[Declude.JunkMail] Habeas headers
If anyone is using the Habeas headers whitelist option you should be aware that topica.com is sending their messages with habeas headers. We have them blacklisted but since the whitelisting overrides everything, their messages were getting through. Greg --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Habeas headers
Report them. http://www.habeas.com/faq/index.htm#5.1 http://www.habeas.com/report/ What is the originating IP address? http://www.habeas.com/services/infringers.htm John Tolmachoff MCSE, CSSA IT Manager, Network Engineer RelianceSoft, Inc. Fullerton, CA 92835 www.reliancesoft.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Helpdesk Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 6:37 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Habeas headers If anyone is using the Habeas headers whitelist option you should be aware that topica.com is sending their messages with habeas headers. We have them blacklisted but since the whitelisting overrides everything, their messages were getting through. Greg --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Habeas headers
Several porn spammers are also using them. They claim that they are using verified opt-in lists, however we have seen several reports from customers that claim they never opted-in for any adult oriented material, however may have for other things. They are apparently buying their opt-in lists from other sources. We have one knowledgable customer that said his wife signed up for some TV shopping network newsletter, and within a week started getting adult messages marked with the Habeas headers. I have had several conversations with the Habeas people. While they claim they will go after violators of the Habeas copyright, I still have not figured out how they will stop spammers that buy what they claim to be legitimate opt-in lists. Here's the biggest problem with Habeas. Once the mark is abused, administrators will stop whitelisting it. They are not going to wait until the legal staff at Habeas is able to stop the use of the mark by a particular spammer. That could take months or longer. This will make Habeas completely ineffective almost overnight. One thing they could do is to add an additional header and force their licensees to use it. It would classify the source as being the original opt-in list owner, or a business partner, meaning someone who bought or rented the list. At least this would help to identify the sender as being the source that you contacted rather then someone who you didn't. Actually, my opinion is that this concept will flame out long before it is ever determined to be useful. On 03/25/03 9:37am you wrote... If anyone is using the Habeas headers whitelist option you should be aware that topica.com is sending their messages with habeas headers. We have them blacklisted but since the whitelisting overrides everything, their messages were getting through. Greg --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. ve.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Habeas headers
This should not be an issue since Habeas headers implies they are adhereing to the strict rules put forth by Habeas, and had to pay for the right to use them, if they are in violation, report them to Habeas, who will take legal action against topica.com for violating the agreement. Thanks, Chuck Frolick ArgoNet, Inc. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Helpdesk Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 8:37 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Habeas headers If anyone is using the Habeas headers whitelist option you should be aware that topica.com is sending their messages with habeas headers. We have them blacklisted but since the whitelisting overrides everything, their messages were getting through. Greg --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Habeas headers
on 3/25/03 10:14 AM, John Tolmachoff wrote: What is the originating IP address? 66.180.244.23 66.180.244.25 66.180.244.28 and I assume others. Greg --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
