[Declude.JunkMail] FW: You **MAY** have spam

2004-06-30 Thread Sharyn Schmidt
sigh

This is legit, coming from my own mailserver, and it failed the SPF test.

Obviously something is not correct here.

Any suggestions?

I have used the wizard on the pobox site and pasted the text string into a
text record in my DNS.

I've had to disable the test for now as all my legit mail is being flagged
as spam.

Sharyn

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Subject: You **MAY** have spam


You **MAY** have spam!

Subject:New Directory  
From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Tests Failed:   11-CMDSPACE, SPFFAIL, WEIGHT10-Daf1a0221059a2e33.SMD

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Title: New Directory  







Attached is the new company for the Lake Alfred, Winter haven, and Auburndale facilities. 


Should any changes need to be made please let me know.


 ... 



Thank You



Kay E

Ext 161



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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] FW: You **MAY** have spam

2004-06-30 Thread R. Scott Perry

This is legit, coming from my own mailserver, and it failed the SPF test.
Obviously something is not correct here.
Any suggestions?
I have used the wizard on the pobox site and pasted the text string into a
text record in my DNS.
The problem is that your SPF record (v=spf1 a mx ptr -all) doesn't list 
IPs that your users may be connecting to your mailserver from.

In this case, you should whitelist your own users (WHITELIST AUTH if you 
are running IMail v8 and the latest Declude beta).

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Re: FW: [Declude.JunkMail] FW: You **MAY** have spam

2004-06-30 Thread Matt




I believe that both CMDSPACE and SPF are inappropriate tests to score
unless you can whitelist your own local users that connect directly to
your server to send E-mail. If you have IMail 7 and your users are on
IP space that you don't control, you are out of luck, but if you have
either IMail 8 and/or all of your users connect by way of a LAN, then
there are ways to do this, but you should first indicate which of the
above applies.

Matt



Sharyn Schmidt wrote:

  UPDATE:

ALL my legit todhunter mail is coming as spam

LOL what else can one do but laugh???

Sharyn

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Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2004 8:33 AM
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Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] FW: You **MAY** have spam


sigh

This is legit, coming from my own mailserver, and it failed the SPF test.

Obviously something is not correct here.

Any suggestions?

I have used the wizard on the pobox site and pasted the text string into a
text record in my DNS.

I've had to disable the test for now as all my legit mail is being flagged
as spam.

Sharyn

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Declude JunkMail
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2004 8:17 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: You **MAY** have spam


You **MAY** have spam!

Subject:	New Directory  
From:		[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Tests Failed:	11-CMDSPACE, SPFFAIL, WEIGHT10-Daf1a0221059a2e33.SMD

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Subject:

New Directory
  
  

From: 
"Kay Evanson" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  

Date: 
Wed, 30 Jun 2004 08:16:58 -0400
  
  

To: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  

  
  
  
  
  New Directory 

  
  Attached is the new company for the
Lake Alfred, Winter haven, and Auburndale facilities. 
  
  Should any changes need to be made
please let me know.
  
   ... 
  
  
  Thank You
  
  
  Kay E
  
  Ext 161
  


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] FW: You **MAY** have spam

2004-06-30 Thread Sharyn Schmidt

The problem is that your SPF record (v=spf1 a mx ptr -all) doesn't list 
IPs that your users may be connecting to your mailserver from.

The problem may also be that ID 10 T error and I never listed the IP of my
firewall, which uses an SMTP proxy. (Len is laughing if he is reading this)



In this case, you should whitelist your own users (WHITELIST AUTH if you 
are running IMail v8 and the latest Declude beta).

Im only running IMAIL 7.15.



I have made the change in the SPF record in DNS, listing my firewall's IP.
Is there a way to test this before I turn everything back on? I've already
had to send out an email to the entire company explaining that I futzed up,
don't want to have to do this again. LOL

Sharyn




   


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] FW: You **MAY** have spam

2004-06-30 Thread Sharyn Schmidt
Ok..

Does this mean things are working now?

I just ran the test on Scott's website...

SPF lookup of sender [EMAIL PROTECTED] from IP 24.73.160.162:


SPF string used: v=spf1 ip4:24.73.160.162 a mx ptr -all.
Processing SPF string: v=spf1 ip4:24.73.160.162 a mx ptr -all.
Testing 'ip4:24.73.160.162' on IP=24.73.160.162, target domain
24.73.160.162, CIDR 32, default=PASS.  MATCH!
Testing 'a' on IP=24.73.160.162, target domain example.com, CIDR 32,
default=PASS.  Testing 'mx' on IP=24.73.160.162, target domain example.com,
CIDR 32, default=PASS.  Testing 'ptr' on IP=24.73.160.162, target domain
example.com, CIDR 32, default=PASS.  Testing 'all' on IP=24.73.160.162,
target domain example.com, CIDR 32, default=FAIL.  
Result: PASS


This, however, is no guarrantee things are going to work internally though,
is it?


snip from Matt's email
 believe that both CMDSPACE and SPF are inappropriate tests to score unless
you can whitelist your own local users that connect directly to your server
to send E-mail.  If you have IMail 7 and your users are on IP space that you
don't control, you are out of luck, but if you have either IMail 8 and/or
all of your users connect by way of a LAN, then there are ways to do this,
but you should first indicate which of the above applies.


I control all the IPS my users are on, it's a local LAN...192.168.x.x (there
are 5 different subnets) but my mail server is on a DMZ off the firewall,
and I have an smtp proxy enabled. This would indicate that in reality, it's
the IP address of the firewall that is actually handling the internal mail,
as well. So, adding the IP address of the firewall (24.73.160.162) should
work.

I wish there was a way to test this internally. Is there?

Sharyn


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] FW: You **MAY** have spam

2004-06-30 Thread Sharyn Schmidt
I lowered the weight of the spf fail weight to 1 (warn in headers) to test
this internally.

My internal IPs are still failing the spf test.

How do I go about whitelisting 5 subnets of internal IP addresses with IMAIL
7.15?

It's probably not a bad idea anyway, if it's possible, as everything
internally is failing the cmdspace test too.

Sharyn


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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] FW: You **MAY** have spam

2004-06-30 Thread Matt
Sharyn Schmidt wrote:
I control all the IPS my users are on, it's a local LAN...192.168.x.x (there
are 5 different subnets) but my mail server is on a DMZ off the firewall,
and I have an smtp proxy enabled. This would indicate that in reality, it's
the IP address of the firewall that is actually handling the internal mail,
as well. So, adding the IP address of the firewall (24.73.160.162) should
work.
Chances are that you need to IPBYPASS the firewall's IP in your 
global.cfg and then whitelist your LAN by it's IP space.  The SPF record 
should reflect the last IP of your network before it hits the receiving 
server.  This will cure your CMDSPACE issue as well.  I say chances 
are because I'm not sure that all of the relevant information was shared.

Matt
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] FW: You **MAY** have spam

2004-06-30 Thread Sharyn Schmidt

Chances are that you need to IPBYPASS the firewall's IP in your 
global.cfg and then whitelist your LAN by it's IP space.



Do I have to list each individual address separately (will put it at over
200 addresses so this won't work) or can I use a /24 notation for each
subnet block?

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] FW: You **MAY** have spam

2004-06-30 Thread Matt
CIDR ranges do work.  I believe the manual contains examples of this.  
For example:

IPBYPASS24.73.160.162
WHITELISTIP 192.168.0.1/24
Just to be clear on the conditions present, the whitelisting won't work 
if you have users that connect directly (or through your firewall when 
IPBYPASS'ed) from other networks.  For example, a user that is 
connecting from home using their own broadband connection to send E-mail 
directly to your SMTP server will not be whitelisted using this method, 
and this would also result in them failing SPF under this setup, and 
might fail CMDSPACE.  If you have remote users like this, the suggested 
fix won't work as desired and if you are running IMail 7 and not IMail 
8, both SPF and CMDSPACE are probably inappropriate (you can add 
WHITELIST AUTH to your global.cfg with IMail 8 that will take care of 
this problem, but this won't work with IMail 7).

Matt

Sharyn Schmidt wrote:
Chances are that you need to IPBYPASS the firewall's IP in your 
global.cfg and then whitelist your LAN by it's IP space.


Do I have to list each individual address separately (will put it at over
200 addresses so this won't work) or can I use a /24 notation for each
subnet block?
Sharyn
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