Re: [Declude.JunkMail] WEIGHT for a File Attachment

2006-11-05 Thread Dave Doherty

One way, where X is the weight you wish to assign:

BODYXCONTAINSContent-Type: image/gif;

Be careful with this because a lot of legit emails contain GIFs.

-Dave Doherty
Skywaves, Inc.
508-425-7176
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Is there a way I can add a weight value is a file attachment is a  
certain type, ie GIF?


David



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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Weight

2006-02-02 Thread Scott Fisher
Title: Weight



When I started, I ended up with a comfortable 
system with the weights subject tag 14, hold 28 delete at 35.
I didn't like oddity of the numbers and sometimes 
wanted a finer granuality. So I mutiplied all of my weight by 7.
I ended up with subject tag at100, hold at 
200 and delete at 300. Nice round numbers that the users can 
understand.

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Kelly 
  Scotto 
  To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com 
  
  Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 1:31 
  PM
  Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Weight
  
  I am curious about why you use such a high weight 
  of 200. I use the default 10 14 and 20. Is there any benefit to using higher 
  weights?
  Regards, 
  Kelly Scotto Assistant Network Administrator Speedee Cash Management 850-682-0475 
  ex.1801 


RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Weight

2006-02-02 Thread Kelly
Title: Message



Added 
the personal touch. Gotcha!

  
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  [Declude.JunkMail] Weight
  When I started, I ended up with a comfortable 
  system with the weights subject tag 14, hold 28 delete at 35.
  I didn't like oddity of the numbers and sometimes 
  wanted a finer granuality. So I mutiplied all of my weight by 7.
  I ended up with subject tag at100, hold at 
  200 and delete at 300. Nice round numbers that the users can 
  understand.
  
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From: 
Kelly 
Scotto 
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com 

Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 1:31 
PM
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] 
Weight

I am curious about why you use such a high weight 
of 200. I use the default 10 14 and 20. Is there any benefit to using higher 
weights?
Regards, 
Kelly Scotto Assistant Network Administrator Speedee Cash Management 850-682-0475 ex.1801 


Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Weight values used in Junkmail config

2005-04-27 Thread Darrell \([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Dan,

A couple of excellent tests to try out are Sort Monsters Sniffer and our URI
filter plug-in for Declude.  Both of those tests can be evaluated for free.

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Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 6:36 PM
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Weight values used in Junkmail config


 The config files I originally got with Junkmail use a weight range of
 mostly 10 or less for individual tests.  I just downloaded 2.06 and it
 is the same and contains these lines:
 WEIGHT10WARN
 WEIGHT14SUBJECT **SPAM**
 WEIGHT20HOLD%DATE%

 It appears to me that most of you are using much a much higher scale.  I
 can see the value of that since it provides more granularity.  My
 question is, does anyone have configs they are sharing or will share to
 get me started.  I plan to make some time to work on tuning my config to
 catch more spam and it would be nice to not have to start from scratch.

 Thanks all,

 -- 

 Dan Shadix
 IT Systems Administrator
 Terry Reilly Health Services

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Weight Ranges

2004-06-18 Thread R. Scott Perry

How much extra processing to an e-mail does adding a bunch of weight
range statements like:
WEIGHT1019  weightrange x x 10 19
WEIGHT2029  weightrange x x 20 29
WEIGHT3034  weightrange x x 30 34
WEIGHT3539  weightrange x x 35 39
I really just want these just to report on from the logs rather than
take action on them during e-mail processing. My guess is that it should
not take too much CPU.
You are correct; the weightrange tests use only a negligible amount of CPU 
time.

Also if I so not want these tests to show up in the %TESTSFAILED%
variable then would I add
HIDETESTS WEIGHT1019 WEIGHT2029..
And would I need to put in the $default$.junkmail file
WEIGHT1019 LOG
Correct.  Note that you could simply not include the WEIGHT1019 line in the 
$default$.JunkMail file, which would have the same effect.

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Weight Ranges

2004-06-18 Thread Goran Jovanovic
 Also if I so not want these tests to show up in the %TESTSFAILED%
 variable then would I add
 
 HIDETESTS WEIGHT1019 WEIGHT2029..
 
 And would I need to put in the $default$.junkmail file
 
 WEIGHT1019 LOG
 
 Correct.  Note that you could simply not include the WEIGHT1019 line
in
 the
 $default$.JunkMail file, which would have the same effect.
 

Personally I like to have it written down in the .junkmail file so that
there is no confusion about the test and if it is being employed etc.
The KISS principle.

Thanx
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] %WEIGHT% variable as -100

2004-05-06 Thread R. Scott Perry

This may be very minor and possibly just cosmetic, I have found that some 
messages will have a %WEIGHT% variable returned for a WARN action that is 
-100 when such a score is impossible on our system.  The example below is 
from a message that scored 0 in the logs (seemingly correct), but shows 
differently in the headers.  I'm using 1.79i6 currently and am not aware 
of any ill effects as a result.

X-MailPure: Spam Score: -100
How is the WARN action set up?  Which version of Declude are you running?
   -Scott
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] %WEIGHT% variable as -100

2004-05-06 Thread Matt
Scott,
Sorry, it wasn't the WARN action, it's coming from the XOUTHEADER 
(gatewayed client in this example):

   XOUTHEADERX-MailPure: Spam Score: %WEIGHT%
   - or -
   XINHEADERX-MailPure: Spam Score: %WEIGHT%
1.79i6 is the version that I am running presently.  Following are some 
other examples, with the first appearance in my inbox being April 12th 
which happens to be less than a week after you added the weight variable 
to the external tests, and just after you resolved the issue where the 
weights were appearing about 500 points above what they really were 
(only in the %WEIGHT% variable).  I don't believe this has affected how 
Declude handles the E-mail, just the %WEIGHT% variable itself.  It 
appears that the issue with the -100 only happens when the total score 
is zero.  I believe this is being passed off in the variable when used 
for external tests, but I haven't verified that yet.

Thanks,
Matt

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] %WEIGHT% variable as -100

2004-05-06 Thread R. Scott Perry

1.79i6 is the version that I am running presently.  Following are some 
other examples, with the first appearance in my inbox being April 12th 
which happens to be less than a week after you added the weight variable 
to the external tests, and just after you resolved the issue where the 
weights were appearing about 500 points above what they really were (only 
in the %WEIGHT% variable).  I don't believe this has affected how Declude 
handles the E-mail, just the %WEIGHT% variable itself.  It appears that 
the issue with the -100 only happens when the total score is zero.  I 
believe this is being passed off in the variable when used for external 
tests, but I haven't verified that yet.
I've found the problem.
When we made the change to the %WEIGHT% variable to calculate the current 
weight in the middle of testing, it would check to see if the final weight 
was 0 and if so would then calculate it directly.  It looks like we'll need 
to change that.

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Weight and Action Question

2004-04-21 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
Yep, a configuration of WEIGHT10 DELETE and a WEIGHT20 HOLD would indeed
delete a message with a weight of 21.

Something you mentioned earlier prompts me to point out another thing; the
veterans in the list generally regard HOLD messages not as something they
have to check out several times a day to manually sort, but rather as a
convenient way to not bug the intended recipient while we are still able to
retrieve and deliver the mail for that recipient in case of a false
positive.

The net result is that we're more likely to err by holding a message than to
err by deleting it!

For reviewing messages, SpamReview is very popular; I stopped using it a
long time ago, though, due to the high volume I get (I delete very little).
Also, the \imail\spool\spam folder will of course grow in time, so you'll
want a handy utility that you can schedule to delete messages there that are
older than whatever time you choose.  See the Declude website, Tools page
for links to these and other tools.

Andrew 8)

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Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Weight and Action Question


 
 Think of it this way -- if you used the HOLD action for E-mail with a
 weight of 5 or higher, and the DELETE action for E-mail with a weight
of
 10
 or higher, which action would you want taken on an E-mail with a
weight of
 25?
 

In your description I would want the DELETE taken. 

I was thinking of the whole thing is a different light. Specific test
gets action taken first then aggregate tests like WEIGHT20 get taken in
highest to lowest weight order. Then other things...

To paraphrase you JunkMail looks through all the actions of all the
tests that have been tripped starting with the most severe (strict)
DELETE and working down the list.

So if you did it wrong and setup WEIGHT10 DELETE and WEIGHT20 HOLD then
all e-mail with a weight of 10 or higher would be deleted and none would
be held. Right? OK you would have to be mostly asleep to set it up this
way...

Goran

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Weight and Action Question

2004-04-21 Thread R. Scott Perry

To paraphrase you JunkMail looks through all the actions of all the
tests that have been tripped starting with the most severe (strict)
DELETE and working down the list.
That's another way of looking at it.  In this case, if there is a conflict 
with an action that has already been taken, the one that has already been 
taken will have priority.

So if you did it wrong and setup WEIGHT10 DELETE and WEIGHT20 HOLD then
all e-mail with a weight of 10 or higher would be deleted and none would
be held. Right? OK you would have to be mostly asleep to set it up this
way...
Correct.

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Weight and Action Question

2004-04-20 Thread R. Scott Perry

If you are trying out a new test and are not sure what it is going to do
you set the WEIGHT of that test to 0 and then monitor it. One way would
be to use a HOLD action on that test.
My question is if the WEIGHT was not set to 0 but say 10 and the action
is HOLD will the e-mail be held regardless of the total weight?
Not necessarily (since there may be tests with negative weights).  For 
example, by default, if an E-mail does not fail the 
NOLEGITCONTENT/IPNOTINMX tests, it will start with a weight below 
0.  Therefore, if an E-mail failed just the new test, the E-mail would not 
have a weight of 10 or higher.

If that is true then why does it matter what the weight is set to?
Because some people may, for example, use WEIGHT10 HOLD and WEIGHT20 
DELETE.  In this case, an E-mail that would have otherwise had a weight of 
12 (and therefore held) would now have a weight of 22 (and be deleted).  So 
in this case, the test would be live and running and doing its thing.

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Weight and Action Question

2004-04-20 Thread Goran Jovanovic
 
 Well, you might also have a WHITELIST action, or a WEIGHT action for a
 high
 value that does a DELETE.
 

I guess what is important is to find out the precedence of the ACTION
keywords. So if a WEIGHT10 is set with a DELETE action and the test that
you are testing has a WEIGHT of 1 and the total score of the message is
25 then I would hope that regardless of the final weight the HOLD action
on a specific test would take precedence.

 
 Instead, I would recommend using a weight of 1.  A weight of zero,
even if
 the test is triggered and an action taken, will make the test NOT show
up
 in
 the list of tests triggered in your declude log file on the total
 weight=
 line (at LOGLEVEL MID, anyway).

This makes sense and is a good point

Thanx
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Weight and Action Question

2004-04-20 Thread R. Scott Perry

I guess what is important is to find out the precedence of the ACTION
keywords.
In the case of multiple actions, Declude JunkMail will try to use 
both.  But in combinations where they cannot logically be combined (such as 
HOLD and DELETE -- doing one means that you can't do the other), Declude 
JunkMail will use the stricter action (in the HOLD/DELETE case, DELETE is 
stricter).  The actions are listed in the manual in the order of precedence 
(the ones towards the bottom are the stricter ones).

So if a WEIGHT10 is set with a DELETE action and the test that
you are testing has a WEIGHT of 1 and the total score of the message is
25 then I would hope that regardless of the final weight the HOLD action
on a specific test would take precedence.
No.  If the total weight of the E-mail is 25, and you want to delete E-mail 
with a weight of 10 or higher, the E-mail will be deleted.

Think of it this way -- if you used the HOLD action for E-mail with a 
weight of 5 or higher, and the DELETE action for E-mail with a weight of 10 
or higher, which action would you want taken on an E-mail with a weight of 25?

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Weight and Action Question

2004-04-20 Thread Goran Jovanovic
 
 Think of it this way -- if you used the HOLD action for E-mail with a
 weight of 5 or higher, and the DELETE action for E-mail with a weight
of
 10
 or higher, which action would you want taken on an E-mail with a
weight of
 25?
 

In your description I would want the DELETE taken. 

I was thinking of the whole thing is a different light. Specific test
gets action taken first then aggregate tests like WEIGHT20 get taken in
highest to lowest weight order. Then other things...

To paraphrase you JunkMail looks through all the actions of all the
tests that have been tripped starting with the most severe (strict)
DELETE and working down the list.

So if you did it wrong and setup WEIGHT10 DELETE and WEIGHT20 HOLD then
all e-mail with a weight of 10 or higher would be deleted and none would
be held. Right? OK you would have to be mostly asleep to set it up this
way...

Goran

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Weight processing

2003-12-20 Thread Kami Razvan
Hi Bill:

I noticed this a while back and what I did was I elevated the skip weight by
10..  it took care of this..

But I agree with you.. It is hard to know what is happening when tests are
not done in order and one skips the tests only to see a surprise negative
weight being applied..

I wish we could also skip the tests for negative weight.. Because right now
the emails that we want to be delivered by negative weight actually will go
through all tests since none can exit on a negative limit.

Kami 

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Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2003 2:15 PM
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Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Weight processing

Scott, I have setup my filter files with SKIPIFWEIGHT 36, which is my
delete weight.  However, I just noticed that it appears that not all other
JM processing happens before the filter files are called.  You will see from
the log snippet below that most of my filter files were skipped because of a
weight (=36} was met.  However, it appears that the negative weight of -3
from the nIPNOTINMX was applied after the filter file processing, which
reduced the weight to 33, so the message was held instead of deleted.

Would you be willing to change this so that all other Declude JM tests are
run before the filters are called?

Thanks,

Bill
=
Filter HEADERS-FILTER: Skipping E-mail with a current weight of 36 (=36)
Filter SUBJECT-FILTER: Skipping E-mail with a current weight of 36 (=36)
Filter DYNAMIC-FILTER: Skipping E-mail with a current weight of 36 (=36)
Filter HELO-FILTER: Skipping E-mail with a current weight of 36 (=36)
Filter MAILFROM-FILTER: Skipping E-mail with a current weight of 36 (=36)
Filter FORGEDHELO-FILTER: Skipping E-mail with a current weight of 36 (=36)
Filter VERP-FILTER: Skipping E-mail with a current weight of 36 (=36)
Filter REVDNS-FILTER: Skipping E-mail with a current weight of 36 (=36)
Filter BODY-FILTER: Skipping E-mail with a current weight of 36 (=36)
SPEWS:2 MAILPOLICE-BULK:5 nIPNOTINMX:-3 LONGSUBJECT:3 SUBJECTSPACES:5
ALLIGATE-SPAM-L1:1 ALLIGATE-SPAM-L2:2 SNIFFER-PORN:12 SPAMCHECK:6 .  Total
weight = 33.

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Weight processing

2003-12-20 Thread Matthew Bramble
Kami Razvan wrote:

I wish we could also skip the tests for negative weight.. Because right now
the emails that we want to be delivered by negative weight actually will go
through all tests since none can exit on a negative limit.
 

I believe the idea here is to place the negative weight filters before 
the positive weight ones.  Unless you want to totally whitelist 
something based on a filter (as opposed to pseudo-whitelisting it by 
crediting just some points), it makes sense that you wouldn't have a 
minimum weight.  I guess I'm not really very trusting of anything not 
whitelisted on my system.

I start my order with pseudo-whitelists, and then pseudo-blacklists, 
then the highest scoring filters that don't make much use of the body 
down to the lowest scoring filters that do heavy body searches.  When I 
have ANTI files, I list those before the main tests.  The logic is a 
little sloppy in the middle, but it seems to be the right idea.

Naturally, it would also make sense to have absolutely everything else 
run before the custom filters.  I suspect the IPNOTINMX thing is a bug 
instead of something by design.

Matt

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Weight processing

2003-12-20 Thread Kami Razvan
Hi Matt:

I agree but in case of mailing lists .. It seems like one way to help with
the mailing lists that keep changing their providers is to whitelist them by
their address in the Header.

Since Declude looks at the sender email and does not see the FROM address
the best way to handle some mailing lists is by giving negative weight for
the email found in header.

In those cases we have given enough negative weight to them to make sure
they come through regardless of the spam databases they are in.

Regards,
Kami 

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Kami Razvan wrote:

I wish we could also skip the tests for negative weight.. Because right 
now the emails that we want to be delivered by negative weight actually 
will go through all tests since none can exit on a negative limit.
  

I believe the idea here is to place the negative weight filters before the
positive weight ones.  Unless you want to totally whitelist something based
on a filter (as opposed to pseudo-whitelisting it by crediting just some
points), it makes sense that you wouldn't have a minimum weight.  I guess
I'm not really very trusting of anything not whitelisted on my system.

I start my order with pseudo-whitelists, and then pseudo-blacklists, then
the highest scoring filters that don't make much use of the body down to the
lowest scoring filters that do heavy body searches.  When I have ANTI files,
I list those before the main tests.  The logic is a little sloppy in the
middle, but it seems to be the right idea.

Naturally, it would also make sense to have absolutely everything else run
before the custom filters.  I suspect the IPNOTINMX thing is a bug instead
of something by design.

Matt

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Weight processing

2003-12-20 Thread R. Scott Perry

Scott, I have setup my filter files with SKIPIFWEIGHT 36, which is my
delete weight.  However, I just noticed that it appears that not all other
JM processing happens before the filter files are called
That is by design.  We may make an attempt to get the filter tests to run 
last, but we cannot guarantee the order of the tests.

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Weight processing

2003-12-20 Thread Bill Landry
- Original Message - 
From: R. Scott Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Scott, I have setup my filter files with SKIPIFWEIGHT 36, which is my
 delete weight.  However, I just noticed that it appears that not all
other
 JM processing happens before the filter files are called

 That is by design.  We may make an attempt to get the filter tests to run
 last, but we cannot guarantee the order of the tests.

Okay, I have modified my SKIPIFWEIGHT accordingly.

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Weight of in header

2003-11-13 Thread R. Scott Perry

My message headers are no long displaying the weight of messages.  The
weight rules are working.  I have weight 10 holding and weight 20
deleting, that works great.  I'd still like to see the weight score in the
message header if it's less than 10.
What have you changed recently?  What were you seeing before?

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Weight of in header

2003-11-13 Thread Steve Coleman
I downloaded new global and junkmail files a few months back to update my
dated ones.

Prior to that it would say exceeded weight of x in the headers.  I might
have had warn instead of hold or Delete.

Either way, it would be nice to display the weight in the header so our
users can set their level of spam filtering.

Possible?

Thanks,

Steve

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 My message headers are no long displaying the weight of messages.  The
 weight rules are working.  I have weight 10 holding and weight 20
 deleting, that works great.  I'd still like to see the weight score in
the
 message header if it's less than 10.

 What have you changed recently?  What were you seeing before?

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Weight of in header

2003-11-13 Thread R. Scott Perry

I downloaded new global and junkmail files a few months back to update my
dated ones.
Prior to that it would say exceeded weight of x in the headers.  I might
have had warn instead of hold or Delete.
Either way, it would be nice to display the weight in the header so our
users can set their level of spam filtering.
Possible?
If you use WEIGHT10 WARN, for example, you'll see a line in the headers 
similar to what you describe.

Are you looking for a header that shows the total weight, or one of the 
weights that was exceeded?  Are you looking for this in all E-mail, or just 
E-mail that exceeds the given weight?

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Weight of in header

2003-11-13 Thread Steve Coleman
A header with the total weight regardless, from 1 to 9.  Anything 10 or
above we take care of by default.

Would I have to setup WEIGHT1 WARN, WEIGHT 2 WARN, etc?

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 I downloaded new global and junkmail files a few months back to update my
 dated ones.
 
 Prior to that it would say exceeded weight of x in the headers.  I
might
 have had warn instead of hold or Delete.
 
 Either way, it would be nice to display the weight in the header so our
 users can set their level of spam filtering.
 
 Possible?

 If you use WEIGHT10 WARN, for example, you'll see a line in the headers
 similar to what you describe.

 Are you looking for a header that shows the total weight, or one of the
 weights that was exceeded?  Are you looking for this in all E-mail, or
just
 E-mail that exceeds the given weight?

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Weight of in header

2003-11-13 Thread R. Scott Perry

A header with the total weight regardless, from 1 to 9.  Anything 10 or
above we take care of by default.
Do you mean regardless as in every E-mail should have it (XINHEADER would 
do that), or only on E-mails with a weight from 1-9?  If from 1-9, you 
would need to set up a weightrange test (WEIGHT1_9 weightrange x x 1 9) 
that you could then use the WARN action with.

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Weight of in header

2003-11-13 Thread serge
just add
XINHEADER X-Declude-Note: weight: %WEIGHT%
to the global.cfg file

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 A header with the total weight regardless, from 1 to 9.  Anything 10 or
 above we take care of by default.

 Do you mean regardless as in every E-mail should have it (XINHEADER
would
 do that), or only on E-mails with a weight from 1-9?  If from 1-9, you
 would need to set up a weightrange test (WEIGHT1_9 weightrange x x 1 9)
 that you could then use the WARN action with.

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Weight maybe not working right??

2003-10-14 Thread Bill Landry
- Original Message - 
From: Paul Ingram [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 I just recived several spams to my box all with weights greater then
 I allow (weight of 49). Does anyone see anything wrong here?

 GLOBAL.CFG
 WEIGHT1  weightrange x x 5 11
 WEIGHT2  weightrange x x 12 17
 WEIGHT3  weightrange x x 18 36
 WEIGHT4  weightrange x x 37 0

Change WEIGHT4 to a weight test instead of a weightrange:

WEIGHT4  weight x x 37 0

This will apply whatever action you define (in your case: DELETE) to any
message with a weight of 27 or higher.  That should take care of it.

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] WEIGHT

2003-09-04 Thread Danny Klopfer
It was commented out of the global.cfg.  Another question:

If I have:

CATCHALLMAILS   SUBJECT [Weight=%WEIGHT%]
WEIGHT10SUBJECT (SUSPECTED SPAM)

In the something.junkmail file will both be appended or will CATCHALLMAILS
only show up?




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CATCHALLMAILS   SUBJECT [Weight=%WEIGHT%]

in my something.junkmail file but the weight did not show up in the subject
of a message that I just received.

Are you sure that the something.junkmail file was the one used to process
the E-mail (aliases can cause Declude to use a different file than you
expect)?

Do I need to add something to the global.cfg?

No, assuming that the CATCHALLMAILS catchallmails x x 0 0 line is in
there (it is in the default config file).

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] WEIGHT

2003-09-04 Thread R. Scott Perry

If I have:

CATCHALLMAILS   SUBJECT [Weight=%WEIGHT%]
WEIGHT10SUBJECT (SUSPECTED SPAM)
In the something.junkmail file will both be appended or will CATCHALLMAILS
only show up?
Only one will be appended (I believe it is the last one listed in the 
global.cfg file that will be used).

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] WEIGHT

2003-09-03 Thread R. Scott Perry

In my something.junkmail file I have:

WEIGHT10SUBJECT (SUSPECTED SPAM)

I know I can add %WEIGHT% to the end if I want the weight to show up in the
subject but how can I have theweight show up in the subject of ALL emails I
receive even if they do not receive a weight?
You could use:

CATCHALLMAILS   SUBJECT [Weight=%WEIGHT%]

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] WEIGHT

2003-09-03 Thread Danny Klopfer
I placed:

CATCHALLMAILS   SUBJECT [Weight=%WEIGHT%]

in my something.junkmail file but the weight did not show up in the subject
of a message that I just received.

Do I need to add something to the global.cfg?  I'm trying to do this on my
own email and nothing else.



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In my something.junkmail file I have:

WEIGHT10SUBJECT (SUSPECTED SPAM)

I know I can add %WEIGHT% to the end if I want the weight to show up in the
subject but how can I have theweight show up in the subject of ALL emails I
receive even if they do not receive a weight?

You could use:

CATCHALLMAILS   SUBJECT [Weight=%WEIGHT%]


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] WEIGHT

2003-09-03 Thread R. Scott Perry

CATCHALLMAILS   SUBJECT [Weight=%WEIGHT%]

in my something.junkmail file but the weight did not show up in the subject
of a message that I just received.
Are you sure that the something.junkmail file was the one used to process 
the E-mail (aliases can cause Declude to use a different file than you expect)?

Do I need to add something to the global.cfg?
No, assuming that the CATCHALLMAILS catchallmails x x 0 0 line is in 
there (it is in the default config file).

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] WEIGHT

2003-09-03 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
 No, assuming that the CATCHALLMAILS catchallmails x x 0 0 line is in
 there (it is in the default config file).

By default, it is commented out, no?

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] WEIGHT

2003-09-03 Thread R. Scott Perry

 No, assuming that the CATCHALLMAILS catchallmails x x 0 0 line is in
 there (it is in the default config file).
By default, it is commented out, no?
It was originally, no longer is commented out with the default settings.

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Weight values not working with ROUTETO

2003-06-24 Thread Jools Chesters
Thanks Scott, I'll try the weightrange option!

Cheers

Jools

On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 09:01:33 -0400, you wrote:


This is a weird one, I've setup 2 weights in global.cfg as:

WEIGHT15weight  x   x   15  0
WEIGHT30weight  x   x   30  0

and use in global.cfg and $default$.junkmail:

WEIGHT30ROUTETO [EMAIL PROTECTED]
WEIGHT15ROUTETO [EMAIL PROTECTED]

(also tried the above the other way round)

but all mail over the 15 weight even if it is in the hundreds, only
gets put in the weight15 mailbox.

The catch here is that when an E-mail has a weight of 30 or higher, you are 
telling Declude JunkMail two things.  Since it has failed both the WEIGHT15 
and WEIGHT30 tests, you are telling it to both re-route the E-mail to 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED]  You can't 
re-route an E-mail to two different addresses, so Declude JunkMail picks 
which one to send it to.

There are two ways you could get around this.  The best would be to change 
the WEIGHT15 line to:

 WEIGHT15weightrange x   x   15  29

That will make sure that an E-mail never fails both the WEIGHT15 and 
WEIGHT30 tests.

The other way would be to change the order that the tests are defined in 
the global.cfg file, which *should* change the address that the E-mail is 
re-routed to (but I can't guarantee that).

-Scott
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Weight values not working with ROUTETO

2003-06-24 Thread R. Scott Perry

This is a weird one, I've setup 2 weights in global.cfg as:

WEIGHT15weight  x   x   15  0
WEIGHT30weight  x   x   30  0
and use in global.cfg and $default$.junkmail:

WEIGHT30ROUTETO [EMAIL PROTECTED]
WEIGHT15ROUTETO [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(also tried the above the other way round)

but all mail over the 15 weight even if it is in the hundreds, only
gets put in the weight15 mailbox.
The catch here is that when an E-mail has a weight of 30 or higher, you are 
telling Declude JunkMail two things.  Since it has failed both the WEIGHT15 
and WEIGHT30 tests, you are telling it to both re-route the E-mail to 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED]  You can't 
re-route an E-mail to two different addresses, so Declude JunkMail picks 
which one to send it to.

There are two ways you could get around this.  The best would be to change 
the WEIGHT15 line to:

WEIGHT15weightrange x   x   15  29

That will make sure that an E-mail never fails both the WEIGHT15 and 
WEIGHT30 tests.

The other way would be to change the order that the tests are defined in 
the global.cfg file, which *should* change the address that the E-mail is 
re-routed to (but I can't guarantee that).

   -Scott
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] weight of 63 passed ??

2002-07-15 Thread R. Scott Perry


Strangeness. I'm curious how this message manage to get through and be
delivered.

My first question:  Do you have a WHITELIST entry that could have let it 
through?

  I have weight20 set to hold and weight30 to delete. This
message made weight63. The address it was delievered to is granted
located on a unix box ...

And I should mention here that if the E-mail is being sent to another 
server (unix box), IMail considers it outgoing mail, so the settings in the 
\IMail\Declude\global.cfg file.  To get around this, you can use per-domain 
settings for that domain.
  -Scott

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Weight question...

2002-05-14 Thread R. Scott Perry


I'm trying to setup the following tests for weight.
When I add the following (minus the # comment sign)

#SPAMHEADERSspamheaders x   x   3   0
#NOABUSE noabuse x   x   3   0
#NOPOSTMASTERnopostmasterx   x   3   0

I get the following errors in the log:

05/14/2002 12:06:13  Warning, misconfiguration in noabuse; expecting
action
05/14/2002 12:06:13  Warning, misconfiguration in nopostmaster;
expecting action

The problem is that you don't need to add those lines.  The weighting is 
built into the test definitions; you don't need to add separate lines for them.

When Declude sees the line starting with NOABUSE, it first checks to see 
if there has already been a test called NOABUSE defined.  If there has, it 
assumes that you are determining what action to take (NOABUSE HOLD, for 
example).  If the test hasn't been defined, it expects that the line 
beginning with NOABUSE is a test definition -- but it isn't a valid one 
(there is no test type called noabuse).

If you want to set the weight of the noabuse test to 3, you would just 
change the existing line:

 NOABUSE rhsbl   abuse.rfc-ignorant.org  127.0.0.4 
  4   0

to:

 NOABUSE rhsbl   abuse.rfc-ignorant.org  127.0.0.4 
  3   0

I also have the following actions for these single tests:

NOABUSE rhsbl   abuse.rfc-ignorant.org  127.0.0.4   4 
  0
NOPOSTMASTERrhsbl   postmaster.rfc-ignorant.org 127.0.0.3   4 
  0

Note that these are the test definitions (where you would change the 
weight, if you want).

NOABUSE WARN
NOPOSTMASTERWARN

And these are where you determine the action to take for the outgoing 
E-mail that fails those tests.

So if you get rid of the lines that you added, and then change the test 
definition line as shown above, you should be all set.
-Scott

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] %WEIGHT% Variable

2002-02-01 Thread R. Scott Perry


Should the %WEIGHT% Variable work with the SUBJECT action in 1.35a or 1.36.
I know it works other places but when I tried it in the sbject action it
didn't work.

It should work with 1.36, but was just added and has not been thoroughly 
tested yet.

What happens when you try using it?
 -Scott

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Weight Fix?

2001-12-27 Thread R. Scott Perry


I remember several announcements in the past two weeks (since the official
1.30 beta started), that there was going to be a fix in the respective next
day or two that would at least re-fix the weight test?

It's actually only been about a week -- the holidays seem to make it seem 
longer.  The holidays did delay the new release, which should be out later 
today or tomorrow.
   -Scott

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