RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SPAMCOP Account
I don't see the reasoning behind sending SPAMCOP thousands of e-mails per day that are already stopped by your system. Presence in SPAMCOP is temporary. To REMAIN listed, you need to keep submitting SPAM so that the senders keep getting listed. Best Regards Andy Schmidt HM Systems Software, Inc. 600 East Crescent Avenue, Suite 203 Upper Saddle River, NJ 07458-1846 Phone: +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business) Fax:+1 201 934-9206 http://www.HM-Software.com/ --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SPAMCOP Account
Dan.. BE VERY CAREFUL IF YOU DO THIS... We were doing this and once someone from the list sent me an email with bunch of keywords in it.. The system automatically forwarded it to the SPAMCop account. If you do this make sure you review every spam that goes into your account and approve them knowing it is a spam and not someone that just happen to send you bunch of words in your filter file. Regards, Kami -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Geiser Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 4:53 PM To: Declude JunkMail Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] SPAMCOP Account Hello, All, I signed up for a free Spamcop account a few weeks ago and I've been using it to submit spam via their web-based form. In addition to allowing spam submittal via a web-based form they also give you a unique e-mail address which you can forward spam to. I was thinking about setting up Declude JunkMail to send all the mail which I would normally just DELETE because of High weight to this unique e-mail address. Before I do this I had a few questions... 1) Does anyone else do what I am describing? If so, does it work well? 2) If I want to forward all mail above a certain weight, say a weight of 45, would the ROUTETO action be the correct action to use. I don't want to keep a copy of the e-mail in my HOLD directory. 3) If ROUTETO is the correct action, when the message is sent to Spamcop what will the FROM address be? Will it be the original sender's e-mail address or a special e-mail address which DJM assigns to itself? I think that's all for now. Thanks, Much! Dan Geiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Sign up for virus-free and spam-free e-mail with Nexus Technology Group http://www.nexustechgroup.com/mailscan --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SPAMCOP Account
Typically I only send SPAMCOP e-mails that pass through our Declude filters. The theory being that now SPAMCOP will know about that address, list it, and it won't clear Declude again. I don't see the reasoning behind sending SPAMCOP thousands of e-mails per day that are already stopped by your system. The benefit of manually sending is exactly what Kami noted below. You won't inadvertently submit good guys. Also, if you poke around SPAMCOPS site, there is a program you can get called SpamSource that plugs into Outlook. Once installed/configured, all I have to do to report spam is click on the SpamSource button, and it submits to SPAMCOP. Jason -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kami Razvan Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 4:00 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SPAMCOP Account Dan.. BE VERY CAREFUL IF YOU DO THIS... We were doing this and once someone from the list sent me an email with bunch of keywords in it.. The system automatically forwarded it to the SPAMCop account. If you do this make sure you review every spam that goes into your account and approve them knowing it is a spam and not someone that just happen to send you bunch of words in your filter file. Regards, Kami -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Geiser Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 4:53 PM To: Declude JunkMail Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] SPAMCOP Account Hello, All, I signed up for a free Spamcop account a few weeks ago and I've been using it to submit spam via their web-based form. In addition to allowing spam submittal via a web-based form they also give you a unique e-mail address which you can forward spam to. I was thinking about setting up Declude JunkMail to send all the mail which I would normally just DELETE because of High weight to this unique e-mail address. Before I do this I had a few questions... 1) Does anyone else do what I am describing? If so, does it work well? 2) If I want to forward all mail above a certain weight, say a weight of 45, would the ROUTETO action be the correct action to use. I don't want to keep a copy of the e-mail in my HOLD directory. 3) If ROUTETO is the correct action, when the message is sent to Spamcop what will the FROM address be? Will it be the original sender's e-mail address or a special e-mail address which DJM assigns to itself? I think that's all for now. Thanks, Much! Dan Geiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Sign up for virus-free and spam-free e-mail with Nexus Technology Group http://www.nexustechgroup.com/mailscan --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SPAMCOP Account
I understand what you are saying here. If there's any chance whatsoever that I would send a legit e-mail to Spamcop as spam then I won't set it up. I think the real problem is that the idea behind Spamcop is people reporting unsolicted E-mail. The failure of enough Declude tests *should* indicate that an E-mail is spam. However, that isn't guaranteed. A good case in point is that Ipswitch made it into a spam database today simply because an E-mail they sent failed too many spam tests. -Scott --- Declude JunkMail: The advanced anti-spam solution for IMail mailservers. Declude Virus: Catches known viruses and is the leader in mailserver vulnerability detection. Find out what you've been missing: Ask about our free 30-day evaluation. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SPAMCOP Account
Jason, From what I can see on the Spamcop web site the way they decide whether a message should be blacklisted is not solely based on one report. Instead it is based on how many different people submit it, among other things. As long as I'm only submitting unique messages that I am 100% sure are spam then I think I would be helping to enforce the algorithm that Spamcop uses to decide whether messages which are being submitted are spam or not. I'm not talking about submitting thousands of e-mails a day. I think I my current setup deletes about 1200 messages a week. Any feedback on my other 2 questions? Thanks, Dan - Original Message - From: Jason Newland [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 5:17 PM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SPAMCOP Account Typically I only send SPAMCOP e-mails that pass through our Declude filters. The theory being that now SPAMCOP will know about that address, list it, and it won't clear Declude again. I don't see the reasoning behind sending SPAMCOP thousands of e-mails per day that are already stopped by your system. The benefit of manually sending is exactly what Kami noted below. You won't inadvertently submit good guys. Also, if you poke around SPAMCOPS site, there is a program you can get called SpamSource that plugs into Outlook. Once installed/configured, all I have to do to report spam is click on the SpamSource button, and it submits to SPAMCOP. Jason -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kami Razvan Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 4:00 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SPAMCOP Account Dan.. BE VERY CAREFUL IF YOU DO THIS... We were doing this and once someone from the list sent me an email with bunch of keywords in it.. The system automatically forwarded it to the SPAMCop account. If you do this make sure you review every spam that goes into your account and approve them knowing it is a spam and not someone that just happen to send you bunch of words in your filter file. Regards, Kami -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Geiser Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 4:53 PM To: Declude JunkMail Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] SPAMCOP Account Hello, All, I signed up for a free Spamcop account a few weeks ago and I've been using it to submit spam via their web-based form. In addition to allowing spam submittal via a web-based form they also give you a unique e-mail address which you can forward spam to. I was thinking about setting up Declude JunkMail to send all the mail which I would normally just DELETE because of High weight to this unique e-mail address. Before I do this I had a few questions... 1) Does anyone else do what I am describing? If so, does it work well? 2) If I want to forward all mail above a certain weight, say a weight of 45, would the ROUTETO action be the correct action to use. I don't want to keep a copy of the e-mail in my HOLD directory. 3) If ROUTETO is the correct action, when the message is sent to Spamcop what will the FROM address be? Will it be the original sender's e-mail address or a special e-mail address which DJM assigns to itself? I think that's all for now. Thanks, Much! Dan Geiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Sign up for virus-free and spam-free e-mail with Nexus Technology Group http://www.nexustechgroup.com/mailscan --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- Sign up for virus-free and spam-free e-mail with Nexus Technology Group http://www.nexustechgroup.com/mailscan --- Sign up for virus-free and spam-free e-mail with Nexus Technology Group http://www.nexustechgroup.com/mailscan --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SPAMCOP Account
Scott, I understand what you are saying. But I am only going to be forwarding High Weight spam to SPAMCOP. This is just the spam that I would normally delete. I'm talking about mail that is scored like 55 or higher in my current setup. A message which scores 55 typically has to fail 7 or 8 tests. In the case of Ipswitch, they might have got on a Blacklist but there's no way in my system that they would've failed enough other tests to be flagged as a high weight spam message. Any feedback on my other 2 questions? Thanks, Dan - Original Message - From: R. Scott Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 5:36 PM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SPAMCOP Account I understand what you are saying here. If there's any chance whatsoever that I would send a legit e-mail to Spamcop as spam then I won't set it up. I think the real problem is that the idea behind Spamcop is people reporting unsolicted E-mail. The failure of enough Declude tests *should* indicate that an E-mail is spam. However, that isn't guaranteed. A good case in point is that Ipswitch made it into a spam database today simply because an E-mail they sent failed too many spam tests. -Scott --- Declude JunkMail: The advanced anti-spam solution for IMail mailservers. Declude Virus: Catches known viruses and is the leader in mailserver vulnerability detection. Find out what you've been missing: Ask about our free 30-day evaluation. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- Sign up for virus-free and spam-free e-mail with Nexus Technology Group http://www.nexustechgroup.com/mailscan --- Sign up for virus-free and spam-free e-mail with Nexus Technology Group http://www.nexustechgroup.com/mailscan --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
