Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SURBL as RHSBL

2004-11-23 Thread Bill Landry



Markus, if you want to test against all of the SURBLs, since 
it's only a single query to the multi zone, use:

SURBL_ABrhsblmulti.surbl.org127.0.0.3210SURBL_JPrhsblmulti.surbl.org127.0.0.6410SURBL_OBrhsblmulti.surbl.org127.0.0.1610SURBL_PHrhsblmulti.surbl.org127.0.0.810SURBL_SCrhsblmulti.surbl.org127.0.0.210SURBL_WSrhsblmulti.surbl.org127.0.0.410

AB = AbuseButler data
JP = Combination of Prolocation data  Joe Wein's SpamSpy 
data
OB = OutBlaze data
PH = Combination of MailPolice "Fraud" list data  
MailSecurity "Phishing" list data
SC = SpamCop top 200 hits data
WS = William Stearns  submitter data

I have been testing this for about an hour, and am getting a 
few hits. We'll see how it goes over the next 24 hours...

Bill

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  Markus Gufler 
  
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 11:41 
  PM
  Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SURBL as 
  RHSBL
  Is this the correct configruation line for doing 
  this?SURBLS-RHSBL rhsbl %MAILFROM%.sc.surbl.org 
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SURBL as RHSBL

2004-11-23 Thread Bill Landry
Modification, since I was not thinking, but Declude JunkMail does not
support bitmasked responses.  So instead of using the multi zone, you will
need to use:

SURBL_AB  rhsbl ab.surbl.org127.0.0.2 1 0
SURBL_JP  rhsbl jp.surbl.org127.0.0.2 1 0
SURBL_OB  rhsbl ob.surbl.org127.0.0.2 1 0
SURBL_PH  rhsbl ph.surbl.org127.0.0.2 1 0
SURBL_SC  rhsbl sc.surbl.org127.0.0.2 1 0
SURBL_WS  rhsbl ws.surbl.org127.0.0.2 1 0

Which will require six different queries if you want to use all SURBL lists.

Bill
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From: Bill Landry
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 12:47 AM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SURBL as RHSBL


Markus, if you want to test against all of the SURBLs, since it's only a
single query to the multi zone, use:

SURBL_AB  rhsbl multi.surbl.org127.0.0.32 1 0
SURBL_JP  rhsbl multi.surbl.org127.0.0.64 1 0
SURBL_OB  rhsbl multi.surbl.org127.0.0.16 1 0
SURBL_PH  rhsbl multi.surbl.org127.0.0.8 1 0
SURBL_SC  rhsbl multi.surbl.org127.0.0.2 1 0
SURBL_WS  rhsbl multi.surbl.org127.0.0.4 1 0

AB = AbuseButler data
JP = Combination of Prolocation data  Joe Wein's SpamSpy data
OB = OutBlaze data
PH = Combination of MailPolice Fraud list data  MailSecurity Phishing
list data
SC = SpamCop top 200 hits data
WS = William Stearns  submitter data

I have been testing this for about an hour, and am getting a few hits.
We'll see how it goes over the next 24 hours...


Bill
- Original Message - 
From: Markus Gufler
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 11:41 PM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SURBL as RHSBL


Is this the correct configruation line for doing this?

SURBLS-RHSBL  rhsbl %MAILFROM%.sc.surbl.org  127.0.0.2 5 0


Markus


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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SURBL as RHSBL

2004-11-23 Thread Darin Cox
Hi Bill,

You seem to always be one of the first to share new blacklists.  Where do
you find this info?  Is there another list that would be worth joining?

Thanks, man.

Darin.


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From: Bill Landry [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 5:04 AM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SURBL as RHSBL


Modification, since I was not thinking, but Declude JunkMail does not
support bitmasked responses.  So instead of using the multi zone, you will
need to use:

SURBL_AB  rhsbl ab.surbl.org127.0.0.2 1 0
SURBL_JP  rhsbl jp.surbl.org127.0.0.2 1 0
SURBL_OB  rhsbl ob.surbl.org127.0.0.2 1 0
SURBL_PH  rhsbl ph.surbl.org127.0.0.2 1 0
SURBL_SC  rhsbl sc.surbl.org127.0.0.2 1 0
SURBL_WS  rhsbl ws.surbl.org127.0.0.2 1 0

Which will require six different queries if you want to use all SURBL lists.

Bill
- Original Message - 
From: Bill Landry
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 12:47 AM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SURBL as RHSBL


Markus, if you want to test against all of the SURBLs, since it's only a
single query to the multi zone, use:

SURBL_AB  rhsbl multi.surbl.org127.0.0.32 1 0
SURBL_JP  rhsbl multi.surbl.org127.0.0.64 1 0
SURBL_OB  rhsbl multi.surbl.org127.0.0.16 1 0
SURBL_PH  rhsbl multi.surbl.org127.0.0.8 1 0
SURBL_SC  rhsbl multi.surbl.org127.0.0.2 1 0
SURBL_WS  rhsbl multi.surbl.org127.0.0.4 1 0

AB = AbuseButler data
JP = Combination of Prolocation data  Joe Wein's SpamSpy data
OB = OutBlaze data
PH = Combination of MailPolice Fraud list data  MailSecurity Phishing
list data
SC = SpamCop top 200 hits data
WS = William Stearns  submitter data

I have been testing this for about an hour, and am getting a few hits.
We'll see how it goes over the next 24 hours...


Bill
- Original Message - 
From: Markus Gufler
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 11:41 PM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SURBL as RHSBL


Is this the correct configruation line for doing this?

SURBLS-RHSBL  rhsbl %MAILFROM%.sc.surbl.org  127.0.0.2 5 0


Markus


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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SURBL as RHSBL

2004-11-23 Thread Jason @ AreaTech
I would rather not add six new tests to my config.  Would you recommend a
single SURBL test?  Which one seems to work better?

Regards,

Jason

- Original Message - 
From: Darin Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 8:02 AM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SURBL as RHSBL


 Hi Bill,

 You seem to always be one of the first to share new blacklists.  Where do
 you find this info?  Is there another list that would be worth joining?

 Thanks, man.

 Darin.


 - Original Message - 
 From: Bill Landry [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 5:04 AM
 Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SURBL as RHSBL


 Modification, since I was not thinking, but Declude JunkMail does not
 support bitmasked responses.  So instead of using the multi zone, you will
 need to use:

 SURBL_AB  rhsbl ab.surbl.org127.0.0.2 1 0
 SURBL_JP  rhsbl jp.surbl.org127.0.0.2 1 0
 SURBL_OB  rhsbl ob.surbl.org127.0.0.2 1 0
 SURBL_PH  rhsbl ph.surbl.org127.0.0.2 1 0
 SURBL_SC  rhsbl sc.surbl.org127.0.0.2 1 0
 SURBL_WS  rhsbl ws.surbl.org127.0.0.2 1 0

 Which will require six different queries if you want to use all SURBL
lists.

 Bill
 - Original Message - 
 From: Bill Landry
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 12:47 AM
 Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SURBL as RHSBL


 Markus, if you want to test against all of the SURBLs, since it's only a
 single query to the multi zone, use:

 SURBL_AB  rhsbl multi.surbl.org127.0.0.32 1 0
 SURBL_JP  rhsbl multi.surbl.org127.0.0.64 1 0
 SURBL_OB  rhsbl multi.surbl.org127.0.0.16 1 0
 SURBL_PH  rhsbl multi.surbl.org127.0.0.8 1 0
 SURBL_SC  rhsbl multi.surbl.org127.0.0.2 1 0
 SURBL_WS  rhsbl multi.surbl.org127.0.0.4 1 0

 AB = AbuseButler data
 JP = Combination of Prolocation data  Joe Wein's SpamSpy data
 OB = OutBlaze data
 PH = Combination of MailPolice Fraud list data  MailSecurity Phishing
 list data
 SC = SpamCop top 200 hits data
 WS = William Stearns  submitter data

 I have been testing this for about an hour, and am getting a few hits.
 We'll see how it goes over the next 24 hours...


 Bill
 - Original Message - 
 From: Markus Gufler
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 11:41 PM
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SURBL as RHSBL


 Is this the correct configruation line for doing this?

 SURBLS-RHSBL  rhsbl %MAILFROM%.sc.surbl.org  127.0.0.2 5 0


 Markus


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SURBL as RHSBL

2004-11-23 Thread Markus Gufler

 I would rather not add six new tests to my config.  Would you 
 recommend a single SURBL test?  Which one seems to work better?

I've running it now on my servers and can report the first results after 24
hours. I'll let you know how much and how accurate all 6 tests will perform.

Markus



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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SURBL as RHSBL

2004-11-23 Thread Scott Fisher
How are the results stacking up against your other RHSBL tests?

Very promising. Near the top of the class for RHSBL tests.

Here are my results:

From 11/11/2004 throught 11/22:
CatchallMails 53741 total  40835 spam (76%)
AHBL-Domains  4580 total4188 spam (91.4%)
Mailpolice Bulk 10629 total  10558 spam (99.3%)
Mailpolice Porn   20 total20 spam (100%)
RFCI badwhois domain 1326 total 1105 spam (83.3%)
RFCI badwhois tld2228 total  1705 spam (76.5%)
RFCI bogus mx  816 total752 spam (92.3%)
RFCI DSN   2312 total  2282 spam (98.7%)
RFCI No abuse 8187 total 6578 spam (80.4%)
RFCI No postmaster 5915 total 5225 spam (88.4%)
SecuritySage  1731 total1652 spam (95.5%)
Sorbs BadConf191 total  191 spam (100%)
Sorbs Nomail   0 total
SURBL Multi 7957 total7921 spam (99.5%)

Looking at the .5% of the SURBL-Multi that fell under my hold category, the
bulk of these 36 definitely fall into the grey area of could be spam, might
be legit. E-mail promoting training, surveys, compliance seminars and such.
None of the .5% looks to be solidly legit.

Starting 11/20 I broke out the tests and was looking at them individual...
From 11/20 Noonish through 11/22:
SURBL Multi 1741 total1733 spam (99.6%)
SURBL Abuse Butler 11 total11 spam (100%)
SURBL Bigevil   1585 total1577 spam (99.5%)
SURBL Spamcop   46 total46 spam (100%)
SURBL Outblaze  928 total   928 spam (100%)

I don't believe the Jon Wein and the Phish are testable on their own. I
haven't received an hits on jp.surbl.org.

I did download Jon Wein's domains and Mailfrom's from his website and put
them into my DNS for rhsbl and mfbl testing.
Yesterday since 10 AM I had
Jon Wein Domain  573 total 573 spam (100%)
Jon Wein Mailfrom1 total 1 spam (100%)

- Original Message - 
From: Bill Landry [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 6:12 PM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SURBL as RHSBL


 Hmmm, that could possibly render some decent results if spammers use the
 same domain in the MAIL FROM: address in the SMTP envelope as they us in
 the URI listed in the body of the message.  How are the results stacking
up
 against your other RHSBL tests?

 Bill
 - Original Message - 
 From: Scott Fisher [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 2:59 PM
 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] SURBL as RHSBL


 I know it is not the intended use of the SURBL list, but is anyone else
 using the SURBL test as a RHSBL test?
 I just figured if the URL is used for spam, do I really want to be
 receiving e-mail from that domain?
 So far it has been  99.5% effective.

 I'm just curious to see if anyone else has tried it?


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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SURBL as RHSBL

2004-11-23 Thread Bill Landry



It's info gleaned from several different lists. I always 
try to report anything new to this list anyway...

Bill

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Darin Cox 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 6:02 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SURBL as 
  RHSBL
  Hi Bill,You seem to always be one of the first to share 
  new blacklists. Where doyou find this info? Is there another 
  list that would be worth joining?Thanks, 
  man.Darin.- Original Message - From: "Bill 
  Landry" [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: 
  Tuesday, November 23, 2004 5:04 AMSubject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SURBL as 
  RHSBLModification, since I was not thinking, but Declude JunkMail 
  does notsupport bitmasked responses. So instead of using the multi 
  zone, you willneed to use:SURBL_AB rhsbl 
  ab.surbl.org 127.0.0.2 1 0SURBL_JP rhsbl 
  jp.surbl.org 127.0.0.2 1 0SURBL_OB rhsbl 
  ob.surbl.org 127.0.0.2 1 0SURBL_PH rhsbl 
  ph.surbl.org 127.0.0.2 1 0SURBL_SC rhsbl 
  sc.surbl.org 127.0.0.2 1 0SURBL_WS rhsbl 
  ws.surbl.org 127.0.0.2 1 0Which will require six 
  different queries if you want to use all SURBL lists.Bill- 
  Original Message - From: Bill LandryTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: 
  Tuesday, November 23, 2004 12:47 AMSubject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SURBL 
  as RHSBLMarkus, if you want to test against all of the SURBLs, 
  since it's only asingle query to the multi zone, 
  use:SURBL_AB rhsbl multi.surbl.org 127.0.0.32 
  1 0SURBL_JP rhsbl multi.surbl.org 127.0.0.64 1 
  0SURBL_OB rhsbl multi.surbl.org 127.0.0.16 1 
  0SURBL_PH rhsbl multi.surbl.org 127.0.0.8 1 
  0SURBL_SC rhsbl multi.surbl.org 127.0.0.2 1 
  0SURBL_WS rhsbl multi.surbl.org 127.0.0.4 1 
  0AB = AbuseButler dataJP = Combination of Prolocation data  
  Joe Wein's SpamSpy dataOB = OutBlaze dataPH = Combination of 
  MailPolice "Fraud" list data  MailSecurity "Phishing"list dataSC 
  = SpamCop top 200 hits dataWS = William Stearns  submitter 
  dataI have been testing this for about an hour, and am getting a few 
  hits.We'll see how it goes over the next 24 
  hours...Bill- Original Message - From: Markus 
  GuflerTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: 
  Monday, November 22, 2004 11:41 PMSubject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SURBL as 
  RHSBLIs this the correct configruation line for doing 
  this?SURBLS-RHSBL rhsbl %MAILFROM%.sc.surbl.org 127.0.0.2 
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SURBL as RHSBL

2004-11-23 Thread Bill Landry
- Original Message - 
From: Scott Fisher

 I don't believe the Jon Wein and the Phish are testable on their own. I
 haven't received an hits on jp.surbl.org.

Yep, that does appear to be the case for the JP list - it was the last list
added to SURBL, and since it was added after the creation of the MULTI
bitmasked setup, it was apparently never setup as a separate zone.  The PH
list has a very low hit rate anyway, since it only contains a few hundred
domains.

Bill

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SURBL as RHSBL

2004-11-23 Thread Bill Landry



WS is the heaviest hitter. You could add all of these 
lists as a single test which will hit on any response from any of the 
lists:

SURBL rhsbl multi.surbl.org * 1 
0

Bill


  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Jason @ 
  AreaTech 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 7:15 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SURBL as 
  RHSBL
  I would rather not add six new tests to my config. Would 
  you recommend asingle SURBL test? Which one seems to work 
  better?Regards,Jason- Original Message - 
  From: "Darin Cox" [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: 
  Tuesday, November 23, 2004 8:02 AMSubject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SURBL as 
  RHSBL Hi Bill, You seem to always be one of 
  the first to share new blacklists. Where do you find this 
  info? Is there another list that would be worth joining? 
  Thanks, man. Darin. - Original 
  Message -  From: "Bill Landry" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 5:04 AM Subject: Re: 
  [Declude.JunkMail] SURBL as RHSBL Modification, since 
  I was not thinking, but Declude JunkMail does not support bitmasked 
  responses. So instead of using the multi zone, you will need to 
  use: SURBL_AB rhsbl ab.surbl.org 
  127.0.0.2 1 0 SURBL_JP rhsbl jp.surbl.org 
  127.0.0.2 1 0 SURBL_OB rhsbl ob.surbl.org 
  127.0.0.2 1 0 SURBL_PH rhsbl ph.surbl.org 
  127.0.0.2 1 0 SURBL_SC rhsbl sc.surbl.org 
  127.0.0.2 1 0 SURBL_WS rhsbl ws.surbl.org 
  127.0.0.2 1 0 Which will require six different queries if you 
  want to use all SURBLlists. Bill - Original 
  Message -  From: Bill Landry To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 12:47 AM Subject: Re: 
  [Declude.JunkMail] SURBL as RHSBL Markus, if you want 
  to test against all of the SURBLs, since it's only a single query to 
  the multi zone, use: SURBL_AB rhsbl 
  multi.surbl.org 127.0.0.32 1 0 SURBL_JP rhsbl 
  multi.surbl.org 127.0.0.64 1 0 SURBL_OB rhsbl 
  multi.surbl.org 127.0.0.16 1 0 SURBL_PH rhsbl 
  multi.surbl.org 127.0.0.8 1 0 SURBL_SC rhsbl 
  multi.surbl.org 127.0.0.2 1 0 SURBL_WS rhsbl 
  multi.surbl.org 127.0.0.4 1 0 AB = 
  AbuseButler data JP = Combination of Prolocation data  Joe Wein's 
  SpamSpy data OB = OutBlaze data PH = Combination of MailPolice 
  "Fraud" list data  MailSecurity "Phishing" list data SC = 
  SpamCop top 200 hits data WS = William Stearns  submitter 
  data I have been testing this for about an hour, and am 
  getting a few hits. We'll see how it goes over the next 24 
  hours... Bill - Original Message - 
   From: Markus Gufler To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 11:41 PM Subject: RE: 
  [Declude.JunkMail] SURBL as RHSBL Is this the correct 
  configruation line for doing this? SURBLS-RHSBL rhsbl 
  %MAILFROM%.sc.surbl.org 127.0.0.2 5 0 
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SURBL as RHSBL

2004-11-23 Thread Bill Landry



Folks, apparently the PH and JP lists were never setup as 
separate SURBL zones, so I would recommend not querying those lists as you will 
never get a response from them until Declude JunkMail supports bitmasked 
responses.

Bill

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  Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 7:32 
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  Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SURBL as 
  RHSBL
   I would rather not add six new tests to my 
  config. Would you  recommend a single SURBL test? Which 
  one seems to work better?I've running it now on my servers and can 
  report the first results after 24hours. I'll let you know how much and how 
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SURBL as RHSBL

2004-11-23 Thread Markus Gufler



thanks for pointing that out. 

Looking at the first hourly results from MDLP I can see 
some hits for WS. (around 15 per hour)
OB, SC and AB has only one up to 4 hits per 
hour.
The SURBL filter file has between 300 and 400 hits in the 
same time ranges.

There was no SH result (SURBL says it's Spam but final 
weight say it's Ham)
Nearly all messages catched by SURBL_xx has already a final 
weight above 200% of my hold weight.

So don't expect too much, from SURBL - RHSBL 
lookups

Markus



  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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  LandrySent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 5:47 PMTo: 
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  as RHSBL
  
  Folks, apparently the PH and JP lists were never setup as 
  separate SURBL zones, so I would recommend not querying those lists as you 
  will never get a response from them until Declude JunkMail supports bitmasked 
  responses.
  
  Bill
  
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From: 
Markus 
Gufler 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 7:32 
AM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SURBL 
as RHSBL
 I would rather not add six new tests to my 
config. Would you  recommend a single SURBL test? Which 
one seems to work better?I've running it now on my servers and can 
report the first results after 24hours. I'll let you know how much and 
how accurate all 6 tests will 
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[Declude.JunkMail] SURBL as RHSBL

2004-11-22 Thread Scott Fisher



I know it is not the intended use of the SURBL 
list, but is anyone else using the SURBL test as a RHSBL test?
I just figured if the URL is used for spam, do I 
really want to be receiving e-mail from that domain?
So far it has been  99.5% 
effective.

I'm just curious to see if anyone else has tried 
it?



Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SURBL as RHSBL

2004-11-22 Thread Bill Landry
Hmmm, that could possibly render some decent results if spammers use the
same domain in the MAIL FROM: address in the SMTP envelope as they us in
the URI listed in the body of the message.  How are the results stacking up
against your other RHSBL tests?

Bill
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Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 2:59 PM
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] SURBL as RHSBL


I know it is not the intended use of the SURBL list, but is anyone else
using the SURBL test as a RHSBL test?
I just figured if the URL is used for spam, do I really want to be
receiving e-mail from that domain?
So far it has been  99.5% effective.

I'm just curious to see if anyone else has tried it?


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SURBL as RHSBL

2004-11-22 Thread Markus Gufler
Is this the correct configruation line for doing this?
 
SURBLS-RHSBL  rhsbl %MAILFROM%.sc.surbl.org  127.0.0.2 5 0


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