 
 
 The END function means END the filter and do not add any of the points for
 that filter. If the END condition is met it is as if the filter never ran.
 
 David B
 www.declude.com
 
 
 
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy
 Schmidt
 Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 10:00 AM
 To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Filter 'END' statement in 4.3.14 flushes
WEIGHT?
 
 
 Hi,
 
 Can anyone confirm that the 'END' statement is functioning properly. I've
 been noticing/suspecting that certain test combinations had much too
little
 weights and I finally have time to debug that.
 
 This is the entry in the GLOBAL.CFG
 
 
   CONTENT  filter  D:\IMail\Declude\CONTENTfilter.txt x 0 0
 
 
 Means - the filter itself has a weight of 0 - all weights would be
assigned
 IN the filter
 
 Here CONTENTfilter.txt:
 
 
   SKIPIFWEIGHT 20
   MAXWEIGHT 9
 
   TESTSFAILED 7 CONTAINS SNIFFER
   TESTSFAILED 1 CONTAINS SNIFFER-SCAMS
   TESTSFAILED 1 CONTAINS SNIFFER-PORN
   TESTSFAILED 2 CONTAINS SNIFFER-MALWARE
   TESTSFAILED 1 CONTAINS SNIFFER-OBFUSC
   TESTSFAILED -2 CONTAINS SNIFFER-IP
 
   TESTSFAILED 4 CONTAINS INV-URIBL-WT1
   TESTSFAILED 5 CONTAINS INV-URIBL-WT2
   TESTSFAILED 6 CONTAINS INV-URIBL-WT3
   TESTSFAILED 7 CONTAINS INV-URIBL-WT4
 
   TESTSFAILED END CONTAINS SPAMCOP
   TESTSFAILED END CONTAINS NJABLSOURCES
   TESTSFAILED END CONTAINS AHBLSOURCES
   TESTSFAILED END CONTAINS AHBLPSSL
   TESTSFAILED END CONTAINS SORBS-SPAM
   TESTSFAILED END CONTAINS SENDERDB-BLOCK
   TESTSFAILED END CONTAINS SBL
 
   TESTSFAILED 2 CONTAINS SNIFFER-IP
 
 As far as I can tell, the Filter works fine as long as there is only
SNIFFER
 and/or URIBL and will return the proper weights around 7 through 9.
 
 However, if it hits the END statement is appears as if it always returns
 ZERO.  In other words, it loses the weight that had been accumulated up to
 that point.
 
 Best Regards
 Andy Schmidt
 
 Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
 Fax:+1 201 934-9206
 
 
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Filter 'END' statement in 4.3.14 flushes WEIGHT?

2006-11-17 Thread John T \(Lists\)
Was never changed. Look at the directives. END means end the filter. What
you should have been using is MAXWEIGHT at the top, or STOPATFIRSTHIT.

 

John T

eServices For You

 

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Ralph Waldo Emerson (1802-1882)

 

 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy
Schmidt
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 7:42 AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Filter 'END' statement in 4.3.14 flushes
WEIGHT?
Importance: High

 

Wow - really? When was that changed? I know that the filter test itself
did not show as failed, but the WEIGHT always carried over!

 

Take a look at Scott's reply when this feature was implemented and the
weight-result of the END was being discussed:

http://www.mail-archive.com/declude.junkmail@declude.com/msg14009.html

 

[1] the E-mail will stop processing, 
[2] the test will *not* fail (this may change -- I'm not sure why it was set
up that way), and 
[3] the weight will be exactly what it should have been when END was
reached.

 

And it's only logical.

 

If you WANTED a filter to return 0, then you would simply place the 'END'
lines at the BEGINNING of the Filter!

 

If you place the 'END' line behind other lines that accumulated weight, then
it clearly is the intention that the weights be COUNTED and that only any
FURTHER weights not be added!

 

Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206 

 

 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David
Barker
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 10:06 AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Filter 'END' statement in 4.3.14 flushes
WEIGHT?

The END function means END the filter and do not add any of the points for
that filter. If the END condition is met it is as if the filter never ran.


David B

www.declude.com

 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy
Schmidt
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 10:00 AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Filter 'END' statement in 4.3.14 flushes WEIGHT?

Hi,

 

Can anyone confirm that the 'END' statement is functioning properly. I've
been noticing/suspecting that certain test combinations had much too little
weights and I finally have time to debug that.

 

This is the entry in the GLOBAL.CFG

 

CONTENT  filter  D:\IMail\Declude\CONTENTfilter.txt x 0 0

Means - the filter itself has a weight of 0 - all weights would be assigned
IN the filter

 

Here CONTENTfilter.txt:

 

SKIPIFWEIGHT 20
MAXWEIGHT 9

 

TESTSFAILED 7 CONTAINS SNIFFER
TESTSFAILED 1 CONTAINS SNIFFER-SCAMS
TESTSFAILED 1 CONTAINS SNIFFER-PORN
TESTSFAILED 2 CONTAINS SNIFFER-MALWARE
TESTSFAILED 1 CONTAINS SNIFFER-OBFUSC
TESTSFAILED -2 CONTAINS SNIFFER-IP

 

TESTSFAILED 4 CONTAINS INV-URIBL-WT1
TESTSFAILED 5 CONTAINS INV-URIBL-WT2
TESTSFAILED 6 CONTAINS INV-URIBL-WT3
TESTSFAILED 7 CONTAINS INV-URIBL-WT4

 

TESTSFAILED END CONTAINS SPAMCOP
TESTSFAILED END CONTAINS NJABLSOURCES
TESTSFAILED END CONTAINS AHBLSOURCES
TESTSFAILED END CONTAINS AHBLPSSL
TESTSFAILED END CONTAINS SORBS-SPAM
TESTSFAILED END CONTAINS SENDERDB-BLOCK
TESTSFAILED END CONTAINS SBL

 

TESTSFAILED 2 CONTAINS SNIFFER-IP

As far as I can tell, the Filter works fine as long as there is only SNIFFER
and/or URIBL and will return the proper weights around 7 through 9.  

 

However, if it hits the END statement is appears as if it always returns
ZERO.  In other words, it loses the weight that had been accumulated up to
that point.

 

Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206 

 


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Filter 'END' statement in 4.3.14 flushes WEIGHT?

2006-11-17 Thread John T \(Lists\)
That link only shows that Scott was thinking of changing it from 0 weight to
a fail which would have added the weight. That explains his point 3 in that
what ever the weight of the message was before the test will remain.
Remember, to add weight, the test must FAIL. He stated it did not FAIL and
therefore weight was never added. 

 

John T

eServices For You

 

Life is a succession of lessons which must be lived to be understood.

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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy
Schmidt
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 9:29 AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Filter 'END' statement in 4.3.14 flushes
WEIGHT?

 

Hi John,

 

 Was never changed. 

 

Please read the URL I posted:

http://www.mail-archive.com/declude.junkmail@declude.com/msg14009.html

 

As you can tell, ORIGINALLY it did return the weight. He was thinking of it
even FAILING the test (if there was a weight).

 

 What you should have been using is MAXWEIGHT at the top, or
STOPATFIRSTHIT. 

 

Kindly, please read the sample I had posted (bottom of this message). Your
reply doesn't address the issue of trying to make some sections of a test
conditional. Example, the goal is to return either 1 or 2 or 3 if test1 or
test2 occur with test3 - and to only add test4 and test5, if test3 is not
true.

 

SKIPIFWEIGHT 20

MAXWEIGHT 3

 

TESTSFAILED 1 CONTAINS test1
TESTSFAILED 1 CONTAINS test2

 

TESTSFAILED END CONTAINS test3

 

TESTSFAILED 1 CONTAINS test4

TESTSFAILED 1 CONTAINS test5

etc etc

 

Please demonstrate how MAXWEIGHT or STOPATFIRSTHIT would do this in a single
filter?

Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206 

 

 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John T
(Lists)
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 11:34 AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Filter 'END' statement in 4.3.14 flushes
WEIGHT?

Was never changed. Look at the directives. END means end the filter. What
you should have been using is MAXWEIGHT at the top, or STOPATFIRSTHIT.

 

John T

eServices For You

 

Life is a succession of lessons which must be lived to be understood.

Ralph Waldo Emerson (1802-1882)

 

 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy
Schmidt
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 7:42 AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Filter 'END' statement in 4.3.14 flushes
WEIGHT?
Importance: High

 

Wow - really? When was that changed? I know that the filter test itself
did not show as failed, but the WEIGHT always carried over!

 

Take a look at Scott's reply when this feature was implemented and the
weight-result of the END was being discussed:

http://www.mail-archive.com/declude.junkmail@declude.com/msg14009.html

 

[1] the E-mail will stop processing, 
[2] the test will *not* fail (this may change -- I'm not sure why it was set
up that way), and 
[3] the weight will be exactly what it should have been when END was
reached.

 

And it's only logical.

 

If you WANTED a filter to return 0, then you would simply place the 'END'
lines at the BEGINNING of the Filter!

 

If you place the 'END' line behind other lines that accumulated weight, then
it clearly is the intention that the weights be COUNTED and that only any
FURTHER weights not be added!

 

Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206 

 

 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David
Barker
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 10:06 AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Filter 'END' statement in 4.3.14 flushes
WEIGHT?

The END function means END the filter and do not add any of the points for
that filter. If the END condition is met it is as if the filter never ran.


David B

www.declude.com

 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy
Schmidt
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 10:00 AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Filter 'END' statement in 4.3.14 flushes WEIGHT?

Hi,

 

Can anyone confirm that the 'END' statement is functioning properly. I've
been noticing/suspecting that certain test combinations had much too little
weights and I finally have time to debug that.

 

This is the entry in the GLOBAL.CFG

 

CONTENT  filter  D:\IMail\Declude\CONTENTfilter.txt x 0 0

Means - the filter itself has a weight of 0 - all weights would be assigned
IN the filter

 

Here CONTENTfilter.txt:

 

SKIPIFWEIGHT 20
MAXWEIGHT 9

 

TESTSFAILED 7 CONTAINS SNIFFER
TESTSFAILED 1 CONTAINS SNIFFER-SCAMS
TESTSFAILED 1 CONTAINS SNIFFER-PORN
TESTSFAILED 2 CONTAINS SNIFFER-MALWARE
TESTSFAILED 1 CONTAINS SNIFFER-OBFUSC
TESTSFAILED -2 CONTAINS SNIFFER-IP

 

TESTSFAILED 4 CONTAINS INV-URIBL-WT1
TESTSFAILED 5 CONTAINS INV-URIBL-WT2
TESTSFAILED

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Filter 'END' statement in 4.3.14 flushes WEIGHT?

2006-11-17 Thread John T \(Lists\)
Any filter that I do not have as active is moved to \declude\filters\notused
from \declude\filtes so that my filters folder only contains filters that I
am currently using.

 

In your example, you are putting the IF statement after the THEN statement.
I am not a programmer, but IF (the test of what you want to be quantified)
always comes before THEN (the result you want to occur depending upon
whether the test of the quantification failed or passed, meaning did it meat
the criteria which is the defined IF statement), so the first part of your
example does not make any sense. You only want weight added if test3 failed,
so you have to quantify that FIRST and then say what occurs by adding
weight. 

 

So, you have to have to filters since both sections rely upon testing IF
test3 has failed or not.

 

What is the logic of the second part anyways, to add weight for test4 and
test5 IF test1 and test2 failed?

 

 

John T

eServices For You

 

Life is a succession of lessons which must be lived to be understood.

Ralph Waldo Emerson (1802-1882)

 

 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy
Schmidt
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 10:48 AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Filter 'END' statement in 4.3.14 flushes
WEIGHT?

 

 Why the requirement of single filter? 

 

Clarity? It's easier for me to follow a logic, if it's enclosed in a SINGLE
source document (= filter).

 

If the logical is spread over multiple source documents, I have to first
scour the Global.CFG to see which filters are active, then inspect each one
to see if by chance any one of them might have any effect.

 

Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206 

 

 

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(Lists)
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 12:57 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Filter 'END' statement in 4.3.14 flushes
WEIGHT?

Why the requirement of single filter?

 

I have different combo filters created like this:

 

ComboFilterA

REM If testa and testb fail, and if testc or testd fail, add 10

ENDONFIRSTHIT

TESTSFAILED END NOTCONTAINS testa

TESTSFAILED END NOTCONTAINS testb

TESTSFAILED 10 CONTAINS testc

TESTSFAILED 10 CONTAINS testd

 

ComboFilterB

REM If testc and testd fail, and if teste or testf fail, add 20

ENDONFIRSTHIT

TESTSFAILED END NOTCONTAINS testc

TESTSFAILED END NOTCONTAINS testd

TESTSFAILED 10 CONTAINS teste

TESTSFAILED 10 CONTAINS testf

 

IMHO, that is a much cleaner and neater way to do it. You could also use
MAXWEIGHT instead of ENDONFIRSTHIT and then assign different weights to
different test.

 

John T

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Ralph Waldo Emerson (1802-1882)

 

 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy
Schmidt
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 9:29 AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Filter 'END' statement in 4.3.14 flushes
WEIGHT?

 

Hi John,

 

 Was never changed. 

 

Please read the URL I posted:

http://www.mail-archive.com/declude.junkmail@declude.com/msg14009.html

 

As you can tell, ORIGINALLY it did return the weight. He was thinking of it
even FAILING the test (if there was a weight).

 

 What you should have been using is MAXWEIGHT at the top, or
STOPATFIRSTHIT. 

 

Kindly, please read the sample I had posted (bottom of this message). Your
reply doesn't address the issue of trying to make some sections of a test
conditional. Example, the goal is to return either 1 or 2 or 3 if test1 or
test2 occur with test3 - and to only add test4 and test5, if test3 is not
true.

 

SKIPIFWEIGHT 20

MAXWEIGHT 3

 

TESTSFAILED 1 CONTAINS test1
TESTSFAILED 1 CONTAINS test2

 

TESTSFAILED END CONTAINS test3

 

TESTSFAILED 1 CONTAINS test4

TESTSFAILED 1 CONTAINS test5

etc etc

 

Please demonstrate how MAXWEIGHT or STOPATFIRSTHIT would do this in a single
filter?

Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206 

 


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Filter 'END' statement in 4.3.14 flushes WEIGHT?

2006-11-17 Thread John T \(Lists\)
OK, I understand that better but you will always be better off grouping each
intent into a different combo filter. Then, you can even have a combo filter
dependent upon another combo filter by why of order of list and including
the name of the combo filter as an IF statement in the next one.

 

Combo filters need to be viewed as a different type of test rather than a
normal filter test. If you write down in groups want you want to do, it will
be easy to then create them.

 

Say if you want to add 12 if 4 or more rbl tests failed. You would create a
combo filter like this:

MINWEIGHTTOFAIL12

MAXWEIGHT12

TESTSFAILED 3CONTAINS rbl1

TESTSFAILED 3CONTAINS rbl2

TESTSFAILED 3CONTAINS rbl3

TESTSFAILED 3CONTAINS rbl4

TESTSFAILED 3CONTAINS rbl5

TESTSFAILED 3CONTAINS rbl6

TESTSFAILED 3CONTAINS rbl7

TESTSFAILED 3CONTAINS rbl8

 

That way, at least 4 have to hit to equal 12 before it will see this test as
failing, but it will only add 12 and not more.

 

John T

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Ralph Waldo Emerson (1802-1882)

 

 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy
Schmidt
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 2:13 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Filter 'END' statement in 4.3.14 flushes
WEIGHT?

 

Hi John:

 

 What is the logic of the second part anyways, to add weight for test4 and
test5 IF test1 and test2 failed? 

 

If you have several blacklists of the same family (e.g., multiple open-relay
filters, or multiple open-proxy filters) I like to group them together.  I
give a big weight to the entire group (the filter itself) and then may add
an increment for blacklists with few false positives (each contains
clause).

 

Simiarly with Sniffer or invURIBL.  There is some overlap between those two,
and there is a potential overlap between Sniffer-IP and blacklists of
recent spam sources (e.g., SpamCop, MXRate-Block).

 

I have a filter that processes my various Sniffer types and invURIBL
returns. At some point, I'd like to stop and first look if certain other
Blacklist Tests had fired. If so, I'm done.  If not, I want to add a little
extra for Sniffer-IP.

 

 

Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206 

 

 

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Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 02:41 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Filter 'END' statement in 4.3.14 flushes
WEIGHT?

Any filter that I do not have as active is moved to \declude\filters\notused
from \declude\filtes so that my filters folder only contains filters that I
am currently using.

 

In your example, you are putting the IF statement after the THEN statement.
I am not a programmer, but IF (the test of what you want to be quantified)
always comes before THEN (the result you want to occur depending upon
whether the test of the quantification failed or passed, meaning did it meat
the criteria which is the defined IF statement), so the first part of your
example does not make any sense. You only want weight added if test3 failed,
so you have to quantify that FIRST and then say what occurs by adding
weight. 

 

So, you have to have to filters since both sections rely upon testing IF
test3 has failed or not.

 

What is the logic of the second part anyways, to add weight for test4 and
test5 IF test1 and test2 failed?

 

 

John T

eServices For You

 

Life is a succession of lessons which must be lived to be understood.

Ralph Waldo Emerson (1802-1882)

 

 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy
Schmidt
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 10:48 AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Filter 'END' statement in 4.3.14 flushes
WEIGHT?

 

 Why the requirement of single filter? 

 

Clarity? It's easier for me to follow a logic, if it's enclosed in a SINGLE
source document (= filter).

 

If the logical is spread over multiple source documents, I have to first
scour the Global.CFG to see which filters are active, then inspect each one
to see if by chance any one of them might have any effect.

 

Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206 

 

 

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Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 12:57 PM
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Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Filter 'END' statement in 4.3.14 flushes
WEIGHT?

Why the requirement of single filter?

 

I have different combo filters created like this:

 

ComboFilterA

REM If testa and testb fail, and if testc or testd fail, add 10

ENDONFIRSTHIT

TESTSFAILED END NOTCONTAINS testa

TESTSFAILED END NOTCONTAINS

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] AUTOREVIEW OFF

2006-11-10 Thread John T \(Lists\)
I believe it goes in the declude.cfg and any changes to the file require a
restart of the Decludeproc service.

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 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Heimir
 Eidskrem
 Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 4:33 PM
 To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] AUTOREVIEW OFF
 
 I have this in the declude.cfg file but I am still getting files in the
 review directory.
 I find this feature really annoying.
 
 Is this the correct command:
 AUTOREVIEWOFF
 
 Is this suppose to be in the declude.cfg file or global.cfg?
 
 It seems like a larger amount of those files are legit email.
 
 Thanks...
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Paid Subscription Black Lists

2006-11-09 Thread John T \(Lists\)
Message Sniffer and invURIBL are very worthwhile/

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Anton
 Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 9:18 AM
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 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Paid Subscription Black Lists
 
 Hi. Any one have any good luck with any paid subscriptions?  We have been
hit hard
 lately, and are willing to dish out some dough to get our stats back up.
Please advise.
 Thanks! -Chris
 
 
 
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Re: blocking GIF attachments again ...

2006-11-08 Thread John T \(Lists\)








Yes, if you block GIF attachments in
Declude Virus, if a HTML email as embedded GIFs, that email will be blocked.







John T

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of lessons which must be lived to be understood.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of David Dodell
Sent: Wednesday,
 November 08, 2006 7:47 AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Re:
blocking GIF attachments again ...



-Original Message-
From: Kevin Bilbee [EMAIL PROTECTED]

If you are not an ISP get the commtouch ZEROHOUR addin. It will block most
of the GIF attachments. The only downside I have noticed is it will also
trap the chain emails that users love to send to each other.

-

Kevin, I can block GIF attachments with Declude Virus too. I just
didn't know if there was a downside to doing this? ie does HTML mail
embeed GIF's, or are they attachments too?

David

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Help with Configuration

2006-11-07 Thread John T \(Lists\)
What I do is send those grey ones to HOLD and then use fpReview to directly
view them and take appropriate action. Much faster and easier than using a
mailbox.

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 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Todd
 Richards
 Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 11:19 AM
 To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Help with Configuration
 
 Hey Everyone -
 
 We are just getting things tuned to the point where we are truly happy
with
 the results we are seeing.  What I am trying to do now is help myself
 monitor the close calls.  I was sending everything between caught and
 delete to a spam mailbox so that I could check for any false positives.
 However, with my new success, that is getting out of hand.  So what I
would
 like to do is set up a new account to help with the overflow and allow me
to
 really monitor the close ones.
 
 Here is my weights in my global.cfg file:
 
 WEIGHT10  WARN
 WEIGHT15  WARN
 WEIGHT19  HOLD
 WEIGHT32  HOLD
 WEIGHT60  DELETE
 
 Here is the corresponding actions that I have in my $default$.junkmail
file:
 
 WEIGHT10  WARN
 WEIGHT15  SUBJECT **SPAM**
 WEIGHT19  ROUTETO [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 WEIGHT19a  SUBJECT [%WEIGHT%]
 WEIGHT32  ROUTETO [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 WEIGHT32a  SUBJECT [%WEIGHT%]
 WEIGHT60  DELETE
 
 My plan with the above is to send everything with a weight of 19-31 to
 [EMAIL PROTECTED], and everything from 32-59 to [EMAIL PROTECTED]  What I
 am
 hoping to accomplish by this is to keep a closer eye on those email that
 might accidentally be caught.  Right now, 95% of the messages are ending
up
 in the [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailbox even if they are above the WEIGHT32 (which
 should then go to spam2).  However, it does appear that everything over
60
 is being deleted.  I've checked all of the config files to make sure I
have
 things set up right, and it does appear that way.  Am I missing something,
 or is there something diferent that I should be doing?
 
 Thanks!
 
 Todd
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Re: WEIGHT for a File Attachment

2006-11-06 Thread John T \(Lists\)
Yes, that is what the other Dave was refereeing to.

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 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David
 Dodell
 Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2006 7:25 PM
 To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Re: WEIGHT for a File Attachment
 
 
 On Nov 5, 2006, at 3:42 PM, Dave Doherty wrote:
 
  One way, where X is the weight you wish to assign:
 
  BODYXCONTAINSContent-Type: image/gif;
 
  Be careful with this because a lot of legit emails contain GIFs.
 
 Thank you Dave ... I run with very few users so not concerned about
 them, and they have all been informed.
 
 Are GIF embed in HTML email, or someplace I need to be concerned?
 
 Thank you.
 
 David
 
 
 
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Can someone help?

2006-11-02 Thread John T \(Lists\)
Accessing the services page requires authentication to the OS since specific
credentials are required to start/stop services.

If you have tweaked the IIS security for the IAdmin page, this may be what
is happening.

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 Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 9:34 PM
 To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Can someone help?
 
 Hey guys, I know this isn't an Imail list, but i really need some help.
I'm running Imail
 2006.1 on  Windows 2003 server SP1. I can log into my WebAdmin interface
with no
 problem, but if i try to manage my Imail services, i get a page can't be
displayed. I
 can click on anything else in the WebAdmin screen and it takes my to it
with no
 problems, i just can't get to my services. I think it has something to do
with IIS, but
 i'm lost and tired. Could someone please help me with this?
 
 
 
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Can someone help?

2006-11-02 Thread John T \(Lists\)
 To turn on auditing (which I never understand, why it's not turned on by
 default in Windows) - MS gives you quite a run-around:

First, in the NT 4.0 days, auditing could easily use up resources and create
a huge security log file depending upon the configuration of the security
log file.

Second, auditing can produce a lot of data, even if configured very
narrowly, that one then has to wade through.

 - Windows Explorer - go to the root directories of each disk, properties,
 security, Advanced, Auditing, add the Everyone user and mark the
failed
 checkmarks for the complete list of accesses (I personally also audit
 successful change permissions and take ownership). Apply this and let it
 propagate to all subfolders.
 
 - Local Security Policy - to to Local Policies, Audit Policies and
turn
 on all failures. (I personally also audit successful account management
and
 audit policy changes).

Actually, what I do for my servers and for client, is in the Default domain
policy (local security policy if no domain,) enable those auditing policies
that are appropriate (not all are needed for normal business) AND enable
both success and failure on object access. NOTE that auditing of object
access is the ONLY auditing that requires 2 steps. All other auditing takes
affect without further intervention.

Then, only when needed, (or if by company policy they want to track changes
to files in a particular folder such as say payroll data sheets) I go to the
folders properties that I want to audit and enable auditing again for what
is needed only. Once I am done auditing, I disable on that directory.

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] bad header mods by Declude

2006-10-26 Thread John T \(Lists\)
Hello Herb and welcome to the Declude JunkMail list.

This is a known issue with spam that has improper coding in the header and
has been discussed at length. Here are some links to the existing
discussions:

http://www.mail-archive.com/declude.junkmail@declude.com/msg30444.html
http://www.mail-archive.com/declude.junkmail@declude.com/msg30003.html
http://www.mail-archive.com/declude.junkmail@declude.com/msg29909.html

In a nut shell, Declude (and fpReview) are expecting certain code (that must
be there accourding to RFC) to tell where the headers start and end and so
forth but some of that code is missing.

Declude is well aware of the problem and David Barker has stated that he is
raising the priority of getting this fixed.

John T
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 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Herb
 Guenther
 Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 8:02 AM
 To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] bad header mods by Declude
 
 Hi All;
 
 We have been having a problem with Declude not modifying the true
 subject and header on many spam messages.  Sniffer and a number of the
 other tests catch the message, but Declude is adding a header stub to
 the bottom of the message source, and not the real header.  Since we
 have our system set up to pre-pend Probable SPAM: to the subject line
 all of these messages go right thru the email clients filters.
 
 We are running the latest version of Declude, 4.3.14 with Smartermail.
 
 I have submitted several samples and let the folks know at Declude, but
 have not had any feedback.  When mentioning it on the message sniffer
 mail list others are also experiencing this as well.  Have other Declude
 customers seen this and what information does Declude need to work on
 this problem?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Herb
 
 
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] bad header mods by Declude

2006-10-25 Thread John T \(Lists\)
Gee, some one not reading posts to the list for the last week?

John T
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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Herb
 Guenther
 Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 8:02 AM
 To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] bad header mods by Declude
 
 Hi All;
 
 We have been having a problem with Declude not modifying the true
 subject and header on many spam messages.  Sniffer and a number of the
 other tests catch the message, but Declude is adding a header stub to
 the bottom of the message source, and not the real header.  Since we
 have our system set up to pre-pend Probable SPAM: to the subject line
 all of these messages go right thru the email clients filters.
 
 We are running the latest version of Declude, 4.3.14 with Smartermail.
 
 I have submitted several samples and let the folks know at Declude, but
 have not had any feedback.  When mentioning it on the message sniffer
 mail list others are also experiencing this as well.  Have other Declude
 customers seen this and what information does Declude need to work on
 this problem?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Herb
 
 
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 www.lanex.com
 (262)789-0966x102 Office
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RE: SPAM-WARN: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] RE: On RFC Violation - Declude allows attachments and Virus to pass through untouched and unscanned

2006-10-25 Thread John T \(Lists\)
 The Auto whitelist IMail 2006 is the issue I was referring to a few days
ago
 in regards to wanting users that SMTP AUTH to be whitelisted.  Were you
were
 saying that this was working with 2006 and Declude 4.x?

WHITELIST AUTH line in the Global.cfg is working as expected.

The Auto Whitelist that I have heard is not working is the one that
whitelists incoming based upon from address in the Imail contact address
book.

John T
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RE: SPAM-WARN: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] RE: On RFC Violation - Declude allows attachments and Virus to pass through untouched and unscanned

2006-10-25 Thread John T \(Lists\)
Darin, let me put it plainly.

If you put WHITELIST AUTH line in the Global.cfg file any user the sends
out through your server via smtp and who authenticates to the server will be
Whitelisted.

In other words, SMTP AUTH whitelisting is and has been working. I have
provided clear proof and others have posted like wise.

The issue of AUTOWHITELIST via the Imail users contact address book is for
incoming email from the internet to your users. That is what is not working.

Questions?

John T
eServices For You

Seek, and ye shall find!


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darin
Cox
 Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 8:20 AM
 To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
 Subject: Re: SPAM-WARN: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] RE: On RFC Violation -
Declude
 allows attachments and Virus to pass through untouched and unscanned
 
 Ahh, so I was correct.  SMTP AUTH is still an issue.   That in itself is a
 showstopper for us to move to IMail 2006 and Declude 4.x
 
 How soon until Declude will read this and auto whitelist, David?  IMail
2006
 was released a year ago.
 
 The following from your list are showstoppers for us to exercise our soon
to
 expire, and as yet unused, SA and upgrade to Declude 4.x
 
 *Line Terminator Problem
 *Auto whitelist Imail 2006
 *Reported Memory Leaks  Decludeproc crash on zero pointers
 *Zip vulnerability
 *Attach function bug (forward as attachment)
 *When there is a MIME header mismatch Declude assumes it is an executable
 *Yahoo CAL emails have header problems which cause improper blocking
 *Encoded attachments not correctly detected - long base64
 
 Darin.
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: David Barker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
 Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 11:10 AM
 Subject: RE: SPAM-WARN: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] RE: On RFC Violation -
 Declude allows attachments and Virus to pass through untouched and
unscanned
 
 
 IMail changed their addressbook from text files to a database in 2006
 currently Declude does not read the databse.
 
 David
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darin
 Cox
 Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 10:44 AM
 To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
 Subject: Re: SPAM-WARN: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] RE: On RFC Violation -
 Declude allows attachments and Virus to pass through untouched and
unscanned
 
 John T,
 
 The Auto whitelist IMail 2006 is the issue I was referring to a few days
ago
 in regards to wanting users that SMTP AUTH to be whitelisted.  Were you
were
 saying that this was working with 2006 and Declude 4.x?
 
 Darin.
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: David Barker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
 Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 10:35 AM
 Subject: RE: SPAM-WARN: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] RE: On RFC Violation -
 Declude allows attachments and Virus to pass through untouched and
unscanned
 
 
 Here is a preliminary list, not all have been verified and several are
 currently being worked on: (Note these does not include Declude adds for
new
 functionality) Email me if you are aware of a known issue that is not on
 this list.
 
 *Line Terminator Problem
 
 *Auto whitelist Imail 2006
 
 *Reported Memory Leaks  Decludeproc crash on zero pointers
 
 *Zerohour test doesn't operate as other tests
 
 *Zip vulnerability
 
 *Attach function bug (forward as attachment)
 
 *When there is a MIME header mismatch Declude assumes it is an executable
 
 *Incorrectly filtering Object Data Vulnerability for MSOffice generated
 emails
 
 *Attached web pages seen as .com files
 
 *Yahoo CAL emails have header problems which cause improper blocking
 
 *Encoded attachments not correctly detected - long base64
 
 *Prewhitelist is not skipping custom filters
 
 *Whitelisting messages in lower Log levels
 
 *SmarterMail order of Domains listed in xml for aliases
 
 David Barker
 Director of Product Development
 Your Email security is our business
 978.499.2933 office
 978.988.1311 fax
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darin
 Cox
 Sent: Monday, October 23, 2006 10:35 AM
 To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
 Subject: Re: SPAM-WARN: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] RE: On RFC Violation -
 Declude allows attachments and Virus to pass through untouched and
unscanned
 
 Thanks, David.  We appreciate your efforts.
 
 Darin.
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: David Barker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
 Sent: Monday, October 23, 2006 10:26 AM
 Subject: RE: SPAM-WARN: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] RE: On RFC Violation -
 Declude allows attachments and Virus to pass through untouched and
unscanned
 
 
 I will see what I can do to bring together a list of known issues. Just
give
 me some time (days) and I will get it posted.
 
 David B
 www.declude.com
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darin
 Cox
 

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] RE: Declude's To-Do List

2006-10-25 Thread John T \(Lists\)
Exactly. It needs to be either available at a reasonable price of all of us
to use or it should not show up in the headers of those that are prevented
from using it.

Goes back to my point when it first became available: Declude wetted our
appetite about ZEROHOUR and then when it became available told a big group
of us NO NO NO you can't have it! NYA NYA NYA!

John T
eServices For You

Seek, and ye shall find!


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David
 Barker
 Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 12:14 PM
 To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] RE: Declude's To-Do List
 
 I agree, ZEROHOUR needs to fuction like all the other tests.
 
 David
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt
 Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 2:59 PM
 To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
 Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] RE: Declude's To-Do List
 
 I agree, the openness is refreshing.  Also, it shouldn't be forgotten that
 most of these bugs existed back in the the Scott days, but for the most
part
 weren't known to be bugs.
 
 BTW, I too would like to see that X-Declude-RefID removed when it isn't
 used, and maybe Declude should consider approaching this header the exact
 same way as all of the others it inserts; fully customizable with
variables,
 and different for incoming and outgoing E-mail.  All that would need to be
 done is add a %DecludeRefID% to the list and leave it at that, no packing
of
 this header by default.
 
 Matt
 
 
 
 Andy Schmidt wrote:
  Hi,
 
  Thanks for posting! Openness is a great confidence builder! Seeing that
  problems are at least being recognized goes a long way to giving me some
  small flicker of hope that things at Declude might turn around yet.
 
  Now your corporate management has to prove themselves by demonstrating
 that
  they are finally serious about fulfilling the service contracts we
 purchased
  by not allowing crucial problems to remain open for yet another year.
They
  cannot keep holding out their hands each year, if the money is not spent
 on
  the intended purpose. Fixing the Auto-Whitelist with a simple MDAC SQL
 query
  against the Imail 2006 Workgroupshare database is no rocket science. It
  might take a day - but not a year.
 
  PS:
  This is a minor issue and probably doesn't deserve to be on your list -
 but
  I never got a reply on how to suppress the empty and unwanted
 
  X-Declude-RefID:
 
  header.
 
  Best Regards
  Andy Schmidt
 
  Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
  Fax:+1 201 934-9206
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
David
  Barker
  Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 10:36 AM
  To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
  Subject: RE: SPAM-WARN: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] RE: On RFC Violation -
  Declude allows attachments and Virus to pass through untouched and
 unscanned
 
  Here is a preliminary list, not all have been verified and several are
  currently being worked on: (Note these does not include Declude adds for
 new
  functionality) Email me if you are aware of a known issue that is not on
  this list.
 
  *Line Terminator Problem
 
  *Auto whitelist Imail 2006
 
  *Reported Memory Leaks  Decludeproc crash on zero pointers
 
  *Zerohour test doesn't operate as other tests
 
  *Zip vulnerability
 
  *Attach function bug (forward as attachment)
 
  *When there is a MIME header mismatch Declude assumes it is an
executable
 
  *Incorrectly filtering Object Data Vulnerability for MSOffice generated
  emails
 
  *Attached web pages seen as .com files
 
  *Yahoo CAL emails have header problems which cause improper blocking
 
  *Encoded attachments not correctly detected - long base64
 
  *Prewhitelist is not skipping custom filters
 
  *Whitelisting messages in lower Log levels
 
  *SmarterMail order of Domains listed in xml for aliases
 
  David Barker
  Director of Product Development
  Your Email security is our business
  978.499.2933 office
  978.988.1311 fax
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Darin
  Cox
  Sent: Monday, October 23, 2006 10:35 AM
  To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
  Subject: Re: SPAM-WARN: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] RE: On RFC Violation -
  Declude allows attachments and Virus to pass through untouched and
 unscanned
 
  Thanks, David.  We appreciate your efforts.
 
  Darin.
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: David Barker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
  Sent: Monday, October 23, 2006 10:26 AM
  Subject: RE: SPAM-WARN: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] RE: On RFC Violation -
  Declude allows attachments and Virus to pass through untouched and
 unscanned
 
 
  I will see what I can do to bring together a list of known issues. Just
 give
  me some time (days) and I will get it posted.
 
  David B
  www.declude.com
 
  -Original Message-
  From: 

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] RE: Declude's To-Do List

2006-10-25 Thread John T \(Lists\)
To be sure, my next post to the list is not at you. It is for your bosses.

John Tolmachoff
Owner, eServices For You
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
626-737-6003
Fax 626-737-6004



 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David
 Barker
 Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 12:14 PM
 To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] RE: Declude's To-Do List
 
 I agree, ZEROHOUR needs to fuction like all the other tests.
 
 David
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt
 Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 2:59 PM
 To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
 Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] RE: Declude's To-Do List
 
 I agree, the openness is refreshing.  Also, it shouldn't be forgotten that
 most of these bugs existed back in the the Scott days, but for the most
part
 weren't known to be bugs.
 
 BTW, I too would like to see that X-Declude-RefID removed when it isn't
 used, and maybe Declude should consider approaching this header the exact
 same way as all of the others it inserts; fully customizable with
variables,
 and different for incoming and outgoing E-mail.  All that would need to be
 done is add a %DecludeRefID% to the list and leave it at that, no packing
of
 this header by default.
 
 Matt
 
 
 
 Andy Schmidt wrote:
  Hi,
 
  Thanks for posting! Openness is a great confidence builder! Seeing that
  problems are at least being recognized goes a long way to giving me some
  small flicker of hope that things at Declude might turn around yet.
 
  Now your corporate management has to prove themselves by demonstrating
 that
  they are finally serious about fulfilling the service contracts we
 purchased
  by not allowing crucial problems to remain open for yet another year.
They
  cannot keep holding out their hands each year, if the money is not spent
 on
  the intended purpose. Fixing the Auto-Whitelist with a simple MDAC SQL
 query
  against the Imail 2006 Workgroupshare database is no rocket science. It
  might take a day - but not a year.
 
  PS:
  This is a minor issue and probably doesn't deserve to be on your list -
 but
  I never got a reply on how to suppress the empty and unwanted
 
  X-Declude-RefID:
 
  header.
 
  Best Regards
  Andy Schmidt
 
  Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
  Fax:+1 201 934-9206
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
David
  Barker
  Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 10:36 AM
  To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
  Subject: RE: SPAM-WARN: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] RE: On RFC Violation -
  Declude allows attachments and Virus to pass through untouched and
 unscanned
 
  Here is a preliminary list, not all have been verified and several are
  currently being worked on: (Note these does not include Declude adds for
 new
  functionality) Email me if you are aware of a known issue that is not on
  this list.
 
  *Line Terminator Problem
 
  *Auto whitelist Imail 2006
 
  *Reported Memory Leaks  Decludeproc crash on zero pointers
 
  *Zerohour test doesn't operate as other tests
 
  *Zip vulnerability
 
  *Attach function bug (forward as attachment)
 
  *When there is a MIME header mismatch Declude assumes it is an
executable
 
  *Incorrectly filtering Object Data Vulnerability for MSOffice generated
  emails
 
  *Attached web pages seen as .com files
 
  *Yahoo CAL emails have header problems which cause improper blocking
 
  *Encoded attachments not correctly detected - long base64
 
  *Prewhitelist is not skipping custom filters
 
  *Whitelisting messages in lower Log levels
 
  *SmarterMail order of Domains listed in xml for aliases
 
  David Barker
  Director of Product Development
  Your Email security is our business
  978.499.2933 office
  978.988.1311 fax
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Darin
  Cox
  Sent: Monday, October 23, 2006 10:35 AM
  To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
  Subject: Re: SPAM-WARN: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] RE: On RFC Violation -
  Declude allows attachments and Virus to pass through untouched and
 unscanned
 
  Thanks, David.  We appreciate your efforts.
 
  Darin.
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: David Barker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
  Sent: Monday, October 23, 2006 10:26 AM
  Subject: RE: SPAM-WARN: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] RE: On RFC Violation -
  Declude allows attachments and Virus to pass through untouched and
 unscanned
 
 
  I will see what I can do to bring together a list of known issues. Just
 give
  me some time (days) and I will get it posted.
 
  David B
  www.declude.com
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Darin
  Cox
  Sent: Monday, October 23, 2006 10:19 AM
  To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
  Subject: Re: SPAM-WARN: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] RE: On RFC Violation -
  Declude allows attachments and 

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] bad header mods by Declude

2006-10-25 Thread John T \(Lists\)
I forgot 1 + 1 = 2.

My bad.

John T
eServices For You

Seek, and ye shall find!


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Darrell
 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
 Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 9:48 PM
 To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
 Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] bad header mods by Declude
 
 John,
 
 FYI - Herb was not a member of this list last week.  He was a member on
the
 Sniffer list and asked a Declude question and someone recommended he join
 this list.
 
 Haven't you been reading the Sniffer list?
 
 Darrell
 
 Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for Declude And
 Imail.  IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, SURBL/URI integration,
MRTG
 Integration, and Log Parsers.
 
 - Original Message -
 From: John T (Lists) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
 Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 11:32 AM
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] bad header mods by Declude
 
 
 Gee, some one not reading posts to the list for the last week?
 
 John T
 eServices For You
 
 Seek, and ye shall find!
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Herb
  Guenther
  Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 8:02 AM
  To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
  Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] bad header mods by Declude
 
  Hi All;
 
  We have been having a problem with Declude not modifying the true
  subject and header on many spam messages.  Sniffer and a number of the
  other tests catch the message, but Declude is adding a header stub to
  the bottom of the message source, and not the real header.  Since we
  have our system set up to pre-pend Probable SPAM: to the subject line
  all of these messages go right thru the email clients filters.
 
  We are running the latest version of Declude, 4.3.14 with Smartermail.
 
  I have submitted several samples and let the folks know at Declude, but
  have not had any feedback.  When mentioning it on the message sniffer
  mail list others are also experiencing this as well.  Have other Declude
  customers seen this and what information does Declude need to work on
  this problem?
 
  Thanks,
 
  Herb
 
 
  --
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  Lanex, LLC
  www.lanex.com
  (262)789-0966x102 Office
  (262)780-0424 Direct
 
 
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: imail q files magically dissapearing

2006-10-24 Thread John T \(Lists\)









Only problem his, how do you know what
the recipient email address is without parsing either the Declude or SMTP logs?




Oh, BTW, no the to address in the
headers is not always the email address the message is destined to.





John T

eServices For You



Seek, and ye shall
find!







-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Craig
Edmonds
Sent: Tuesday,
 October 24, 2006 12:45 AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail]
OT: imail q files magically dissapearing
Importance: High



Hi Darrell,



In your fpreview programme (which is
pretty useful) how about making it when you return to queue, it
gives an option to recreate the q file?



I have made a small command line vbs
script which does it but its still time consuming to enter the data one by one
but cuts down the time have to create one manually. 



I wrote this last night very quickly
becasue I have about 250 legitimate mails which are broken and have to fix them
one by one. It very basic but does the job for me today.



--- start script 



Set ArgObj = WScript.Arguments 







filename=ArgObj(0)







Sender=ArgObj(1)







Recipient=ArgObj(2)







Spoolfolder=c:\imail\spool\
Qfilename=Q  filename  .smd
Dfilename=D  filename  .smd
Filename=Spoolfolder  Qfilename







'==
'write the q file first
'==
Set fso = CreateObject(Scripting.FileSystemObject)
set fname=fso.CreateTextFile(Filename,true)
Set fso=nothing
Set fname=nothing







'==
'now write the content of the q file
'==
Set fso = CreateObject(Scripting.FileSystemObject)
Set fname = fso.OpenTextFile(Filename, 8, True)


fname.write QC:\IMail\spool\
 Dfilename vbCRLF
fname.write Hmail.mail2.123marbella.com vbCRLF
fname.write S  Sender  
 vbCRLF
fname.write R  Recipient 
 vbCRLF







Set fso=nothing
Set fname=nothing







set ArgObj = Nothing



--end script









Kindest Regards
Craig Edmonds
123 Marbella Internet
W: www.123marbella.com















From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Sent: Tuesday,
 October 24, 2006 8:19 AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail]
OT: imail q files magically dissapearing



Craig,











fpReview loads the D* file. If you are having failures
in the SMTP transaction you will have broken files (i.e. the Q* file does not
exist OR is prefaced with t*).











I am not sure what Imail version your running but have seen
others report a signifigant increase in broken connection files in 2006.











Darrell






Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com
for utilities for Declude And Imail. IMail/Declude Overflow Queue
Monitoring, SURBL/URI integration, MRTG Integration, and Log Parsers.







- Original Message - 





From: Craig Edmonds






To: declude.junkmail@declude.com






Sent: Monday, October
 23, 2006 6:12 PM





Subject: [Declude.JunkMail]
OT: imail q files magically dissapearing











On one of my imail servers, my spool folder is slowly
filling up with D files.











I am using fpreview to view the files in the spool and there
are currently 180 or so emails.











when i try to return to queue I get an error
saying that the q file could not be found, whch isa bit strange becasue many
many of the emails are local to the server.











When I look in the /spool there is a not a single q file
anywhere.











Any ideas whats happening?











Has sniffer or declude gone nuts?









Kindest Regards
Craig Edmonds
123 Marbella Internet
W: www.123marbella.com

.








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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Different issue - Process flow question

2006-10-23 Thread John T \(Lists\)
 1. Is it not true that when properly installed and running, that Declude
 handles EVERY message that passes through the mail server?

Every message that (in the case of Imail) SMTPD32 service hands it.

 2. There is only one GLOBAL.CFG.

Correct.

 3. Every message processed should attempt to run every external test.
 (That's why many external tests accept the current weight as a parameter
 so it can bail out early if the current weight meets or exceeds the
external
 test's set bail out weight) But regardless of whether the external test
 decides to bail early, it should still get invoked. Isn't that correct?

Correct EXCEPT AND UNLESS you have in the Global.Cfg file PREWHITELIST and
set to ON. In that case, further tests are NOT run and processing is
completed at that point.

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] On RFC Violation - Declude allows attachments and Virus to pass through untouched and unscanned

2006-10-20 Thread John T \(Lists\)
 But Declude let RfcNoCr.eml pass straight through without calling the
virus
 scanners, because Declude did NOT see an attachment. Also, because Declude
 did not see an attachment, Declude did not ban the .EXE extension.

OK, question. What happened then when that message got to your email client?

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] picture spam

2006-10-12 Thread John T \(Lists\)








Chris, you need to learn what your
company is doing.



As a hosting service provider, I am specifically
prevented from using CommTouch unless I want to spend several thousand dollars
using the Declude gateway product.



$195 is quite acceptable if I was
allowed to pay it.



Sorry to burst your bubble but I am not
being allowed the option to implement or not





John T

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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of chris
Sent: Thursday,
 October 12, 2006 7:11 AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail]
picture spam



A one time cost of 195.00 is not a large
portion of your revenue and it is your option to not implement this or
not





Chris 





















From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Markus Gufler
Sent: Thursday, October
 12, 2006 9:57 AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail]
picture spam





...and give a large part of our revenue to
Commtouch?



Provide a feasible way to justify the additional
costs for our existing customers and service contracts!

THEN we could talk about Commtouch.



BTW: even if it's hard work to maintain a
reliable spam filter it's not an impossible thing. years of contribution from
our own researches, creation of text filters, publication of new spam and
filter signs, developement of - in declude long time and still missing -
additional external tests allowed and still allows us to have reliable filters
and no image spam in my inbox. The question is why Declude has become a
competitor of our work from what it was some years ago: an excellent tool for
us admins to do our own hard work.



Looking at your pricing I can see anywhere
limitations based on users. What if I have a single gatewayed domain?



Markus













From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of chris
Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006
3:15 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail]
picture spam

Guys, Commtouch hasnt missed any,
stop making things hard on yourselves..







Chris 





















From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Fisher
Sent: Wednesday,
 October 11, 2006 5:17 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail]
picture spam







Sorbs-DUL and NJABL Dynablock look to be the best. Although
they miss lots.











5-10's has been discontinued.











- Original Message - 







From: Dave
Marchette 





To: declude.junkmail@declude.com






Sent: Wednesday,
 October 11, 2006 3:53 PM





Subject: RE:
[Declude.JunkMail] picture spam









Thanks all for the various
suggestions. Agreed- combo is the way to use that test, for sure. A
bit OT, but what is the popular and accurate DUL database these days? How
accurate is fiveten at DUL lookups? 



















From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Scott Fisher
Sent: Wednesday,
 October 11, 2006 12:49 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail]
picture spam







I combo thegraphics hit (jpg, gif or png) with:











1. bad DNS - None or timeout











2. bad language (eastern European iso-8859-2) or
Cyrillic (koi8-r or iso-8859-5), etc











3. cmdspace











4. good DUL IP lists/tests











5. having forged your local domain.











I still get 5-10 a day. It is a pain.



















- Original Message - 





From: Dave
Marchette 





To: declude.junkmail@declude.com






Sent: Wednesday,
 October 11, 2006 12:08 PM





Subject: [Declude.JunkMail]
picture spam









Has anyone figured out a reasonable way to use Declude to
minimize picture spam? Sniffer is missing most. They are sent from
fresh hosts, so RBLs dont catch them, and there is no target, so
INVuribl misses them as well. Associates of ours are using
Barracuda to stop most successfully, so it is at least possible.
Ideas are welcomed. 



Dave 



 


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Licensing problem after upgrade

2006-10-12 Thread John T \(Lists\)









Global.cfg is still used the same way.



Declude.cfg is used for program type configurations
as well as license code (which are removed from the separate Global.cfg,
virus.cfg, hijack.cfg files.)





John T

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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Frederick
Samarelli
Sent: Thursday,
 October 12, 2006 8:26 AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail]
Licensing problem after upgrade







The declude.exe is old (2005). Is this ok.











What file is used and for what. Declude.cfg and Global.cfg









- Original Message - 





From: John
T (Lists) 





To: declude.junkmail@declude.com






Sent: Wednesday,
 October 11, 2006 1:23 AM





Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail]
Licensing problem after upgrade









The delivery app is still declude.exe.



Create a new text file in you
imail\declude director and call it declude.cfg.



Add a line CODE
-x-xx-xx- replacing the xxx-xx with your code.





John T

eServices For You



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find!







-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Frederick
Samarelli
Sent: Tuesday,
 October 10, 2006 9:22 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail]
Licensing problem after upgrade





do not have a declude.cfg. 









What should be in it and where should it go.











Do i just rename my global.cfg











What about this.











Also the IMAIL Delivery Application is still set to
Declude.exe is this correct.











Should it change to the Decludeprocess.exe















- Original Message - 





From: Jeff
Frantz 





To: declude.junkmail@declude.com






Sent: Tuesday, October
 10, 2006 11:52 PM





Subject: RE:
[Declude.JunkMail] Licensing problem after upgrade









Fred,



Your license code should go in the
declude.cfg file.



-Jeff











From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Frederick
Samarelli
Sent: Tuesday,
 October 10, 2006 10:59 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail]
Licensing problem after upgrade







I just upgraded from 3.x to the current version. Nothing
will run.











All I see in the diags.txt is FATAL ERROR: Product license
key not in configuration INVALID KEY











Where do I put the update Key?























Thanks.











Fred




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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Licensing problem after upgrade

2006-10-10 Thread John T \(Lists\)











The delivery app is still declude.exe.



Create a new text file in you imail\declude
director and call it declude.cfg.



Add a line CODE -x-xx-xx-
replacing the xxx-xx with your code.





John T

eServices For You



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find!







-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Frederick
Samarelli
Sent: Tuesday,
 October 10, 2006 9:22 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail]
Licensing problem after upgrade





do not have a declude.cfg. 









What should be in it and where should it go.











Do i just rename my global.cfg











What about this.











Also the IMAIL Delivery Application is still set to
Declude.exe is this correct.











Should it change to the Decludeprocess.exe















- Original Message - 





From: Jeff
Frantz 





To: declude.junkmail@declude.com






Sent: Tuesday, October
 10, 2006 11:52 PM





Subject: RE:
[Declude.JunkMail] Licensing problem after upgrade









Fred,



Your license code should go in the
declude.cfg file.



-Jeff











From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Frederick
Samarelli
Sent: Tuesday,
 October 10, 2006 10:59 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail]
Licensing problem after upgrade







I just upgraded from 3.x to the current version. Nothing
will run.











All I see in the diags.txt is FATAL ERROR: Product license
key not in configuration INVALID KEY











Where do I put the update Key?























Thanks.











Fred




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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] CBL:CBL

2006-09-26 Thread John T \(Lists\)
It can also be set in the SMTP service Advanced properties section through
the IAdmin.

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 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Colbeck,
 Andrew
 Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 1:06 PM
 To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] CBL:CBL
 
 The current hotfix for IMail Server 2006 includes a registry setting
 that allows you to set a fixed domain name in your outbound HELO/EHLO.
 
 Andrew.
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
  Behalf Of John Shacklett
  Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 12:30 PM
  To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
  Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] CBL:CBL
 
  Well, I looked in our archive but I forgot to look in the
  Imail list archive. This appears to be exactly what I'm not
  experiencing. They've been prompt to reply, so at least I'm
  not sitting dead in certain waters in the meantime.
 
  Thanks, Darrell.
 
  -Original Message-
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  Behalf Of Darrell
  ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Sent: Tuesday, 26 September 2006 12:48 PM
  To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
  Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] CBL:CBL
 
  If you run Imail that puts you at risk for being listed on the CBL :)
 
  See-
  http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum@list.ipswitch.com/msg1
  06753.html
 
  Darrell
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  and Log Parsers.
 
 
  John Shacklett writes:
 
   I've discovered that my mailserver has been listed on CBL.
  I asked to
   be delisted, and they complied, but I'm right back on
  *SNAP* just like
  that.
   Assuming for the moment that I'm not at risk for the vulnerability
   covered by MS06-040, and that nothing infected me before I
  loaded that
   patch, what else puts us at risk?
  
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[Declude.JunkMail] FIND command question

2006-09-23 Thread John T \(Lists\)
I the course of normal business, I often use the FIND command when
investigating false positives and reported missing email and such to search
the logs.

However, I just found out a big problem with this. Apparently, the FIND
command is case sensitive in that if you say FIND @somedomain.com it will
not find it if there is a capital in there. I recently found this out when
repeatedly trying to find an incoming email and telling the client it was
never received and then the send FINALLY provided their end of the logs and
guess what, the email address as they sent it was in all capitals.

Question, what is the best quick way to search the logs via command line for
a string and not have the search be case sensitive?

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