RE: [Declude.JunkMail] New test request

2003-09-11 Thread Markus Gufler
How about a test like this: NUMBERSINMAILFROM It would be similar to SUBJECTSPACES but would count the amount of numbers in the mail from address. You could then configure it for say if 10 or more, add 5 to the weight and so forth. John, We already look for sender-addresses

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] New test request

2003-09-11 Thread Kami Razvan
] New test request How about a test like this: NUMBERSINMAILFROM It would be similar to SUBJECTSPACES but would count the amount of numbers in the mail from address. You could then configure it for say if 10 or more, add 5 to the weight and so forth. John, We already look

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] New test request

2003-09-10 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
Any thoughts, good or bad? John Tolmachoff MCSE CSSA Engineer/Consultant eServices For You www.eservicesforyou.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Tolmachoff (Lists) Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 10:32 PM

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] New test request

2003-09-10 Thread R. Scott Perry
Any thoughts, good or bad? It's one that we do hope to add. It's not foolproof (such as [EMAIL PROTECTED]), but would be useful in helping catch spam. -Scott --- Declude JunkMail: The advanced anti-spam solution for IMail mailservers. Declude

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] New test request

2003-09-10 Thread Matthew Bramble
That would work great at detecting old Compuserve accounts :) I'm not convinced that this would be a very clear marker for spam though (depends on what the automated real stuff does), but you could probably set up a filter to test the theory First create a filter file test and score it as a

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] New test request

2003-09-10 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
Sorry, I've no great insight on the positive uses of this test, but I can point out another exception. E-mail enabled pagers and RIM Blackberries often have their phone number as the e-mail address @TheProviderDomain.com instead of or in addition to the subscriber's name. Andrew. --- [This

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] New test request

2003-09-10 Thread Robert Grosshandler
Title: Message maybe a bad idea - We send out e-mail that has a Variable Return Address, so that we can handle bounces well. In our case, that address is a combo of letters and numbers (lots of numbers sometimes). And, we work hard to make sure our mail is all requested! Other legit

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] New test request

2003-09-10 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Colbeck, Andrew Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 12:32 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] New test request Sorry, I've no great insight on the positive uses of this test, but I can point out another exception. E-mail enabled

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] New test request

2003-09-10 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
Here's some examples of mailing lists that have lots of numbers (and letters) in the MAILFROM. You may find that you'll have to put in a counterweight everytime a user reports that they're missing mail when they sign up for a newsletter. Andrew 8) p.s. I've deliberately munged the addresses a

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] New test request

2003-09-10 Thread Matthew Bramble
Dan Patnode wrote: Good point, The goal then should be to differentiate numbers used as codes from numbers used to confuse. The former tend to be contiguous while the later (in my experience), tend to be mixed in with letters. Perhaps if the test counted numbers with letters on both sides?

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] New test request

2003-09-10 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
JT Pagers have 10 numbers, so I would actually start at either 11 or 15. JT An old CompuServe address will most likely not be failing other tests to JT where this one would put it over. How many numbers do those addresses have JT in them? Nine digits, e.g [EMAIL PROTECTED] (that was mine for 5

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] New test request

2003-09-10 Thread Matthew Bramble
I wouldn't consider that to be spam. Amazon? Travelocity? Yahoo Groups? Most of these are opt-in sources (by way of membership or purchase), and doing the bounce test that they are doing is in fact responsible use of commercial E-mail. If you are going to monitor for failed receivers, that

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] New test request

2003-09-10 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
MB GIBBERISHSUB filter C:\IMail\Declude\GibberishSub.txt x 1 0 MB SUBJECT2CONTAINSqb (snip) This looks good, Matthew. The weight is low enough to be cautious, and I suspect the only false positives you will get are on subject lines with that raw =?ISO-8859-1?B?UmU6U2lsZG stuff.

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] New test request

2003-09-10 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
Engineer/Consultant eServices For You www.eservicesforyou.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Colbeck, Andrew Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 1:35 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] New test

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] New test request

2003-09-10 Thread Matthew Bramble
Thanks Andrew...I like my apples :) Some stuff could be put back in that I took out while testing the filter for the body before I found out that it caught attachments. I was careful to take out things like ql because of MSSQL, and I searched a dictionary file for matches on the other strings

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] New test request

2003-09-10 Thread Dan Patnode
Wow, what a sweet idea Matthew! Applying rules of English (like Q is always followed by U) to look for gibberish. :) Yea, so long as BODY searches attachments, any small code will sooner or later show up in an attachment. I've even had problems trying hard tests for complete words where an