Re: [Declude.JunkMail] AOL fwding

2002-12-19 Thread R. Scott Perry


   I am investigating a problem in which messages to a local account,
forwarded to AOL are not received - the thinking is that they are blocked as
spam since they have a FROM [EMAIL PROTECTED] , but come from a  non-hotmail
server.

   Everything else straight to AOL seems to be working.


I haven't heard of AOL blocking outgoing E-mail, but it certainly is possible.

Have you checked your IMail SMTP log files to see if there were any 
connection attempts for that E-mail?  Have you tried entering the To: 
address in the Mail Test box at http://www.DNSreport.com to see if it 
reports any problems?
-Scott

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] AOL fwding

2002-12-19 Thread niceman
To clarify, the email comes to a local account, which is forwarded to an E-mail 
address @aol.com .   I see in the logs where AOL has accepted the message but 
the customer says it never gets to the AOL inbox.   I will try to contact AOL 
and see what they say.
 I am investigating a problem in which messages to a local account,
 forwarded to AOL are not received - the thinking is that they are blocked as
 spam since they have a FROM [EMAIL PROTECTED] , but come from a  non-hotmail
 server.
 
 Everything else straight to AOL seems to be working.
 
 I haven't heard of AOL blocking outgoing E-mail, but it certainly is possible.
 
 Have you checked your IMail SMTP log files to see if there were any 
 connection attempts for that E-mail?  Have you tried entering the To: 
 address in the Mail Test box at http://www.DNSreport.com to see if it 
 reports any problems?
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] AOL fwding

2002-12-19 Thread R. Scott Perry


To clarify, the email comes to a local account, which is forwarded to an 
E-mail
address @aol.com .   I see in the logs where AOL has accepted the message but
the customer says it never gets to the AOL inbox.   I will try to contact AOL
and see what they say.

Ah, I see.  I'm guessing that AOL must see something about the forwarded 
message (perhaps extra Received: headers)  and uses that as part of its 
secret calculation for determining when to silently drop E-mail.

If AOL does say anything about this, I would be very interested to know 
what they say, as I believe they do not acknowledge the secret spam 
filtering (as opposed to the standard spam filtering, where they will 
bounce the E-mails).
 -Scott

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] AOL fwding

2002-12-19 Thread Mike Griffin - Handy Networks, LLC

If AOL does say anything about this, I would be very interested to know

what they say, as I believe they do not acknowledge the secret spam 
filtering (as opposed to the standard spam filtering, where they will 
bounce the E-mails).
  
We had a similar issue where AOL black-holed one particular mail server
IP on us.  Relaying through a different server on the same netblock
worked fine, so they were clearly blocking that specific IP for some
unknown reason.  

I contacted them repeatedly regarding the issue and a couple weeks later
they simply said it was fixed.  No explanation why they blocked the IP
or any other details to go on.  

- Mike Griffin
Handy Networks, LLC
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] AOL fwding

2002-12-19 Thread paul

If AOL does say anything about this, I would be very interested to know

what they say, as I believe they do not acknowledge the secret spam
filtering (as opposed to the standard spam filtering, where they will
bounce the E-mails).

Please, with the amount of junk I get in my AOHell mailbox, and the amount
of junk I get FROM AOHell through our server, they don't do a very good job
of Spam control.

But I'd be interested to know myself if AOL says anything. Keep us posted.

Paul


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] AOL fwding

2002-12-19 Thread John Tolmachoff
 Please, with the amount of junk I get in my AOHell mailbox, and the amount
 of junk I get FROM AOHell through our server, they don't do a very good
job
 of Spam control.

Sending and receiving are 2 different actions.

John Tolmachoff MCSE, CSSA
IT Manager, Network Engineer
RelianceSoft, Inc.
Fullerton, CA  92835
www.reliancesoft.com



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